ZWK
Footballguy
Greg Peshek charted broken tackles & yards after contact for Lache Seastrunk, Melvin Gordon, and Bishop Sankey so far this season. Seastrunk and Gordon have excellent elusiveness numbers; Sankey is just average.
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[Dynasty] 2014 Draft Prospects (1 Viewer)
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EBF
Footballguy
Should be one of the better drafts in the last few years. Probably looking at something like 3-4 first round QBs, 1-2 first round RBs, 3-5 first round WRs, and 1-2 first round TEs. Good depth at WR.
Certainly a much better class overall than last year's, which IMO was pretty soft.
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BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
IMHO, the next 2-3 drafts will have some of the most gifted, talented and best skills players we've seen in a long time in EVERY skilled position.
QBs being the deepest, WRs next the RBs and TEs but more TEs drafted higher then we've ever seen.
I don't think I've ever been this excited about the next few draft classes.
Tex
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
This is very fascinating and thank you for posting. I've watched only a few of Gordon and Sankey's game but at least a dozen or so of Seastrunk the "men in the box" is an interesting metrix so I'll go back a look at some of his games. The fact that he only faced 7 men in the box on 18% of his carries is not a large enough same size for me to really judge. He also omitted the percent that Sanky and Gordon faced 7 men in the box. It would have also been important if he had given the percentages in all his data were possible not just some to give us a better perspective of the athlete.
The number of runs Gordon makes to the outside does concern me a bit because that's not going to work in the NFL, he must run between the tackles which Seastrunk doesn't have a problem doing. Very interesting information.
Tex
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I like your description of Gordon as a "glider". He runs a bit upright and reminds me some of a less powerful McFadden. I think I prefer Seastrunk too at this point. For me its Seastrunk, Watkins, Lee in their own tier at this point. Will try and look at some other rb/wr's soon to get a feel.
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werdnoynek
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Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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BigTex
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
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full article on the arrest by Matt Miller.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
You're telling me, Tex. I'm 0-7 with a rebuild, and I'm pretty much a lock for the #1 rookie and #1 Devy picks. I'm excited just thinking about my options.
Xue
Footballguy
Each of the 3 RBs had better YPC to the outside. Gordon is averaging 7 YPC when he does run up the middle. Imagine Gordon in that Baylor offense where the linemen have much larger gaps between them.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
To be fair, yes, Baylor spreads defenses out like no other for Seastrunk. But you're comparing this to a school known for their OL's and for their superior run blocking/blocking schemes as well in Wisconsin.So let's not pretend that they don't both have their own sets of advantages over some RB's in other programs.
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BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I'm in no way saying Gordon is a bad or horrible back, only that he runs outside too much for my liking. I'd like to see him run up the middle more often. The truth of the matter is we have absolutely no idea what Gordon would or could do at Baylor we only speculate and I'm not into that. I'm more of a numbers, visual, analytical type of person and I selected Seatrunk in my Devy league for several reason but mainly because he passed the eye ball test and the wow factor for me and I wouldn't trade him for Gordon today and Gordon may end up being the better back at the next level but I'm happy with my selection.
With that being said if for some reason I have an opportunity to draft Gordon in our draft this off-season, I'd do it in a heartbeat unless Gurley or Yeldon is available then I'm passing on Gordon. I'm not questioning either's YPC only if something drastic happen they'll likely be the first three backs taken in the draft.
Tex
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Well said, the more I've watched Sea over the last two years the more I've realized that it's not just the system which at first that's what I thought but as I watched my vids to look at Williams, Wright and Ganaway (RBIII was a given) this kid Sea was the one really getting my attention the most even in limited action and he truly is something special.
BigTex
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BigTex
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You took the words right out of my mouth. He reminds me of M. Lattimore from that perspective with the volume of carries at times he was getting some of his numbers. I'm not saying the are built the same, have the same style or anything like that only the looking at the volume of carries.
Tex
Milkman
Footballguy
I guess I'm in the minority here I love Sankey. I think he could be the best RB in this class. I was watching some tape on him and he reminds me of Ray Rice. He looks like he has all the tools to be a 3 down back in the NFL. He has great vision and it seems like he doesn't need that much room to break big runs. Great hands as well. The question on Sankey is if he has the speed to play in the NFL.
EBF
Footballguy
Eric Ebron highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUfBK9tmgE
He seems to take a lot of bad shots to his lower body, but he's super athletic and fluid for a TE. Very impressive. Wish I had picked him in my devy leagues. He looks like he's going to be a first tier rookie this year along with Lee, Watkins, Seastrunk, and possibly a few others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUfBK9tmgE
He seems to take a lot of bad shots to his lower body, but he's super athletic and fluid for a TE. Very impressive. Wish I had picked him in my devy leagues. He looks like he's going to be a first tier rookie this year along with Lee, Watkins, Seastrunk, and possibly a few others.
EBF
Footballguy
Even with 6 pts per passing TD, I would pass on QBs early in a 1QB league unless I was 95% sure I was getting a star. Too little demand in 1 QB leagues to make the position that valuable. I like this QB class, but don't think any single prospect there is a slam dunk, so that means I'd be focusing on RB/WR/TE. My top 6-7 would probably look like this:
RB Lache Seastrunk, Baylor
WR Marqise Lee, USC
WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson
TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina
RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
WR Allen Robinson, Penn State
WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
Moncrief, Hill, and Sankey in the mix for the next few spots.
Milkman
Footballguy
Nice. Thanks EBF.
That sucks. I was hoping Seastrunk would fall.......This is my first dynasty league and I have 3 picks in the first round (I know nobody cares lol) but my first pick might be the third pick. So I have little shot at Seastrunk. I guess I would be super happy with Lee, Gordon, and Sankey though.
That sucks. I was hoping Seastrunk would fall.......This is my first dynasty league and I have 3 picks in the first round (I know nobody cares lol) but my first pick might be the third pick. So I have little shot at Seastrunk. I guess I would be super happy with Lee, Gordon, and Sankey though.
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EBF
Footballguy
You can always trade up too. If most people value the top 5 players pretty evenly and you only like one of them, it makes sense to move up for your guy.
Penguin
Footballguy
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NFL Draft Prospects: Top-32Thursday, October 24, 2013
1. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville*
NFL Comparison: Russell Wilson, but three inches taller.
Where He Wins: Excellent pocket movement. Bounces off his back foot to step up against edge pressure and isn’t afraid to slide laterally when faced with an interior rush. Keeps eyes up to survey coverages and works to multiple reads. Placement and touch are there, but has the velocity to hit vertical routes on the move. Not afraid to give a covered receiver in single coverage a chance to win. Reports have stated he takes care of many checks at the line of scrimmage.
Where He Fits: He fits any offense. Sustains success from the pocket but also has mobility which isn’t showcased often. Hits every level with placement and timing.
2014 Draft Projection: No. 1 or 2 pick.
2. QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon**
NFL Comparison: A more refined Colin Kaepernick out of Nevada.
Where He Wins: Does not get enough credit for his success in the pocket. Quick decision maker on short to intermediate routes, which is exactly what up-tempo offenses need. Not afraid to shift off that first read, reset, and fire to another target while inside or outside of the pocket. Placement is improving and obviously has the velocity to hit any throw on a rope. He offers a read option/zone read element as well.
Where He Fits: Has plenty of experience in an up-tempo offense, but his pocket skills will translate for any team. Creativity will help use his talents in the best way.
Draft Projection: No. 1 or 2 pick.
3. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina*
NFL Comparison: Uses a J.J. Watt like swim move, athleticism might be Julius Peppers-esque.
Where He Wins: Predominantly lines up at right defensive end in a three-point stance as a five, seven, or nine technique. His explosion off the snap is ridiculous, gaining an instant advantage against his competition. Obviously the swarming wingspan and closing speed is there, and he enjoys finishing hits with force. Has frequently taken the inside line this year, likely due to the shorter distance to the backfield. Loves to utilize an arm over swim and athletic footwork is on displays when avoiding cut blocks. Loops inside with ease. A rare power and speed athlete.
Where He Fits: Most experience in a four man front, but his talent could be used in any defensive scheme.
Draft Projection: The first non-QB off the board. Top-5 pick.
Extended Evaluation
4. Pass rushing OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA
NFL Comparison: Athleticism could be similar to Bruce Irvin.
Where He Wins: The lightning-quick pass rusher is able to gain an advantage on the edge and keep it thanks to his burst off the line, ability to cut off either foot towards the quarterback, and flexibility to bend around the corner. He closes distances quickly, which can be effective from a variety of alignments, and Barr is a punishing finisher.
Where He Fits: Experience as a stand up rusher next to a three man front. Able to loop inside.
Draft Projection: Top-5 selection. Has a chance to be drafted over Clowney.
Extended Evaluation
5. T Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
NFL Comparison: Jordan Gross
Where He Wins: Doesn’t sit back and wait, finds contact through his hands and is an aggressive blocker. Obtains inside hand positioning and adjusts if necessary. Athletic feet to keep proper shoulder alignment, which prevents bending from the waist. Displays ability to bend at the knee to absorb and redirect. Sets up cut blocks and drives through with force. Moving from right to left tackle.
Where He Fits: Has experience and played at a high level at left or right tackle.
Draft Projection: The top offensive tackle off the board. Top-10.
6. LB C.J. Mosley, Alabama
NFL Comparison: Sean Lee
Where He Wins: Very little wasted movement. Lines up as inside linebacker behind three and four man fronts. Has so much range, chases down athletic quarterbacks to the edge. Same range is visible in pass coverage. Contacts crossing routes and keeps footwork to sustain and trail. Works over top of blocks with quick steps. Keeps nice vision at the second level by strafing then attacks uphill. Will finish tackles.
Where He Fits: Has transitioned from a coverage linebacker to the complete package. Scheme versatile at inside linebacker. Could potentially see time on the weakside.
Draft Projection: Very dependent on how teams react to his injury history. Top-20.
7. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson*
NFL Comparison: The current Torrey Smith.
Where He Wins: The combination of burst and smooth movements in and out of his breaks or after catch moves is great. Hands catcher away from his body. An explosive player with the ball in his hands, gets up to high gear very quickly. Will go across the middle and catch passes in tight windows. Cuts routes off very quickly. Has balance to stay up beyond first defender. Wins from slot or outside.
Where He Fits: Will help in a variety of ways, including yards after the catch, vertical routes, and in the return game.
Draft Projection: Expected to be the first receiver off the board, unless a team goes for a taller target who specializes winning at the catch point. Top-10.
8. S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama*
NFL Comparison: Reshad Jones
Where He Wins: Has excellent length for the position. Controlled aggressiveness when closing towards the line of scrimmage. Not a watcher, he gets in the action. Reads run and reacts quickly, even from single high. Has seen time from free or strong safety. Capable in playing man and zone situations, either near or off the line of scrimmage. A really, really good safety.
Where He Fits: A likely interchangeable safety that can play near the line of scrimmage or in the deep half.
Draft Projection: Top-15 selection.
9. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State*
NFL Comparison: Lavonte David, but with more length. What many want Alec Ogletree to be.
Where He Wins: Long and lean. Projects to weakside linebacker. His speed to the edge is excellent. There are some wasted movements when working the backside, but once the target and ally are located he gets there in a hurry. Zone drops are smooth. Asked to blitz from inside and on the edge. Takes tight angles into the backfield on edge runs.
Where He Fits: Likely as a weakside linebacker who will stay on in nickel situations.
Draft Projection: First-round.
10. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo
NFL Comparison: Akeem Ayers
Where He Wins: Displays a unique combination of size and strength. Has quickness to get underneath an offensive lineman’s pads and then use his strength to drive that lineman into the backfield. Controls run blockers, maintaining outside leverage and resetting the line of scrimmage. Has enough athleticism to be a factor in coverage and can avoid cut blocks.
Where He Fits: As a stand up weakside pass rusher alongside a three man line or could play a strong side linebacker in a 4-3 under.
Draft Projection: Has off-field question stemming from a suspension, but likely top-20 pick.
Fulton: Mack vs. Miller
11. DT Dominique Easley, Florida
NFL Comparison: Jay Ratliff or Earl Mitchell
Where He Wins: Easley’s success inside compared to when on the edge is a no contest. His quickness to force his opposition off balance or shoot face up gaps causes instant disruption, displaying active hands to keep separation and a forward momentum. He impacts games when gaining promising positioning.
Where He Fits: Everywhere. Has experience as a five technique end but thrived in a one or zero technique role this season. Could be a disrupting, upfield nose tackle.
Draft Projection: This is difficult. Easley is a top-10 talent but has two ACL tears to his name on opposite knees. Played at a high level this season after the first one. I still think top-40, like Cornelius “Tank” Carradine.
Extended Evaluation
12. DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame*
NFL Comparison: Flashes of Vince Wilfork
Where He Wins: Lines up as a nose tackle or shade in a three man front. Can work over top of a block and create penetration at the same time. Stops momentum very quickly and changes direction well for a big man. Has the leg drive to penetrate face up and strength to shed it close spaces. Can disrupt the run upfield or hold his spot with anchor versus the run. Has some Vince Wilfork to him.
Where He Fits: Likely a one or zero shade in a three man front, but don’t rule him out of four man fronts.
Draft Projection: Has been a letdown at times this season, but likely top-32.
13. CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State*
NFL Comparison: Jason McCourty
Where He Wins: Attacks the jam or blocking receiver, frequently gets into the action. Will play off or press man coverage, attacks the catch point by cutting in front of the target. Even plays on special teams. Trails in close distances and prevents the sliver of separation at the catch point. Makes things difficult on the opposition.
Where He Fits: Not locked into one side of the field. Likely better in press due to physical nature, but shows he can attack and drive in off coverage.
Draft Projection: Poor performance against Jared Abbrederis, but likely top-20.
14. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech*
NFL Comparison: Does some Jimmy Graham-like things, but more along the lines of what many want Vance McDonald to be.
Where He Wins: A matchup nightmare. Uses his frame against corners and safeties to gain a positional advantage. Can do the same with safeties while creating space with fluid routes. An easy mover against linebackers. Has always been a willing blocker in space, but he has added an inline blocking element to his game. Getting stronger at the catch point when climbing the ladder. Presents some yards after catch skills.
Where He Fits: A receiving tight end in 12 personnel. Can play out on the edge, in the slot, and has added an inline blocking element to his game.
Draft Projection: Mentioned he would return for his senior season, but that could change in January. Suffered a major injury in 2012. I expect a top-32 selection.
15. CB Jason Verrett, TCU
NFL Comparison: Stephon Gilmore
Where He Wins: Active player who doesn’t wait to react. Keeps close trailing distance and makes tackles for a loss on crossing routes by forcing receivers back. Quick in his movements once diagnosing and locating. Has great vision, baits quarterbacks from off man with success. Coverage versatile. Hides blitz very well.
Where He Fits: Plays a lot of off coverage, but that doesn’t mean he lacks physical play. Tends to play boundary (short) side.
Draft Projection: First-round.
16. T Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama*
NFL Comparison: Trent Williams
Where He Wins: Does occasionally bend at the waist but is athletic enough to recover and regain balance. Best when keeping separation thanks to great length. Can get a bit short in his drops, but again, has the athletic lower half to react and keep positioning. Better in pass protection than run blocking.
Where He Fits: Likelyleft tackle but could start on the right side as well. The two aren’t so different anymore.
Draft Projection: Has shown weaknesses this season, mainly in the form of overextension or slow feet off the snap, but talent is there. Top-20.
17. WR Marqise Lee, USC*
NFL Comparison: Reggie Wayne
Where He Wins: Long, lean strider. Best as a straight-line receiver. Doesn't mind chipping the edge when in motion or finishing off runs with low shoulder. Obvious burst of quickness in first or second step, then it builds after that. Lines up in the slot and outside, smooth runner in his breaks to avoid contact. Frequently sent in motion. Hands catcher. Can make people miss in the open field, but doesn't have outstanding lateral agility.
Where He Fits: Likely outside receiver who gets vertical with fluid routes and long speed. Can easily peel back patterns and create separation when working towards the quarterback.
Draft Projection: Has dealt with injuries, drops, and bad quarterback play this year. Still a top-40 selection.
18. DE Aaron Lynch, USF*
NFL Comparison: Aldon Smith
Where He Wins: Very quick movements in tight spaces. Looked lean in 2011 and has lost weight since, which has made things interesting. Turns poor positioning into positive situations with length and foot speed. Plays high but lifts and shrugs to create leverage. If technique and pad level work out, watch out.
Where He Fits: If frame stays the same, he could be a stand up rusher next to a three man line with the ability to close off the edge, use length, and loop back inside.
Draft Projection: Lynch is noticeably still rusty, but the talent didn’t just disappear. Top-40.
19. DT Will Sutton, Arizona State
NFL Comparison: La’Roi Glover
Where He Wins: Sutton takes advantage of space. Whether it be shooting past reach blocks in the sliver of time afforded to him thanks to an animated first step and forward lean, or hand use and quick feet to generate that separation on his own, Sutton finishes with closing speed. His flexibility to bend and gain positive positioning is tough to find.
Where He Fits: Likely as a three technique in a four man front, could play some one in pass rushing situations.
Draft Projection: Too much has been made about his added weight. He isn’t a different player. The foundation of Sutton’s game was never quickness, it was leverage and technical hand use. Still, he will get knocked of lack of size or added weight. Top-64.
Extended Evaluation
20. TE Eric Ebron, UNC*
NFL Comparison: A physical Jared Cook Jr.
Where He Wins: An outstanding straight-line athlete with some bend/flexibility for his size. Will stretch defenses and then cut his route back to the quarterback. Presents a big target and can separate after the catch. Improving consistency at the catch point and a willing blocker.
Where He Fits: An inline option who can be split out to matchup with different defenders.
Draft Projection: Top-25.
21. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
NFL Comparison: Aqib Talib
Where He Wins: An extremely physical corner who loves to press at the line of scrimmage. Frequently patient with his jam, not overextending but rather allowing the receiver to enter contact area. Rides inside hip downfield while sustaining position. Hand fights and flips his head quickly when receiver looks back for the football at the top of their route.
Where He Fits: Press corner or a few yards off on the edge. Will be physical in run support. Matches up at the catch point in contested situations which is critical.
Draft Projection: Might run a slow forty, which will lead to overreaction. Top-40.
22. T Taylor Lewan, Michigan
NFL Comparison: Sebastian Vollmer
Where He Wins: Wide stance, wants to find contact through his hands. Has an aggressive mentality, but that can get him in trouble. Even if positioning is off balance, his strong base helps anchor and stop momentum. Better run blocker than pass protector, but wins when gaining a latch in either situation. Asked to pull inside and lead blocks well.
Where He Fits: Could see him on the left or right side.
Draft Projection: Obviously the NFL values offensive tackles. Possible top-15 selection.
23. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M*
NFL Comparison: Vincent Jackson
Where He Wins: Absolutely dominant at the catch point. Wins on the edge with long speed, excellent body control, strong hands, and high pointing ability. When he is covered he is still open. Winning in these situations might be more important than separation at the NFL level.
Where He Fits: Outside receiver with a quarterback who is not afraid to test tight single coverage.
Draft Projection: First-round and would not be shocked if he is the first receiver off the board. Slow test times could hurt.
24. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State*
NFL Comparison: Victor Cruz
Where He Wins: An explosive receiver that wins at every level of the field. Can take short passes for long gains after creating even more separation. Creates space on intermediate patterns. Tracks vertical passes exceptionally well. Takes the top off coverages. Has a large catch radius for someone his size.
Where He Fits: Some might only see a slot receiver, but he’s an accomplished edge target as well.
Draft Projection: Top-50.
24. CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Oregon*
NFL Comparison: Brandon Flowers
Where He Wins: Won’t always engage blockers but will attack full speed when lining up ball carriers in the open field. Attempts to disrupt catch point when receiver high points target. Top end closing speed. Mirrors in tight man coverage but also displays press bail skills.
Where He Fits: Experience as field side corner, so can play either half.
Draft Projection: First-round.
25. T Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M*
NFL Comparison: Tyron Smith
Where He Wins: Outstanding length with footwork to mirror. Does not possess the strongest punch, but he bends in all the right places (knee, ankles). Finds contact through his hands, obtains a latch, and keeps his opposition under control. Understands to ride edge rushers around the pocket and inside armbar prevents a shorter distance on inside rush.
Where He Fits: Has experience at guard and right tackle, but he is more than capable to play left tackle in the NFL.
Draft Projection: Has stated he will return, but that could draft with a projection from the draft advisory board. First-round.
26. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington*
NFL Comparison: Jason Witten
Where He Wins: Inline target who has the movement skills to play detached in the slot. Willing to block and improving in that area, even at the second level. Absorbs contact at the catch point, strong in that area. Not a quick twitch athlete, short catches usually stay short, but very reliable in intermediate to downfield areas. Body control is excellent.
Where He Fits: Inline tight end that can move outside to take advantage of receiving options.
Draft Projection: Top-50.
27. DE Vic Beasley, Clemson*
NFL Comparison: Bruce Irvin with less movement skills
Where He Wins: Displays a great get off and bend. Finds contact through his hands from a five technique spot, extends to strafe along the line then close on the outside. Also used as a stand up rusher at times, getting quick depth in the backfield thanks to speed.
Where He Fits: Has experience as a right defensive end, but his best projection is likely as a stand up edge rusher.
Draft Projection: First-round.
28. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M**
NFL Comparison: Tony Romo
Where He Wins: Wearing down defenses with tempo. A master of broken plays. Stretches teams laterally with his feet. Forces defenses to match up with quick passes followed by elongated plays with little time to rest in between.
Where He Fits: Has shown development from the pocket, but could thrive in a creative system. Thrives on broken plays. Drops his eye level, but can magically find open space and available passing lanes to connect on ridiculous completions. Will test tight single coverage. Gives his receiver a shot. Can also be a quick decision maker, which is key to Air Raid. Has made more throws outside the numbers and downfield this season. Obviously extremely mobile.
Draft Projection: Top-10.
29. RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin**
NFL Comparison: Jamaal Charles
Where He Wins: One cut back with great vision. Has excellent long speed, but breaks more tackles than many other lean backs thanks to balance. Displays great vision and decisive running style from an I formation or on jet sweeps.
Where He Fits: Despite playing in a committee attack at Wisocnsin, Gordon can claim a lead ball carrying role in the NFL.
Draft Projection: Lack of pass protection attempts and success will likely keep him out of the first-round. Top-40.
30. LB Telvin Smith, FSU
NFL Comparison: Danny Trevathan
Where He Wins: Ridiculous closing speed. Run and chase backer who is improving at fighting through trash. Has all the athleticism necessary to be a solid contributor in nickel situations. Finishes with force.
Where He Fits: Likely a weakside backer behind a four man front but could make most of his money in nickel situations.
Draft Projection: Third-round.
31. WR Odell Beckham Jr., LSU*
NFL Comparison: Santonio Holmes
Where He Wins: Despite sub-5’11 size, he dominates at the catch point. Easily climbs the ladder with great timing and strong hands to win in contested situations. Add on good vertical speed, fluid fleet to break routes off, and a willingness to work back towards the quarterback. Willing blocker.
Where He Fits: Outside receiver, unless a team wants to work him in trash over the field to high point.
Draft Projection: Top-40, but he could go much, much higher.
32. WR Jarvis Landry, LSU*
NFL Comparison: A compact Brandon Marshall.
Where He Wins: Goes up and gets it at the highest point. Will win in tight coverage by creating a sliver of separation at the last moments. Good straight-line speed. The combination makes him a very good downfield receiver.
Where He Fits: Outside target that can make a home in the intermediate to downfield levels.
Draft Projection: Top-40, but he could go much, much higher.
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Next four: T Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame*, DB Lamarcus Joyner, FSU, T/G La’El Collins, LSU*.
Next Tier of QBs: Clemson’s Tajh Boyd, LSU’s Zach Mettenberger, UCLA’s Brett Hundley**, Miami’s Stephen Morris, Fresno State’s Derek Carr.
NFL Draft Prospects: Top-32Thursday, October 24, 2013
1. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville*
NFL Comparison: Russell Wilson, but three inches taller.
Where He Wins: Excellent pocket movement. Bounces off his back foot to step up against edge pressure and isn’t afraid to slide laterally when faced with an interior rush. Keeps eyes up to survey coverages and works to multiple reads. Placement and touch are there, but has the velocity to hit vertical routes on the move. Not afraid to give a covered receiver in single coverage a chance to win. Reports have stated he takes care of many checks at the line of scrimmage.
Where He Fits: He fits any offense. Sustains success from the pocket but also has mobility which isn’t showcased often. Hits every level with placement and timing.
2014 Draft Projection: No. 1 or 2 pick.
2. QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon**
NFL Comparison: A more refined Colin Kaepernick out of Nevada.
Where He Wins: Does not get enough credit for his success in the pocket. Quick decision maker on short to intermediate routes, which is exactly what up-tempo offenses need. Not afraid to shift off that first read, reset, and fire to another target while inside or outside of the pocket. Placement is improving and obviously has the velocity to hit any throw on a rope. He offers a read option/zone read element as well.
Where He Fits: Has plenty of experience in an up-tempo offense, but his pocket skills will translate for any team. Creativity will help use his talents in the best way.
Draft Projection: No. 1 or 2 pick.
3. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina*
NFL Comparison: Uses a J.J. Watt like swim move, athleticism might be Julius Peppers-esque.
Where He Wins: Predominantly lines up at right defensive end in a three-point stance as a five, seven, or nine technique. His explosion off the snap is ridiculous, gaining an instant advantage against his competition. Obviously the swarming wingspan and closing speed is there, and he enjoys finishing hits with force. Has frequently taken the inside line this year, likely due to the shorter distance to the backfield. Loves to utilize an arm over swim and athletic footwork is on displays when avoiding cut blocks. Loops inside with ease. A rare power and speed athlete.
Where He Fits: Most experience in a four man front, but his talent could be used in any defensive scheme.
Draft Projection: The first non-QB off the board. Top-5 pick.
Extended Evaluation
4. Pass rushing OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA
NFL Comparison: Athleticism could be similar to Bruce Irvin.
Where He Wins: The lightning-quick pass rusher is able to gain an advantage on the edge and keep it thanks to his burst off the line, ability to cut off either foot towards the quarterback, and flexibility to bend around the corner. He closes distances quickly, which can be effective from a variety of alignments, and Barr is a punishing finisher.
Where He Fits: Experience as a stand up rusher next to a three man front. Able to loop inside.
Draft Projection: Top-5 selection. Has a chance to be drafted over Clowney.
Extended Evaluation
5. T Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
NFL Comparison: Jordan Gross
Where He Wins: Doesn’t sit back and wait, finds contact through his hands and is an aggressive blocker. Obtains inside hand positioning and adjusts if necessary. Athletic feet to keep proper shoulder alignment, which prevents bending from the waist. Displays ability to bend at the knee to absorb and redirect. Sets up cut blocks and drives through with force. Moving from right to left tackle.
Where He Fits: Has experience and played at a high level at left or right tackle.
Draft Projection: The top offensive tackle off the board. Top-10.
6. LB C.J. Mosley, Alabama
NFL Comparison: Sean Lee
Where He Wins: Very little wasted movement. Lines up as inside linebacker behind three and four man fronts. Has so much range, chases down athletic quarterbacks to the edge. Same range is visible in pass coverage. Contacts crossing routes and keeps footwork to sustain and trail. Works over top of blocks with quick steps. Keeps nice vision at the second level by strafing then attacks uphill. Will finish tackles.
Where He Fits: Has transitioned from a coverage linebacker to the complete package. Scheme versatile at inside linebacker. Could potentially see time on the weakside.
Draft Projection: Very dependent on how teams react to his injury history. Top-20.
7. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson*
NFL Comparison: The current Torrey Smith.
Where He Wins: The combination of burst and smooth movements in and out of his breaks or after catch moves is great. Hands catcher away from his body. An explosive player with the ball in his hands, gets up to high gear very quickly. Will go across the middle and catch passes in tight windows. Cuts routes off very quickly. Has balance to stay up beyond first defender. Wins from slot or outside.
Where He Fits: Will help in a variety of ways, including yards after the catch, vertical routes, and in the return game.
Draft Projection: Expected to be the first receiver off the board, unless a team goes for a taller target who specializes winning at the catch point. Top-10.
8. S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama*
NFL Comparison: Reshad Jones
Where He Wins: Has excellent length for the position. Controlled aggressiveness when closing towards the line of scrimmage. Not a watcher, he gets in the action. Reads run and reacts quickly, even from single high. Has seen time from free or strong safety. Capable in playing man and zone situations, either near or off the line of scrimmage. A really, really good safety.
Where He Fits: A likely interchangeable safety that can play near the line of scrimmage or in the deep half.
Draft Projection: Top-15 selection.
9. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State*
NFL Comparison: Lavonte David, but with more length. What many want Alec Ogletree to be.
Where He Wins: Long and lean. Projects to weakside linebacker. His speed to the edge is excellent. There are some wasted movements when working the backside, but once the target and ally are located he gets there in a hurry. Zone drops are smooth. Asked to blitz from inside and on the edge. Takes tight angles into the backfield on edge runs.
Where He Fits: Likely as a weakside linebacker who will stay on in nickel situations.
Draft Projection: First-round.
10. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo
NFL Comparison: Akeem Ayers
Where He Wins: Displays a unique combination of size and strength. Has quickness to get underneath an offensive lineman’s pads and then use his strength to drive that lineman into the backfield. Controls run blockers, maintaining outside leverage and resetting the line of scrimmage. Has enough athleticism to be a factor in coverage and can avoid cut blocks.
Where He Fits: As a stand up weakside pass rusher alongside a three man line or could play a strong side linebacker in a 4-3 under.
Draft Projection: Has off-field question stemming from a suspension, but likely top-20 pick.
Fulton: Mack vs. Miller
11. DT Dominique Easley, Florida
NFL Comparison: Jay Ratliff or Earl Mitchell
Where He Wins: Easley’s success inside compared to when on the edge is a no contest. His quickness to force his opposition off balance or shoot face up gaps causes instant disruption, displaying active hands to keep separation and a forward momentum. He impacts games when gaining promising positioning.
Where He Fits: Everywhere. Has experience as a five technique end but thrived in a one or zero technique role this season. Could be a disrupting, upfield nose tackle.
Draft Projection: This is difficult. Easley is a top-10 talent but has two ACL tears to his name on opposite knees. Played at a high level this season after the first one. I still think top-40, like Cornelius “Tank” Carradine.
Extended Evaluation
12. DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame*
NFL Comparison: Flashes of Vince Wilfork
Where He Wins: Lines up as a nose tackle or shade in a three man front. Can work over top of a block and create penetration at the same time. Stops momentum very quickly and changes direction well for a big man. Has the leg drive to penetrate face up and strength to shed it close spaces. Can disrupt the run upfield or hold his spot with anchor versus the run. Has some Vince Wilfork to him.
Where He Fits: Likely a one or zero shade in a three man front, but don’t rule him out of four man fronts.
Draft Projection: Has been a letdown at times this season, but likely top-32.
13. CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State*
NFL Comparison: Jason McCourty
Where He Wins: Attacks the jam or blocking receiver, frequently gets into the action. Will play off or press man coverage, attacks the catch point by cutting in front of the target. Even plays on special teams. Trails in close distances and prevents the sliver of separation at the catch point. Makes things difficult on the opposition.
Where He Fits: Not locked into one side of the field. Likely better in press due to physical nature, but shows he can attack and drive in off coverage.
Draft Projection: Poor performance against Jared Abbrederis, but likely top-20.
14. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech*
NFL Comparison: Does some Jimmy Graham-like things, but more along the lines of what many want Vance McDonald to be.
Where He Wins: A matchup nightmare. Uses his frame against corners and safeties to gain a positional advantage. Can do the same with safeties while creating space with fluid routes. An easy mover against linebackers. Has always been a willing blocker in space, but he has added an inline blocking element to his game. Getting stronger at the catch point when climbing the ladder. Presents some yards after catch skills.
Where He Fits: A receiving tight end in 12 personnel. Can play out on the edge, in the slot, and has added an inline blocking element to his game.
Draft Projection: Mentioned he would return for his senior season, but that could change in January. Suffered a major injury in 2012. I expect a top-32 selection.
15. CB Jason Verrett, TCU
NFL Comparison: Stephon Gilmore
Where He Wins: Active player who doesn’t wait to react. Keeps close trailing distance and makes tackles for a loss on crossing routes by forcing receivers back. Quick in his movements once diagnosing and locating. Has great vision, baits quarterbacks from off man with success. Coverage versatile. Hides blitz very well.
Where He Fits: Plays a lot of off coverage, but that doesn’t mean he lacks physical play. Tends to play boundary (short) side.
Draft Projection: First-round.
16. T Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama*
NFL Comparison: Trent Williams
Where He Wins: Does occasionally bend at the waist but is athletic enough to recover and regain balance. Best when keeping separation thanks to great length. Can get a bit short in his drops, but again, has the athletic lower half to react and keep positioning. Better in pass protection than run blocking.
Where He Fits: Likelyleft tackle but could start on the right side as well. The two aren’t so different anymore.
Draft Projection: Has shown weaknesses this season, mainly in the form of overextension or slow feet off the snap, but talent is there. Top-20.
17. WR Marqise Lee, USC*
NFL Comparison: Reggie Wayne
Where He Wins: Long, lean strider. Best as a straight-line receiver. Doesn't mind chipping the edge when in motion or finishing off runs with low shoulder. Obvious burst of quickness in first or second step, then it builds after that. Lines up in the slot and outside, smooth runner in his breaks to avoid contact. Frequently sent in motion. Hands catcher. Can make people miss in the open field, but doesn't have outstanding lateral agility.
Where He Fits: Likely outside receiver who gets vertical with fluid routes and long speed. Can easily peel back patterns and create separation when working towards the quarterback.
Draft Projection: Has dealt with injuries, drops, and bad quarterback play this year. Still a top-40 selection.
18. DE Aaron Lynch, USF*
NFL Comparison: Aldon Smith
Where He Wins: Very quick movements in tight spaces. Looked lean in 2011 and has lost weight since, which has made things interesting. Turns poor positioning into positive situations with length and foot speed. Plays high but lifts and shrugs to create leverage. If technique and pad level work out, watch out.
Where He Fits: If frame stays the same, he could be a stand up rusher next to a three man line with the ability to close off the edge, use length, and loop back inside.
Draft Projection: Lynch is noticeably still rusty, but the talent didn’t just disappear. Top-40.
19. DT Will Sutton, Arizona State
NFL Comparison: La’Roi Glover
Where He Wins: Sutton takes advantage of space. Whether it be shooting past reach blocks in the sliver of time afforded to him thanks to an animated first step and forward lean, or hand use and quick feet to generate that separation on his own, Sutton finishes with closing speed. His flexibility to bend and gain positive positioning is tough to find.
Where He Fits: Likely as a three technique in a four man front, could play some one in pass rushing situations.
Draft Projection: Too much has been made about his added weight. He isn’t a different player. The foundation of Sutton’s game was never quickness, it was leverage and technical hand use. Still, he will get knocked of lack of size or added weight. Top-64.
Extended Evaluation
20. TE Eric Ebron, UNC*
NFL Comparison: A physical Jared Cook Jr.
Where He Wins: An outstanding straight-line athlete with some bend/flexibility for his size. Will stretch defenses and then cut his route back to the quarterback. Presents a big target and can separate after the catch. Improving consistency at the catch point and a willing blocker.
Where He Fits: An inline option who can be split out to matchup with different defenders.
Draft Projection: Top-25.
21. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
NFL Comparison: Aqib Talib
Where He Wins: An extremely physical corner who loves to press at the line of scrimmage. Frequently patient with his jam, not overextending but rather allowing the receiver to enter contact area. Rides inside hip downfield while sustaining position. Hand fights and flips his head quickly when receiver looks back for the football at the top of their route.
Where He Fits: Press corner or a few yards off on the edge. Will be physical in run support. Matches up at the catch point in contested situations which is critical.
Draft Projection: Might run a slow forty, which will lead to overreaction. Top-40.
22. T Taylor Lewan, Michigan
NFL Comparison: Sebastian Vollmer
Where He Wins: Wide stance, wants to find contact through his hands. Has an aggressive mentality, but that can get him in trouble. Even if positioning is off balance, his strong base helps anchor and stop momentum. Better run blocker than pass protector, but wins when gaining a latch in either situation. Asked to pull inside and lead blocks well.
Where He Fits: Could see him on the left or right side.
Draft Projection: Obviously the NFL values offensive tackles. Possible top-15 selection.
23. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M*
NFL Comparison: Vincent Jackson
Where He Wins: Absolutely dominant at the catch point. Wins on the edge with long speed, excellent body control, strong hands, and high pointing ability. When he is covered he is still open. Winning in these situations might be more important than separation at the NFL level.
Where He Fits: Outside receiver with a quarterback who is not afraid to test tight single coverage.
Draft Projection: First-round and would not be shocked if he is the first receiver off the board. Slow test times could hurt.
24. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State*
NFL Comparison: Victor Cruz
Where He Wins: An explosive receiver that wins at every level of the field. Can take short passes for long gains after creating even more separation. Creates space on intermediate patterns. Tracks vertical passes exceptionally well. Takes the top off coverages. Has a large catch radius for someone his size.
Where He Fits: Some might only see a slot receiver, but he’s an accomplished edge target as well.
Draft Projection: Top-50.
24. CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Oregon*
NFL Comparison: Brandon Flowers
Where He Wins: Won’t always engage blockers but will attack full speed when lining up ball carriers in the open field. Attempts to disrupt catch point when receiver high points target. Top end closing speed. Mirrors in tight man coverage but also displays press bail skills.
Where He Fits: Experience as field side corner, so can play either half.
Draft Projection: First-round.
25. T Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M*
NFL Comparison: Tyron Smith
Where He Wins: Outstanding length with footwork to mirror. Does not possess the strongest punch, but he bends in all the right places (knee, ankles). Finds contact through his hands, obtains a latch, and keeps his opposition under control. Understands to ride edge rushers around the pocket and inside armbar prevents a shorter distance on inside rush.
Where He Fits: Has experience at guard and right tackle, but he is more than capable to play left tackle in the NFL.
Draft Projection: Has stated he will return, but that could draft with a projection from the draft advisory board. First-round.
26. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington*
NFL Comparison: Jason Witten
Where He Wins: Inline target who has the movement skills to play detached in the slot. Willing to block and improving in that area, even at the second level. Absorbs contact at the catch point, strong in that area. Not a quick twitch athlete, short catches usually stay short, but very reliable in intermediate to downfield areas. Body control is excellent.
Where He Fits: Inline tight end that can move outside to take advantage of receiving options.
Draft Projection: Top-50.
27. DE Vic Beasley, Clemson*
NFL Comparison: Bruce Irvin with less movement skills
Where He Wins: Displays a great get off and bend. Finds contact through his hands from a five technique spot, extends to strafe along the line then close on the outside. Also used as a stand up rusher at times, getting quick depth in the backfield thanks to speed.
Where He Fits: Has experience as a right defensive end, but his best projection is likely as a stand up edge rusher.
Draft Projection: First-round.
28. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M**
NFL Comparison: Tony Romo
Where He Wins: Wearing down defenses with tempo. A master of broken plays. Stretches teams laterally with his feet. Forces defenses to match up with quick passes followed by elongated plays with little time to rest in between.
Where He Fits: Has shown development from the pocket, but could thrive in a creative system. Thrives on broken plays. Drops his eye level, but can magically find open space and available passing lanes to connect on ridiculous completions. Will test tight single coverage. Gives his receiver a shot. Can also be a quick decision maker, which is key to Air Raid. Has made more throws outside the numbers and downfield this season. Obviously extremely mobile.
Draft Projection: Top-10.
29. RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin**
NFL Comparison: Jamaal Charles
Where He Wins: One cut back with great vision. Has excellent long speed, but breaks more tackles than many other lean backs thanks to balance. Displays great vision and decisive running style from an I formation or on jet sweeps.
Where He Fits: Despite playing in a committee attack at Wisocnsin, Gordon can claim a lead ball carrying role in the NFL.
Draft Projection: Lack of pass protection attempts and success will likely keep him out of the first-round. Top-40.
30. LB Telvin Smith, FSU
NFL Comparison: Danny Trevathan
Where He Wins: Ridiculous closing speed. Run and chase backer who is improving at fighting through trash. Has all the athleticism necessary to be a solid contributor in nickel situations. Finishes with force.
Where He Fits: Likely a weakside backer behind a four man front but could make most of his money in nickel situations.
Draft Projection: Third-round.
31. WR Odell Beckham Jr., LSU*
NFL Comparison: Santonio Holmes
Where He Wins: Despite sub-5’11 size, he dominates at the catch point. Easily climbs the ladder with great timing and strong hands to win in contested situations. Add on good vertical speed, fluid fleet to break routes off, and a willingness to work back towards the quarterback. Willing blocker.
Where He Fits: Outside receiver, unless a team wants to work him in trash over the field to high point.
Draft Projection: Top-40, but he could go much, much higher.
32. WR Jarvis Landry, LSU*
NFL Comparison: A compact Brandon Marshall.
Where He Wins: Goes up and gets it at the highest point. Will win in tight coverage by creating a sliver of separation at the last moments. Good straight-line speed. The combination makes him a very good downfield receiver.
Where He Fits: Outside target that can make a home in the intermediate to downfield levels.
Draft Projection: Top-40, but he could go much, much higher.
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Next four: T Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame*, DB Lamarcus Joyner, FSU, T/G La’El Collins, LSU*.
Next Tier of QBs: Clemson’s Tajh Boyd, LSU’s Zach Mettenberger, UCLA’s Brett Hundley**, Miami’s Stephen Morris, Fresno State’s Derek Carr.
EBF
Footballguy
That's a lot of skill players in the first round. Not sure we'll be that lucky.
I've always liked Beckham, but LSU fans make a lot of negative comments about his hands.
Given that he's on the short side and prone to easy drops, I think he's a lot more likely to be a 2nd rounder than a 1st when all is said and done.
I've always liked Beckham, but LSU fans make a lot of negative comments about his hands.
Given that he's on the short side and prone to easy drops, I think he's a lot more likely to be a 2nd rounder than a 1st when all is said and done.
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karmarooster
Footballguy
Is there a general consensus that 2015 represents a stronger class than 2014?
If so, is that a top to bottom difference (e.g. A deeper class) or at the top (e.g. Better early picks as compared to this year) or both? And are there a handful of identifiable players on the horizon that are future studs -- maybe Yeldon and/or Gurly?
If so, is that a top to bottom difference (e.g. A deeper class) or at the top (e.g. Better early picks as compared to this year) or both? And are there a handful of identifiable players on the horizon that are future studs -- maybe Yeldon and/or Gurly?
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Todd Gurley is my favorite RB prospect in some time. At least on par with Trent (at the time). Add Cooper, Davis, Yeldon, Drake, etc, and I do think 2015 is stronger. At least more top heavy.
Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
Predicting the relative quality of a current draft class in October is pretty damn tough, yet alone trying to predict the relative quality of a draft class 1-2 years from now. You'll always find people in your league who are infatuated with players in any current draft class, so I'd wait til much closer to draft time before trading away any current rookie picks.
Xue
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
I think a lot of people would say that 2015 is stronger, but I don't know if that's actually true.
2014 is shaping up to be a really nice class. I think Ebron is an animal at TE and I'd tentatively rank Seastrunk over any 2015 RB. Where I think you'll see the biggest gap is at WR. When the dust settles and the picks are in, I would not be surprised to see 5 first round WRs this year. Watkins, Lee, and Evans are already projected that high by most mocks. I think Allen Robinson will have a decent case for being a late 1st if he has a good combine. He's not really the workout warrior type, but he's a ballplayer and he's in the midst of a monster season. There's a lot of upside since he'll only be 20 years old when training camps start next summer. I also think Donte Moncrief could squeeze in there with a convincing pro day. He's got a few little issues, but there's an interesting toolbox there for a team to work with. He's a big target who really gets off the line well and would be a great fit for someone like the Steelers who value vertical receivers.
I have what's looking like a top 2-3 dev pick with the whole 2015 class in the pool and I'm not really that blown away by the talent. Gurley and Yeldon look like 1st round backs and that's nice, but I'm not sold that they're difference-maker NFL talents just yet. Cooper looks more like a late 1st-2nd than dominant force. Diggs is a nice player, but not the biggest target. Green-Beckham is looking more and more like a recruiting disappointment. I like Ebron > Funchess at TE and I'm not seeing too many people outside of Winston who really look like the next big thing. So while it's still very early, I would actually rather have a pick in 2014.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Trying to gauge which up and coming draft class is better than the other is difficult because 9 times out of 10 the Jrs that declare are better than the Srs. So it depends on the Jrs and redshirt sophs that declare for the draft but both classes seem to be strong today. Another thing that takes place that you absolutely can't account for are those players that pop out of nowhere and produce outstanding numbers.
Tex
ETA: Agree with the posters that have answered the question.
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Faust
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Big Board: Big matchups reveal future stars, prospects' flaws
by Rob Rang | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
Oct. 25, 2013 2:51 PM ET
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Oct. 25, 2013 2:51 PM ET
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I just have a feeling the measurables aren't going to back up what some people see in him. Me, I haven't decided either way yet.
ZWK
Footballguy
Peshek has added Ka'Deem Carey and Antonio Andrews to the elusiveness comparison, and is now including the per-carry average for Yards After Contact Capped at 15 yards:
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Player Btk% YaC CappedMelvin Gordon 12.5% 2.95Antonio Andrews 8.7% 2.92KaDeem Carey 6.7% 2.88Lache Seastrunk 11.1% 2.74Bishop Sankey 7.0% 2.48werdnoynek
Footballguy
r0llin_game
Footballguy
They keep listing Jordan Matthews as a WR from South Carolina, not Vanderbilt.
Penguin
Footballguy
No way I could see myself drafting Sankey over Seastrunk or Gordan at this time. My opinion might change between now and August but right now I couldn't pull the trigger on him as the 1st or 2nd RB.
lyon812
Footballguy
Seastrunk reminds me of McCoy with his ability to plant his foot and change direction. He cuts on a dime while maintaining good power to break tackles. In the offseason there were reports about Seastrunk really taking things seriously in terms of discipline and training, and he put on a lot of muscle without it slowing him down a bit. I think all of this is extremely positive and I can't see anyone knocking him out of the #1 spot.
Xue
Footballguy
I see a lot of McCoy comparisons for Seastrunk, but they are totally different builds. This isn't meant to be a slight, but, in terms of build and movement skills, Seastrunk reminds mostly of Jerome Harrison and JJ Arrington.
Evans reminds me of a taller Michael Floyd. He doesn't look any slower than Jeffery, though, who looks lumbering at times and rarely "separates" 1-on-1.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
