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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (2 Viewers)
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squistion
Footballguy
Normally it isn't necessary but people here might believe that you actually have some objectivity in your view of players - which while generally true, is not always the case, particularly where the hate (or love) of an individual player is long standing and not always rational.
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Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
If a real Qb lands in jville Blackmon with be worth so much more then Murray. I don't chase 3 down backs when they can't finish a year.
Murray is a much much less talented McFadden.
Murray is a much much less talented McFadden.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Seems like a steal for Team B.
Trades like this make me question why I just don't send nonsensical trades to every owner in all my leagues, in the hope that one of them is completely wasted or accidentally clicks accept.
jeter23
Footballguy
I'm running a series of offseason mocks drafts that have just started this weekend. Most are still in the first couple of rounds. Only one is 4 rounds deep so far. Murray went 4.02 and Blackmon is still available entering the 5th round. I actually would prefer Blackmon, but I think Murray's ADP will be higher.I highly duobt that. Dynasty owners are always chasing starting 3-down RB's. By summer time Murray hype will be in full effect and Blackmon's QB situation and the emergence of Shorts will both possibly hurt his value. I think you'll see Murray's ADP consistently higher than Blackmon's all offseason.I prefer Blackmon to Murray by a decent margin. And suspect this summer startups will reflect that as well.As a Blackmon owner I'd never move him for Murray.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Pretty inaccurate comparison.
JackReacher
Footballguy
Depends where he goes. Would bump him up if he lands in a good spot like ATL
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Team B should be arrested and beaten with a cane.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
Lopsided in Team A's favor for me.
Papa John's
Footballguy
I really like Team A's side in this one. Solid players with upside, and a bunch of high picks vs. Question marks. I know guys will say Cam is the best player in the deal, but I'm not so sure. I'll take the players and upside for Team A in a dynasty league.
Papa John's
Footballguy
Team A is the one I'd rather have ... This one isn't even close IMHO
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doowain
Footballguy
The team getting Moreno/Maclin?
cstu
Footballguy
Even if you call Maclin for Blackmon a wash, that's Kaep/Quick for Moreno.
eaglesfan7
Footballguy
Id much rather have kaep and blackmon than maclin and moreno. Sell moreno before he gets hurt again.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Maclin has proven to be overrated. I'd take Kaepernick, Blackmon, and Quick.
What a great/bold trade by both sides. I would take Team B's side, but I dont feel great about it and changed my mind 3 times before posting
doowain
Footballguy
I'm the Kaep/Blackmon/Quick side. I certainly like my side less now.
matttyl
Footballguy
I understand the point, but that's a poor comparison IMO (at least at this time). Ben is 31 this offseason, and has had 1 full season in his 9 year NFL career. Dalton is 5.5 years younger, much less wear and tear, has had zero injury issues, and has a top 2 dynasty WR with him for the foreseeable future (Ben never had a WR of that caliber). Dalton's had 52 TDs his first two years to Ben's 34 his first two. Maybe you should ask what you could have gotten for Ben when he was 25 (if my math is right that would have been after the 2007 season) when he had 34 TDs, had back to back seasons of 15 games (less perceived injury risk) and was selected to the pro bowl, and already had 1 Super Bowl trophy under his belt. Possibly a better comparison would be what you could have gotten for Matt Ryan after his 2010 season (age 25, but 3 years in league - 3,700 yards with 28 TDs to 9 picks and the Falcons had just drafted Julio Jones). That might be a stretch, but I think a 2010 Ryan is a better comparison to a 2012 Dalton's 2012 dynasty value than a 2012 Big Ben is.There's a reason he's picking 1.04.Just got a 2014 1st for him from the owner of this year's 1.04 pick. Happy with it.Ask any longtime Roethlisberger owner what you can get for guys like that.
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Team B by a lot.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Team A gets: McGahee, Ronnie Hillman, Greg Olsen, 1.12
Team B gets: 1.02
Team A gets: McGahee, Ronnie Hillman, Greg Olsen, 1.12
Team B gets: 1.02
Even though no building block studs in this draft, give me 1.2 over a bunch of fluff all day.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Depending on scoring format I would call Olsen "fluff." For reference, in the FFPC format (ppr TE 1.5) he finished #7. In that format, getting a top 10 producer and the potential of Hillman makes this a pretty even trade IMO.
cstu
Footballguy
Someone was really sold the "this draft sucks" line. I still like Hillman long term if he can learn to block better and hold onto the ball, but that's a lot of meh for potential stud.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/Flex PPR
I give:
Marshawn Lynch
Michael Crabtree
I receive:
Darren McFadden
Percy Harvin
Jordy Nelson
2014 2nd (Probably late)
Didn't even receive and email, clicked on one of my tabs, it reloaded and saw this offer. My team is pretty strong at WR, somewhat weak at RB, but plenty of ammo to get a RB if needed.
I give:
Marshawn Lynch
Michael Crabtree
I receive:
Darren McFadden
Percy Harvin
Jordy Nelson
2014 2nd (Probably late)
Didn't even receive and email, clicked on one of my tabs, it reloaded and saw this offer. My team is pretty strong at WR, somewhat weak at RB, but plenty of ammo to get a RB if needed.
cstu
Footballguy
I couldn't accept fast enough.12 Team QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/Flex PPRI give:Marshawn LynchMichael CrabtreeI receivearren McFaddenPercy HarvinJordy Nelson2014 2nd (Probably late)Didn't even receive and email, clicked on one of my tabs, it reloaded and saw this offer. My team is pretty strong at WR, somewhat weak at RB, but plenty of ammo to get a RB if needed.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Just made a big one. 12 teams, PPR, huge rosters. Offense only.
Gave:
Foster
Witten
Turner
Got:
Gronk
Mathews
Tough to downgrade from Foster to Mathews when I just won the championship, but the chance to acquire Gronk made me take the risk. I add him to a core of Cam, Trent, and Calvin and I see a bunch of young, nearly untouchable players.
My lineup is now:
Cam
Trent, Murray, Mathews
Calvin, Welker, Decker
Gronk
Hurts in the short term since Witten is also top-5, but I couldn't pass up Gronk.
Gave:
Foster
Witten
Turner
Got:
Gronk
Mathews
Tough to downgrade from Foster to Mathews when I just won the championship, but the chance to acquire Gronk made me take the risk. I add him to a core of Cam, Trent, and Calvin and I see a bunch of young, nearly untouchable players.
My lineup is now:
Cam
Trent, Murray, Mathews
Calvin, Welker, Decker
Gronk
Hurts in the short term since Witten is also top-5, but I couldn't pass up Gronk.
OrangeCurtain
Footballguy
12 team PPR dynasty, start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex
Gave up
Miles Austin
2014 2nd
Got
Jon Baldwin
2014 1st
Basically I've had an ### full of Austin's hammy, and Dez looks like he's coming on. Hoping new coach in KC can knock some sense into Baldwin in his 3rd year, Bowe leaving wouldn't suck either. Don't like this year's draft but like the way 2014 is shaping up.
Rest of team post trade
Ryan, Fitzpatrick
Ingram, Tate, Mendy, MJD, Martin, Wilson, Bradshaw
Baldwin, Stevie Johnson, Julio, Sanu, Quick, Douglas, Gettis, McCluster
Olsen, Rudolph
Still trying to trade away some RB talent to upgrade WR, but haven't found a match yet.
Gave up
Miles Austin
2014 2nd
Got
Jon Baldwin
2014 1st
Basically I've had an ### full of Austin's hammy, and Dez looks like he's coming on. Hoping new coach in KC can knock some sense into Baldwin in his 3rd year, Bowe leaving wouldn't suck either. Don't like this year's draft but like the way 2014 is shaping up.
Rest of team post trade
Ryan, Fitzpatrick
Ingram, Tate, Mendy, MJD, Martin, Wilson, Bradshaw
Baldwin, Stevie Johnson, Julio, Sanu, Quick, Douglas, Gettis, McCluster
Olsen, Rudolph
Still trying to trade away some RB talent to upgrade WR, but haven't found a match yet.
You are going to need a quarterback too
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
There's a comma between Ryan and Fitzpatrick
Two recent trades in a 14 team dynasty w/devysTeam A gets: Ryan Mathews, 1.2 devy(Ka'Deem Carey or TJ Yeldon)Team B gets: Andy Dalton, Ben Tate, Josh Gordon, Rod StreaterTeam A gets: Travis Benjamin, 1.6 rookie pick, 2.1 rookie pick, 1.1 devy(Todd Gurley)Team C gets: Bilal Powell, 1.4 rookie pick, 1.5 rookie pick
Spike
Footballguy
Zealots league.I traded Cam Newton, Rod Streater, the 2.04 and 3.08 rookie picks this year for Justin Blackmon, Michael Crabtree and Miles Burris (LB, Oak).This leaves me with Luck, Wilson, Cousins, Flynn and Foles at QB; I added Blackmon and Crabtree to AJ Green, Andre Johnson, Alshon Jeffrey and a lot of mediocrity other than that at WR; Burris, I see taking a much bigger role at MLB for Oakland.I know Newton is the best player in the trade and that many go by the "if you get the best player in a trade, you've made out the best" but I thought I have plenty else at QB (most notably, Luck) and it's a start 1 QB league.To further buttress my team, I have the 1.02 and 1.04 picks in this year's rookie draft.Earlier in the offseason I traded Big Ben for what should be a very high 2014 1st round pick.So did I screw the pooch or not?
It shows up on my computer as a comma before Ryan
One More Rep
Footballguy
Probably could have gotten more for Cam but I do not think its a bad deal at all
Agreed. I thought Cam would have carried more weight though. People crying out to get hold of him.
DevilDog919
Footballguy
Sent: Arian FosterReceived: RGIIIHad only Vick at QB. Team was probably not contending next season even with Foster, so might as well get value for him while I could.
doowain
Footballguy
Love it.
Are folks even slightly concerned RG3 might not be the same after the surgery, which is pretty extensive? I know everyone comes back from torn ACLs these days, but for a running QB seems a bit more risky IMO
redaddy25
Footballguy
10 Team PPR - Deep League Start 2QB/3RB/3WREli ManningBeanie WellsRyan Williams forMatt SchaubHakeem NicksShonn Greene2013 2.4Not really sure what to think, Nicks just can't stay healthy and with a weak draft class and top QB's at a premium I would take the Eli side of the deal.
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