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Im comin up on 6 monthsStill going since Feb 10.
Im comin up on 6 monthsStill going since Feb 10.
Yes, all mine are auto not manual so perhaps I should go that way.FYI: Seems like vapor 4 life's site is down?I don't think Diamond series comes in manual, so sounds like you buy automatics? If so, the autos I started out with were far less dependable than the manuals I now use exclusively. Neat technology with the autos, but not as true as hitting a button to make it fire. IMHO you sacrifice a lot in terms of immediate power and dependability with autos and that holds true for both the batteries and USB pass thrus in my experience. I'll never buy an automatic again after struggling with primer puffs and general maintenance BS with the autos. They just got weaker, and weaker.I don't religiously clean them but will try to every few weeks. I popped the center up a bit but that hasn't worked. On most of them when I inhale the light does light up but a few do not. When I try and charge them the LED doesn't flash at all. My newest one I bought less than a month ago (diamond tip) tastes awful when I try to inhale (chemical or burning taste with new cart) and when I try and charge the LED does not blink.ETA: I make sure and clean them from the holes to the inner ring of the cart so they are not dirty.
Thanks guys, I'm gonna go ahead and buy some Bloogs and see if there is a difference. Were using all Bloog cartos anyway so that may help in itself.I've bought 3 Bloogs so far: one crapped out after two months, its replacement is still going strong two months in and the other original is still very solid after 4 months of steady use. Anecdotally, it seems that the MaxxFusions draw cleaner than the regular Fusions.Subject to debate, and it's a small sample size, but I have had 2 V4L manuals crap out on me within a month (out of 2.) I have 4 Bloog autos all of which are still working perfectly (5 months old.) My brother bought a V4L manual and his crapped out after 3 weeks. he has 5 Bloogs, 1 died after 2 monthes, the others all still work (3 1/2 months old.) Results surely vary, but I find the Bloogs to be a better quality product. They do cost more though, and V4L has better sales and customer service.Now that you mention that, I also bought 2 manual batteries in March, and they are both still working fine. I don't like them as much(too much air comes in with each pull making them taste weaker to me). May try a couple more since each individual battery seems to work a bit differently than all others whether manual or auto. Are Bloog batteries any better? Haven't tried them as I assumed they were very similar to V4L.That explains a lot. I started with manuals just by chance, and am still using the original two I bought April 6 along with three others picked up a month after. Should do more cleaning than I do but don't take the time to play with them much--just reload and fire.I don't think Diamond series comes in manual, so sounds like you buy automatics? If so, the autos I started out with were far less dependable than the manuals I now use exclusively. Neat technology with the autos, but not as true as hitting a button to make it fire. IMHO you sacrifice a lot in terms of immediate power and dependability with autos and that holds true for both the batteries and USB pass thrus in my experience. I'll never buy an automatic again after struggling with primer puffs and general maintenance BS with the autos. They just got weaker, and weaker.I don't religiously clean them but will try to every few weeks. I popped the center up a bit but that hasn't worked. On most of them when I inhale the light does light up but a few do not. When I try and charge them the LED doesn't flash at all. My newest one I bought less than a month ago (diamond tip) tastes awful when I try to inhale (chemical or burning taste with new cart) and when I try and charge the LED does not blink.ETA: I make sure and clean them from the holes to the inner ring of the cart so they are not dirty.
Well, I've had extremely good success with manuals, but I think EG is right that opinions vary on it. I know others on here have had decent success with their autos and no doubt some have had their own iffy success testing manuals. One thing the struck me right off at the V4L forum was the segment who were strong opinioned in favor of manuals. I can see why with my own experience; as mentioned both my batteres and USB were noticeably stronger for me, but I think there is something true about batteries being good and bad right from the get go, and I think Wingnut and EG each had so-so experiences trying them (although as I recall EG noticed the added power initially before having his fizzle). I don't think it would hurt for you to test one yourself if you're not getting a lot from the autos you've bought.Yes, all mine are auto not manual so perhaps I should go that way.FYI: Seems like vapor 4 life's site is down?I don't think Diamond series comes in manual, so sounds like you buy automatics? If so, the autos I started out with were far less dependable than the manuals I now use exclusively. Neat technology with the autos, but not as true as hitting a button to make it fire. IMHO you sacrifice a lot in terms of immediate power and dependability with autos and that holds true for both the batteries and USB pass thrus in my experience. I'll never buy an automatic again after struggling with primer puffs and general maintenance BS with the autos. They just got weaker, and weaker.I don't religiously clean them but will try to every few weeks. I popped the center up a bit but that hasn't worked. On most of them when I inhale the light does light up but a few do not. When I try and charge them the LED doesn't flash at all. My newest one I bought less than a month ago (diamond tip) tastes awful when I try to inhale (chemical or burning taste with new cart) and when I try and charge the LED does not blink.ETA: I make sure and clean them from the holes to the inner ring of the cart so they are not dirty.
After a massive cleaning effort didn't help I'm down to one fully functional V4L battery. Some just kicked the bucket after a good 4 month run, some have become too tight to pull, some I've dropped, and some are intermittent at best. I'm trying the bloogs too. I'm also looking for an alternative to the Ikenvape cartos. I still think they are leaps and bounds better than the prefilled, but I notice that after the first fill they require constant adding of juice to keep them going strong...I add about 5 drops every night to my active cartos. Too many and they puddle and leak, but if I don't the vapor is nonexistent. Even though it holds 50 drops, the effective volume seems to be only 5-10 drops. Anyone tried a clearomizer?Thanks guys, I'm gonna go ahead and buy some Bloogs and see if there is a difference. Were using all Bloog cartos anyway so that may help in itself.
Just not going to happen. I don't think they really push chantix, the patch, snus, dip, gum, etc either. And most of those are considered safe by the medical/regulatory community. Ecigs are a long way from that. It will take years of study, and oversight by someone (FDA probably) before any established group would recommend them.Electronic cig guys, what's your thoughts on why more money isn't being spent by the anti-cigarette crowd on this alternative. Ideally yes everyone should quit smoking, but if these are a lot healthier, then realistically wouldn't that be worth some advert dollars.
Yup. The lack of FDA approval means no claims can be made that they are actually "safer" than cigarettes (even though its pretty obvious that they are). Approval, if it were to ever happen, would take years because of all the necessary study involved. We cant know long term effects without long-term studies. Nobody will get behind something that hasnt been proven safe.'lloyd christmas said:Just not going to happen. I don't think they really push chantix, the patch, snus, dip, gum, etc either. And most of those are considered safe by the medical/regulatory community. Ecigs are a long way from that. It will take years of study, and oversight by someone (FDA probably) before any established group would recommend them.'NutterButter said:Electronic cig guys, what's your thoughts on why more money isn't being spent by the anti-cigarette crowd on this alternative. Ideally yes everyone should quit smoking, but if these are a lot healthier, then realistically wouldn't that be worth some advert dollars.
Me too! Were Vaping anniversary buddies.I just got my batteries for my madvapes 5 volt box mod yesterday. I could believe it works. I was so excited when my voltage indicator lit up 5 volts. Pretty good for a first time build. Already I get the feeling 3.7 volts isn't enough anymore. It's a steal at 13 bucks for a mod.'Tecumseh said:5 months today.
Haven't used the Ikenvapes yet but the bloog maxxfusion blank cartos are the best I've tried. Despite the constant sales they run, I won't even buy the V4L blanks anymore because Bloog's are so much better and worth the extra $ IMO.After a massive cleaning effort didn't help I'm down to one fully functional V4L battery. Some just kicked the bucket after a good 4 month run, some have become too tight to pull, some I've dropped, and some are intermittent at best. I'm trying the bloogs too. I'm also looking for an alternative to the Ikenvape cartos. I still think they are leaps and bounds better than the prefilled, but I notice that after the first fill they require constant adding of juice to keep them going strong...I add about 5 drops every night to my active cartos. Too many and they puddle and leak, but if I don't the vapor is nonexistent. Even though it holds 50 drops, the effective volume seems to be only 5-10 drops. Anyone tried a clearomizer?Thanks guys, I'm gonna go ahead and buy some Bloogs and see if there is a difference. Were using all Bloog cartos anyway so that may help in itself.
I've noticed the phlegm clearing as well, though it's just general and not following cigarets. It sure takes awhile to get all those years out of the lungs. Haven't smoked a cigaret yet; over three months now. Do enjoy a cigar about once/month. Bummed a cigaret yesterday and made it a point to tell my wife just to get a rise! I wanted the filter--haven't fixed the eGo tanks yet and they're leaking, so I took that filter and fitted it in the tank to act as a cart instead. Worked!! We're heading to the coast this morning, so yesterday I stopped by the local shop and picked up a couple carts for backup until I can order what I need online.Was coming home from work and a neighbor was outside smoking a cig...We chatted for a few, I took a few drags off my V4L and got a craving...bummed a smoke off him, and smoked it. It actually tasted good. Not enough to make me want another, and I have total control over cugarettes now so its not even an issue, but it was pretty satisfying, and I have a nicotine buzz right now...I guess because I never take 10-15 hits in a row from my ecig. A couple drags here and there does the trick. Its crazy how as smokers we all used to take many more hits at a time than most of us do with our ecigs.Ive noticed though, every time I have taken even a few drags off a cigarette since I started vaping, the next morning I cough up a good amount of phlegm. I guess ive got it all out, and when theres some new stuff, its gotta get outta there.
Neither have I since I started vaping, but the wheeze in my breathing has slowly disappeared and is nonexistant now. I think all the crap in my lungs when I switched to ecigs, instead of being expelled, has gradually thinned out and somehow left my system.I haven't coughed up anything since I started vaping. So either somehow my lungs resisted 20+ years of pack-a-day Marlboro Red smoking, or vaping is keeping that #### crusted on there.
Hey guys! Just checking in... 6 months & a week smoke-free today, off e-cigs now for almost 2 months. Those of you looking towards an end, it IS very doable, believe me.Glump, did you find going without the pv for an extended time easier than it ever was a analog? I sure did.Over 3 1/2 months now smoke free. Now 36 hours vape free, and counting. This has been the plan for me but was certainly not intentional at this time. My world is flying low anyway, with demands from all directions all the time, and since vaping I've felt like I'm really operating in a cloud. It's been amazing how well this works for stopping smoking, but I also find that I'm drinking a little heavier, on the north side of a 12-pack/day. That's bound to have something to do with things--in the midst of all the normal detours I've got, night before last I misplaced my last working e-cig. It was hardly working, people even noticed there wasn't any 'smoke' anymore--but the crutch was still there. I had already ordered some replacement parts for the eGo-t but they haven't arrived yet. Hoping for this morning since they'll deliver at work. Guess I can't really complain since I wasn't quite climbing walls--maybe after this round I'll be quitting the whole game. Figure I've got maybe a couple months of juice left.
Yes I did do--but I'm really not thinking of making it permanent quite yet. I'm waiting minute-by-minute now for delivery of what should be my last order. It will set me up with a month's worth of juice, new atomizers and soft tips to prevent leakage from the tanks. I'll probably go ahead and order a replacement pass-through now though--that's been such a mainstay that the color's worn off, and I particularly like it while driving.eta--CONGRATS on kicking the habit! Both of 'em!!Hey guys! Just checking in... 6 months & a week smoke-free today, off e-cigs now for almost 2 months. Those of you looking towards an end, it IS very doable, believe me.Glump, did you find going without the pv for an extended time easier than it ever was a analog? I sure did.Over 3 1/2 months now smoke free.
Now 36 hours vape free, and counting.
This has been the plan for me but was certainly not intentional at this time. My world is flying low anyway, with demands from all directions all the time, and since vaping I've felt like I'm really operating in a cloud. It's been amazing how well this works for stopping smoking, but I also find that I'm drinking a little heavier, on the north side of a 12-pack/day. That's bound to have something to do with things--in the midst of all the normal detours I've got, night before last I misplaced my last working e-cig.
It was hardly working, people even noticed there wasn't any 'smoke' anymore--but the crutch was still there. I had already ordered some replacement parts for the eGo-t but they haven't arrived yet. Hoping for this morning since they'll deliver at work. Guess I can't really complain since I wasn't quite climbing walls--maybe after this round I'll be quitting the whole game. Figure I've got maybe a couple months of juice left.
Same here. I forget mine quite often and dont really sweat it. Could never do that with cigs.Just went back and looked at the first couple of pages of this thread. I ordered my 1st starter kit on Jan 7th, and got it Jan 13th. So Aug 13th will be 7 months for me.I have a feeling it won't belong before even vaping becomes an "only when I drink" sort of thing. This has worked miracles for me. Last year one of my favorite things was smoking some cigs in the beer garden at the local independent ball game. Now, most of the time, I don't even have my ecig with me (because I forgot) and I'm fine. I never would forget about having cigs with me before. No way. I do usually bring the e-cig though in case I get an urge but it's only a few drags to satisfy the craving instead of smoking a few entire cigs. Almost 7 months for me now.
its probably that people who dont smoke view ecigs as an alternative way to become addicted to nicotine as opposed to a safe alternative to existing smokers. on the other hand, i dont see it as any worse than the patch or gum. maybe the difference is the actual act of smoking? maybe thats also why we dont see ecig commercials on TVElectronic cig guys, what's your thoughts on why more money isn't being spent by the anti-cigarette crowd on this alternative. Ideally yes everyone should quit smoking, but if these are a lot healthier, then realistically wouldn't that be worth some advert dollars.
My girlfriend had me order her a starter kit once she saw and tried mine, and she had no intentions of switching before that. Since she started vaping, she got 3 of her female friends to order and 2 of the 3 have given up cigs for vaping. They all have XL batteries with like purple/pink or red LEDs. Their ecigs are almost like accessories to them lolAlso, my upstairs neighbor (27yr old female) has been vaping for months.I think if you get the ladies a flavor they like, and a battery in a color they like, they might be more likely to stick with it. That said, if the desire to make the switch isnt there, its not gonna stick regardless of the color, flavor, etc.anyone have any success introducing a lady to vaping or know one that does? i tried to get my mom and sister to make the switch but after the first day of excitement wore off their interest fell off quick. my guy friends always seem a lot more interested, i think the electronic aspect of this is a big turn off for women
Good take. I've turned one lady onto vaping, when she had an asthma attack (I think) and her doc put her on an inhaler. She likes it a lot instead of the inhaler, but pretty much only uses it at work, not home. That in itself has knocked off maybe a pack/day for her though.My girlfriend had me order her a starter kit once she saw and tried mine, and she had no intentions of switching before that. Since she started vaping, she got 3 of her female friends to order and 2 of the 3 have given up cigs for vaping. They all have XL batteries with like purple/pink or red LEDs. Their ecigs are almost like accessories to them lolAlso, my upstairs neighbor (27yr old female) has been vaping for months.I think if you get the ladies a flavor they like, and a battery in a color they like, they might be more likely to stick with it. That said, if the desire to make the switch isnt there, its not gonna stick regardless of the color, flavor, etc.anyone have any success introducing a lady to vaping or know one that does? i tried to get my mom and sister to make the switch but after the first day of excitement wore off their interest fell off quick. my guy friends always seem a lot more interested, i think the electronic aspect of this is a big turn off for women
:sigh: I seem to forget mine mostly in the evenings, over beer, and somehow through the past few months have lost two setups. :(Same here. I forget mine quite often and dont really sweat it. Could never do that with cigs.I have a feeling it won't belong before even vaping becomes an "only when I drink" sort of thing. This has worked miracles for me. Last year one of my favorite things was smoking some cigs in the beer garden at the local independent ball game. Now, most of the time, I don't even have my ecig with me (because I forgot) and I'm fine. I never would forget about having cigs with me before. No way. I do usually bring the e-cig though in case I get an urge but it's only a few drags to satisfy the craving instead of smoking a few entire cigs. Almost 7 months for me now.
The Grande is still a great PV. I'll find a use for it when the honeymoon is over with buzz....if it ever ends.Cool on the Buzz trogg. Saving the Grande for a special occasion?
The blanks are indisputably better. I've never tried Bloog's prefilled carts, but I doubt that they'd be worse than V4L's.I do like V4L's juices, for the most part. Dark Chocolate/Raspberry is my favorite, followed by Waffle and Cafe Mocha.Order placed. v4l XL starter kit, 555's, coffee sampler, vanillaI think I need more carts, 5 carts= 1 week or so?Bloog carts better?
The pre-filled ones are nice. I didn't much care for the cherry flavor, but I dig the Red and RY4s, and if you vape them dry, they don't leave much flavor around, meaning they essentially become blanks.The blanks are indisputably better. I've never tried Bloog's prefilled carts, but I doubt that they'd be worse than V4L's.I do like V4L's juices, for the most part. Dark Chocolate/Raspberry is my favorite, followed by Waffle and Cafe Mocha.Order placed. v4l XL starter kit, 555's, coffee sampler, vanillaI think I need more carts, 5 carts= 1 week or so?Bloog carts better?
You had me at twice the throat hit. Just ordered 10.Just tried a Bloog carto for the first time (ordered blank, added BWB Green Apple 18mg juice)In a word: WOW. Im getting twice the throat hit I was getting with the V4L carts, and about 1.5 times the vapor. These things bring it. What took me so long to try em??? No more V4L carts for me.
Looking at the site they have only 1 type of blank carto with different colors. Is this correct? V4L has two types I think. I just want to make sure I get the correct one.And did you look at their manual battery. 3-in-1. Manual, auto or pass-through. Kinda cool.You had me at twice the throat hit. Just ordered 10.Just tried a Bloog carto for the first time (ordered blank, added BWB Green Apple 18mg juice)In a word: WOW. Im getting twice the throat hit I was getting with the V4L carts, and about 1.5 times the vapor. These things bring it. What took me so long to try em??? No more V4L carts for me.
MaxxFusion is all you need to know.Looking at the site they have only 1 type of blank carto with different colors. Is this correct? V4L has two types I think. I just want to make sure I get the correct one.And did you look at their manual battery. 3-in-1. Manual, auto or pass-through. Kinda cool.You had me at twice the throat hit. Just ordered 10.Just tried a Bloog carto for the first time (ordered blank, added BWB Green Apple 18mg juice)
In a word: WOW. Im getting twice the throat hit I was getting with the V4L carts, and about 1.5 times the vapor. These things bring it. What took me so long to try em??? No more V4L carts for me.
My new favorite juice is OM.FG tobacco from Kalamazoo vapor shop.Nitelitevapor has some good juice. I would recommend thei Renegade and Bounty Hunter. They also have awesome prices.Next is one of the most well known juice venders Backwoodsbrew. You can't go wrong with any of their juices. Casablanca is a fav.Aliens visions has the most popular Boba's bounty. His juice is 100% VG, so it's a little too thick for carts. It didn't stop me from using it in MAXXfusion cartomizers. I won't put them in carts anymore, because his flavor really comes a live in an atomizer.Order shipped I want to make sure Im not drafting 2 qb's early.So eventually I want to fill these myself, correct? thats what the $1.50 blank cats are for...? from bloog? thats the best way to save cash, correct? link to good juice products? link to vid of technique?
Yes, buying the vials of juice and refilling your own is the way to go. It's pretty easy, I just pop off the lid and drop down the side of the carto. Others use a syringe or the 'condom method.'My favorite juices so far have been V4L's RY4 (many others make this too), Gorilla Juice and Blueberry from Alien Visions, and Waffle and Caramel Apple from Tasty Vapor.Welcome to the club and good luck. There is tons of good advice in this thread.Order shipped I want to make sure Im not drafting 2 qb's early.So eventually I want to fill these myself, correct? thats what the $1.50 blank cats are for...? from bloog? thats the best way to save cash, correct? link to good juice products? link to vid of technique?
Agree on the Ikenvapes. I found at first they were great, but like you said, the capacity seems to be all or nothing. Seemed like I had to top off with about 10 drops way too frequently, even though it was about 3/4 full. Strange. The double coils sound interesting. Almost makes me wanna order them and figure out a way to get em to work with the 808s lolI'd been using the Ikenvape cartomizers for a while. I like them a lot, but had a confluence of issues that caused me to nearly run out of fresh cartos, so I ended up trying several different kinds. Thought I'd give a quick write up of the various kinds I've tried in the past weeks. These were used on a mix of Bloog maxx fusion and V4L batteries.
Ikenvape Megas Hold a ton of juice when new, great vapor, very good flavor and decent throat hit. They have problems after 3 or so refills, especially with dark, thick, or sweet juice. I find they need almost constant topping off to get a decent hit; too much juice and you're leaking, not enough and there is little to no vapor. Its like the effective capacity goes from 50+ drops to 10. That, compounded with their supply problems, as well as me being out of work for two few weeks (chain vaping most of the day) led to me using up all my cartos and trying the others.
Dual-coil steel These have two low resistance coils for more flavor and vapor. Although it wasn't clear from the description, they aren't made to work with 808 batteries (like V4l and Bloog maxx fusion), as there is no slot on the center post for air to flow through. I was getting desperate so dremmeled out a little grove to mimic my other carts. It wouldn't work on the Bloogs or pass through. I finally got it going on my V4L manuals, and wow! Major amounts of vapor and flavors were popping like never before. If I found something similar that would work on my Bloog batteries I'd be all for these.
Bloog Maxx Fusion I concur with other's opinions, these really crank up the throat hit. Flavors come through nicely, but not as bold as either the Ikenvapes or Dual-coil. They also seem to vape all the way to empty, without dozens of drops gunking up the works like the Ikenvapes. I haven't had them as long as the others, but they seem well designed and put together.
Eventually I was able to clean my Ikenvapes by boiling, then rinsing using a large syringe. They need to dry thoroughly. After that they perform nearly as well as when new.
I'd love to find a dual-coil that I know works on Bloog batteries. Until then I think I am going back to the Ikenvapes because of the flavor rendering and initial storage capacity. Personally I don't find throat hit to be that important, so the Bloog's big draw isn't that impressive for me.
Hope this helps people looking for new cartomizers. At least you can avoid my mistakes, and know that it's possible to clean your old cartomizers if you're running out.
Cheapest juice I've found anywhere comes from Bluemist. Their flavors are hit and miss, but they're certainly not sub-par, and if you find one (or a couple) you like and buy in bulk, that's when you'll really start to save $. Their bulk prices are damn near as cheap as doing DIY ($30 for 180ml) - even cheaper if your DIY batches are small.My new favorite juice is OM.FG tobacco from Kalamazoo vapor shop.Nitelitevapor has some good juice. I would recommend thei Renegade and Bounty Hunter. They also have awesome prices.Next is one of the most well known juice venders Backwoodsbrew. You can't go wrong with any of their juices. Casablanca is a fav.Aliens visions has the most popular Boba's bounty. His juice is 100% VG, so it's a little too thick for carts. It didn't stop me from using it in MAXXfusion cartomizers. I won't put them in carts anymore, because his flavor really comes a live in an atomizer.Order shipped I want to make sure Im not drafting 2 qb's early.So eventually I want to fill these myself, correct? thats what the $1.50 blank cats are for...? from bloog? thats the best way to save cash, correct? link to good juice products? link to vid of technique?