Cutler broken thumb (1 Viewer)

[DoubleG]

The thread took a sharp turn towards trying to get under MOP's skin. The posts don't offer much in the way of facts, just a lot of MOP bashing and personal insults. A few posters as usual have to ruin it for everyone. I'll bow out of the thread, shame the Bears lost their QB.

That's kinda funny, because as I was reading, I thought the whole thread took a turn for the worse when MOP decided to make an injured QB thread about the Packers. Then, turned into an "Everyone's picking on MOP" thread.Instead of actually talking about...oh, I don't know... JAY CUTLER and his thumb.Can we keep this on target please. Future staffer, indeed.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'm sure LD doing another MOP stalker post again, guy just cannot get enough but adds nothing to this place. Indy might have been tripped up by Pittsburgh and I discount New England in the Super Bowl as it wasn't a 6 seed in their conference. The Giants went thru Tampa Bay, Dallas, and Green Bay along the way and none of those teams were undefeated come week 10 or 11, most of them had losses well before week 8 in fact. Of course wildcard teams have made the Super Bowl but rarely do they knock off a team of Green Bay's caliber in order to get to the Super Bowl. I checked in at the cage and it seems Banana and LD couldn't wait to share their bait with the group so this really isn't about any kind of discussion, just blatant personal attacks by a few knuckleheads who have made it their life mission to try and ruin this place unfortunately. It's why so many have left and why many more will follow. They have nothing to share but have all the time in the world to heckle and mock, it's their ammo and it's gotten really old and worn out.

Jesus, dude. I'm a MoP fan but it's really hard to defend you after seeing your work in this thread. The fact you somehow think everyone is out to get you because it's you is something else. More likely? It has something to do with your insanely ignorant comments and inability to see how wrong you are after several posts have shown how far off the reservation you are. You took this thread and made it all about you. Of course you'll disagree with me. It must be everyone else, right?

 

[Sabertooth]

Dammit. First I'm hearing of this. I knew I should have started the guy yesterday.

 

[sho nuff]

Sucks for he and the Bears.

Cutler had been playing very well...finally looked like he and Martz were on the same page.

Oline protecting him...Forte going...and that defense looking that good.

Bad break for sure.

 

[gdg76]

As a Bears fan, this obviously sucks. You want the whole team to stay healthy when you're on this kind of win streak.

However, Hanie is not the worst that could happen. In fact, in a perfect world, he'll light it up for the next 6 weeks (against some weak opponents) and then demand a decent draft pick a la Cassel in New England.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm sure LD doing another MOP stalker post again, guy just cannot get enough but adds nothing to this place. Indy might have been tripped up by Pittsburgh and I discount New England in the Super Bowl as it wasn't a 6 seed in their conference. The Giants went thru Tampa Bay, Dallas, and Green Bay along the way and none of those teams were undefeated come week 10 or 11, most of them had losses well before week 8 in fact. Of course wildcard teams have made the Super Bowl but rarely do they knock off a team of Green Bay's caliber in order to get to the Super Bowl. I checked in at the cage and it seems Banana and LD couldn't wait to share their bait with the group so this really isn't about any kind of discussion, just blatant personal attacks by a few knuckleheads who have made it their life mission to try and ruin this place unfortunately. It's why so many have left and why many more will follow. They have nothing to share but have all the time in the world to heckle and mock, it's their ammo and it's gotten really old and worn out.

I really don't think that anyone would disagree with you that Green Bay will be (heavy) favorites to get back to the Super Bowl. I guess those that are questioning you, are likely doing so because you're basically saying that all the other teams right now should be saying "why bother?".The NFL has showed us almost every season in recent memory that momentum can carry a team through the playoffs and strange things can happen. Let's not forget that Green Bay needed a Giants' loss and a win in Week 17 just to make the playoffs last season. The Bears have looked real good and defense and a strong running game have proven to be formulas for success in the playoffs.

 

[sho nuff]

A 7-9 Seattle team just beat New Orleans in the playoffs.

The NYG beat an undefeated Patriots team as a double digit underdog.

The Steelers and Green Bay have both won Super Bowls playing every playoff game on the road, Green Bay last year.

I guess every other team should just quit and we can watch GB and SF play each other next week for the championship. I mean why even try? There is a reason they play games on the field and not in your mind.

But that is just football talk. A decent argument that is fairly obvious. Really what irks me I suppose is going into a thread were a good, playoff bound team just lost their quarterback and exclaiming "they weren't going anywhere in the playoffs anyways" like it is some sort of consolation is just classless, besides being wrong.

The weirder thing, as I said in my post, is that you can't see that. Like you are missing an empathy gene or something. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Excellent details. The Giants also won four playoff games away from home, just like the Packers and Steelers. So literally half of the past six Super Bowl champions have been 5 and 6 seeds, and one beat a team that was undefeated.Of course, another aspect to this discussion is to consider what might happen if injuries affect the Packers or 49ers or both. It's disappointing to not get the opportunity to see how long the Bears might have been able to maintain their momentum. I thought they were peaking just a little too soon, as it would be hard to keep up their surge from mid-October all the way through to the playoffs, but I'd love to have seen them try. Hopefully, the diagnosis is premature in its severity and Cutler finds some way to get on the field in the next few weeks.

Have any wildcard teams knocked off a team going 10-0 to start the season...12-0, 14-0??? My feelings are Green Bay is in the midst of an unreal run here and I can't see anyone right now in the NFC getting by them. I also think because SF will have the division wrapped up in a week or two, get a 1st round bye, they will be well rested for whatever comes at them and they have major road wins. The only team to beat them so far is Dallas. I keep waiting for the Niners to slide or let up after a big win much like the Ravens have done all season and they simply do not.

I wasn't trying to be insensitive Banana, as I said I have enjoyed the run the last month put on by Chicago but I never took them seriously as a Super Bowl team, didn't really last year either though. Green Bay is running at a different level right now. Rodgers had an "off day" today and still was completing over 60% of his passes. They lose a Greg Jennings, insert Jordy Nelson, lose nelson, insert James Jones and Donald Driver, after that they have Cobb, it just is a smorgasbord of speed and an offense that plays games with teams.

Here let me go ahead and say that New Orleans, Atlanta, Dallas, and the NYG are all likely not going anywhere. I give Detroit an outside shot but we'll know more as these two teams face off twice down the stretch starting on Thursday. I guess i should have said everyone not named Green Bay is likely not going anywhere in the playoffs. I didn't mean to come across abrasive, was not my intent.

Im a Packer fan...and its great to be 10-0.But unless the defense shapes up...Rodgers is going to have to stay completely on fire to keep up this run when it comes playoff time.

SF, Det, Chi, NY are all teams that could beat them.

That is Chi with Cutler.

THey were playing as well as anyone in the league the last few weeks and could have been a team to go to SF or GB and beat them.

You are off your gourd here.

 

[pantagrapher]

Platinum bummer.

 

[timschochet]

Im a Packer fan...and its great to be 10-0.

But unless the defense shapes up...Rodgers is going to have to stay completely on fire to keep up this run when it comes playoff time.

SF, Det, Chi, NY are all teams that could beat them.

That is Chi with Cutler.

THey were playing as well as anyone in the league the last few weeks and could have been a team to go to SF or GB and beat them.

You are off your gourd here.

I think the Saints could also beat Green Bay- for some reason everyone forgets about them, and they've still got Brees and a great offense. I also think that Dallas could challenge as well under the right circumstances.Of course Green Bay is the best team. But the NFL 1 game elimination playoff system invites more flukes and upsets than in any other sport. If this were NBA basketball, and the Packers were playing any of these opponents in a 7 game series, then MOP would be right. But it's ONE game, with limited scoring: an incredibly short sample. ANYTHING can happen.

 

[SWC]

i am no bears fan but all the same i hate to see any team suffer a bad injury like this one to a key guy so i wish jay a small injury and speedy recovery so that the packers can beat the hell out of you at full strength take it to the bank also the nfc central is the toughest i have seen it in a long time and its awesome and i bet that teams like kansas city are glad they dont play in our division

 

[gdg76]

As a Bears fan, this obviously sucks. You want the whole team to stay healthy when you're on this kind of win streak.However, Hanie is not the worst that could happen. In fact, in a perfect world, he'll light it up for the next 6 weeks (against some weak opponents) and then demand a decent draft pick a la Cassel in New England.

Just looked it up - Hanie only signed a one year deal. Guess we won't be getting anything without franchising him (ha).Oh well, I hope Hanie uses this to go on to bigger and better things. I always thought he had great potential.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Forte just took a big hit with this news.

 

[sho nuff]

Im a Packer fan...and its great to be 10-0.

But unless the defense shapes up...Rodgers is going to have to stay completely on fire to keep up this run when it comes playoff time.

SF, Det, Chi, NY are all teams that could beat them.

That is Chi with Cutler.

THey were playing as well as anyone in the league the last few weeks and could have been a team to go to SF or GB and beat them.

You are off your gourd here.

I think the Saints could also beat Green Bay- for some reason everyone forgets about them, and they've still got Brees and a great offense. I also think that Dallas could challenge as well under the right circumstances.Of course Green Bay is the best team. But the NFL 1 game elimination playoff system invites more flukes and upsets than in any other sport. If this were NBA basketball, and the Packers were playing any of these opponents in a 7 game series, then MOP would be right. But it's ONE game, with limited scoring: an incredibly short sample. ANYTHING can happen.

Could? Sure.I did forget the Saints. Would be a shootout and whoever had the ball last kind of game.

Cowboys...its possible...but I think they are last on that list.

Just don't think they could come close to stopping Rodgers.

 

[moleculo]

really sorry for this news...was really looking forward to cutty's return to Denver... Hanies return to Colorado doesn't have quite as much drama.

 

[tsarc888]

Forte just took a big hit with this news.

I've seen several people mention this as a foregone conclusion but I'm not so sure.....Negatives: Less dynamic offense overall, less scoring opportunities, more stacking of the box.Positives: more carries, more check downs to RB's.I could see a situation where Forte's efficiency go down but this is offset by increase in volume.

 

[dornado]

As a Bears fan I am devastated by this... quickly took the shine off of a nice home win. As a Forte owner I'm more optimistic than some... teams will obviously be able to stack the box more effectively with Cutler out, but I'm of the opinion that Hanie's ability to keep plays alive with his feet (not elite by any means, but shifty enough to buy some time)will lead to a decent amount of check-downs to Forte under pressure (and there will likely be lots of pressure).

Count me as cautiously optimistic with regard to Forte, and hoping for a quick recovery for Cutler as a Bears fan.

 

[jonboltz]

really sorry for this news...was really looking forward to cutty's return to Denver... Hanies return to Colorado doesn't have quite as much drama.

Provides a good excuse for the Tebow-haters when he wins that game too.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Im a Packer fan...and its great to be 10-0.

But unless the defense shapes up...Rodgers is going to have to stay completely on fire to keep up this run when it comes playoff time.

SF, Det, Chi, NY are all teams that could beat them.

That is Chi with Cutler.

THey were playing as well as anyone in the league the last few weeks and could have been a team to go to SF or GB and beat them.

You are off your gourd here.

I think the Saints could also beat Green Bay- for some reason everyone forgets about them, and they've still got Brees and a great offense. I also think that Dallas could challenge as well under the right circumstances.Of course Green Bay is the best team. But the NFL 1 game elimination playoff system invites more flukes and upsets than in any other sport. If this were NBA basketball, and the Packers were playing any of these opponents in a 7 game series, then MOP would be right. But it's ONE game, with limited scoring: an incredibly short sample. ANYTHING can happen.

Could? Sure.I did forget the Saints. Would be a shootout and whoever had the ball last kind of game.

Cowboys...its possible...but I think they are last on that list.

Just don't think they could come close to stopping Rodgers.

The Saints came within inches (and then a conversion) of forcing OT - so of course they would have a chance.Dallas has a high powered offense that could keep up - and a better than average pass rush that could disrupt Rodgers under the right circumstances. I do agree the Packers would be at least a TD favorite over the Cowboys - but I don't think it would be a "shocking" upset if it occured.

 

[Rodeojones]

I wanted to comment on the Cutler/Roethlisberger comparison and whether Cutler's toughness is in question with this injury.

I fractured my hand several days ago and had surgery on it yesterday. I have a fracture in the "scaphoid" bone which is where the thumb meets the wrist. They inserted a screw along with a couple of wires to assist in the healing process. I currently have my hand in a hard splint with a sling and have a follow up appt. with the hand specialist in a week. They will x-ray the fracture again and then put my hand in a hard cast. The Dr. said I will be in the cast for 6-8 weeks with possible p.t. at the end.

I don't know if Cutler has the same injury but would agree with a previous poster that not all hand injuries are created equal. If Cutler was to have a similar injury it would be impossible for him to play.

 

[pantagrapher]

Forte just took a big hit with this news.

I've seen several people mention this as a foregone conclusion but I'm not so sure.....Negatives: Less dynamic offense overall, less scoring opportunities, more stacking of the box.Positives: more carries, more check downs to RB's.I could see a situation where Forte's efficiency go down but this is offset by increase in volume.

Forte is already getting so many touches, I don't see how they can increase his workload significantly.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Chicago Bears QB Jay Cutler (thumb) has an unstable fracture of the thumb on his throwing hand, according to a hand surgeon. "Jay Cutler having the surgery now means the bone is broken and shifted or displaced and is not what they call a stable fracture," hand surgeon Mark Cohen said. "It's an unstable fracture. On those you can't wait because they'll heal crooked or won't heal properly. The guy had a significant thumb injury and he's got to have the bone fixed so the bone can heal. He has no choices. The doctors have no choices. This is cut-and-dried." Due to the specific nature of the injury, Cutler may need longer than six weeks to return to the lineup. "It will take the bone four to six weeks to heal and he will need at least a couple of weeks to get his mobility back and be able to grip a football with that thumb even after the six weeks," Cohen said. "I don't know the details of the schedule, but to me the earliest possible return to play for an injury like that is closer to eight weeks."

 

[flapgreen]

Speculation from a doctor that hasn't seen Cutler and doesn't know all of the details of the injury.

 

[Buckna]

Us Texans fans sympathize. Let's all share a drink together

 

[flapgreen]

Us Texans fans sympathize. Let's all share a drink together

 

[cvnpoka]

I wanted to comment on the Cutler/Roethlisberger comparison and whether Cutler's toughness is in question with this injury.I fractured my hand several days ago and had surgery on it yesterday. I have a fracture in the "scaphoid" bone which is where the thumb meets the wrist. They inserted a screw along with a couple of wires to assist in the healing process. I currently have my hand in a hard splint with a sling and have a follow up appt. with the hand specialist in a week. They will x-ray the fracture again and then put my hand in a hard cast. The Dr. said I will be in the cast for 6-8 weeks with possible p.t. at the end.I don't know if Cutler has the same injury but would agree with a previous poster that not all hand injuries are created equal. If Cutler was to have a similar injury it would be impossible for him to play.

scaphoid injury needs surgery bc there is little blood flow and if left untreated the bone will die. not sure that is what cutler has or how soon he could return if it was. its too bad, i hope they sneak into the playoffs and he returns. as it is, this is great ammo for the haters.

 

[SWC]

i am sorry to hear about this but frankly i still have bad dreams about caleb haney in the nfc TITLE game last year when he just about beat the Pack so i think you will be ok but i hope jay comes back so that we can have a fair and square game between our teams and really no matter what ministronio of pain says the bears always get tough down the stretch and when they play the pack so take that to the bank the nfc is the best conference tough wise and seatle would be destroyed in this division and probably count there stars they are in some other division as a result

 

[Yenrub]

What is the latest on Cutler? Did the surgery go well?

Any chance he is back in week 16 or 17?

 

[DoubleG]

What is the latest on Cutler? Did the surgery go well?Any chance he is back in week 16 or 17?

The surgery went well - he's already starting rehab. The radio today said he' still on target to "come back before the end of the regular season". While many fans hope it's in time for GB - guys on the radio were indicating the Viking's game on Jan. 1 (week 17) is more the target. (Not sure if it was ESPN 1000 or the Score).For FF, I wouldn't count on anything. Do you want to start a QB on the road in Minn. that hasn't played in 5-6 weeks?