FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (11 Viewers)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

that's a drop

 

[modogg]

wish i knew the refs were on the over

 

[tjnc09]

Lol that didn't help

 

[mquinnjr]

that's a drop

Under is done.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I think I'll lay off NHL totals for awhile, started 8-3 but it hasn't been too pretty the past four days.

 

[BRONG]

Why did Portland go to 10???

 

[Pumpnick]

and thats that

 

[swirvenirvin]

Love some of these propsSUPER BOWL XLVII SPECIALS - If Ray Lewis is interviewed on TV after the game on the field or in the locker room how many times will he mention "God/Lord" Live pictures only, any taped pictures or past video does not count towards wager. Book manager's decision is final.6:45p Over 3 (-120)o(-120)u

 

[Tiger Fan]

did anyone middle pregame?

 

[modogg]

grabbed AFC +14.5 and AFC +17.5 in live betting to make up for the unders played during live betting

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

this is going to be a bloodbath.

 

[Tiger Fan]

have we ever all been so on the wrong side of a game?

 

[Raider Nation]

have we ever all been so on the wrong side of a game?

Dodds nailed it.

 

[mquinnjr]

this is going to be a bloodbath.

They're pushing 100 or close to it...and are playing. I think the going for almost all 4th downs and converting them for TD's is the killer.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Last two Pro Bowls combined for 96 and 100 points. Under/Over is a measly 82 points. Easy over with no one actually rushing the passers.

If you are bored, skim the last 10 or so pages where we've been discussing this.Most in here are on the under because the players know if they don't play the game hard, this game will be a memory.Check out the reports from the Pro Bowl this week. Peyton has been yelling at everyone there to "respect the game".

 

[General Malaise]

I have Over 79.5

 

[mquinnjr]

Luck, seriously???????Never betting this ####-fest ever again.

 

[gmbacm]

Luck, seriously???????Never betting this ####-fest ever again.

yeah me too. At least for a year.

 

[General Malaise]

NBAboston +4(betonline)lakers +3.5 -105(RB)

Played and parlayed these. Nicely done.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I hope they can somehow retroactively cancel this game so this abortion of a game doesn't count and never hurts anyone ever again.

 

[Raider Nation]

Last two Pro Bowls combined for 96 and 100 points. Under/Over is a measly 82 points. Easy over with no one actually rushing the passers.

If you are bored, skim the last 10 or so pages where we've been discussing this.Most in here are on the under because the players know if they don't play the game hard, this game will be a memory.Check out the reports from the Pro Bowl this week. Peyton has been yelling at everyone there to "respect the game".

Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlingtonPeyton Manning is currently giving a rousing speech to Pro Bowl selections about giving a full effort to keep Goodell from canceling game.

It seems like that would inspire the defense more than the offense, no? The scoring wasn't a problem last year

Yes, I'm certain he was addressing the entire team.

So wait and play the under before kick?

I'm not advising anything one way or the other.

 

[mquinnjr]

Can't wait to see another 4th down TD here. Like nails on a chalkboard.ETA: Nevermind. 3rd down.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

So you were neutral on an exhibition game?

 

[General Malaise]

Why did Portland go to 10???

No Jarred Jeffries? CP3 not in the starting lineup for Clips. I'm on them -8 and Under 192.5. I just don't see how Portland stays with them tonight. This lack of a bench is going to hinder them.

 

[tjnc09]

Last two Pro Bowls combined for 96 and 100 points. Under/Over is a measly 82 points. Easy over with no one actually rushing the passers.

If you are bored, skim the last 10 or so pages where we've been discussing this.Most in here are on the under because the players know if they don't play the game hard, this game will be a memory.Check out the reports from the Pro Bowl this week. Peyton has been yelling at everyone there to "respect the game".

What is the point of bumping that?

 

[modogg]

grabbed AFC +14.5 and AFC +17.5 in live betting to make up for the unders played during live betting

wow, this is going to end ugly . worst part is i called it right in the beginning that Wilson would win it for the NFC, but i thought they would work on trying to keep it close

 

[Raider Nation]

KAPOLEI, Hawaii -- Ripping off jokes like he was doing the opening monologue on Saturday Night Live, Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning was feeling it Tuesday evening. He was back where he belongs, in front of his peers, here at the Pro Bowl, right in his element.

Yet as Manning stood in front of a ballroom full of the NFL's best players (30 of whom, as he pointed out, are at the game for the first time), Manning wasn't just being funny during this welcome meeting. He also had a very sharp message.

"The past two years, the play in this game has been unacceptable," Manning said. "If it was a walkthrough, your coach would say it was a bad walkthrough. And that's why (the league) could try to cancel this game."

When practices begin Wednesday, there is expected to be a very different tone, especially emanating from the AFC's team, in the wake of much public discourse about the future of the NFL's All-Star game.

Commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that the current quality of the game doesn't meet the league's standard, and a rewarding week enjoyed by the NFL's best players is in jeopardy. The players now recognize there's one way to fix this.

"It's simple," Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey told NFL.com. "Just play hard. Like you do on a Sunday. If you do that, the rest will take care of itself."

Whether that's enough to truly save this game (and, perhaps as importantly, this event) remains to be seen. But if ever there was a year in which the right formula to save the Pro Bowl was in place, this might very well be it.

Manning and Bailey are two of just 10 players in NFL history to make 12 or more Pro Bowls. Manning has the most Pro Bowl berths among quarterbacks, and Bailey has the most among defensive backs. And it just so happens that their current coach, John Fox, has been assigned to coach the AFC this week.

Fox and Manning met over beers Sunday evening, with NFC quarterback Eli Manning also present, to discuss their intent to take things up a notch (or three) during practices. And since both men are very capable of balancing a good time with some hard work, they might very well be the right people to pull this off.

Bailey, for one, was glad Manning also addressed it with both the AFC and the NFC present in the ballroom Tuesday, setting an expectation for the week.

"(Manning's talk) meant a lot because I think we do get over here and get relaxed," Bailey said. "The sense of urgency leading up to the game isn't there. It takes something like that to get you going, to understand the importance of it. I get it. We should play hard."

While some fans might continue to dismiss this rallying cry as a pointless effort to keep alive a game that doesn't satisfy the masses, this is much more about an internal desire among players to sustain a tradition that's important to some veterans, like Manning.

As Manning noted during his speech, his weeks at the Pro Bowl have afforded him the chance to play with seven players already in the Hall of Fame and six coaches who have won Super Bowls, all of which has benefitted him in his career.

"Peyton said it best," Bailey said. "The players who have played in this game are in the Hall of Fame. If they get rid of this game, guys are going to miss out. You won't even know who you played against because you never get a chance to meet them. It's good for that reason and many others."

Manning's talk on Tuesday was directed very specifically toward the players in the room -- not toward the public masses. It was intended to be heard by rookies like quarterbacks Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson and young defensive players like J.J. Watt. Those are the players who will be around for the next decade. Those are the guys that would be carrying this tradition forward.

Maybe it's a good thing many of these faces are new to this game, because the quality of play last year truly was terrible, as many players agreed.

Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, for one, was disgusted by the lack of intensity in that game. While his knee is giving him enough issues to provide a legitimate reason for him to sit this year out, last year's experience certainly didn't help. It's also a reason why Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson said he plans to play hard this year -- so hard that he'd like to be the game's MVP.

So without question, the tone has been set. Will it matter? Will it be enough to convince Goodell to keep the game in Hawaii for years to come? We'll see. But if this indeed is the last Pro Bowl, these players plan on making it a good one.

"It's a really nice atmosphere, and it's great for relaxing," Bailey said. "But you've got to understand why you're here, and I think guys have gotten away from that, for whatever reason.

"We've got to get back to the way it should be."

Betting market agrees, opened afc +3, afc is now favored. Moving off 3 in this game not a big deal but still a 4 pt move already.

Hey lump... if there's two things I'm an expert on, it's porn and Pro Bowls.If Manning's pep talk had anything to do with the line move, it's faulty logic. There's not much handicapping involved in Pro Bowls, except to lean towards the squad with the better QBs.

AFC: Manning, Luck, Schaub

NFC: Brees, Manning, Wilson

NFC at a virtual Pick 'em with a pretty good edge at QB looks appealing. There not a chance in hell Peyton plays very long. I know it's highly unlikely, but IF he injures his neck again in the friggin Pro Bowl, there will be hell to pay.

The NFC's receivers are also way, way better than the AFC's.

Doc won't BUMP this one though. Nor the Senior Bowl sweep yesterday.It's not as much fun when I'm right.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Sharks are looking great but people forget they do this every single year. Only way they advance out of the Western Conference is if they play Vancouver in the conference finals, choke v choke.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Last two Pro Bowls combined for 96 and 100 points. Under/Over is a measly 82 points. Easy over with no one actually rushing the passers.

If you are bored, skim the last 10 or so pages where we've been discussing this.Most in here are on the under because the players know if they don't play the game hard, this game will be a memory.Check out the reports from the Pro Bowl this week. Peyton has been yelling at everyone there to "respect the game".

What is the point of bumping that?

Dodds prediction. What's it to you?

 

[Pumpnick]

so how is this game less of a joke this year?

 

[modogg]

F JON FOX, again. Man do i really hate this mother F'er

 

[mquinnjr]

I'm turning this off. Unwatchable. Never betting on this again. Feel free to bump if I discuss a play for the Pro Bowl in 2014 and embarrass the heck out of me, I would deserve it and encourage it.

 

[Raider Nation]

Last two Pro Bowls combined for 96 and 100 points. Under/Over is a measly 82 points. Easy over with no one actually rushing the passers.

If you are bored, skim the last 10 or so pages where we've been discussing this.Most in here are on the under because the players know if they don't play the game hard, this game will be a memory.Check out the reports from the Pro Bowl this week. Peyton has been yelling at everyone there to "respect the game".

What is the point of bumping that?

Dodds prediction. What's it to you?

If only there had been a way to include ONLY his quote.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

can't hold anything against RN here. the defensive players were clearly playing hard early on, but things just spiraled out of control.I wanted to bet the Over early but let myself get talked out of it based on all the reports from this thread. Then when the total kept getting lowered from 86 or so early in the week to 79 or so today, I felt more and more confident in the play so kept bettin more.Stupid plays on my part. Bet way too much on an exhibition game, and I hate betting totals to begin with so never should have got this sucked in.

 

[Raider Nation]

can't hold anything against RN here. the defensive players were clearly playing hard early on, but things just spiraled out of control.

I appreciate the sentiment, but why WOULD anyone hold that against me. Please point out where I recommended a play on the under. I clearly stated that the players would play harder this year to save the game, but that's it.

 

[Treynwreck3]

I think I'll lay off NHL totals for awhile, started 8-3 but it hasn't been too pretty the past four days.

I'm with you cat.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

KAPOLEI, Hawaii -- Ripping off jokes like he was doing the opening monologue on Saturday Night Live, Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning was feeling it Tuesday evening. He was back where he belongs, in front of his peers, here at the Pro Bowl, right in his element.

Yet as Manning stood in front of a ballroom full of the NFL's best players (30 of whom, as he pointed out, are at the game for the first time), Manning wasn't just being funny during this welcome meeting. He also had a very sharp message.

"The past two years, the play in this game has been unacceptable," Manning said. "If it was a walkthrough, your coach would say it was a bad walkthrough. And that's why (the league) could try to cancel this game."

When practices begin Wednesday, there is expected to be a very different tone, especially emanating from the AFC's team, in the wake of much public discourse about the future of the NFL's All-Star game.

Commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that the current quality of the game doesn't meet the league's standard, and a rewarding week enjoyed by the NFL's best players is in jeopardy. The players now recognize there's one way to fix this.

"It's simple," Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey told NFL.com. "Just play hard. Like you do on a Sunday. If you do that, the rest will take care of itself."

Whether that's enough to truly save this game (and, perhaps as importantly, this event) remains to be seen. But if ever there was a year in which the right formula to save the Pro Bowl was in place, this might very well be it.

Manning and Bailey are two of just 10 players in NFL history to make 12 or more Pro Bowls. Manning has the most Pro Bowl berths among quarterbacks, and Bailey has the most among defensive backs. And it just so happens that their current coach, John Fox, has been assigned to coach the AFC this week.

Fox and Manning met over beers Sunday evening, with NFC quarterback Eli Manning also present, to discuss their intent to take things up a notch (or three) during practices. And since both men are very capable of balancing a good time with some hard work, they might very well be the right people to pull this off.

Bailey, for one, was glad Manning also addressed it with both the AFC and the NFC present in the ballroom Tuesday, setting an expectation for the week.

"(Manning's talk) meant a lot because I think we do get over here and get relaxed," Bailey said. "The sense of urgency leading up to the game isn't there. It takes something like that to get you going, to understand the importance of it. I get it. We should play hard."

While some fans might continue to dismiss this rallying cry as a pointless effort to keep alive a game that doesn't satisfy the masses, this is much more about an internal desire among players to sustain a tradition that's important to some veterans, like Manning.

As Manning noted during his speech, his weeks at the Pro Bowl have afforded him the chance to play with seven players already in the Hall of Fame and six coaches who have won Super Bowls, all of which has benefitted him in his career.

"Peyton said it best," Bailey said. "The players who have played in this game are in the Hall of Fame. If they get rid of this game, guys are going to miss out. You won't even know who you played against because you never get a chance to meet them. It's good for that reason and many others."

Manning's talk on Tuesday was directed very specifically toward the players in the room -- not toward the public masses. It was intended to be heard by rookies like quarterbacks Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson and young defensive players like J.J. Watt. Those are the players who will be around for the next decade. Those are the guys that would be carrying this tradition forward.

Maybe it's a good thing many of these faces are new to this game, because the quality of play last year truly was terrible, as many players agreed.

Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, for one, was disgusted by the lack of intensity in that game. While his knee is giving him enough issues to provide a legitimate reason for him to sit this year out, last year's experience certainly didn't help. It's also a reason why Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson said he plans to play hard this year -- so hard that he'd like to be the game's MVP.

So without question, the tone has been set. Will it matter? Will it be enough to convince Goodell to keep the game in Hawaii for years to come? We'll see. But if this indeed is the last Pro Bowl, these players plan on making it a good one.

"It's a really nice atmosphere, and it's great for relaxing," Bailey said. "But you've got to understand why you're here, and I think guys have gotten away from that, for whatever reason.

"We've got to get back to the way it should be."

Betting market agrees, opened afc +3, afc is now favored. Moving off 3 in this game not a big deal but still a 4 pt move already.

Hey lump... if there's two things I'm an expert on, it's porn and Pro Bowls.If Manning's pep talk had anything to do with the line move, it's faulty logic. There's not much handicapping involved in Pro Bowls, except to lean towards the squad with the better QBs.

AFC: Manning, Luck, Schaub

NFC: Brees, Manning, Wilson

NFC at a virtual Pick 'em with a pretty good edge at QB looks appealing. There not a chance in hell Peyton plays very long. I know it's highly unlikely, but IF he injures his neck again in the friggin Pro Bowl, there will be hell to pay.

The NFC's receivers are also way, way better than the AFC's.

Doc won't BUMP this one though. Nor the Senior Bowl sweep yesterday.It's not as much fun when I'm right.

I didn't bump that post because you were wrong. I bumped it because Dodds was right and then you tried to explain to him what the general FFAWT consensus was. Jesus Christ, are you guys hard of reading?

 

[John Bender]

What's with all the #####ing in here tonight? This is supposed to be a fun and friendly thread.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

can't hold anything against RN here. the defensive players were clearly playing hard early on, but things just spiraled out of control.

I appreciate the sentiment, but why WOULD anyone hold that against me. Please point out where I recommended a play on the under. I clearly stated that the players would play harder this year to save the game, but that's it.

well, every news report you posted in here certainly seemed to lean that way. even when Dodds came in to post his thoughts the game would go over easily, you suggested he slow his roll and read the thread.I think you called it right. Just some nutty things going on here.

 

[Raider Nation]

What's with all the #####ing in here tonight? This is supposed to be a fun and friendly thread.

Sorry. Felt like I was being attacked.

 

[Tiger Fan]

What's with all the #####ing in here tonight? This is supposed to be a fun and friendly thread.

pro bowl is serious business

 

[mquinnjr]

If 2 TD's don't get scored this quarter...we have a chance, you guys...

 

[Raider Nation]

can't hold anything against RN here. the defensive players were clearly playing hard early on, but things just spiraled out of control.

I appreciate the sentiment, but why WOULD anyone hold that against me. Please point out where I recommended a play on the under. I clearly stated that the players would play harder this year to save the game, but that's it.

well, every news report you posted in here certainly seemed to lean that way. even when Dodds came in to post his thoughts the game would go over easily, you suggested he slow his roll and read the thread.I think you called it right. Just some nutty things going on here.

That's fair, I just wanted everyone to realize that it wouldn't be the pseudo flag football game that it was last year, but ultimately everyone has to make their own call.

 

[Treynwreck3]

Stuck-eee

 

[tjnc09]

Last two Pro Bowls combined for 96 and 100 points. Under/Over is a measly 82 points. Easy over with no one actually rushing the passers.

If you are bored, skim the last 10 or so pages where we've been discussing this.Most in here are on the under because the players know if they don't play the game hard, this game will be a memory.Check out the reports from the Pro Bowl this week. Peyton has been yelling at everyone there to "respect the game".

What is the point of bumping that?

Dodds prediction. What's it to you?

Let's bump a post about how easy the over is while almost everyone here has the under and live bet the under.Lol classy

 

[John Bender]

What's with all the #####ing in here tonight? This is supposed to be a fun and friendly thread.

Sorry. Felt like I was being attacked.

Not you man.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Last two Pro Bowls combined for 96 and 100 points. Under/Over is a measly 82 points. Easy over with no one actually rushing the passers.

If you are bored, skim the last 10 or so pages where we've been discussing this.Most in here are on the under because the players know if they don't play the game hard, this game will be a memory.Check out the reports from the Pro Bowl this week. Peyton has been yelling at everyone there to "respect the game".

What is the point of bumping that?

Dodds prediction. What's it to you?

Let's bump a post about how easy the over is while almost everyone here has the under and live bet the under.Lol classy

have we ever all been so on the wrong side of a game?

My post was in response to this, ########.

 

[Zegras11]

this is akin to "chip and a chair"

 

[modogg]

What's with all the #####ing in here tonight? This is supposed to be a fun and friendly thread.

i blame Mother ####### Jon Fox!!

 

[Raider Nation]

Welp, I guess the lesson here is that no matter how "hard" the defense plays, the offenses still have every advantage.They can't make this number high enough going forward.