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Was hoping this guy may somehow be forgotten for the next 8 or 9 picks. Ted Thompson just shed a tear.With the 14th selection the Seattle Seahawks select Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
Was hoping this guy may somehow be forgotten for the next 8 or 9 picks. Ted Thompson just shed a tear.With the 14th selection the Seattle Seahawks select Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
Worst pick so far, IMO, just from a reality standpoint.Don't understand where he'd fit in that 49ers D with his skill set.He doesn't have the agility to be an OLB, and he'll get run over as a 3-4 DE.1.13 49ers select Derrick MorganSorry, on the road, write up laterPlease PM next
Oof. Seems to me like you passed on two RTs and took a guy that doesn't fit the system.Looking forward to your explanation.vandyt said:Worst pick so far, IMO, just from a reality standpoint.Don't understand where he'd fit in that 49ers D with his skill set.He doesn't have the agility to be an OLB, and he'll get run over as a 3-4 DE.1.13 49ers select Derrick MorganSorry, on the road, write up laterPlease PM next
Make 'em count!!!I'll take the Cows.
I was pondering him with the Pats pick at 22. He certainly seems like a player right out of the Steelers central casting department. With Neal not retiring, according to his agent, it doesn't seem to be as much of a pressing need with the young depth behind him; he is a Free Agent though and plans to test the water. The cat just can't seem to stay healthy so that may hurt his prospects.1.18 Steelers select Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Guy proved at the senior bowl that he's a road grader of the highest order. Plugging him in with Starks - Kemo - Hartwig - Iupati - Colon instantly upgrades the Steelers' o-line from mediocre to solid.
Take that, IB.
I'm just wondering how well he fits in here. Your analysis is spot on, so you're probably right that he's a good pick. Trading down would be ideal, I wonder if Cromartie and 1.28 would be worth it.With the 1.17 pick of the Draft, the Titans select.........
Sergio Kindle
Where the Titans go here really depends on the best player available, but the Titans need a DE since VandenBosch and Kearse are FA’s/old, a CB to play opposite Finnegan and a LB to take over for Bulluck who is a FA (coming off a torn ACL, if they bring him back).
They are also desperate for a PR/KR since they tried out everyone with a pulse last year in that position. I would be surprised if Fisher went OL right here since it looks like they are going to be able to re-sign Amano at LG.
One of the biggest liabilities for the Titans this past year was the ability to get to the QB. I don't think they will take a DT early unless they think the value is tremendous, since it's not as big of a need as DE, CB, or OLB.
One possibility that I would not rule out is for the Titans to trade out of the first round and pick up more picks/players, since Fisher has been known to stock up on picks, and they also currently don’t have a second. Especially with Spiller sitting right there at this time. I think they would seriously be working the phones right now.
That being said, the Titans take Sergio Kindle DE/OLB at the 17th pick. I think this would be the most versatile pick for them since he can either play at the DE with a little more weight or at the OLB spot at his current weight. At 6-4 255 he played great at the BCS title game with 8 tackles and 2.5 sacks. Plus anyone that plays for Texas will get plenty of consideration from the Titans.
A lot of Mocks I have seen have Pierre-Paul in this spot for the DE. Although he is freak of nature, he has not played much football and considered somewhat of a project, and the Titans don't have time for that.
Look for the Titans to try to find a CB/KR in the 3rd round since they don’t have a 2nd. I like Javier Arenas from Alabama or Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana of Penn(mainly because of his name).
Pondering him for the Pack as well.I was pondering him with the Pats pick at 22. He certainly seems like a player right out of the Steelers central casting department. With Neal not retiring, according to his agent, it doesn't seem to be as much of a pressing need with the young depth behind him; he is a Free Agent though and plans to test the water. The cat just can't seem to stay healthy so that may hurt his prospects.1.18 Steelers select Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Guy proved at the senior bowl that he's a road grader of the highest order. Plugging him in with Starks - Kemo - Hartwig - Iupati - Colon instantly upgrades the Steelers' o-line from mediocre to solid.
Take that, IB.
1.18 Steelers select Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Guy proved at the senior bowl that he's a road grader of the highest order. Plugging him in with Starks - Kemo - Hartwig - Iupati - Colon instantly upgrades the Steelers' o-line from mediocre to solid.
Take that, IB.
Graham's going to make for a pretty small 4-3 DE for Atlanta at 6'1", 268 lbs. A little surprised by this choice.Great football player though. Green Bay has to cross another guy off their big board.With the 19th pick, the Atlanta Falcons select......
1.19 Brandon Graham - OLB (DE) - Michigan
I want this guy badly. I wanted him badly before the Senior Bowl, I wish he hadn't played because his stock went up. He's 6'6" 330 lbs and fast as hell - reminds me of a better Kemo. Nasty and strong as an ox. Only downside is that he's still raw - he didn't start playing football until age 14 and didn't learn English until that time either, so he hasn't been as easy to coach. He still has some footwork flaws and can get caught reaching, but he has all the tools and as much upside as anyone in the draft (along with Davis.) He can play G right away and has all the tools to be a LT down the road if they can get his feet right.However, when the actual draft rolls around, don't be shocked if the Steelers take a NT. I think they want a guy in soon that can be Hampton's successor and those types of guys are hard to find. Hampton's 33 and has a history of weight issues, I see a tag in his future rather than a 4-year megabucks deal.1.18 Steelers select Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Guy proved at the senior bowl that he's a road grader of the highest order. Plugging him in with Starks - Kemo - Hartwig - Iupati - Colon instantly upgrades the Steelers' o-line from mediocre to solid.
Take that, IB.
So is Big Moobs Cody on the Pitt big board in the 1st?However, when the actual draft rolls around, don't be shocked if the Steelers take a NT. I think they want a guy in soon that can be Hampton's successor and those types of guys are hard to find. Hampton's 33 and has a history of weight issues, I see a tag in his future rather than a 4-year megabucks deal.
Exactly the pick I was expecting and would have made here for the Texans. Fills a need and could be considered a value at this point in the draft. Well done.The Houston Texans select Earl Thomas DB University of Texas
The ability of Thomas to be a cover safety and/or potential even play corner makes him the pick here. The need is a defensive back with ball skills from either position. If Dunta Robinson goes via free agency then Thomas has the cover skills to play CB. If Robinson returns, then the okay, but not special Eugene Wilson becomes quality veteran depth. Earl's weakness is against the run, but paired with Pollard he would not be placed in a run support situation very often.
It's possible.So is Big Moobs Cody on the Pitt big board in the 1st?However, when the actual draft rolls around, don't be shocked if the Steelers take a NT. I think they want a guy in soon that can be Hampton's successor and those types of guys are hard to find. Hampton's 33 and has a history of weight issues, I see a tag in his future rather than a 4-year megabucks deal.
I don't see how they can pass Iupati up if he's there. As you said, a strong RG can bring our OL from poor to stable with potential. No doubt they need an NT, but they can get one in Rd 2.I want this guy badly. I wanted him badly before the Senior Bowl, I wish he hadn't played because his stock went up. He's 6'6" 330 lbs and fast as hell - reminds me of a better Kemo. Nasty and strong as an ox. Only downside is that he's still raw - he didn't start playing football until age 14 and didn't learn English until that time either, so he hasn't been as easy to coach. He still has some footwork flaws and can get caught reaching, but he has all the tools and as much upside as anyone in the draft (along with Davis.) He can play G right away and has all the tools to be a LT down the road if they can get his feet right.However, when the actual draft rolls around, don't be shocked if the Steelers take a NT. I think they want a guy in soon that can be Hampton's successor and those types of guys are hard to find. Hampton's 33 and has a history of weight issues, I see a tag in his future rather than a 4-year megabucks deal.1.18 Steelers select Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Guy proved at the senior bowl that he's a road grader of the highest order. Plugging him in with Starks - Kemo - Hartwig - Iupati - Colon instantly upgrades the Steelers' o-line from mediocre to solid.
Take that, IB.
He will play OLB, but has the versitility to play DE, I dont think he will fully evolve to a DE, but as a OLB he should help the core of the Defense out for years to come.Graham's going to make for a pretty small 4-3 DE for Atlanta at 6'1", 268 lbs. A little surprised by this choice.Great football player though. Green Bay has to cross another guy off their big board.With the 19th pick, the Atlanta Falcons select......
1.19 Brandon Graham - OLB (DE) - Michigan
Wouldn't be surprised if the pick is Pouncey instead of Iupati. He can play any IOL position but will be a natural replacement for Hartwig if Legs flames out. (Hartwig was easily the weak link on the line.) He's a better prospect than Mack was, and IIRC he's barely 20 years old. 2012 All Pro C potential.As much as I want the OL shored up, it's tough for me to value IOL as a mid-1st round value.I don't see how they can pass Iupati up if he's there. As you said, a strong RG can bring our OL from poor to stable with potential. No doubt they need an NT, but they can get one in Rd 2.I want this guy badly. I wanted him badly before the Senior Bowl, I wish he hadn't played because his stock went up. He's 6'6" 330 lbs and fast as hell - reminds me of a better Kemo. Nasty and strong as an ox. Only downside is that he's still raw - he didn't start playing football until age 14 and didn't learn English until that time either, so he hasn't been as easy to coach. He still has some footwork flaws and can get caught reaching, but he has all the tools and as much upside as anyone in the draft (along with Davis.) He can play G right away and has all the tools to be a LT down the road if they can get his feet right.However, when the actual draft rolls around, don't be shocked if the Steelers take a NT. I think they want a guy in soon that can be Hampton's successor and those types of guys are hard to find. Hampton's 33 and has a history of weight issues, I see a tag in his future rather than a 4-year megabucks deal.1.18 Steelers select Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Guy proved at the senior bowl that he's a road grader of the highest order. Plugging him in with Starks - Kemo - Hartwig - Iupati - Colon instantly upgrades the Steelers' o-line from mediocre to solid.
Take that, IB.
You just crushed me! I was typing up my Spiller post. I did not see this coming with all of NE's defensive needs.1.22 New England Patriots select C. J. Spiller RB Clemson
Of course in real life, some team will have a huge one for Spiller or some player at this point and overpay for the pick while NE moves down and accumulates more wealth. But, this is a mock1.22 New England Patriots select C. J. Spiller RB Clemson
The Patriots need impact players on both sides of the ball. Spiller would be a great addition to the offense. Moss is in the last year of his contract, Edelman looks as though he can fill the role somewhat for Welker but it would be a lot to expect for him to match Wes's production and the RB's are largely on the other side of 30 with Maroney providing little in the way of a consistent punch. Spiller will not have to completely carry the load in the backfield and his return ability will provide a dynamism the team has lacked since Hobbs went to Philly. Spiller can also learn from K Faulk and slide into his role when he leaves after another year or so.
Believe me, it wasn't an easy decision. The Pats have issues/uncertainties with their front seven for sure. Maroney's inability to produce with any kind of consistency really hurts the team. The older guys just can't stay healthy and Faulk is the only reliable RB from week to week.You just crushed me! I was typing up my Spiller post. I did not see this coming with all of NE's defensive needs.1.22 New England Patriots select C. J. Spiller RB Clemson
Yeah, I doubt Spiller drops all the way to 22, but the Patriots would have to be thrilled. This still leaves their three picks in the second round to take care of the defense, and Spiller would provide an immediate spark for the offense and return game. As you said, it also helps that he can probably slide into the Faulk role in time. I love the guy, but the clock's ticking for him and New England could sure use a replacement.Of course in real life, some team will have a huge one for Spiller or some player at this point and overpay for the pick while NE moves down and accumulates more wealth. But, this is a mock1.22 New England Patriots select C. J. Spiller RB Clemson
The Patriots need impact players on both sides of the ball. Spiller would be a great addition to the offense. Moss is in the last year of his contract, Edelman looks as though he can fill the role somewhat for Welker but it would be a lot to expect for him to match Wes's production and the RB's are largely on the other side of 30 with Maroney providing little in the way of a consistent punch. Spiller will not have to completely carry the load in the backfield and his return ability will provide a dynamism the team has lacked since Hobbs went to Philly. Spiller can also learn from K Faulk and slide into his role when he leaves after another year or so.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh has taken a shine to Pouncey either. I'd hope if they wanted him they'd explore a trade down.As much as I agree with you about DB being extremely thin, the most important spot on the defensive side of the ball has a couple of 33 year olds manning it. I'm not advocating they take Cody at 18, but I certainly will not be able to fault them for addressing NT if they chose to go that direction. Either with a trade down or possibly considering Williams with their original pick if available(I know he wasn't in this mock). It's easy to say "Oh, they can get a NT in round 2." Yeah, well, they can probably get an OG in round 2 easier. The Steelers aren't only one of 2-3 teams running the 3-4 any longer. Sitting at 18, if they're not taking a tackle that's too high for an OL unless you are almost certain he's going to pan out. I like the big Samoan kid okay.....but he feels a bit overhyped to me. The talk of him being able to play tackle, etc.....I dunno. IMO, if he could play OT he'd be playing OT. I guess we'll see. I'd prefer a trade down if their draft scenario played out like it has here. Get extra picks and see which of Pouncey or Cody are available(or even Iupati if he falls). If none of those players are, explore DB options and then load up on both lines after that.That all said, I wouldn't be "upset" with them taking Iupati at #18, I will just be wondering if they made the best decision.Wouldn't be surprised if the pick is Pouncey instead of Iupati. He can play any IOL position but will be a natural replacement for Hartwig if Legs flames out. (Hartwig was easily the weak link on the line.) He's a better prospect than Mack was, and IIRC he's barely 20 years old. 2012 All Pro C potential.As much as I want the OL shored up, it's tough for me to value IOL as a mid-1st round value.That said, my pick at this point would have been Earl Thomas. Starts over Gay in Year 1 or even Clark if he walks. CB/S is easily the thinnest position on the Steelers roster and it would do wonders to add some ball skills to this group.
I think Essex was weaker than Hartwig.treat88 said:Wouldn't be surprised if the pick is Pouncey instead of Iupati. He can play any IOL position but will be a natural replacement for Hartwig if Legs flames out. (Hartwig was easily the weak link on the line.) He's a better prospect than Mack was, and IIRC he's barely 20 years old. 2012 All Pro C potential.As much as I want the OL shored up, it's tough for me to value IOL as a mid-1st round value.Idiot Boxer said:I don't see how they can pass Iupati up if he's there. As you said, a strong RG can bring our OL from poor to stable with potential. No doubt they need an NT, but they can get one in Rd 2.Evilgrin 72 said:I want this guy badly. I wanted him badly before the Senior Bowl, I wish he hadn't played because his stock went up. He's 6'6" 330 lbs and fast as hell - reminds me of a better Kemo. Nasty and strong as an ox. Only downside is that he's still raw - he didn't start playing football until age 14 and didn't learn English until that time either, so he hasn't been as easy to coach. He still has some footwork flaws and can get caught reaching, but he has all the tools and as much upside as anyone in the draft (along with Davis.) He can play G right away and has all the tools to be a LT down the road if they can get his feet right.However, when the actual draft rolls around, don't be shocked if the Steelers take a NT. I think they want a guy in soon that can be Hampton's successor and those types of guys are hard to find. Hampton's 33 and has a history of weight issues, I see a tag in his future rather than a 4-year megabucks deal.1.18 Steelers select Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Guy proved at the senior bowl that he's a road grader of the highest order. Plugging him in with Starks - Kemo - Hartwig - Iupati - Colon instantly upgrades the Steelers' o-line from mediocre to solid.
Take that, IB.
That said, my pick at this point would have been Earl Thomas. Starts over Gay in Year 1 or even Clark if he walks. CB/S is easily the thinnest position on the Steelers roster and it would do wonders to add some ball skills to this group.
Of course in the real world of the NFL the Patriots are still hurting from their trade with the Packers and the Jackson/Jennings swap!!!1.23 - The Green Bay Packers select Charles Brown, OT, USC
The Packers are reeling after the New England pick of Spiller at 22. Ted Thompson is furiously calling teams in an attempt to trade down. But since trades aren't happening here, Green Bay decides to take a chance on the extremely athletic OT from USC. Brown is a converted TE with great footwork and excellent pass blocking skills. He's a decent run blocker and his athleticism would translate well to Green Bay's zone blocking run game. Brown has a ton going for him but he needs to gain weight in a big way to make it at the next level. At 6'5" he's definitely tall enough, but at 290 pounds he needs to add weight. With most of the elite talent off the board the Packers decide to fill a need.
I hate this pick because I don't think Brown is a 1st round talent. I was hoping for the splash with Spiller because Green Bay is a team that could win now and a guy like Spiller could add enough to get them to where they want to go. Brown may be more of a future pick.....paying dividends 2-3 years down the road. It is a need though for Aaron Rodgers sake and if Brown beefs up, he could be a good one.
Other considerations: Jahvid Best, Jared Odrick
In the real world of the NFL I'll bet Ted Thompson will be calling NE inquiring about all those 2nd round picks to see if the Pats are interested in trading up into the 1st giving them b2b 1st round picks. In this draft that may give you Spiller and........Odrick?Of course in the real world of the NFL the Patriots are still hurting from their trade with the Packers and the Jackson/Jennings swap!!!1.23 - The Green Bay Packers select Charles Brown, OT, USC
The Packers are reeling after the New England pick of Spiller at 22. Ted Thompson is furiously calling teams in an attempt to trade down. But since trades aren't happening here, Green Bay decides to take a chance on the extremely athletic OT from USC. Brown is a converted TE with great footwork and excellent pass blocking skills. He's a decent run blocker and his athleticism would translate well to Green Bay's zone blocking run game. Brown has a ton going for him but he needs to gain weight in a big way to make it at the next level. At 6'5" he's definitely tall enough, but at 290 pounds he needs to add weight. With most of the elite talent off the board the Packers decide to fill a need.
I hate this pick because I don't think Brown is a 1st round talent. I was hoping for the splash with Spiller because Green Bay is a team that could win now and a guy like Spiller could add enough to get them to where they want to go. Brown may be more of a future pick.....paying dividends 2-3 years down the road. It is a need though for Aaron Rodgers sake and if Brown beefs up, he could be a good one.
Other considerations: Jahvid Best, Jared Odrick
Saints Front Office:With the 24th pick in the NFL Draft the Philadelphia Eagles select
1. 24 Seah Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri
Great Senior Bowl.
Solid Pass Rusher
Playmaking and Athleticism the Eagles need at this position. He is durable, charasmatic.
If you take a glance at the Patriots offseason thread, the offense in the second half of games let them down much more than that young defense.scrumptrulescent said:You just crushed me! I was typing up my Spiller post. I did not see this coming with all of NE's defensive needs.munchkin said:1.22 New England Patriots select C. J. Spiller RB Clemson
I didn't make a comment when this 1st hit, but Buffaloes taking Dan Williams at 1.11 hurts. I don't believe Denver will take him and I do believe Miami will jump all over him at 1.12Bryant bounces around a lot of boards but I have seen him going as late as the early part of the 2nd round. Very few skill position guys going in round 1 this year.1.12 Miami selects WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State
We all know Tuna does not select Wrs in the first round but the phins were not able to fill the void in FA and Dez is too good a talent to pass.
They know they cannot go into another season with a bunch of number 2's and 3's at WR (Love you to death Bess but you are not a 1). Dez will give Miami the true #1 allowing Bess to fill the 2 and Ginn to go to the slot and handle kickoff returns.
What about Cody? Not that OT isn't a need....but put Cody at NT....then Raji at LE and Jenkins at the other with Pickett and Harrell backing....that would certainly let the LB's roam freely.Just a thought......especially with Jolly's case coming up this offseason.1.23 - The Green Bay Packers select Charles Brown, OT, USC
The Packers are reeling after the New England pick of Spiller at 22. Ted Thompson is furiously calling teams in an attempt to trade down. But since trades aren't happening here, Green Bay decides to take a chance on the extremely athletic OT from USC. Brown is a converted TE with great footwork and excellent pass blocking skills. He's a decent run blocker and his athleticism would translate well to Green Bay's zone blocking run game. Brown has a ton going for him but he needs to gain weight in a big way to make it at the next level. At 6'5" he's definitely tall enough, but at 290 pounds he needs to add weight. With most of the elite talent off the board the Packers decide to fill a need.
I hate this pick because I don't think Brown is a 1st round talent. I was hoping for the splash with Spiller because Green Bay is a team that could win now and a guy like Spiller could add enough to get them to where they want to go. Brown may be more of a future pick.....paying dividends 2-3 years down the road. It is a need though for Aaron Rodgers sake and if Brown beefs up, he could be a good one.
Other considerations: Jahvid Best, Jared Odrick
ETA: If Brown shows up at the combine and weighs in at 300+ pounds, then we may have something here. He's been compared to Jason Smith who was taken #2 overall by the Rams in 2009 and if Brown puts on about 15 more pounds without losing his speed, he could move up in the draft.
Also would like to add that they are trying to build their version of Pitt/Balt, and a good impact Safety is just what they need. At least try and find your Polomalu, or Reed even though that is a tall order to fill. Loved the pick Kirby, one of the best so far honestly.Btw, to Kirby on the Mays pick. Doubt the kid will land there but even with the issues at WR, I think the Bengals should take the superior talent. There will be guys to get that can stretch the field in round 2.-QG