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So you are ok drafting a QB with the 26th pick and then just giving up on him after three games (if all three are bad)??
Umm, no, no he didn't.daveR said:
If that is the case, so be it.
I was making fun of the run of QB selections by Browns brass. Manziel done for the day. Injured running a QB sweep.
i expect a pass rusher, wr, and ol in the top 50.
They'd have to trade up on order for the value to be there. So, I doubt it... Highly doubt it. Winston and Mariota are likely top 5 picks. The drop after them is huge. Maybe someone emerges between now and then but I'm not sure who that could be.
Farmer loves Mariota, so it's not impossible but I doubt it.
I am because many were pimping taking a QB with the 4th pick and none were worthy of the 4th pick, I wanted Sammy but am still fine with the trade and getting the extra 1st and 4th round picks next year.
I think the Browns/Hoyer split will be mutual.
true. i think Hoyer told them to go #### themselves this week.
unless it's Mariota, no qbs inside the top 200.
not interested in winston, so, who else?
So because you're not interested he's suddenly not a top 200 player? That's absurd.
I'm sure there will be several teams that do not have him on their board.
There is no way you can be sure of this.
decision makers aren't thinking about the draft right now. Their support staffs are. You'll get your support for those claims after a couple-few months of research and analysis from those decision makers.
Justin Gilbert: 'I will be great'
Updated: December 26, 2014, 4:15 PM ET
By Pat McManamon | ESPN.comBEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns cornerback Justin Gilbert said Friday he brought much of his teammates' sharp criticism on himself, but also vowed: "I will be great."
[+] EnlargeAP Photo/David RichardBrowns rookie cornerback Justin Gilbert said Friday he brought much of his teammates' sharp criticism on himself.
"I'm not mad at anyone about it," Gilbert said Friday. "I brought it upon myself. I can take that and roll with it. I messed up. But I can promise my teammates I'm going to make it right."
Gilbert would not get into specifics about what happened behind the scenes to prompt the criticism, saying what happened should stay "in the family." A source close to the team, though, said Gilbert had serious attitude issues and was frequently late to meetings.
The Browns had high hopes for Gilbert when they took him eighth overall in May's draft. But as the season progressed, he fell behind undrafted rookie K'Waun Williams, and in the most recent game in Carolina he did not play in the first quarter and watched as fourth-round Pierre Desir came off the inactive list to start and play the entire game.
He admitted he is shy and reserved, and said that might have sparked some of the feeling that his attitude is lacking. He appeared at times uncomfortable as he spoke to a group of media.
GIlbert at first said he had "no idea' where the criticism came from, but later said he "most definitely" knew.
"It has been corrected," he said. "It's not really a problem, not going to be an issue anymore."
Safety Donte Whitner said earlier in the week that Gilbert had to "stop acting like a kid," and linebacker Karlos Dansby said any growth from Gilbert had to come from him but that he was there to help.
Gilbert declined to comment on Whitner's remark.
Of general criticism, Gilbert said: "I'm not a person to judge my teammates and put it out in the media like that. If I have a problem with somebody I would address them face to face. That's just all I can say about that."
Gilbert said he expected criticism from Whitner because "he's the guy who's always just talking."
"I just sit back and listen to people," Gilbert said. "I'm not going to put out there what he was really saying."
As for reaching out to Dansby, Gilbert said: "It's something I might look into, yeah. I think I can handle that and talk to him about some things and we can see where things end going from there."
Does Gilbert know what it takes to be a professional?
"That's a question I really can't answer right now," Gilbert said.
Gilbert vowed he would work harder in the offseason and next season, and said the criticism "sparked a flame" inside him.
But he also said that some of the remarks "crossed the line a little bit."
"We're all here to do the same thing and that's win and provide for our family," Gilbert said. "Some of the things were right and some of the things could have been kept to themselves."
yeah, the focus is on the ones but they did very well afterwards. K'Waun Williams too.
Thank goodness we don't have the 22! Now we can actually draft some decent players and skip the traditional QB @ 22 pick.
He's an athletic freak, but wasn't ever taught how to play corner back. I think he's probably instinctively resisting putting in the work to be great since he never has needed to before. That is why I didn't want him, but I'd be lying if I said I expected it to be this bad.
He has the raw skills, speed, athleticism, and length, to turn into an exceptional NFL CB. He flashed some this year but the book is he's consistently late for practice and workouts and it seems he's resistant to criticism and the position takes some adjusting to the NFL game.
