With the depth at WR in this draft, wouldn't the Lions be better served by going BPA LB or CB there?I can't believe I'm saying it, but if a top OL isn't there at #10, I could see Evans playing Alshon Jeffery in Detroit.
BPA is a good idea. I doubt that would be a CB. I don't think any CBs are top 10 in this class.With the depth at WR in this draft, wouldn't the Lions be better served by going BPA LB or CB there?I can't believe I'm saying it, but if a top OL isn't there at #10, I could see Evans playing Alshon Jeffery in Detroit.
I am not opposed to any ideas.. but I like Evans a lot, and like Andy said they need another WR in a bad way.BPA is a good idea. I doubt that would be a CB. I don't think any CBs are top 10 in this class.With the depth at WR in this draft, wouldn't the Lions be better served by going BPA LB or CB there?I can't believe I'm saying it, but if a top OL isn't there at #10, I could see Evans playing Alshon Jeffery in Detroit.
I don't like Evans very much and think he's a reach at 10. I'd prefer both Lee and Strong (if he declares) to Evans. They need a WR and need one badly. But a guy like J. Landry is probably available in round 2 and that's the route I'd go if a top notch player like Mack is there at 10.I am not opposed to any ideas.. but I like Evans a lot, and like Andy said they need another WR in a bad way.BPA is a good idea. I doubt that would be a CB. I don't think any CBs are top 10 in this class.With the depth at WR in this draft, wouldn't the Lions be better served by going BPA LB or CB there?I can't believe I'm saying it, but if a top OL isn't there at #10, I could see Evans playing Alshon Jeffery in Detroit.
Honestly haven't caught much of him.What about K. Mack falling to the Lions? There is a good chance of that IMO.
I never said it was their top priority. I said pretty clearly it was simply the BPA.Why would Cleveland's top priority be another pass rusher?
I like Bortles as a prospect and have actually watched a lot of UCF games this year. He is very good at delivering the ball under pressure and moving the pocket. He is also helped by a relatively strong supporting cast. Big Ben is a popular comparison, he also reminds me a lot of fellow UCF player Dante Culpepper.Really? Bortles certainly pases the eye ball test. Great size, great feet, great mobility, above average arm and good accuracy. What's not to like?
CLE is going O here.4. CLEV - A. Barr DE/OLB, UCLA - this is where it gets interesting for me. Everyone expects CLEV to take a QB but I'm not sold. I think they could easily go BPA and in that case the guy is Barr IMO. CLEV has something in Hoyer and can look to a vet as added insurance at QB.
Seems perfect for Cleveland.I like Bortles as a prospect and have actually watched a lot of UCF games this year. He is very good at delivering the ball under pressure and moving the pocket. He is also helped by a relatively strong supporting cast. Big Ben is a popular comparison, he also reminds me a lot of fellow UCF player Dante Culpepper.Really? Bortles certainly pases the eye ball test. Great size, great feet, great mobility, above average arm and good accuracy. What's not to like?
From a dynasty perspective, he is a top guy.
I do question his accuracy and decision making. In games against top competition (USC, Baylor, and Louisville) he has looked inconsistent.
My comment had more to do with how rare it is for a QB to come out of nowhere to be a top pick like he has. Johnny Football and Bridgewater seem ready to step in and be starters, if a team is picking for a new starter it should be those guys. Bortles? I'd like to see him sit and learn the game a year.
This guy was getting smoked last night. Probably dropped him out of top 10.7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
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Bucs get enforcer-type of mauling O-Lineman.
Owner Bob McNair told reporters Friday that the Texans are open to dealing the No. 1 overall pick.
Of course they are; this is the yearly refrain for every team drafting in the top ten. They want to trade out to add draft picks. "Maybe we'll trade down and still get a quarterback that can do the job and get an outstanding defensive player," McNair said. McNair, of course, doesn't make draft-room decisions. We fully expect the quarterback-needy Texans to stand pat and select Teddy Bridgewater.
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IMO he shouldnt....my favorite player in the draft and the WR the Rams are missing....put this go-to guy there and their crop of number 2s and 3s suddenly look pretty dangerous. They should jump on this guy.....Watkins may not make it past Stl. At #2 imo.
I'm not saying they should pass, but that is a whole lot of early picks thrown at the WR position for St. Louis the last few years if they choose Watkins.Houston turmOiler said:IMO he shouldnt....my favorite player in the draft and the WR the Rams are missing....put this go-to guy there and their crop of number 2s and 3s suddenly look pretty dangerous. They should jump on this guy.....Quez said:Watkins may not make it past Stl. At #2 imo.
He would be incredible on that turf.Quez said:Watkins may not make it past Stl. At #2 imo.
I cant see STL keep burning picks on WRs, Quick, Austin, Bailey, Givens all in the last couple seasons, plus they have Cook TEUntil last night's game, I had a hard time seeing Watkins as a true #1 WR in the NFL. Still don't see him in the same tier as Dez, AJ, or Calvin, but he showed us all that he can dominate against good college competition. He still seems a little bit small, but he's not too far from Crabtree's size. If he also has Crabtree's work ethic, he'll be comparable IMO.
Fits a need for St. Louis, but if they can trade down to a QB needy team or a team targeting Clowney, they should do so. (same can be said about most teams though)
Tiny?I'm not saying they won't be productive or good options at the next level... but why are people leaning to Watkins and Lee over Evans?
Watkins looked tiny standing on a college field last night. Wouldn't the NFL be looking for the physical guy with size ala Calvin, AJ, Gordon, Demarius, Dez, Alshon, Graham, etc as a top pick?
Is a 6 foot WR going to be a game breaker (what I would expect from a top 10 pick) in the NFL these days?
Do you usually pick a single word out of a post in order to completely circumvent the point and question put forth?Tiny?I'm not saying they won't be productive or good options at the next level... but why are people leaning to Watkins and Lee over Evans?
Watkins looked tiny standing on a college field last night. Wouldn't the NFL be looking for the physical guy with size ala Calvin, AJ, Gordon, Demarius, Dez, Alshon, Graham, etc as a top pick?
Is a 6 foot WR going to be a game breaker (what I would expect from a top 10 pick) in the NFL these days?
He's listed as 9lbs lighter and the same height as Crabtree. Injury side, Mike has done fine.Is a 6 foot WR going to be a game breaker (what I would expect from a top 10 pick) in the NFL these days?
In the right system yes. QB will make a difference. Marvin Harrison for instance. Yeah he has big numbers attributed to Manning but before Manning arrived, he showed he was damn good. Once Manning arrived, of course, he rocketed.I'm not saying they won't be productive or good options at the next level... but why are people leaning to Watkins and Lee over Evans?
Watkins looked tiny standing on a college field last night. Wouldn't the NFL be looking for the physical guy with size ala Calvin, AJ, Gordon, Demarius, Dez, Alshon, Graham, etc as a top pick?
Is a 6 foot WR going to be a game breaker (what I would expect from a top 10 pick) in the NFL these days?
Yeah. They need QB and OLI cant see STL keep burning picks on WRs, Quick, Austin, Bailey, Givens all in the last couple seasons, plus they have Cook TEUntil last night's game, I had a hard time seeing Watkins as a true #1 WR in the NFL. Still don't see him in the same tier as Dez, AJ, or Calvin, but he showed us all that he can dominate against good college competition. He still seems a little bit small, but he's not too far from Crabtree's size. If he also has Crabtree's work ethic, he'll be comparable IMO.
Fits a need for St. Louis, but if they can trade down to a QB needy team or a team targeting Clowney, they should do so. (same can be said about most teams though)
Could be interesting down the line to review the QBs the Rams passed on believing Bradford was their guy.St Louis could take Hundley if he declares. I think he's better than Bridgewater.
Agreed. His size is fine.Watkins is not tiny. I don't think he looks tiny on the field, either. He should measure around 6'1". That's not prototypical size, buts it's big enough given his athletic ability.
You know. Maybe. Bradford actually was having a decent season prior to the ACL.Could be interesting down the line to review the QBs the Rams passed on believing Bradford was their guy.St Louis could take Hundley if he declares. I think he's better than Bridgewater.
Did you see what Blackmon was doing prior to his suspension?I'm not saying they won't be productive or good options at the next level... but why are people leaning to Watkins and Lee over Evans?
Watkins looked tiny standing on a college field last night. Wouldn't the NFL be looking for the physical guy with size ala Calvin, AJ, Gordon, Demarius, Dez, Alshon, Graham, etc as a top pick?
Is a 6 foot WR going to be a game breaker (what I would expect from a top 10 pick) in the NFL these days?
I am hoping one of these guys falls to the Bucs. Atl really needs OL & DE so they could take Mack, Barr, or an OT.Bridgewater
Clowney
JFF
Bortles
Matthews
Watkins
Trade down to a QB needy team? They ARE a QB needy team!Fits a need for St. Louis, but if they can trade down to a QB needy team or a team targeting Clowney, they should do so. (same can be said about most teams though)
They haven't figured that out yet, though.Trade down to a QB needy team? They ARE a QB needy team!Fits a need for St. Louis, but if they can trade down to a QB needy team or a team targeting Clowney, they should do so. (same can be said about most teams though)
We'll see. I think Bradford will be fine. Maybe not an elite guy, but no worse than Flacco and Eli.Trade down to a QB needy team? They ARE a QB needy team!Fits a need for St. Louis, but if they can trade down to a QB needy team or a team targeting Clowney, they should do so. (same can be said about most teams though)
I see we are devolving into a list of 6 foot tall WR's. I'm well aware of the numerous productive receivers at and under 6 feet... I'm aware of zero elite WR's that aren't taller and bigger. I'm talking about the "throw it up even when they are double teamed" guys.Did you see what Blackmon was doing prior to his suspension?I'm not saying they won't be productive or good options at the next level... but why are people leaning to Watkins and Lee over Evans?
Watkins looked tiny standing on a college field last night. Wouldn't the NFL be looking for the physical guy with size ala Calvin, AJ, Gordon, Demarius, Dez, Alshon, Graham, etc as a top pick?
Is a 6 foot WR going to be a game breaker (what I would expect from a top 10 pick) in the NFL these days?
Yeah, the last time Evans came around, his name was Mike Williams. That was almost 10 years ago now.I see we are devolving into a list of 6 foot tall WR's. I'm well aware of the numerous productive receivers at and under 6 feet... I'm aware of zero elite WR's that aren't taller and bigger. I'm talking about the "throw it up even when they are double teamed" guys.Did you see what Blackmon was doing prior to his suspension?I'm not saying they won't be productive or good options at the next level... but why are people leaning to Watkins and Lee over Evans?
Watkins looked tiny standing on a college field last night. Wouldn't the NFL be looking for the physical guy with size ala Calvin, AJ, Gordon, Demarius, Dez, Alshon, Graham, etc as a top pick?
Is a 6 foot WR going to be a game breaker (what I would expect from a top 10 pick) in the NFL these days?
I don't consider Blackmon/Crabtree/Garcon/S.Smith/T.Smith/Wayne/Cruz/etc to be receivers you would look for in a top 10 pick. That isn't to say they aren't very good WR's, I just wouldn't place them in the top half of #1's in the league.
When you list out the dominating WR's in the league you see a pattern of height and size... namely a few inches and 25+ pounds.
That is the discussion I was trying to bring out... there are a surplus of freak talented athletes in the league, but it appears rarer to get that along with the size.
I'm just a guy posting on a message board, but when I watch the handful of top ranked WR's coming out this year... I feel like Evans would be the guy that comes along less often. As such I would imagine he would be more sought after by the NFL teams drafting high.
So is Blackmon... I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.Watkins is 6'1", not 6' or bellow.