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I like Blackmon for the long term
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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (2 Viewers)
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Footballguy
I like Fitz/Pierce
The Clamface
Footballguy
Thats a good play.
cstu
Footballguy
I love that the guy giving Julio had to give up the 1.12 as well...because you know Julio and Fleener just wasn't enough.
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Team A loves trading, he dealt me Harvin yesterday, but I never get the dream deals like this off him.
BuckeyeChaos
Footballguy
team A gives Calvin Johnson
team B gives Mike Wallace, 1.9, 1.10 and 1.13 rookie picks in 2013
team B gives Mike Wallace, 1.9, 1.10 and 1.13 rookie picks in 2013
Not that close. Sorry SSOG
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
That is about as cheap as Calvin can come right now.
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Calvin
doombringer
Footballguy
12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Tony Gonzales
Team B: 3.03
Team A: Matt Schaub
Team B: 3.08
Team A: Victor Cruz
Team B: 1.03 & 1.07
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Drew Brees
Team B: 2014 1st
Team A: 1.03
Team B: Lamar Miller, Ronnie Hillman, 2.09
Team A: Matt Schaub, 2.07, 3.07, 2014 1st
Team B: Joe Flacco, Vick Ballard, Jon Baldwin, Titus Young
Team A: Andy Dalton, Arian Foster, Ben Tate
Team B: Daryl Richardson, Dez Bryant
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
Team A: Lesean Mccoy, Calvin Johnson, Sidney Rice, Torrey Smith
Team B: Rob Gronkowski, David Wilson, Randall Cobb, 1.06, 2.06
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Tony Gonzales
Team B: 3.03
Team A: Matt Schaub
Team B: 3.08
Team A: Victor Cruz
Team B: 1.03 & 1.07
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Drew Brees
Team B: 2014 1st
Team A: 1.03
Team B: Lamar Miller, Ronnie Hillman, 2.09
Team A: Matt Schaub, 2.07, 3.07, 2014 1st
Team B: Joe Flacco, Vick Ballard, Jon Baldwin, Titus Young
Team A: Andy Dalton, Arian Foster, Ben Tate
Team B: Daryl Richardson, Dez Bryant
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
Team A: Lesean Mccoy, Calvin Johnson, Sidney Rice, Torrey Smith
Team B: Rob Gronkowski, David Wilson, Randall Cobb, 1.06, 2.06
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Team a should have their name changed to the Dolphins
Gawain
Footballguy
Guess they did get the best WR on the market.
JPeso
Footballguy
And short-term.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Love the Decker/Bush/Pick side especially if Reggie inks in Detroit.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ill take McCoy and Calvin
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Footballguy
Decker side
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Me too, but it's pretty close. I think Gronk is closer in value to Calvin than most. But McCoy is the only RB under 25 with two top 3 seasons under his belt (3 top 10), and I'd feel better with him, than I would with Wilson. You lose value giving Cobb for Smith, but both have potential and flaws. I think Calvin over Gronk and McCoy over Wilson is enough to offest the value losses elsewhere.
Prussian
Footballguy
Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
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Charles/Bowe by a mile; but I actually prefer Harvin by a long-shot over that mix of marginal picks.
doombringer
Footballguy
The Harvin Deal is great for the guy getting Harvin. What is a 2nd or 3rd rounder other than a toss in? 2.1 or 2.2 maybe, after that really, and i get it, value is what it is, but after the mid 2nd it really is a crapshoot of guys you personally like. No one bats 1000% either. I just wish i had known he was on the market for those pennies.
Maybe i am the bad FF'er because i did the Miller and 1.01 trade for my Charles and Bowe. I am always one who believes fortune favors the bold. We all know who Jammal is, a very good ppr back who is will be 27 at midseason, with the addition of Mr. Ried he is not a question mark but more of an unknown on what to expect. I wish i could have kept him. Bowe was my wr5, and think he is a worth about a 1.5 at best. I won the league last year but my rbs are junk and i see the cliff. Im not even saying i believe in Miller but what i am saying is you would be foolish to not recognize the oppurtunity. lesser backs have thrived. The 1.01 will be lacy and while you say junky top of the draft, i say no one knows yet. It ended up being lopsided due to needs, lack of exciting rbs available from other owners (sry i dont want a 1 year lone of oldmen or the weakling ryan matthews, mcfadden), and the hotbed of wrs ive accumulated. Its a luxury trade. I get 2 rbs who will be given a shot and are young. Puttin this out there for others on the fence with similar angles or thoughts. Sometimes you have to lose to win. I knew current market i was losing but i dont think jammal can increase in value and i know dwayne can't. Will miller/lacy outpreform charles/bowe this year? Probably not. Am i almost certain in two years if i wanted to i could swap back? Without a doubt if either guy plays football correct. Ive seen guys plummet and increase in moments. Be first not last. I really am trying not to be defensive either, i know i lost the trade today. Really just sharing thoughts the best i know how.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Interesting that you think the Harvin/picks trade is disgustingly unbalanced in favor of the side getting picks. I think most people would not only disagree with that, but actually think it's heavily unbalanced in favor of the side getting Harvin.On the second trade I'd prefer the Charles/Bowe side but I don't think it's crazy out of whack or anything.
squistion
Footballguy
I would pay that for Harvin.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
Agreed.Bowe has potential, but he is likely just a solid fantasy WR. There are lots of solid fantasy WRs. But getting him in addition to Charles is too much. I don't hate the Miller/1.01 side, there is a lot of potential there, but paying top dollar right now is too speculative to be giving up a blue chipper in Charles.
The Harvin trade is easy, Harvin wins. There is no "hype" involved here, Percy is a known quantity with a very good track record. Easy trade.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'd take the Charles/Bowe side but I don't think that deal was as bad as some are saying.
Agree with the confusion on that one. I've just paid much more than that to acquire Harvin. Guess I've bough into the hype too, but I'm very happy to do so and I would be even moreso at the above price
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think Charles is worth Lacy + Miller, and I am a big Lacy guy. Losing Bowe's value on top of that is a big hit. Haven't looked at ADP data in the last few weeks, but it was:Charles: 1.10-2.2Bowe: 5th-6th1.01/Lacy: 4thMiller: 5th-6thIn that context, it's bad. As someone that owns Lacy all over, I hope he ends up being as valuable as Charles soon. It could work out for both sides; Doug Martin was Eddie Lacy, value wise, last year, and he's likely worth Charles + Bowe. We'll see, but market value wise, it's pretty bad. Nothing personal, of course, and I hope it works out for the guy.
Bamac
Footballguy
Does this look better or worse after Bush, Welker signings?
bengalbuck
Footballguy
Agree with you on both. Would take the Harvin side and the Charles side easily.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
When I first looked at it, I expected Bush to sign in DET or a like situation. So, in that regard, I think the deal is better for you than I did at the time. Decker's value took a hit, in my opinion. I think the deal could work out for you, and would have considered making it, considering your other WR options. I'm pretty high on Morris.
bengalbuck
Footballguy
Great analysis. Whenever there are really young guys and/or early draft picks involved, it is a trade either side could end up winning. In terms of current value though, I do think Miller and Bowe are pretty close. So you are basically giving up Charles for the 1.01 which could work out, but is giving up a lot of current value.
Bamac
Footballguy
Yeah, I knew it was an overpay at the time. I think Welker signing brings it closer to fair value.
Spin
Footballguy
Start 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/flex(any)/idp Ppr
Traded D. Richardson for 2014 1st.
Guessing it'll be mid to early. Team finished 4th to last in points for last year but is doing a nice job rebuilding so o expect him to be around middle of pack.
Already have Rice/Trich/Charles/Jstew so D. Rich was expendable. Got three people inquiring about him today and took the best offer.
Traded D. Richardson for 2014 1st.
Guessing it'll be mid to early. Team finished 4th to last in points for last year but is doing a nice job rebuilding so o expect him to be around middle of pack.
Already have Rice/Trich/Charles/Jstew so D. Rich was expendable. Got three people inquiring about him today and took the best offer.
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Footballguy
1.8 for me. I like Brown but think I can get a better prospect there
Phenix
Footballguy
This looks like a even better move now.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
12 team PPR start 1/2/2/1 and a flex
Gave
Cecil shorts
Received
Jordy Nelson
Gave
Cecil shorts
Received
Jordy Nelson
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Wow. Jordy by a TON
Phenix
Footballguy
Yeah, yikes, someone must of worried about Jennings coming back big time to move Nelson for that price.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
It was EBF who I know is a big Shorts fan, he's got strong WRs on his roster and I guess felt like he took afford to take the risk on Cecil.
Obviously not good value for Nelson... BUT, I actually think Shorts could be a better WR than him (worse situation for sure). I wouldn't do it but I do think Shorts is legit if he stays healthy.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Agree re Shorts, I didn't want to give him up but I like the rest of my roster to make a run and think Nelson helps me do that.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
MaclinEven. I'd prefer Floyd and the pick although I'd understand if you need a qbToss up. Time will tell
Phenix
Footballguy
Most uneven trade I have ever seen, and should be vetoed if it did not involve the commish.
[*]SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB;Woodhead, Danny NEP RB;Moss, Santana WAS WR;Gates, Antonio SDC TE
[*]Taint Meat Strips gave up Newton, Cam CAR QB;James, LaMichael SFO RB;Wallace, Mike MIA WR;Witten, Jason DAL TE; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04
[*]SOGGY WAFFLES gave up Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB;Woodhead, Danny NEP RB;Moss, Santana WAS WR;Gates, Antonio SDC TE
[*]Taint Meat Strips gave up Newton, Cam CAR QB;James, LaMichael SFO RB;Wallace, Mike MIA WR;Witten, Jason DAL TE; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04
