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Who will be this year's Keenen Allen? (1 Viewer)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
could be jordan mathews who is just an injury away from being on the field every play
ponchsox
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UMDterps26
Footballguy
Second Hurns
Keenan Allen is such a pure route-runner, which is a strong asset -- I think the best bet to put up similar numbers Mike Evans, but he's been on radars.
When I look for potential breakout WR's, I like to look at return men, specifically PR. Guys like Edelman and G.Tate started primarily as punt returners before getting a piece of the offense. Here you can find PPR future WR2-3 guys
The guy that is closest in that role right now is Bruce Ellington
Keenan Allen is such a pure route-runner, which is a strong asset -- I think the best bet to put up similar numbers Mike Evans, but he's been on radars.
When I look for potential breakout WR's, I like to look at return men, specifically PR. Guys like Edelman and G.Tate started primarily as punt returners before getting a piece of the offense. Here you can find PPR future WR2-3 guys
The guy that is closest in that role right now is Bruce Ellington
Super King
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bulger2holt
Footballguy
Super King
Footballguy
he put up 7/99 with those stiffs.
Courtweeks87
Footballguy
Look at what josh Gordon did with stiffs throwing him the ball last year
Love the quick call.
Also love the hunter call. And m. Lee.
MattFancy
Footballguy
My pick as well. Just like Allen last year, he seemed to be the most "NFL ready" WR coming out of this year's draft. All it takes is a Maclin injury or Cooper being ineffective and Matthews becomes a starter for one of the top offenses in the league. He's already been moved up to their WR3 after Week 1.
Restricted
Footballguy
Surprised there isn't a mention of John Brown for Arizona yet.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I don't think he qualifies. At best he'll be a WR3 in PPR leagues, as he's still behind Floyd and Fitzgerald.
Allen last year became an every week must start and the top target in his team.
I think Justin Hunter is the best bet. He also happens to play for Whisenhunt, just like Allen did.
Braktastic
Footballguy
I wasn't treating as undrafted, I was more talking about players who will greatly outperform their draft stock.
The chances of a totally undrafted player do what Allen did again is remote IMO
Braktastic
Footballguy
Al O'Pecia
Footballguy
Who was throwing Josh Gordon the ball last season when he led the league in receiving?
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Might be Malcolm Floyd, ironically.
Milkman
Footballguy
Al O'Pecia
Footballguy
Yeah, because that's exactly what I wrote. For you and perhaps the only other person on the planet not quick enough to get the point*, the point is that a receiver doesn't necessarily need an elite or even respectable QB throwing him the ball for that receiver to put up respectable numbers. It certainly helps, but it's not an absolute requisite. Using the example that Josh Gordon put up league leading receiving numbers with arguably the worst QB situation in the league last year does not equal saying that Brian Quick is the next Josh Gordon.
(* pun intended)
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Yep
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Until something changes in the Josh Gordon situation--I'll go Andrew Hawkins. Ben Tate and Jordan Cameron are both dinged up--and I can see Cleveland falling behind in a lot of their games. I could see this kid being a target monster for a while.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
At least he fits the category. A guy like Cooks was well known and heavily drafted. I don't recall hearing about Allen last year until around week 5.
dagwood
Footballguy
This gets my vote. And he could be Keenan Allen in the second half of the year without an injury.
Pleas explain your reasoning for why tian quick can't be like josh Gordon?
No one thought that Gordon would be as good as he is now when he was taken in the 2nd round of the supp draft by Cleveland in 2013. Everyone knew he was talented, but no one knew he would dominate in his second year.
Quick was a raw but talented player coming into the league and he has terrific measurables. Those of a wr1. He is also a physical specimen.
He had a mini breakout in week 1 as the focal point of the rams passing game and his coaches have been raving about him.
So tell me why you know for certain that quick can't become an elite wr?
I'm not saying he WILL. I have no idea. But I'm saying I see no reason why he can't develop into that this year if the stars align properly for him.
MCguidance
Footballguy
I drafted Quick. Picked up Hurns. So yeah, it's those two.
Would probably need an injury for this to happen. He was only on the field for 21 snaps out of 75 last week.
Sir Psycho
Footballguy
Allen didn't see the field for the first 3 or 4 games...
Right - the next Keenan Allen is way under the radar right now. A year ago you couldn;t have predicted Allen in week 1
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
Justin Hunter
Pros: Everyone pretty much agrees he's a stud in waiting
Cons: I don't see him on the wire in my leagues; he was drafted.
Brian Quick
Pros: 6'4", 25 yrs. old, 4.55 40, poor offense might be throwing a lot to catch up/keep up, no great competition for targets outside of maybe Austin and Cook (for now)
Cons: Plays in a division with tough defenses, below average QB, defense is supposedly strong and might mitigate need to come back, Stedman Bailey coming back after Week 4 bye to make WR corps more crowded.
Allen Hurns
Pros: 4.55 40, 31" vertical, could be thrown to a lot due to need to keep up/catch up, competition for targets beat up atm, knows system, strong preseason and opening to game 1
Cons: Poor QB, supposed to be a running team, two other good WRs vying for few targets (Lee, Shorts), undrafted WRs usually don't have big seasons even after a good game 1, disappeared in 2nd half, only 6'1" so not a huge RZ target
Jordan Matthews
Pros: Talent, guys in front of him are a little creaky health wise, great system, good QB, 4.44 40, draws comparisons to Colston, played on 57/87 snaps (66%) -- Maclin was in on 80, Cooper 78, and after Matthews next highest was just 10 for Jeff Maehl
Cons: Only 3rd on depth chart (but just moved up), few targets (4) in game 1, plays in the slot
John Brown
Pros: Team will throw a lot, coach will use like TY Hilton, already caught a RZ TD, in on 43-of-74 (58 percent) snaps
Cons: #3 WR on team, only 5'11", QB's arm is not what it used to be
Pros: Everyone pretty much agrees he's a stud in waiting
Cons: I don't see him on the wire in my leagues; he was drafted.
Brian Quick
Pros: 6'4", 25 yrs. old, 4.55 40, poor offense might be throwing a lot to catch up/keep up, no great competition for targets outside of maybe Austin and Cook (for now)
Cons: Plays in a division with tough defenses, below average QB, defense is supposedly strong and might mitigate need to come back, Stedman Bailey coming back after Week 4 bye to make WR corps more crowded.
Allen Hurns
Pros: 4.55 40, 31" vertical, could be thrown to a lot due to need to keep up/catch up, competition for targets beat up atm, knows system, strong preseason and opening to game 1
Cons: Poor QB, supposed to be a running team, two other good WRs vying for few targets (Lee, Shorts), undrafted WRs usually don't have big seasons even after a good game 1, disappeared in 2nd half, only 6'1" so not a huge RZ target
Jordan Matthews
Pros: Talent, guys in front of him are a little creaky health wise, great system, good QB, 4.44 40, draws comparisons to Colston, played on 57/87 snaps (66%) -- Maclin was in on 80, Cooper 78, and after Matthews next highest was just 10 for Jeff Maehl
Cons: Only 3rd on depth chart (but just moved up), few targets (4) in game 1, plays in the slot
John Brown
Pros: Team will throw a lot, coach will use like TY Hilton, already caught a RZ TD, in on 43-of-74 (58 percent) snaps
Cons: #3 WR on team, only 5'11", QB's arm is not what it used to be
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purestrength
Footballguy
Holding out hope for Cody Latimer.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
How can you not include Benjamin in this conversation, but include guys that were mostly drafted ahead of him in rookie drafts and even in regular drafts like Cooks, Mathews, and Hunter
Frostillicus
Footballguy
FF EGGHEAD
Footballguy
I would as I drafted him and traded for him prior to week 1, especially when I saw Dallas on schedule for week 2!
massraider
Footballguy
Allen Robinson?
chinawildman
Footballguy
Odell Beckham Jr.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Brian Quick. Obviously not a rookie but he's going to bust out this season.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Looked good. Had as many targets as Britt, Givens and Austin combined. Worked the middle well. Looked good.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I'd dump Riley for Quick in a heartbeat.
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