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radballs
Footballguy
Thom,
Thanks for starting a commentary thread. I'm trying to figure out how this is working out. There's some tremendous value falling a bit further than I would have thought, but maybe the point structure has something to do with that. Maybe not. Thanks for your help here.
Ollie aka radballs
Thanks for starting a commentary thread. I'm trying to figure out how this is working out. There's some tremendous value falling a bit further than I would have thought, but maybe the point structure has something to do with that. Maybe not. Thanks for your help here.
Ollie aka radballs
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Thom Yorke
Footballguy
No problem. I think this draft format, perhaps with some minor tweaks, has a lot of potential. Thanks for making it happen.FWIW, I spent a lot of time debating between Addai and Parker at #8. I'm a big Parker fan, but Addai's pass catching skills and more dynamic offense sealed the deal for me.
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
I've grabbed Steve at 1.13 in WSL2 and 1.11 in PDSL1. He's easily WR1 on my board.
Domination
Footballguy
I see this opinion from alot of people, and I can say that I don't understand it. He is a great WR, but on a team that is not a high powered offense, and for a guy who has only performed at a top level in 1 year, to say that he is easily the #1 WR seems odd to me. Would someone like to clue me in on this opinion?
BassNBrew
Footballguy
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2006/06finalppgstats.phpTwo studly years in a row and a new OC who wants to get him more involved. He's the toughest guy to cover in the league, fearless over the middle, and generally displays good hands. He can beat you short or deep. He has demonstrated he can score from inside the 5 yard line. Also a running threat. Great attitude and the clear number one on his team (unlike Harrison, CJ, and Fitz).
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
Harrison would have been my pick at 2.9, but with Addai already on my squad, I opted for Owens, who was just behind Marv on my board.
Domination
Footballguy
I stand corrected. He had a very good and quiet year last year.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Interesting...Smith, Owens, Wayne, Housh, Holt are in my top five. Walker, Harrison, CJ, and Fitz knocking on the door so close that it really doesn't matter.
Orgazmo
Footballguy
He just looks so damn frail compared to TO, but you can't argue his results. Go old guys go!
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2. 
WHY JEFF? WHY??????????????
WHY JEFF? WHY??????????????
BassNBrew
Footballguy
You really want that question answered..."WHY????????????"The obvious answer is that Jeff is getting ready to move him up in his upcoming rankings.Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2.WHY JEFF? WHY??????????????
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
3.4 is a nice spot for Thomas Jones. In some of my other message board survivors, he's gone mid 2nd round (he actually went 15th overall in SSL2!). He won't light the world on fire, but he makes a heck of a RB2 in this format, particularly in the 3rd round after you've already snagged a WR1.
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Thom Yorke
Footballguy
It's also hard to argue with Pictus's LT/Driver/AJohnson start. Of course, there's a big doubt in my mind as to whether or not it will be worth losing 9 points a week to have gotten it.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
You really want that question answered..."WHY????????????"The obvious answer is that Jeff is getting ready to move him up in his upcoming rankings.Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2.WHY JEFF? WHY??????????????
hey..... I'll explain after my next pick.
Fiddles
Footballguy
agree
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
Perhaps I was overzealous, but it is refreshing to not be drafting in roughly the same spot I have for all of the SLs I've been in. Time and my hopefully improving draft skills will tell if 9 points over the bottom guys and fewer towards the top guys was worth it. If I get half way, I beleive it makes a point.
Domination
Footballguy
I couldn't be happier getting TJ in the 3rd. He isn't flashy, but should give me consistant production.
Domination
Footballguy
I must say that I was surprised that you went with Driver, considering you already were losing LT and 9 points that week. But totally understand drafting from a different spot than normal, but ended up drafting in same spot as SSL .
valence
Footballguy
Very sad that MJD didn't make it back to me in the 2nd. When he didn't I decided to take the top pick at QB and TE. In past years I have been knocked out because of inconsistent QB and TE play so I won't have to worry about that here.
filling in my WR and RB should be a fun challenge
filling in my WR and RB should be a fun challenge
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
I always like to see folks try unorthodox moves, mostly because I'm often too scared to try them myself.Very sad that MJD didn't make it back to me in the 2nd. When he didn't I decided to take the top pick at QB and TE. In past years I have been knocked out because of inconsistent QB and TE play so I won't have to worry about that here.filling in my WR and RB should be a fun challenge
That said, I tried WR/WR in the first two rounds picking from the 13 hole in WSL2, and managed to nab Travis Henry in round 5, before he went to Denver. I think WSL lends itself a bit more to that kind of risk taking, given that you can get lucky with some mid-round gems as a result of free agency. You've certainly started your team with two incredibly safe, sure-fire studs. I'll be to see how you end up.
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Domination
Footballguy
SSL4 had someone try the same thing with Gates and Manning. I have been too busy to see how the rest of the team ended up.
valence
Footballguy
oh really? I'll check it out.
Fiddles
Footballguy
Master Shake2.03 (19)Peyton Manning, IND, QB1(6)4.03 (51)Jamal Lewis, CLE, RB26(7)5.14 (78)Fred Taylor, JAC, RB34(4)6.03 (83)Brandon Jackson ®, GB, RB35(7)10.03 (147)Mike Bell, DEN, RB49(6)3.14 (46)Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR17(9)7.14 (110)Derrick Mason, BAL, WR37(8)8.03 (115)Muhsin Muhammad, CHI, WR42(9)11.14 Joe Jurevicous(sp)1.14 (14)Antonio Gates, SD, TE1(7)9.14 (142)Ravens, BAL, D2(8)
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
If the Jamal pick was a better WR I'd really like this team. (20/20 hindsight though - who knew he'd get FTaylor and BJax at 5/6).
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
So ok, here's my thoughts on this.I reached down a little lower on my list for a WR that wouldn't conflict on my RB1 bye week. I looked at Roy, but didn't want my 1-2 punch to have the same bye, so I passed on him and went to a NO WR, a Week 4 bye to leave me ample room to grab a solid WR2 in Round 3. I was hoping for less of a run on them, but Plax represents the end (or near end) of Tier 2 WRs. I knew I'd wind up with 2 so the picks were based on (A) who would likely be there at 3.06 and (B) not really caring about which 2 I got as WRs 10-20 are very close IMHO.You really want that question answered..."WHY????????????"The obvious answer is that Jeff is getting ready to move him up in his upcoming rankings.Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2.hey.....
Also their byes leave me ample room to maneuver for additional WRs later in the draft.
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
For a while there, I was dreaming of a Owens/Moss WR core. 
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Something he learned in SSL3So ok, here's my thoughts on this.I reached down a little lower on my list for a WR that wouldn't conflict on my RB1 bye week. I looked at Roy, but didn't want my 1-2 punch to have the same bye, so I passed on him and went to a NO WR, a Week 4 bye to leave me ample room to grab a solid WR2 in Round 3. I was hoping for less of a run on them, but Plax represents the end (or near end) of Tier 2 WRs. I knew I'd wind up with 2 so the picks were based on (A) who would likely be there at 3.06 and (B) not really caring about which 2 I got as WRs 10-20 are very close IMHO.You really want that question answered..."WHY????????????"The obvious answer is that Jeff is getting ready to move him up in his upcoming rankings.Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2.I'll explain after my next pick.
Also their byes leave me ample room to maneuver for additional WRs later in the draft.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Kind of liking Buress at 4.1 in SSL2So ok, here's my thoughts on this.I reached down a little lower on my list for a WR that wouldn't conflict on my RB1 bye week. I looked at Roy, but didn't want my 1-2 punch to have the same bye, so I passed on him and went to a NO WR, a Week 4 bye to leave me ample room to grab a solid WR2 in Round 3. I was hoping for less of a run on them, but Plax represents the end (or near end) of Tier 2 WRs. I knew I'd wind up with 2 so the picks were based on (A) who would likely be there at 3.06 and (B) not really caring about which 2 I got as WRs 10-20 are very close IMHO.You really want that question answered..."WHY????????????"The obvious answer is that Jeff is getting ready to move him up in his upcoming rankings.Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2.I'll explain after my next pick.
Also their byes leave me ample room to maneuver for additional WRs later in the draft.
radballs
Footballguy
You're reassured by the King of Reach?BassNBrew said:Kind of liking Buress at 4.1 in SSL2So ok, here's my thoughts on this.I reached down a little lower on my list for a WR that wouldn't conflict on my RB1 bye week. I looked at Roy, but didn't want my 1-2 punch to have the same bye, so I passed on him and went to a NO WR, a Week 4 bye to leave me ample room to grab a solid WR2 in Round 3. I was hoping for less of a run on them, but Plax represents the end (or near end) of Tier 2 WRs. I knew I'd wind up with 2 so the picks were based on (A) who would likely be there at 3.06 and (B) not really caring about which 2 I got as WRs 10-20 are very close IMHO.You really want that question answered..."WHY????????????"The obvious answer is that Jeff is getting ready to move him up in his upcoming rankings.Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2.hey.....
I'll explain after my next pick.
Also their byes leave me ample room to maneuver for additional WRs later in the draft.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Thanks gb, now I wish I could have that pick over.You're reassured by the King of Reach?BassNBrew said:Kind of liking Buress at 4.1 in SSL2So ok, here's my thoughts on this.I reached down a little lower on my list for a WR that wouldn't conflict on my RB1 bye week. I looked at Roy, but didn't want my 1-2 punch to have the same bye, so I passed on him and went to a NO WR, a Week 4 bye to leave me ample room to grab a solid WR2 in Round 3. I was hoping for less of a run on them, but Plax represents the end (or near end) of Tier 2 WRs. I knew I'd wind up with 2 so the picks were based on (A) who would likely be there at 3.06 and (B) not really caring about which 2 I got as WRs 10-20 are very close IMHO.You really want that question answered..."WHY????????????"The obvious answer is that Jeff is getting ready to move him up in his upcoming rankings.Somehow, I envisioned my mancrush favorite wide receiver (Colston) slipping into the middle of the third round like he did in SSL2.hey.....
Also their byes leave me ample room to maneuver for additional WRs later in the draft.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Barber + 8.5 + Smith + Wayne >>> LT + Driver + AJ in 2007Going to last year's stats...12.8 + 8.5 + 18.6 + 16.9 = 56.830.2 + 16.9 + 15.6 = 62.7You've already cut the delta to 6 points with the following factors in your favor...1) Last year was a NFL record breaking year for LT. Gonna be hard for him to maintain that.2) You now draft first the rest of the way and can make up more ground.3) Barber's 12.8 ppg will be easier to top by your 3rd or 4th back then LT's 30.2.4) LT's weekly points will fluctuate more than your RB1 points posted. The name of the game here isn't to score the most, just not score the least.
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
I have to admit that I'm not much of a fan of taking three RB in the first 4 rounds of a survivor draft, but I thought Peterson was too much of a value at 4.9 to pass up.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
I don't understand how Peterson represents value? I haven't heard how he will be used in the offense as of yet in year one. Do you have him projected with more carries than CT?Thom Yorke said:
radballs
Footballguy
Most people do according to recent ADPs.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Team name = My Three 'Sons?QB:
RB: Brian Westbrook, Cedric Benson
WR: Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Darrell Jackson
TE:
PK:
DEF:
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
QB: Peyton Manning (6)RB: Ahman Green (10) Marshawn Lynch (6)WR:TE: Antonio Gates (7)K
valence
Footballguy
QB: Peyton Manning (6)RB: Ahman Green (10) Marshawn Lynch (6)WR: Terry Glenn (8), Donte Stallworth (10)TE: Antonio Gates (7)K
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Plus points to boot.Usually the Gates/Manning owner doesn't get two starting RBs.QB: Peyton Manning (6)RB: Ahman Green (10) Marshawn Lynch (6)WR: Terry Glenn (8), Donte Stallworth (10)TE: Antonio Gates (7)K
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
QB:
RB: Frank Gore (6), Warrick Dunn (8)
WR: Marques Colston (4), Plaxico Burress (9), Mark Clayton (8)
TE: Alge Crumpler (8)
RB: Frank Gore (6), Warrick Dunn (8)
WR: Marques Colston (4), Plaxico Burress (9), Mark Clayton (8)
TE: Alge Crumpler (8)
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
Dunn was a nice pick at 6.11. I'd have taken him at 6.9, but just couldn't justify a 4th RB with only 2 WR and no QB on my squad.
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
QB: Hasselbeck
RB: Addai, McAllister, A. Peterson
WR: Owens, Galloway
TE:
K:
DT:
RB: Addai, McAllister, A. Peterson
WR: Owens, Galloway
TE:
K:
DT:
