I always do enough 50/50s that they will cover my tournaments, but I always make sure that my 2 50/50 lineups are in the same tournaments. Nothing worse then scoring 190+ points for 9 or 18 dollars when they would be winning 500 + in a tournament.Prince Myshkin said:needed to switch my 50/50 and tournament lineups on draftings this week. currently sitting right around 1000th in the millionaire maker, but my 50/50 lineup would be well inside the top 100 with steve smith still going.
tannehill, hill, lynch, eddleman, charles, j. thomas, seahawks and maclin...
The payouts have been changed also, I love it.DK is changing their millionaire tournament to be a $40 buy-in next week. They had about a $200k overlay today, I'm thinking the increased buy-in is going to be less popular but it will be interesting to see how it fills. It has the same terrible top-heavy payout system.
They have been changed a little to account for the increase buy-in, but I' not sure how you think they are better (unless you just prefer extremely top-heavy payouts which is fair, I prefer the flatter payouts similar to Fanduel's Sunday Million). For a $40 buy-in they are allowing 71,500 entries. The min-cash for places 5001-14000 is only $60, place 2000-5000 is $65 and it only gradually goes up from there. I think a min-cash should at least double your buy-in. I prefer fanduel's payout system much more.The payouts have been changed also, I love it.DK is changing their millionaire tournament to be a $40 buy-in next week. They had about a $200k overlay today, I'm thinking the increased buy-in is going to be less popular but it will be interesting to see how it fills. It has the same terrible top-heavy payout system.
I have a pretty good shot at a 50% ROI this weekend which I will take ANY DAY!Good chance to cash out in my $5 double up.. Need to finish top 1000, Currently 881 and still have Larry Donnel and TY Hilton left.
Should cash out in the FBG.. Currently 90th with TY Hilton left.. But would need 40 points from him to get a ticket since Sigmund went nuts again..
Probably not going to money in the $2 GPP unless Ruben Randle goes off enough to jump me about 10,000 spots
All in all.. Bet $17 and have a good chance for $30..
So, as I mentioned before that it is all about perspective, when playing with a small bank roll almost doubling up is a good weekend
I have a pretty good shot at a 50% ROI this weekend which I will take ANY DAY!Good chance to cash out in my $5 double up.. Need to finish top 1000, Currently 881 and still have Larry Donnel and TY Hilton left.
Should cash out in the FBG.. Currently 90th with TY Hilton left.. But would need 40 points from him to get a ticket since Sigmund went nuts again..
Probably not going to money in the $2 GPP unless Ruben Randle goes off enough to jump me about 10,000 spots
All in all.. Bet $17 and have a good chance for $30..
So, as I mentioned before that it is all about perspective, when playing with a small bank roll almost doubling up is a good weekend
If I hadn't gone away from Peyton (to Wilson ) it would have been SIGNIFICANTLY better.I have a pretty good shot at a 50% ROI this weekend which I will take ANY DAY!Good chance to cash out in my $5 double up.. Need to finish top 1000, Currently 881 and still have Larry Donnel and TY Hilton left.
Should cash out in the FBG.. Currently 90th with TY Hilton left.. But would need 40 points from him to get a ticket since Sigmund went nuts again..
Probably not going to money in the $2 GPP unless Ruben Randle goes off enough to jump me about 10,000 spots
All in all.. Bet $17 and have a good chance for $30..
So, as I mentioned before that it is all about perspective, when playing with a small bank roll almost doubling up is a good weekend
It's already done, unfortunately. It's up to $40 and instead of paying 15,500 are paying 14,000 I think. Payouts start at $60 now though.If DK goes up to $40 I'm out.
Nice, I don't know what a good ROI is when one only enters GPPs... but after tonight I will likely have tripled or quadrupled my initial buy-in this year doing nothing but GPPs. I have little interest grinding out 50/50s or H2H (and the one week I tried a handful half my lineups had players knocked out in the 1st quarter). First year doing this and I put in an initial deposit of $350 and should be sitting on $1100-$1200 with mediocre games from my remaining players tonight.I have a pretty good shot at a 50% ROI this weekend which I will take ANY DAY!Good chance to cash out in my $5 double up.. Need to finish top 1000, Currently 881 and still have Larry Donnel and TY Hilton left.
Should cash out in the FBG.. Currently 90th with TY Hilton left.. But would need 40 points from him to get a ticket since Sigmund went nuts again..
Probably not going to money in the $2 GPP unless Ruben Randle goes off enough to jump me about 10,000 spots
All in all.. Bet $17 and have a good chance for $30..
So, as I mentioned before that it is all about perspective, when playing with a small bank roll almost doubling up is a good weekend
Do they have their projections done for Thurs on Monday afternoon?When will the interactive value chart for M-Th be up?
I'm playing Hill. I figure everyone will.Do they have their projections done for Thurs on Monday afternoon?When will the interactive value chart for M-Th be up?
What is the Gio/Hill play...avoid or play Hill? Nobody should be playing Gio and it sounds like he will miss the game anyways. But this is a big division game so that could just be posturing on the Cincy side.
Interesting. I only play 3-5 man leagues and H2H cash games. Started the NFL season with $188 and hope to finish up this week with a bankroll of around $850. I'll likely stick with what's working for me.Nice, I don't know what a good ROI is when one only enters GPPs... but after tonight I will likely have tripled or quadrupled my initial buy-in this year doing nothing but GPPs. I have little interest grinding out 50/50s or H2H (and the one week I tried a handful half my lineups had players knocked out in the 1st quarter). First year doing this and I put in an initial deposit of $350 and should be sitting on $1100-$1200 with mediocre games from my remaining players tonight.I have a pretty good shot at a 50% ROI this weekend which I will take ANY DAY!Good chance to cash out in my $5 double up.. Need to finish top 1000, Currently 881 and still have Larry Donnel and TY Hilton left.
Should cash out in the FBG.. Currently 90th with TY Hilton left.. But would need 40 points from him to get a ticket since Sigmund went nuts again..
Probably not going to money in the $2 GPP unless Ruben Randle goes off enough to jump me about 10,000 spots
All in all.. Bet $17 and have a good chance for $30..
So, as I mentioned before that it is all about perspective, when playing with a small bank roll almost doubling up is a good weekend
Nice returnNice, I don't know what a good ROI is when one only enters GPPs... but after tonight I will likely have tripled or quadrupled my initial buy-in this year doing nothing but GPPs. I have little interest grinding out 50/50s or H2H (and the one week I tried a handful half my lineups had players knocked out in the 1st quarter). First year doing this and I put in an initial deposit of $350 and should be sitting on $1100-$1200 with mediocre games from my remaining players tonight.I have a pretty good shot at a 50% ROI this weekend which I will take ANY DAY!Good chance to cash out in my $5 double up.. Need to finish top 1000, Currently 881 and still have Larry Donnel and TY Hilton left.
Should cash out in the FBG.. Currently 90th with TY Hilton left.. But would need 40 points from him to get a ticket since Sigmund went nuts again..
Probably not going to money in the $2 GPP unless Ruben Randle goes off enough to jump me about 10,000 spots
All in all.. Bet $17 and have a good chance for $30..
So, as I mentioned before that it is all about perspective, when playing with a small bank roll almost doubling up is a good weekend
Big Ben did the same to me last week when I started Brady, LaFell, Gronk, Fitz, and Maclin. Then Big Ben and Antonio Brown killed any hope I had of getting rich.Had the potential to do real well on the Fanduel 500k one. Before the Steelers game last night, I was about 30 pts behind 1st with Hilton still to go tonight. But Big Ben and his 6 TDs torpedoed that chance..lol Still can get some nice coin though if Hilton does the normal Hilton things tonight.
People wanna hit the big one. It's fun and still much better odds than you'll ever get on any lottery ticket.Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
I usually shop for the GPPs that pay close to the top 20%. You don't have to finish top 10 to win money. That said, I've been atrocious in them until the last 2 weeks. I grind in the cash games (H2H, 50/50, Double-up, Triple-up) with about 85% of my weekly "investment". I go Quintuple up and big GPPs with 15%. Good mix for me.Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
They're up now:When will the interactive value chart for M-Th be up?
Thanks GBMT!!They're up now:When will the interactive value chart for M-Th be up?
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=tremblay_v14FanDuel10
I tried 50/50s and got bored. Yeah, I could enter 200 of them, go 105 - 95 and lose 6 dollars. No thanks.Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
I like the GPPs because I like diversifying and entering a lot of different lineups. (That's something I just started a few weeks ago. Before that, I was entering just 1-2 lineups per site, so about 20 lineups total. But now I'm entering around 20 lineups at each of my four main sites, and although it's time consuming, I think it's more fun and so far it's been more profitable and actually feels safer.)Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
Yes, at some sites it feels like you can't spend the entire salary cap if you tried. Just enter all the best players regardless of price, and you're still under the cap.Prices aren't high enough on the M/TH honestly. All the lineups will be similar for the most part.
Pretty much exactly how I feel. H2H and 50/50s felt like work to me when I am entering in multiple lineups... GPPs are more fun, so far have been profitable, and have a chance to hit it big. I focus on 4-6 lineups on FD (haven't tried the other sites).I like the GPPs because I like diversifying and entering a lot of different lineups. (That's something I just started a few weeks ago. Before that, I was entering just 1-2 lineups per site, so about 20 lineups total. But now I'm entering around 20 lineups at each of my four main sites, and although it's time consuming, I think it's more fun and so far it's been more profitable and actually feels safer.)Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
I enter a bunch of 50/50s as well, but by the time I get to my tenth lineup, if I'm trying not to enter the same few players in every one, I find that I'm sacrificing too many expected points for my taste in a 50/50.
With tournaments, I don't feel nearly as bad about sacrificing expected points to increase the diversity of players I'm using because I'm not trying to win every contest I enter; I'm just trying to hit really big with a few lineups, and the diversity improves my chances of that.
Def fill in the blanks here tomorrow on how that finished up.Looking at some entries from this past week, and granted there is still MNF to go, but I'm not seeing much distinction between 50/50 and Double Ups in terms of score required to be in the money. I played in several Doubles (at $10, $5, and $2) and 50/50s (at $5, $2, and $1). All were general Sunday-Monday games.
50/50 required scores to cash: 107, 111, 106, 111, 110, 113, 112, 111 (average = 110).
Double Up required scores to cash: 112 ($10), 108 ($5), 108 ($2). Average = 109)
Perhaps the Doubles, due to really large fields (these are the multi-entries) have more lineups with MNF players still to go, whereas the 100 entry 50/50s could be closer to "done". That's just a guess and unlikely to be significant. It could also have to do with the multi-entry format (more sub-optimal lineups in possible in theory if people plug in multiply, unique lineups).
In any case this makes me feel like strongly avoiding the 50/50s and focusing on Doubles because they aren't any harder, and pay 10% more. And the 50/50s don't offer the safety that H2Hs do.
I've been playing 50/50s myself, $10 a pop. They seem pretty easy to me. My $100 deposit is now an over $200 balance. But I do think about money I left on the table. I finished 1st in a 50 team $10 50/50 this week for the second week in a row and my score would have been good enough to win more money in a tournament. I'll still probably stick to mostly 50/50s because I also am risk averse.Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
The first lineup I created matched your first lineup except I went Cundiff/Colts (to separate Luck and Vinatieri).My probable lineups for Mon-Thu:
QB Andrew Luck 10100
RB Ahmad Bradshaw 7500
RB Jeremy Hill 5200
WR T.Y. Hilton 8100
WR Mohamed Sanu 7200
WR Rueben Randle 6400
TE Larry Donnell 5400
K Adam Vinatieri 5100
D Cleveland Browns 4800 59800
QB Eli Manning 7600
RB Ahmad Bradshaw 7500
RB Jeremy Hill 5200
WR A.J. Green 8400
WR T.Y. Hilton 8100
WR Rueben Randle 6400
TE Dwayne Allen 6200
K Josh Brown 5000
D Cincinnati Bengals 5600 60000
No experience myself but the general consensus is that they are harder with less mainstream appeal (more gamblaholics and cross-sport "professional" unmentionables). The market for fantasy football dwarfs the markets for other fantasy sports, combined.I know this a football site - but has anyone tried NBA GPPs with much success? I haven't followed the NBA since Jordan retired for the 2nd time (other than rooting against the Lakers). I tried a couple small dollar GPPs and was on the bubble for cashing (and would've if not for a Westbrook in game injury) despite not caring about or following the sport for 15+ years. In theory, it seems that player points would be more predictable and therefore it is easier to cash in the NBA GPPs compared to the NFL. There is also the added benefit of having a contest pretty much every day of the season.
"Pro"-tip: for every $10 50/50 entry, add a $1 tourney or $1 100/250 player league with the same lineup. Juices your returns when you score big, costs only a little when you don't.I've been playing 50/50s myself, $10 a pop. They seem pretty easy to me. My $100 deposit is now an over $200 balance. But I do think about money I left on the table. I finished 1st in a 50 team $10 50/50 this week for the second week in a row and my score would have been good enough to win more money in a tournament. I'll still probably stick to mostly 50/50s because I also am risk averse.Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
I only play GPP's. I think mostly because I'm greedy, don't have all that much interest in setting a great lineup so I can turn my $10 into $20 or whatever. Of course I also like the chance at the big win, and have been able to cash pretty consistently in the GPPs so far. (knocks on wood)Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
I have to remind myself to do this from time to time. I spend too much time trying to come up with tourney lineups that I forget to enter my double up and 50/50 lineups into the GPPs then kick myself when my 50/50 lineup scores big."Pro"-tip: for every $10 50/50 entry, add a $1 tourney or $1 100/250 player league with the same lineup. Juices your returns when you score big, costs only a little when you don't.I've been playing 50/50s myself, $10 a pop. They seem pretty easy to me. My $100 deposit is now an over $200 balance. But I do think about money I left on the table. I finished 1st in a 50 team $10 50/50 this week for the second week in a row and my score would have been good enough to win more money in a tournament. I'll still probably stick to mostly 50/50s because I also am risk averse.Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).
Great tip, guys! Thanks so much for responding.I have to remind myself to do this from time to time. I spend too much time trying to come up with tourney lineups that I forget to enter my double up and 50/50 lineups into the GPPs then kick myself when my 50/50 lineup scores big."Pro"-tip: for every $10 50/50 entry, add a $1 tourney or $1 100/250 player league with the same lineup. Juices your returns when you score big, costs only a little when you don't.I've been playing 50/50s myself, $10 a pop. They seem pretty easy to me. My $100 deposit is now an over $200 balance. But I do think about money I left on the table. I finished 1st in a 50 team $10 50/50 this week for the second week in a row and my score would have been good enough to win more money in a tournament. I'll still probably stick to mostly 50/50s because I also am risk averse.Can I ask why you guys play GPP games instead of just the 50/50s? Maybe it's me being more risk adverse, but cashing in the 50/50s is pretty easy overall and you can enter as many times as you'd like if the stakes don't meet your needs. It just seems like one game is playing poker (50/50s) and the other is buying a lottery ticket (GPP).