Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Please god, let us be done with this guy.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Josh Gordon may not play in the Patriots' third preseason game.
Gordon was conditionally reinstated but still has some hurdles to clear before he can practice and play in games. Even if he's cleared, it's a stretch that he'd be ready to go after an extended layoff. Gordon's preseason availability is up in the air, but he should be ready for Week 1.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Aug 17, 2019, 12:13 PM ET
I own him in one league and I started building my team around the idea he wouldn't be around ever again. So the fact that he's actually playing and might have WR 2-3 upside has really improved the outlook of that team. Stacked at WR now.I can’t quit you, Josh.
PFF @PFF
Josh Gordon is BACK!
In the short time together, the Brady-to-Gordon connection resulted in 11.3 yards per attempt which is the best mark by a Brady-to-receiver duo in the PFF era, beating out notable combinations like Brady to Gronk (10.3) and Brady to Moss (9.2).
The emergence of Jakobi Meyers on top of what Henry brings to the table muddies the waters for Gordon significantly.Faust said:
Tom Brady makes that decision. No one else.I don't think we can presume Gordon is now the de facto WR2.
I don't think so. IMO, Edelman is their clear go to guy and Gordon their #2. If healthy, Dorsett starts the season as their #3. Harry loses out with Gordon returning, especially being banged up and being a rookie. Meyers earns an apprentice role under Edelman (like Edelman was under Welker). Berrios might stick as a returner (or will end up on the practice squad). Thomas and Meredith on PUP. The local media thinks Harris might round out the WR corps, at least to start the season.The emergence of Jakobi Meyers on top of what Henry brings to the table muddies the waters for Gordon significantly.
I don't think we can presume Gordon is now the de facto WR2.
Sure he does. Like that time he decided to trade away Randy Moss.Tom Brady makes that decision. No one else.
I wonder who Brady was tossing to this offseason..... *tee hee*
no, you're right... others decide who Tom is throwing to on the field.Sure he does. Like that time he decided to trade away Randy Moss.
Break that down a little more clearly? I have no idea what you're trying to say.no, you're right... others decide who Tom is throwing to on the field.
but only in this case. because it's gordon.
brady doesn't call his own shots in 2019
I don't think we can presume Gordon is now the de facto WR2.
Tom Brady makes that decision. No one else.
I wonder who Brady was tossing to this offseason..... *tee hee*
exactly that. no one can presume who Brady's #2 except for brady. Not the coaches, owners et. Brady does what brady wantsBreak that down a little more clearly? I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Patriots placed Josh Gordon on the active/NFI list.
Gordon has been reinstated, but the Patriots are putting him on the NFI list for the short-term while they make roster moves and get him acclimated with the team again. This shouldn't affect his Week 1 status. Last year, Gordon reached weekly WR2 status, but he remains a boom-or-bust fantasy asset.
SOURCE: Field Yates on Twitter
Aug 18, 2019, 5:22 PM ET
All I remember was back shoulders.Hairy Snowman said:" Much of Gordon's production came courtesy of slants and in-routes, which highlight the wideout's massive 6-foot-3, 225-pound frame and willingness to play physically. With New England combining Gordon's size with Brady's accuracy, the opposition's smaller, lighter defensive backs often found themselves in situations where they couldn't win, unable to go through Gordon or to work around him. The numbers don't lie: Brady was 11-of-15 for 145 yards when targeting Gordon on slants, and 8-of-9 for 198 yards and a TD on in-routes.
I would keep Westbrook without hesitation; can you try and move Gordon at least for a little something back?Now I have to decide whether to keep gordon or a guy like dede westbrook in my dynasty league. I was all set with westbrook and I guess this is a good problem to have...Gordon is still young at 28 and could have maybe 2-3 good years with the pats IF...IF he stays out of trouble. I realize that's a big IF. But IF he does, I think he is more valuable than Dede.
Doug Kyed @DougKyed
Josh Gordon is heading out to practice in pads. Looks like he's coming off NFI.
Josh Gordon is in full pads at Sunday's practice.
This is an indication that Gordon was taken off the active/NFI list, which would be the final hurdle to Gordon suiting up for Week 1. Last year, Gordon emerged as a weekly WR2 option down the stretch after earning the trust of Tom Brady. Gordon, of course, has zero floor, but he needs to be viewed as an upside WR2/3 whenever he's on the active roster.
SOURCE: Phil Perry on Twitter
Aug 25, 2019, 2:49 PM ET
Way high for me. Just couldn't bring myself to take him as anything more than a WR 4 with upside.6.06 in an IDP draft (live) a few mins ago. Adjust ADP for 4x IDP players taken in the 5th/6th.
Taken as his WR2 (1.07 Julio Jones)
Patriots activated Josh Gordon from the active/NFI list.
It's go time. This was the last major hurdle for Gordon to play Week 1, so all he needs to do is practice for the next two weeks, which is something he did on Sunday afternoon. Gordon's return is huge news for Tom Brady and the Gronk-less Patriots because Gordon offers the most playmaking ability on the roster. Gordon was able to earn every-week WR2 status in fantasy last year and that could very well be the case in 2019, too. As always, Gordon carries as much risk as any player in fantasy.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Aug 25, 2019, 4:57 PM ET
This says a lot on Gordon's fitness and conditioning level. He must have had training like crazy during offseason. Shame on being suspended throughout the training camp when he could had practice reps with Tom Brady.Rotoworld take:
wrongexactly that. no one can presume who Brady's #2 except for brady. Not the coaches, owners et. Brady does what brady wants
WR3 in the mid-6th with a huge run of WEs before him? I don’t mind the gamble.Way high for me. Just couldn't bring myself to take him as anything more than a WR 4 with upside.
Austin Gayle @PFF_AustinGayle
Josh Gordon's career yards per route run average (2.12) ranks 10th at his position since 2012.
We all deserve a full season of Flash Gordon & Tom Brady. We just do.
Count me in. I took him as a boom pick at 7.02 in 12 team ppr. I am gambling my season on him being at his floor, a wr2..i like risk.
VROOM VROOM
If only this was 2007. Moss came in and completely changed the receiving route trees and worked with Brady and the coaching staff to re-imagine the offense. He essentially quadrupled the play book. He sat down with Brady, McDaniels, and BB and explained to them the concept of in-play route adjustments based on what defenders were doing while a play was developing. He literally broke down game film and explained where the holes in the defense would be. I don't see Gordon having that level of impact on the offense. I don't see the 2013 version of Josh Gordon walking through the door.
Josh Gordon’s 2013 season:
• 3rd-of-94 WRs in yards per route run
• 55% catch rate
• 10.4 yards per target
• 111.8 QB rating when targeted
• 11.4 targets per game
Gordon with Patriots in 2018:
• 14th-of-96 in YPPR
• 59% catch rate
• 10.6 YPT
• 117.8 rating
• 6.2 T/G
He has topped 50 catches once in his life (2013.)
I don’t mean as a pro. That’s including his h.s. and college career.