Um, I own Peterson, it is not like the news of the injury is secret. The recovery time and how fully he will recover is unknown. What would I get for him at this point in time for a player many view as damaged goods? Considering he is now at fire sale prices, he is a hold.Just curious if all the AP, Charles, and Best owners are planning to do this off-season with your stud #1 RBs. Do you hold in hopes they might bounce back? Do you trade as quickly as possible?
Charles owner here. I kept him rostered all this year, so in my 2 running back keeper League I will keep him along with Rice. With KC passing game being improved in 2012, I see him as a 1/2 round pick in 2012.Detroit-they still have LeShore so Best is toast IMO.Best should not even be in this conversation - DROP him A) He is not very goodB) He has already been replaced by a Better Player (K. Smith) C) The Lions will almost certainly be looking for their future RB this off-seasonD) Best is one inevitable concussion away from retirementAP - you have to bite the bullet for a year. If you are lucky you can get the 2nd half of next season out of him but probably at 70 - 80%. Hold or TradeJC - Should be back at close to 80 - 90% by the start of next season - Hold
I own Kevin Smith in 2 Dynasty leagues. I have very little interest in Best. If someone offered him to me, about the "best" I'd be willing to part with would be an early 2nd round rookie pick. He's just got way too many unknowns to be worth a 1st round rookie pick. His injury history is troubling. The Lions drafted LeShoure to use in, at least, a RBBC with Best and now Kevin Smith is back in the picture. Who knows what will happen in 2012 with the Detroit running game and whether they end up with a clear #1 or a three-headed monster.As a Kevin Smith owner, I'm actually hoping he plays out the rest of this year and then looks at offers in the off-season (he just turned 25 and he's only signed to a 1 year deal). I'd love to see him consider alternatives like Cleveland, Cincinnati, St. Louis, or even Atlanta (Quizz is dynamic but he's not an every down back).What picks would it take for you to moveAP?Charles?Best?I'm not going to try and move Charles. And I think even with AP's injury, I wouldn't move him unless it was a top 3 rookie pick? Best I'd probably want a mid 1st. Does that sound about right?
That's ridiculous, no one in there right mind would give the 1.04 for best after his health issues. One more concussion and he's done. The top 4/5 picks are worth a ton more then Best.. Also just traded Best off for the 1.04 pick. .
Depending on roster sizes, the values in the rookie/FA draft diminish quickly. I probably won't even use my 1st in my dynasty league, unless I get creative with a package deal.That's ridiculous, no one in there right mind would give the 1.04 for best after his health issues. One more concussion and he's done. The top 4/5 picks are worth a ton more then Best.. Also just traded Best off for the 1.04 pick. .
Now is this the same LeShore who has never played a down in the NFL due to ....wait for it...injury? I own the rights to LeShore, but if I was looking for a durable RB after suffering through Best's injuries I don't know if a guy who couldn't even make it through preseason is an obvious choice.'robb said:Charles owner here. I kept him rostered all this year, so in my 2 running back keeper League I will keep him along with Rice. With KC passing game being improved in 2012, I see him as a 1/2 round pick in 2012.Detroit-they still have LeShore so Best is toast IMO.'qimqam said:Best should not even be in this conversation - DROP him
A) He is not very good
B) He has already been replaced by a Better Player (K. Smith)
C) The Lions will almost certainly be looking for their future RB this off-season
D) Best is one inevitable concussion away from retirement
AP - you have to bite the bullet for a year. If you are lucky you can get the 2nd half of next season out of him but probably at 70 - 80%. Hold or Trade
JC - Should be back at close to 80 - 90% by the start of next season - Hold
I'd consider trading Peterson for a top 4 pick. Top 3 would get him easily. I don't see those offers coming, so I suspect I'll keep him and hope he's ready for the 2012 FF playoffs.'moderated said:That's ridiculous, no one in there right mind would give the 1.04 for best after his health issues. One more concussion and he's done. The top 4/5 picks are worth a ton more then Best.'Andrew74 said:. Also just traded Best off for the 1.04 pick. .
I know how you feel. My team is in moirning right now.'noneother said:I've owned Peterson his whole career. Prolly will just ride him out until he calls it quits.
I don't own AP, and I'm curious about the following:1. How he is valued for dynasty going forward and what it would take to get him in a trade at this point.2. What to expect from him next season... even if he starts the season on the PUP, is it reasonable to think he will play after that? How well could he be playing by the time of next season's fantasy playoffs?'Terpman22 said:AP might be a guy to get rid of now. It would take a high draft pick as well, but he is a lock to miss the first 6 weeks on PUP next year and maybe some more time. If you are a high powered dynasty team with some extra draft picks and good depth, AP might be a good buy-low candidate right now.
I think you have to hold on Charles and Best.. But I think AP will hold his value and could still be moved for a fair price..'BeTheMatch said:I don't think Best qualifies as a "stud #1 RB,"
I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
Not if I knew that the owner had to move him, I would grind him out. As far as Bagel's concerns: you got the use of ADP for a brunt of his usable life and when you have to move him he leaves as damaged goods; would you rather have him leave your team as a star, or do you have to squeeze every single drop of value out of him by trying for a king's ransom in a trade? I look at your situation as a good Karma one (not that ADP being injured is good Karma), leave some value for the next guy.I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
I just don't think Best will be use as much as he has been in the past. LeShoure is coming back from a major injury, but *if* he can get healthy I think they envision him in the between the tackles role with Best handling a smaller workload. Added to that is the potential that his career could end with his next concussion and he is someone I wouldn't want to depend on at all. I had Best in one league and ended up trading him before he was officially put on IR for what turned out to be the 2.03 pick. A couple of guys in the league thought I sold low and that may be true but I just don't want the bother of him on my team. I'd still sell him for a 2nd. Peterson and Charles I'd probably hold.Best puts up a ton of fantasy points. He works in that offense pretty well too. I see a good deal of bagging on him here though. Is it the injury? Or that you don't think he will score points when healthy?
A 1.3 rookie pick isn't a lot to pay really... Sure it's a lot compared to rookie picks, but the 1.3 = around a 3.6 - 4.6 in a start up draft. I expect AP will go somewhere around there in startups if not better..Not if I knew that the owner had to move him, I would grind him out. As far as Bagel's concerns: you got the use of ADP for a brunt of his usable life and when you have to move him he leaves as damaged goods; would you rather have him leave your team as a star, or do you have to squeeze every single drop of value out of him by trying for a king's ransom in a trade? I look at your situation as a good Karma one (not that ADP being injured is good Karma), leave some value for the next guy.I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
Not all years are created equal. Richardson looks to grade out as high as Peterson did when he came out. Luck is probably the most coveted QB coming out since Peyton Manning. When a handful of teams try to move up to the top 3 in the NFL draft to get RG3, his value is dynasty circles will be high too. Blackmon was likely a top 10 NFL draft pick last year. He'll likely go top 5 this year. That's an exceptional top end of the rookie draft this year.A 1.3 rookie pick isn't a lot to pay really... Sure it's a lot compared to rookie picks, but the 1.3 = around a 3.6 - 4.6 in a start up draft. I expect AP will go somewhere around there in startups if not better..Not if I knew that the owner had to move him, I would grind him out. As far as Bagel's concerns: you got the use of ADP for a brunt of his usable life and when you have to move him he leaves as damaged goods; would you rather have him leave your team as a star, or do you have to squeeze every single drop of value out of him by trying for a king's ransom in a trade? I look at your situation as a good Karma one (not that ADP being injured is good Karma), leave some value for the next guy.I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.
What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?
At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
Kit's post is closer to my feelings; the top 3-4 guys in the rookie draft hold some promise (isn't it always the case), after that those picks are crap shoots and I usually pick up an existing non-roster-ed 2nd or 3rd year guy.Not all years are created equal. Richardson looks to grade out as high as Peterson did when he came out. Luck is probably the most coveted QB coming out since Peyton Manning. When a handful of teams try to move up to the top 3 in the NFL draft to get RG3, his value is dynasty circles will be high too. Blackmon was likely a top 10 NFL draft pick last year. He'll likely go top 5 this year. That's an exceptional top end of the rookie draft this year.A 1.3 rookie pick isn't a lot to pay really... Sure it's a lot compared to rookie picks, but the 1.3 = around a 3.6 - 4.6 in a start up draft. I expect AP will go somewhere around there in startups if not better..Not if I knew that the owner had to move him, I would grind him out. As far as Bagel's concerns: you got the use of ADP for a brunt of his usable life and when you have to move him he leaves as damaged goods; would you rather have him leave your team as a star, or do you have to squeeze every single drop of value out of him by trying for a king's ransom in a trade? I look at your situation as a good Karma one (not that ADP being injured is good Karma), leave some value for the next guy.I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.
What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?
At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
Dynasty league that allows a limited number of college (devy) players.• Team A gave up Turner, Michael ATL RB;* Floyd, Michael FA WR; Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team C (1.7) • Team B gave up Peterson, Adrian MIN RBI don't own AP, and I'm curious about the following:1. How he is valued for dynasty going forward and what it would take to get him in a trade at this point.2. What to expect from him next season... even if he starts the season on the PUP, is it reasonable to think he will play after that? How well could he be playing by the time of next season's fantasy playoffs?'Terpman22 said:AP might be a guy to get rid of now. It would take a high draft pick as well, but he is a lock to miss the first 6 weeks on PUP next year and maybe some more time. If you are a high powered dynasty team with some extra draft picks and good depth, AP might be a good buy-low candidate right now.
I don't think any of those 3 promise to be worth more than AP.. They are potential studs, AP is proven stud..Kit's post is closer to my feelings; the top 3-4 guys in the rookie draft hold some promise (isn't it always the case), after that those picks are crap shoots and I usually pick up an existing non-roster-ed 2nd or 3rd year guy.Not all years are created equal. Richardson looks to grade out as high as Peterson did when he came out. Luck is probably the most coveted QB coming out since Peyton Manning. When a handful of teams try to move up to the top 3 in the NFL draft to get RG3, his value is dynasty circles will be high too. Blackmon was likely a top 10 NFL draft pick last year. He'll likely go top 5 this year. That's an exceptional top end of the rookie draft this year.A 1.3 rookie pick isn't a lot to pay really... Sure it's a lot compared to rookie picks, but the 1.3 = around a 3.6 - 4.6 in a start up draft. I expect AP will go somewhere around there in startups if not better..Not if I knew that the owner had to move him, I would grind him out. As far as Bagel's concerns: you got the use of ADP for a brunt of his usable life and when you have to move him he leaves as damaged goods; would you rather have him leave your team as a star, or do you have to squeeze every single drop of value out of him by trying for a king's ransom in a trade? I look at your situation as a good Karma one (not that ADP being injured is good Karma), leave some value for the next guy.I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.
What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?
At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
How much of a stud will AP be if he starts the season on the PUP list? It is hard to bank heavily on a guy who might not see the field till week 7.I don't think any of those 3 promise to be worth more than AP.. They are potential studs, AP is proven stud..Kit's post is closer to my feelings; the top 3-4 guys in the rookie draft hold some promise (isn't it always the case), after that those picks are crap shoots and I usually pick up an existing non-roster-ed 2nd or 3rd year guy.Not all years are created equal. Richardson looks to grade out as high as Peterson did when he came out. Luck is probably the most coveted QB coming out since Peyton Manning. When a handful of teams try to move up to the top 3 in the NFL draft to get RG3, his value is dynasty circles will be high too. Blackmon was likely a top 10 NFL draft pick last year. He'll likely go top 5 this year. That's an exceptional top end of the rookie draft this year.A 1.3 rookie pick isn't a lot to pay really... Sure it's a lot compared to rookie picks, but the 1.3 = around a 3.6 - 4.6 in a start up draft. I expect AP will go somewhere around there in startups if not better..Not if I knew that the owner had to move him, I would grind him out. As far as Bagel's concerns: you got the use of ADP for a brunt of his usable life and when you have to move him he leaves as damaged goods; would you rather have him leave your team as a star, or do you have to squeeze every single drop of value out of him by trying for a king's ransom in a trade? I look at your situation as a good Karma one (not that ADP being injured is good Karma), leave some value for the next guy.I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.
What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?
At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
AP was a proven stud. It's time to face the fact that his career is at a crossroads right now. 2012 will be his age 27 season, and I don't think you can realistically plan for starter quality numbers from him at any point. Cross your fingers for 2013.I don't think any of those 3 promise to be worth more than AP.. They are potential studs, AP is proven stud..Kit's post is closer to my feelings; the top 3-4 guys in the rookie draft hold some promise (isn't it always the case), after that those picks are crap shoots and I usually pick up an existing non-roster-ed 2nd or 3rd year guy.Not all years are created equal. Richardson looks to grade out as high as Peterson did when he came out. Luck is probably the most coveted QB coming out since Peyton Manning. When a handful of teams try to move up to the top 3 in the NFL draft to get RG3, his value is dynasty circles will be high too. Blackmon was likely a top 10 NFL draft pick last year. He'll likely go top 5 this year. That's an exceptional top end of the rookie draft this year.A 1.3 rookie pick isn't a lot to pay really... Sure it's a lot compared to rookie picks, but the 1.3 = around a 3.6 - 4.6 in a start up draft. I expect AP will go somewhere around there in startups if not better..Not if I knew that the owner had to move him, I would grind him out. As far as Bagel's concerns: you got the use of ADP for a brunt of his usable life and when you have to move him he leaves as damaged goods; would you rather have him leave your team as a star, or do you have to squeeze every single drop of value out of him by trying for a king's ransom in a trade? I look at your situation as a good Karma one (not that ADP being injured is good Karma), leave some value for the next guy.I think he's worth a 1.3. I'd do it..I'm in a horrible situation in that I have to move Peterson this offseason due to contract issues.
What are people thinking his value will be, let's say in terms of other RBs they'd trade away straight up for him?
At this point as a Peterson owner I'd take a top 3 rookie pick for him, though I doubt I'll get it.
Starter quality? Are you serious? It doesn't take much to be a top-24 RB. People really seem to be bailing on Peterson.'Kitrick Taylor said:AP was a proven stud. It's time to face the fact that his career is at a crossroads right now. 2012 will be his age 27 season, and I don't think you can realistically plan for starter quality numbers from him at any point. Cross your fingers for 2013.
In PPR leagues AP averaged 17.3 FP's per game. That's top 10 #'s... only 8 RB's had a better average. 4 of those 8 also ended the season on "IR"Of the 8 RB's with a better FF average, only 4 are playing through the end of the seasonFoster, Rice, McCoy, MJDIf you ask me, only the injury hinders his future #'s.. If everything works out with his knee surgery and rehab, he'll have no trouble keeping his current company in the top 10..The 3 guys you mention, have to potential to be top 10, but have not proven they could do so.. AP's value is miles ahead of theirs without the injury, only close because of the knee.. the 3rd pick in the rookie draft << Adrian Peterson.. But I'd agree that his age and the injury make your opinion a valid discussion..'Kitrick Taylor said:AP was a proven stud. It's time to face the fact that his career is at a crossroads right now. 2012 will be his age 27 season, and I don't think you can realistically plan for starter quality numbers from him at any point. Cross your fingers for 2013.
He was top 10 in my dynasty PPR before he got hurt. That's a stud to me.I own him in that league & can't get any value for him so he is a hold.I don't think Best qualifies as a "stud #1 RB," but in any event, I think you pretty much have to hold, because I can't see a situation where you'll get fair value.