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I like Blackmon for the long termTeam a gives Ryan Matthews, James Jones, and pick 2.10Tam b gives Justin Blackman, and Josh MOrgan10 team ppr
I like Blackmon for the long termTeam a gives Ryan Matthews, James Jones, and pick 2.10Tam b gives Justin Blackman, and Josh MOrgan10 team ppr
I like Fitz/Pierce12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/3/1. I gave: Ingram, Antonio Brown, RudolphI get: Fitzgerald, PierceI made a play that Fitz gets back on track.
Thats a good play.12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/3/1. I gave: Ingram, Antonio Brown, RudolphI get: Fitzgerald, PierceI made a play that Fitz gets back on track.
I love that the guy giving Julio had to give up the 1.12 as well...because you know Julio and Fleener just wasn't enough.Terrible deal in our non ppr league, I wasn't involved but wish I wasteam A gaveJulio JonesFleener Seattle1.12team B gaveD.RichardsonT. SmithM. Bennett Bears1.061.092014 1st
Team A loves trading, he dealt me Harvin yesterday, but I never get the dream deals like this off him.I love that the guy giving Julio and to give up the 1.12 as well...because you know Julio and Fleener just wasn't enough.Terrible deal in our non ppr league, I wasn't involved but wish I wasteam A gaveJulio JonesFleener Seattle1.12team B gaveD.RichardsonT. SmithM. Bennett Bears1.061.092014 1st
Not that close. Sorry SSOGteam A gives Calvin Johnson
team B gives Mike Wallace, 1.9, 1.10 and 1.13 rookie picks in 2013
That is about as cheap as Calvin can come right now.team A gives Calvin Johnsonteam B gives Mike Wallace, 1.9, 1.10 and 1.13 rookie picks in 2013
Calvinteam A gives Calvin Johnsonteam B gives Mike Wallace, 1.9, 1.10 and 1.13 rookie picks in 2013
Team a should have their name changed to the Dolphinsteam A gives Calvin Johnsonteam B gives Mike Wallace, 1.9, 1.10 and 1.13 rookie picks in 2013
Guess they did get the best WR on the market.Team a should have their name changed to the Dolphinsteam A gives Calvin Johnsonteam B gives Mike Wallace, 1.9, 1.10 and 1.13 rookie picks in 2013
Big balls swinging'doombringer said:Team A: Lesean Mccoy, Calvin Johnson, Sidney Rice, Torrey SmithTeam B: Rob Gronkowski, David Wilson, Randall Cobb, 1.06, 2.06
And short-term.I like Blackmon for the long termTeam a gives Ryan Matthews, James Jones, and pick 2.10Tam b gives Justin Blackman, and Josh MOrgan10 team ppr
Love the Decker/Bush/Pick side especially if Reggie inks in Detroit.12 team PPR; 2rb, 3wr, TE, flexGive: Decker, Reggie Bush, pick 1.10Get: Alf Morris, pick 3.06Still have Cruz, Roddy, Garçon, Amendola at WR (and plan to flex TE Hernandez)RBs are now Gore, Morris, Bryce Brown
If the '14 1st is early it may not end up being that bad, but we'll have to wait on that one lol.'cstu said:I love that the guy giving Julio had to give up the 1.12 as well...because you know Julio and Fleener just wasn't enough.'dewmass said:Terrible deal in our non ppr league, I wasn't involved but wish I wasteam A gaveJulio JonesFleener Seattle1.12team B gaveD.RichardsonT. SmithM. Bennett Bears1.061.092014 1st
Ill take McCoy and CalvinBig balls swinging'doombringer said:Team A: Lesean Mccoy, Calvin Johnson, Sidney Rice, Torrey SmithTeam B: Rob Gronkowski, David Wilson, Randall Cobb, 1.06, 2.06
Decker side12 team PPR; 2rb, 3wr, TE, flexGive: Decker, Reggie Bush, pick 1.10Get: Alf Morris, pick 3.06Still have Cruz, Roddy, Garçon, Amendola at WR (and plan to flex TE Hernandez)RBs are now Gore, Morris, Bryce Brown
Me too, but it's pretty close. I think Gronk is closer in value to Calvin than most. But McCoy is the only RB under 25 with two top 3 seasons under his belt (3 top 10), and I'd feel better with him, than I would with Wilson. You lose value giving Cobb for Smith, but both have potential and flaws. I think Calvin over Gronk and McCoy over Wilson is enough to offest the value losses elsewhere.Ill take McCoy and CalvinBig balls swinging'doombringer said:Team A: Lesean Mccoy, Calvin Johnson, Sidney Rice, Torrey SmithTeam B: Rob Gronkowski, David Wilson, Randall Cobb, 1.06, 2.06
Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
Charles/Bowe by a mile; but I actually prefer Harvin by a long-shot over that mix of marginal picks.Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
The Harvin Deal is great for the guy getting Harvin. What is a 2nd or 3rd rounder other than a toss in? 2.1 or 2.2 maybe, after that really, and i get it, value is what it is, but after the mid 2nd it really is a crapshoot of guys you personally like. No one bats 1000% either. I just wish i had known he was on the market for those pennies.Charles/Bowe by a mile; but I actually prefer Harvin by a long-shot over that mix of marginal picks.Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
Interesting that you think the Harvin/picks trade is disgustingly unbalanced in favor of the side getting picks. I think most people would not only disagree with that, but actually think it's heavily unbalanced in favor of the side getting Harvin.On the second trade I'd prefer the Charles/Bowe side but I don't think it's crazy out of whack or anything.Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
I would pay that for Harvin.Charles/Bowe by a mile; but I actually prefer Harvin by a long-shot over that mix of marginal picks.Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
Agreed.Bowe has potential, but he is likely just a solid fantasy WR. There are lots of solid fantasy WRs. But getting him in addition to Charles is too much. I don't hate the Miller/1.01 side, there is a lot of potential there, but paying top dollar right now is too speculative to be giving up a blue chipper in Charles.Charles/Bowe by a mile; but I actually prefer Harvin by a long-shot over that mix of marginal picks.Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
I'd take the Charles/Bowe side but I don't think that deal was as bad as some are saying.Maybe i am the bad FF'er because i did the Miller and 1.01 trade for my Charles and Bowe.
Agree with the confusion on that one. I've just paid much more than that to acquire Harvin. Guess I've bough into the hype too, but I'm very happy to do so and I would be even moreso at the above priceAnother two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.'doombringer said:12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
I think Charles is worth Lacy + Miller, and I am a big Lacy guy. Losing Bowe's value on top of that is a big hit. Haven't looked at ADP data in the last few weeks, but it was:Charles: 1.10-2.2Bowe: 5th-6th1.01/Lacy: 4thMiller: 5th-6thIn that context, it's bad. As someone that owns Lacy all over, I hope he ends up being as valuable as Charles soon. It could work out for both sides; Doug Martin was Eddie Lacy, value wise, last year, and he's likely worth Charles + Bowe. We'll see, but market value wise, it's pretty bad. Nothing personal, of course, and I hope it works out for the guy.I'd take the Charles/Bowe side but I don't think that deal was as bad as some are saying.Maybe i am the bad FF'er because i did the Miller and 1.01 trade for my Charles and Bowe.
Does this look better or worse after Bush, Welker signings?Decker side12 team PPR; 2rb, 3wr, TE, flexGive: Decker, Reggie Bush, pick 1.10Get: Alf Morris, pick 3.06Still have Cruz, Roddy, Garçon, Amendola at WR (and plan to flex TE Hernandez)RBs are now Gore, Morris, Bryce Brown
Agree with you on both. Would take the Harvin side and the Charles side easily.Charles/Bowe by a mile; but I actually prefer Harvin by a long-shot over that mix of marginal picks.Another two or three of those shared were marginal\questionable .... but these two are ridiculously bad. WAY too much for Harvin ... someone bought in to the hype.12 team ppr leagues
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/flex/te
Multiple different leagues ; all fairly recent.
Team A: Percy Harvin
Team B: 1.12, 2.09, 2014 1st, 2nd, & 3rd
Team A: Jammal Charles, Dwayne Bowe
Team B: 1.01, Lamar Miller
And who in their right mind gives up Charles AND Bowe for Miller and this year's 1.01? There is no clear cut stud in this year's rookie class to justify a top five RB (especially in PPR) and a WR like Bowe ... arguably top ten\fifteen?
Ugh.
When I first looked at it, I expected Bush to sign in DET or a like situation. So, in that regard, I think the deal is better for you than I did at the time. Decker's value took a hit, in my opinion. I think the deal could work out for you, and would have considered making it, considering your other WR options. I'm pretty high on Morris.Does this look better or worse after Bush, Welker signings?Decker side12 team PPR; 2rb, 3wr, TE, flexGive: Decker, Reggie Bush, pick 1.10Get: Alf Morris, pick 3.06Still have Cruz, Roddy, Garçon, Amendola at WR (and plan to flex TE Hernandez)RBs are now Gore, Morris, Bryce Brown
Great analysis. Whenever there are really young guys and/or early draft picks involved, it is a trade either side could end up winning. In terms of current value though, I do think Miller and Bowe are pretty close. So you are basically giving up Charles for the 1.01 which could work out, but is giving up a lot of current value.I think Charles is worth Lacy + Miller, and I am a big Lacy guy. Losing Bowe's value on top of that is a big hit. Haven't looked at ADP data in the last few weeks, but it was:Charles: 1.10-2.2Bowe: 5th-6th1.01/Lacy: 4thMiller: 5th-6thIn that context, it's bad. As someone that owns Lacy all over, I hope he ends up being as valuable as Charles soon. It could work out for both sides; Doug Martin was Eddie Lacy, value wise, last year, and he's likely worth Charles + Bowe. We'll see, but market value wise, it's pretty bad. Nothing personal, of course, and I hope it works out for the guy.I'd take the Charles/Bowe side but I don't think that deal was as bad as some are saying.Maybe i am the bad FF'er because i did the Miller and 1.01 trade for my Charles and Bowe.
Yeah, I knew it was an overpay at the time. I think Welker signing brings it closer to fair value.When I first looked at it, I expected Bush to sign in DET or a like situation. So, in that regard, I think the deal is better for you than I did at the time. Decker's value took a hit, in my opinion. I think the deal could work out for you, and would have considered making it, considering your other WR options. I'm pretty high on Morris.Does this look better or worse after Bush, Welker signings?Decker side12 team PPR; 2rb, 3wr, TE, flexGive: Decker, Reggie Bush, pick 1.10Get: Alf Morris, pick 3.06Still have Cruz, Roddy, Garçon, Amendola at WR (and plan to flex TE Hernandez)RBs are now Gore, Morris, Bryce Brown
1.8 for me. I like Brown but think I can get a better prospect there14 team PPR league with Devy picks, and TE's get 1.5 PPRGave: Vincent BrownGot: 1.08 and Brandon Myers
This looks like a even better move now.+2. YikesOof.•Suh-spended Arm Stomping Brigade gave up Hawkins, Andrew CIN WR;Graham, Jimmy NOS TE•Kiss My Ring gave up Leshoure, Mikel DET RB;Finley, Jermichael GBP TE; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.11
Wow. Jordy by a TON12 team PPR start 1/2/2/1 and a flexGave Cecil shortsReceivedJordy Nelson
Yeah, yikes, someone must of worried about Jennings coming back big time to move Nelson for that price.Wow. Jordy by a TON12 team PPR start 1/2/2/1 and a flexGave Cecil shortsReceivedJordy Nelson
Obviously not good value for Nelson... BUT, I actually think Shorts could be a better WR than him (worse situation for sure). I wouldn't do it but I do think Shorts is legit if he stays healthy.Yeah, yikes, someone must of worried about Jennings coming back big time to move Nelson for that price.Wow. Jordy by a TON12 team PPR start 1/2/2/1 and a flexGave Cecil shortsReceivedJordy Nelson
Agree re Shorts, I didn't want to give him up but I like the rest of my roster to make a run and think Nelson helps me do that.Obviously not good value for Nelson... BUT, I actually think Shorts could be a better WR than him (worse situation for sure). I wouldn't do it but I do think Shorts is legit if he stays healthy.Yeah, yikes, someone must of worried about Jennings coming back big time to move Nelson for that price.Wow. Jordy by a TON12 team PPR start 1/2/2/1 and a flexGave Cecil shortsReceivedJordy Nelson
MaclinEven. I'd prefer Floyd and the pick although I'd understand if you need a qbToss up. Time will tell14 Team PPRTeam A Gave: MaclinTeam B Gave: 1.7, CrinerTeam C Gave: Michael Floyd, 1.3Team D Gave: Russell WilsonTeam E Gave: Fred DavisTeam F Gave: 2.10