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What?I can't see how this is possible. If some one wanted Thomas would they really even need to offer the 1.7 at this point?PPR leagueteam A gave up Thomas, Pierre NOS RBteam B gave up Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.07
What?I can't see how this is possible. If some one wanted Thomas would they really even need to offer the 1.7 at this point?PPR leagueteam A gave up Thomas, Pierre NOS RBteam B gave up Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.07
Yes, and Steve Johnson should be a "sell high" player if anything.Johnson went for the 1.11 and Anthony Armstong in one of my leagues this offseason.Someone just sold Steve Johnson really low in Zealots, right?
Dallas Cowboys gave up:Johnson, Steve BUF WRYear 2011 Draft Pick 5.10Chicago Bears gave up:Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 5.05
I drafted Ingram this year, and turned down Thomas for the 2.01. At best I think he's worth the 2.04/2.05 or so now.What?I can't see how this is possible. If some one wanted Thomas would they really even need to offer the 1.7 at this point?PPR leagueteam A gave up Thomas, Pierre NOS RBteam B gave up Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.07
almost like whoever acquired Thomas paid no attention to the NFL this off seasonWhat?I can't see how this is possible. If some one wanted Thomas would they really even need to offer the 1.7 at this point?PPR leagueteam A gave up Thomas, Pierre NOS RBteam B gave up Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.07
Both awful trades. Johnson is worth more than any rookie WR not named Green or Jones this year.Yes, and Steve Johnson should be a "sell high" player if anything.Johnson went for the 1.11 and Anthony Armstong in one of my leagues this offseason.Someone just sold Steve Johnson really low in Zealots, right?
Dallas Cowboys gave up:Johnson, Steve BUF WRYear 2011 Draft Pick 5.10Chicago Bears gave up:Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 5.05
i am not one of the owners, did not know one of my league mates postedI love when we get both participants in a trade on the same page!PPR leagueteam A gave up Sims-Walker, Mike JAC WR;Williams, Mike TBB WR; Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05team B gave up Manningham, Mario NYG WR; Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.03;Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.08
We have a place for these types of questions -.-Question for you guys. I'm in a standard scoring, non-ppr, all TDs 6pts, 12-team league. The league has been together with the same owners for 11 years but this upcoming season our normal re-draft league is switching to a 2-keeper league (so this isn't quite a dynasty league).
I plan on keeping Jamaal Charles but cannot decide between keeping Peyton Manning or Greg Jennings? If I keep Manning, the next time I pick I will be looking at pairing him with the WR17 (a player in the Maclin/Marshall/Britt range). If I keep Jennings, I will be pairing him with the QB8 (Romo/Ryan/Roethlisberger range). Whom would you keep between Manning and Jennings? and would your answer change if this was a re-draft?
Whatever... are dynasty trade questions that much different?We have a place for these types of questions -.-Question for you guys. I'm in a standard scoring, non-ppr, all TDs 6pts, 12-team league. The league has been together with the same owners for 11 years but this upcoming season our normal re-draft league is switching to a 2-keeper league (so this isn't quite a dynasty league).
I plan on keeping Jamaal Charles but cannot decide between keeping Peyton Manning or Greg Jennings? If I keep Manning, the next time I pick I will be looking at pairing him with the WR17 (a player in the Maclin/Marshall/Britt range). If I keep Jennings, I will be pairing him with the QB8 (Romo/Ryan/Roethlisberger range). Whom would you keep between Manning and Jennings? and would your answer change if this was a re-draft?
There's typically not very many questions asking for help in here. This thread is to mostly gauge value on players, ask why one trade was made, and to bash each other on bad tradesWhatever... are dynasty trade questions that much different?We have a place for these types of questions -.-Question for you guys. I'm in a standard scoring, non-ppr, all TDs 6pts, 12-team league. The league has been together with the same owners for 11 years but this upcoming season our normal re-draft league is switching to a 2-keeper league (so this isn't quite a dynasty league).
I plan on keeping Jamaal Charles but cannot decide between keeping Peyton Manning or Greg Jennings? If I keep Manning, the next time I pick I will be looking at pairing him with the WR17 (a player in the Maclin/Marshall/Britt range). If I keep Jennings, I will be pairing him with the QB8 (Romo/Ryan/Roethlisberger range). Whom would you keep between Manning and Jennings? and would your answer change if this was a re-draft?
Someone should have their Fantasy Football GM card revokedSomeone just sold Steve Johnson really low in Zealots, right?
Dallas Cowboys gave up:Johnson, Steve BUF WRYear 2011 Draft Pick 5.10Chicago Bears gave up:Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 5.05
Congrats to the guy getting the 1.07, I have Thomas on the block in my league we will see if I can fetch anything near that.Surprised someone would give the 1.07 for Pierre. He's been nearly untradeable in all my leagues, even the Ingram owners have shown no interest in acquiring him.PPR leagueteam A gave up Thomas, Pierre NOS RBteam B gave up Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.07
Give me McCoy and Jennings (Wake me up when Stewart actually lives up to the hype as he killed me in 2 dynasty leagues last year)I tend to agree, but I think its actually closer than it may seem. I was Team A in the deal by the way and fully expect to get hammered by public opinion (all hammering welcomed and encouraged). Based on name value, the side getting Stew would seem to be living a dream. But looking at startup value:Lesean McCoy is arguably the #1 player in PPR format with a 2 RB minimum (in this case, up to 4 RB in the starting lineup). He's been taken there in more than one startup I've seen. I personally have him in the top 5, not sure where exactly at this time, but quite possibly at #1. Jon Stewart is being taken anywhere from the early 3rd to late 3rd. In the upcoming two FFPC $750 startup drafts in June/July, I would predict that Stew will be taken around the 4.3 (due to bumping of TEs and the fact that Stew gets a bad rap in the FFPC community) Deangelo is a late 5th early 6th kind of guy right now, with Carolina now presenting a realistic possibility (affecting both Stew's and Deangelo's production in 2011). In the FFPC, its even worse. I couldnt trade him away for the 1.6, 1.7 or 1.8 during the recent rookie draft for this league. I predict he'll go at 6.6. Greg Jennings is being taken in the early to middle 2nd round based on recent startups (which is about right for the FFPC as well). Desean Jackson in the late 2nd to mid 3rd in most startups. I am predicting 3.5 for the FFPC drafts. The 2.3 (Kyle Rudolph) is being taken just behind Dustin Keller and both will probably be taken in the 8th or 9th rounds of the FFPC drafts (minor edge to Keller). Basically, this could look like this in from a startup view: Typical PPR startup draft (assuming 1.5PPR TE): 1.5, 2.3, 9.7 for 3.3, 3.4, 5.12, 9.3, Prime 2012 1stMy prediction for the FFPC startups this year:1.3, 2.2, 9.7for 3.5, 4.3, 6.6, 9.3, Prime 2012 1stStill a landslide? Don't get me wrong, I still like the side getting Stew from a value standpoint (due to the Prime 2012 1st), but I think its closer than a landslide. Personally, with a lot of money on the line for a team that could very well win it all in 2011 (and would now be the favorite to do so), I had to consider the redraft value of the deal as well and in my opinion, the McCoy/Jennings side has that won by a hefty margin. In the end, that carried the day. In order to trade for an impact player such as a CJ3, McCoy, Charles or ADP in this league, this is about the cheapest that one of these players can be had.Give me Team B's haul in a landslideFFPC $1250 PPRTeam A gives Jonathan Stewart, Deangelo Williams, Desean Jackson, 2012 1st (likely top 3), Dustin Keller (1.5 PPR for TE, start 1-3 TE)Team B gives Lesean McCoy and Greg Jennings, 2.03 rookie (Kyle Rudolph), 7.06 rookie and 2012 7th rounder (16 player keeper / 20 man in-season rosters, so 7th rounders may have "some" value due to vets adding extra value)
You must not have noticed I already posted your trade earlier in the thread though without the write up that followed.Thanks for stealing Young from me.Gonna get beat up on this one I'm sure.12 team PPR FFPC Dynasty Traded Peyton Hillis RB, CLE Montario Hardesty RB, CLE Leonard Hankerson WR, WAS Kendall Hunter RB, SFO Rnd 5, Pick 62012 Draft, Rnd 3 (Another teams) FORDarren McFadden RB, OAK David Gettis WR, CAR Keiland Williams RB, WAS Rnd 3, Pick 9Rnd 4, Pick 4I then traded 3.09 and Keiland Williams for 3.07 to draft Titus YoungAnd traded 4.04 and Mohamed Massaquoi for 3.05 to draft Jacquizz RodgersSo the trade would now look likeTraded Peyton Hillis RB, CLE Montario Hardesty RB, CLE Leonard Hankerson WR, WAS Kendall Hunter RB, SFO Mohamed Massaquoi WR, CLERnd 5, Pick 62012 Draft, Rnd 3 (Another teams) FORDarren McFadden RB, OAK David Gettis WR, CAR Jacquizz Rodgers RB, ATLTitus Young WR, DET
Yep.I own Stevie in all my Zealots classic leagues, and would simply reply to this offer with a polite "No thanks"Someone just sold Steve Johnson really low in Zealots, right?
Dallas Cowboys gave up:Johnson, Steve BUF WRYear 2011 Draft Pick 5.10Chicago Bears gave up:Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.06Year 2011 Draft Pick 5.05
Britt and Jacoby by a country mile.12-team PPRTeam A: SSmith (NYG), MSWTeam B: Britt, JFord
Someone must really hate Britt because Wow an injured Smith who may never be right again and a MSW who is a FA and played like garbage last year for yes a knucklehead but aren't most of the stud WR's that way ? Plus Ford as a throw in.This one is a TKO in the 1st round.12-team PPRTeam A: SSmith (NYG), MSWTeam B: Britt, JFord
Closer than it first appears but I'd rather have Rodgers/Fitz every day of the week and twice on Sunday.Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
16 team .5 PPR for RB, 1 PPR for WR with full IDP and heavy defensive scoringTeam A gave 2011 pick 1.08, 2012 1st round pickTeam B gave Chris Johnson RB Team A lost the championship game in 2010. Trade made with 1.08 on the clock after first 7 picks were: Green, Ingram, Newton, Jones, Daniel Thomas, Leshoure, Ryan Williams.
Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
Awful.16 team .5 PPR for RB, 1 PPR for WR with full IDP and heavy defensive scoringTeam A gave 2011 pick 1.08, 2012 1st round pickTeam B gave Chris Johnson RB Team A lost the championship game in 2010. Trade made with 1.08 on the clock after first 7 picks were: Green, Ingram, Newton, Jones, Daniel Thomas, Leshoure, Ryan Williams.
I own Fitz in one of my 4 dynasty leagues. I would jump at the chance to get Bradshaw and a WR like Steve Johnson for him. I offered him all around my league last season right up until last month and couldnt get close to that fro him.I think he could put up 1200/10 if they bring in a good QB, but i think his days of 1400/12 are over. I dont think Kolb is Warner, they still dont have a #2 WR near as good as Boldin to take away some coverage. Its just a completely different team than it was a couple/few years ago.I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
You would jump at the chance to trade him for two players with one top season each? Players who each carry significant risk. I get that Fitz probably won't return to the statistical numbers he put up with Warner, but he just put up 90/1137/6 with likely the worst quarterbacking in the league. If he gets a Kolb/McNabb/Orton etc., I see no reason he isn't back in the neighborhood of 100+ catches/1300+ yards and 10+ TD's.I own Fitz in one of my 4 dynasty leagues. I would jump at the chance to get Bradshaw and a WR like Steve Johnson for him. I offered him all around my league last season right up until last month and couldnt get close to that fro him.I think he could put up 1200/10 if they bring in a good QB, but i think his days of 1400/12 are over. I dont think Kolb is Warner, they still dont have a #2 WR near as good as Boldin to take away some coverage. Its just a completely different team than it was a couple/few years ago.I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
But Crabtree isn't like Steve Johnson.I own Fitz in one of my 4 dynasty leagues. I would jump at the chance to get Bradshaw and a WR like Steve Johnson for him. I offered him all around my league last season right up until last month and couldnt get close to that fro him.I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
I think it's a pretty fair deal as well. I love Fitz, but we have no idea what the QB situation is going to be like in Arizona. Even if Kolb is a "lock" to end up there, he's not a lock to be great (or even very good). If they don't fix their QB situation and SF does, the difference between Fitz and Crabtree could be minimal in a couple of years. I do like Rodgers more than Rivers, but I don't think the difference is huge- Rivers is a stud as well.Team A had no #2 RB (Ronnie Brown), while Bradshaw was the #3 RB for team B (start 2). I think it made sense for both, although it helps team B more IMO.'Go deep said:I own Fitz in one of my 4 dynasty leagues. I would jump at the chance to get Bradshaw and a WR like Steve Johnson for him. I offered him all around my league last season right up until last month and couldnt get close to that fro him.I think he could put up 1200/10 if they bring in a good QB, but i think his days of 1400/12 are over. I dont think Kolb is Warner, they still dont have a #2 WR near as good as Boldin to take away some coverage. Its just a completely different team than it was a couple/few years ago.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.'Go deep said:Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.'humpback said:Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
I got Mendenhall in a similar deal my 1.09 + my 2012 1st round pick and I was happy...I couldn't even imagine getting CJ in that type deal that be insane though I tried for Ray Rice 1st and failed.Why would someone sell CJ so low ? Before he blew up with L-White still sucking away his TD's someone in my league fetched 2 1st round picks and a Tony Romo before he was the superstar he is now so I can't understand his value going down.'Andy Dufresne said:Awful.'JAK Straw said:16 team .5 PPR for RB, 1 PPR for WR with full IDP and heavy defensive scoringTeam A gave 2011 pick 1.08, 2012 1st round pickTeam B gave Chris Johnson RB Team A lost the championship game in 2010. Trade made with 1.08 on the clock after first 7 picks were: Green, Ingram, Newton, Jones, Daniel Thomas, Leshoure, Ryan Williams.
But what if Arizona fixes their QB situation and San Fran doesn't? Or what if they both do? Fitzgerald is light years ahead of Crabtree in terms of talent.I think it's a pretty fair deal as well. I love Fitz, but we have no idea what the QB situation is going to be like in Arizona. Even if Kolb is a "lock" to end up there, he's not a lock to be great (or even very good). If they don't fix their QB situation and SF does, the difference between Fitz and Crabtree could be minimal in a couple of years. I do like Rodgers more than Rivers, but I don't think the difference is huge- Rivers is a stud as well.
Team A had no #2 RB (Ronnie Brown), while Bradshaw was the #3 RB for team B (start 2). I think it made sense for both, although it helps team B more IMO.
Give me Calvin12 team ppr. All tds 6 pts.Start 1qb. 2rb. 2wr. 1te. 1k. 1d/stTeam a offered Deangelo Williams and TB Mike Williams toTeam b for Calvin JohnsonTeam b countered with Calvin Johnson forKnowshon Moreno and TB Mike WilliamsTeam a accepted the counter offer.
I would rather have Bradshaw than Greg Little.Just done this deal:Gave : A BradshawGot : 1.05, 2012 3rd and 6th rounderAlready own 1.04, so I get Williams and Little
Alot of people have Crabtree ranked as high or higher.'Andy Dufresne said:But Crabtree isn't like Steve Johnson.'Go deep said:I own Fitz in one of my 4 dynasty leagues. I would jump at the chance to get Bradshaw and a WR like Steve Johnson for him. I offered him all around my league last season right up until last month and couldnt get close to that fro him.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.'Go deep said:Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.'humpback said:Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
I know Fitz had terrible QB's last year, but he did set a career high in targets, so things wernt all bad. People are assuming a decent/good QB is all Fitz is missing, but im not so sure. It will certainly help, but its not the only thing different from when Fitz was putting up 1400 yard seasons. Teams are still going to be focusing their attention on him without a good WR on the other side or a good running game. Also, i dont value players based on how many good season they have had, but on how many I think they are going to have. The fact that Bradshaw and Stevie have only had one good season doesnt mean much to me...other than they are just getting started.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:You would jump at the chance to trade him for two players with one top season each? Players who each carry significant risk. I get that Fitz probably won't return to the statistical numbers he put up with Warner, but he just put up 90/1137/6 with likely the worst quarterbacking in the league. If he gets a Kolb/McNabb/Orton etc., I see no reason he isn't back in the neighborhood of 100+ catches/1300+ yards and 10+ TD's.'Go deep said:I own Fitz in one of my 4 dynasty leagues. I would jump at the chance to get Bradshaw and a WR like Steve Johnson for him. I offered him all around my league last season right up until last month and couldnt get close to that fro him.I think he could put up 1200/10 if they bring in a good QB, but i think his days of 1400/12 are over. I dont think Kolb is Warner, they still dont have a #2 WR near as good as Boldin to take away some coverage. Its just a completely different team than it was a couple/few years ago.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.'Go deep said:Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.'humpback said:Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
I think that if they do get a QB upgrade then there might be more hype and up the compensation in a Fitz trade. It might be a case of selling a bit low right now with a chance at getting a little more later or, at worse, the same thing.I know Fitz had terrible QB's last year, but he did set a career high in targets, so things wernt all bad. People are assuming a decent/good QB is all Fitz is missing, but im not so sure. It will certainly help, but its not the only thing different from when Fitz was putting up 1400 yard seasons. Teams are still going to be focusing their attention on him without a good WR on the other side or a good running game. Also, i dont value players based on how many good season they have had, but on how many I think they are going to have. The fact that Bradshaw and Stevie have only had one good season doesnt mean much to me...other than they are just getting started.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:You would jump at the chance to trade him for two players with one top season each? Players who each carry significant risk. I get that Fitz probably won't return to the statistical numbers he put up with Warner, but he just put up 90/1137/6 with likely the worst quarterbacking in the league. If he gets a Kolb/McNabb/Orton etc., I see no reason he isn't back in the neighborhood of 100+ catches/1300+ yards and 10+ TD's.'Go deep said:I own Fitz in one of my 4 dynasty leagues. I would jump at the chance to get Bradshaw and a WR like Steve Johnson for him. I offered him all around my league last season right up until last month and couldnt get close to that fro him.I think he could put up 1200/10 if they bring in a good QB, but i think his days of 1400/12 are over. I dont think Kolb is Warner, they still dont have a #2 WR near as good as Boldin to take away some coverage. Its just a completely different team than it was a couple/few years ago.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:I will take Rodgers/Fitz. One "down" year for Fitz and people are bumping his value down way too much.'Go deep said:Tie, but im not nearly as high on Crabtree as others.'humpback said:Non-pprTeam A: Rodgers, FitzgeraldTeam B: Rivers, Crabtree, Bradshaw
SF has already made moves to improve their QB situation- they have an entirely new coaching staff (including QB "guru" Harbaugh) and traded up to get a QB in the draft. Arizona has done nothing as of today. They most likely will do something there, but we'll have to see what happens.Fitzgerald is certainly more talented than Crabtree, but I don't think he's light years ahead. I'd still take Fitz over Crabtree easily, I'm just saying the difference may only end up being a couple of points per game. Crabtree only has a season and a half under his belt, he should get better even without better QB play (which I expect them to get as well).But what if Arizona fixes their QB situation and San Fran doesn't? Or what if they both do? Fitzgerald is light years ahead of Crabtree in terms of talent.I think it's a pretty fair deal as well. I love Fitz, but we have no idea what the QB situation is going to be like in Arizona. Even if Kolb is a "lock" to end up there, he's not a lock to be great (or even very good). If they don't fix their QB situation and SF does, the difference between Fitz and Crabtree could be minimal in a couple of years. I do like Rodgers more than Rivers, but I don't think the difference is huge- Rivers is a stud as well.
Team A had no #2 RB (Ronnie Brown), while Bradshaw was the #3 RB for team B (start 2). I think it made sense for both, although it helps team B more IMO.
It's all going to depend on who they end up with. Everyone is assuming Arizona is going to get a QB, we all hear the Kolb rumors, so the possibility of that happening is going to be factored into his trade value. From what I'm seeing, he's being valued somewhere between his stud seasons with Warner and his mediocre one with garbage at QB last year, which makes sense. I don't think anyone is expecting only 1100 and 6 for the next 5 years.I think that if they do get a QB upgrade then there might be more hype and up the compensation in a Fitz trade. It might be a case of selling a bit low right now with a chance at getting a little more later or, at worse, the same thing.
I'd rather have VJax than head case Marshall, and I'd rather have Braylon than Clayton by a lot. To me this one is an easy win for team A.Team A gives Brandon Marshall, Mark Clayton Team B gives Vincent Jackson, Braylon Edwards 14 team PPR IDP league... Who won the trade??
I dont like Marshall, but he is a PPR beast. I can see prefering Edwards to Clayton, but i wouldnt rather have Edwards by a lot over a 2nd string kicker.I'd rather have VJax than head case Marshall, and I'd rather have Braylon than Clayton by a lot. To me this one is an easy win for team A.Team A gives Brandon Marshall, Mark Clayton
Team B gives Vincent Jackson, Braylon Edwards
14 team PPR IDP league... Who won the trade??
People discount Edwards way too much. He was 904 and 7 last year, good for WR21. Since his rookie year he's had 884-1289-873-680-904 yards, and the 680 was because he changed teams midseason. He's never had a top QB throwing to him. Your 2nd string kicker hyperbole is nonsense.Oh yeah, and Clayton's BEST season was 935 and 5, and that was 5 seasons ago. He hasn't topped 695 since.I dont like Marshall, but he is a PPR beast. I can see prefering Edwards to Clayton, but i wouldnt rather have Edwards by a lot over a 2nd string kicker.I'd rather have VJax than head case Marshall, and I'd rather have Braylon than Clayton by a lot. To me this one is an easy win for team A.Team A gives Brandon Marshall, Mark Clayton
Team B gives Vincent Jackson, Braylon Edwards
14 team PPR IDP league... Who won the trade??
What is it with this word "hyperbole", do you guys talk like this in real life? Relax man, i was just being a little sarcastic. Point being is a guy who is averaging 800 yards and 5 TD's over the last 3 seasons isnt really favored by a lot over another player considering his numbers are fairly easy to replace. I guess if he ended up in SD i could see getting a little excited about him, but otherwise, he is very meh.People discount Edwards way too much. He was 904 and 7 last year, good for WR21. Since his rookie year he's had 884-1289-873-680-904 yards, and the 680 was because he changed teams midseason. He's never had a top QB throwing to him. Your 2nd string kicker hyperbole is nonsense.Oh yeah, and Clayton's BEST season was 935 and 5, and that was 5 seasons ago. He hasn't topped 695 since.I dont like Marshall, but he is a PPR beast. I can see prefering Edwards to Clayton, but i wouldnt rather have Edwards by a lot over a 2nd string kicker.I'd rather have VJax than head case Marshall, and I'd rather have Braylon than Clayton by a lot. To me this one is an easy win for team A.Team A gives Brandon Marshall, Mark Clayton
Team B gives Vincent Jackson, Braylon Edwards
14 team PPR IDP league... Who won the trade??
As for Marshall, I'd take VJax all day every day. Marshall will soon enough wear out his welcome in MIA and I don't expect his run of great target totals to last. Gut feeling on that one. Jackson is a year older but IMO has so much more staying power. And unlike Marshall, he scores TDs and gains yards rather than collecting 86 catches for less than 12 yards per (and Marshall's 3 TDs last season doesn't cut it either).
Hyperbole is when you exaggerate to make a point, which is what you were doing, though above you call it being 'sarcastic.' Yes, I use the word. And I'm quite relaxed thanks. Disagreeing with you has nothing to do with being relaxed or not. If you want to simply average the last 3 seasons for Edwards feel free, but that's not very useful IMO. As I said in my post, the 680 yard season was due to changing teams mid year. Ignore that fact if you wish, but it matters. To me he's a 900 yard, 6-8 TD guy with run of the mill QBs, and if he lands in a spot with a good QB he'll do much better. WR21 has value; if you don't think so I really have no response except to have you look at year end stats again for the last few seasons and remember that 900/7 receivers don't grow on trees. I guess some people just don't like the guy and that's fine. And I'll still be relaxed.What is it with this word "hyperbole", do you guys talk like this in real life? Relax man, i was just being a little sarcastic. Point being is a guy who is averaging 800 yards and 5 TD's over the last 3 seasons isnt really favored by a lot over another player considering his numbers are fairly easy to replace. I guess if he ended up in SD i could see getting a little excited about him, but otherwise, he is very meh.
So would you say "i would take VJax all day, every day" is hyperbole?Hyperbole is when you exaggerate to make a point, which is what you were doing, though above you call it being 'sarcastic.' Yes, I use the word. And I'm quite relaxed thanks. Disagreeing with you has nothing to do with being relaxed or not. If you want to simply average the last 3 seasons for Edwards feel free, but that's not very useful IMO. As I said in my post, the 680 yard season was due to changing teams mid year. Ignore that fact if you wish, but it matters. To me he's a 900 yard, 6-8 TD guy with run of the mill QBs, and if he lands in a spot with a good QB he'll do much better. WR21 has value; if you don't think so I really have no response. I guess some people just don't like the guy and that's fine. And I'll still be relaxed.What is it with this word "hyperbole", do you guys talk like this in real life? Relax man, i was just being a little sarcastic. Point being is a guy who is averaging 800 yards and 5 TD's over the last 3 seasons isnt really favored by a lot over another player considering his numbers are fairly easy to replace. I guess if he ended up in SD i could see getting a little excited about him, but otherwise, he is very meh.
Nah, don't be sorry. You post good posts. Keep it up man, this place needs you and I appreciate you!Yeah, I like Edwards more than a lot of posters I see here, not just you.So would you say "i would take VJax all day, every day" is hyperbole?Hyperbole is when you exaggerate to make a point, which is what you were doing, though above you call it being 'sarcastic.' Yes, I use the word. And I'm quite relaxed thanks. Disagreeing with you has nothing to do with being relaxed or not. If you want to simply average the last 3 seasons for Edwards feel free, but that's not very useful IMO. As I said in my post, the 680 yard season was due to changing teams mid year. Ignore that fact if you wish, but it matters. To me he's a 900 yard, 6-8 TD guy with run of the mill QBs, and if he lands in a spot with a good QB he'll do much better. WR21 has value; if you don't think so I really have no response. I guess some people just don't like the guy and that's fine. And I'll still be relaxed.What is it with this word "hyperbole", do you guys talk like this in real life? Relax man, i was just being a little sarcastic. Point being is a guy who is averaging 800 yards and 5 TD's over the last 3 seasons isnt really favored by a lot over another player considering his numbers are fairly easy to replace. I guess if he ended up in SD i could see getting a little excited about him, but otherwise, he is very meh.
Also, i get it, you like Edwards, just throwing my opinion out there, although im sorry i did it now.