Hoart Petterson
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Favre will play this year! (1 Viewer)
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sho nuff
Footballguy
I think its more likely after seeing others go through crap for 6 weeks, he may not want to still take the beating.But your last line is funny. Yes, until the injury. Its extremely hard to go through that many games without getting hurt. Of course Peyton has a shot as far as he has come so far. Just its so hard to do.I just don't think its any real reason he is weighing in coming back.I agree I don't see the pup as a real option as he would still be working from now til then. And I don't think it helps the team at all to put him on the PUP and have the other QBs just holding his place for 6 weeks either.
ICON211
Footballguy
I don't know how Manning does not break the streak. He takes one hit every three years.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
But it isn't a Super Bowl-caliber team. With Favre (as he performed last year) it is. I don't think a team can win a SB these days without that piece of the puzzle. The Ravens a decade ago were the exception. Maybe the Buccaneers, although Brad Johnson was pretty decent back then. But there's too much talent in the NFC to go to war in the playoffs without something special behind center. The Vikings don't have it without Favre. Like I said, I think they're taking the best thing about the team (or one of the best, since AP might be the best) out of the equation and leaving the worst. That's a recipe for disaster. I also agree that if the team is 2-5, Favre would have no reason to come back even if he needed more time to heal.
Alfredo Garcia
Footballguy
He's 34 now and needs 5 years to break it. Peyton's a god and if anyone can do it he can, but playing at 39 isn't the norm.Didn't he say he only wanted to play for a few more years? Can't find a link anywhere, but I seem to remember that.
fatness
Footballguy
Isn't that really what this is all about? He needs some public begging.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Pat Kirwin thinks this is a money grab? Seriously???
Balance
Footballguy
This is beyond old. Favre isn't thee on dramatizing this.
Billy1x
Footballguy
The Vikings are prepared to do whatever it takes to get Brett Favre to return this season, according to FoxSports.com's Jay Glazer.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Don't forget he will be playing in an 18 game season which makes it fairly easy to break all the records. For all positions!
fatness
Footballguy
Someone else sent those texts to his teammates?
Jeremy
Footballguy
This is barely an exaggeration. He gets rid of the ball so quickly, and when he does get hurried he hits the deck like somebody is shooting at him. I don't think anybody hates contact more than Peyton Manning. I think he has a very good chance at breaking it provided he's willing to play long enough.
David Dodds
Administrator
I don't generally agree with PFT on matters of news, but I think they are 100% correct here. The press conference will likely talk about Brett's charity or some golf tournament. "This is It" tweet will somehow be spun to say I think we have the Super Bowl team here. The presser will undoubtedly tell everyone rehab has been soooooo hard and the ankle's not responding. That's he's trying his hardest. That he WANTS to be in training camp. That he has spent his lifetime to be in this situation to take this great team to it's rightful place in history.
But I am old. I don't know if I can get there. He will mention the ankle a bunch more times. There will be some truth to all of this of course, but I think this also is because Favre wants to stay in the news and he wants a convenient excuse should he start throwing massive interceptions again. He does not want to go out as the benched guy that overstayed his welcome. I think he fears that more than anything else right now.`
cue 4 days before the New Orleans opener and the Great One announces...I am going to do my best everyone. I will play with a crutch if I have to. I love the game too much to quit it on someone elses terms. I thank all the fans that have believed in me and continue to believe in me. ...."This is It!" he shouts to the media taking every ounce in.
and the New Orleans / Minnesota game opens to HUGE ratings.
I will believe Tavaris Jackson is the starter AFTER he starts week 1 of the season. Favre doesn't want to just fade away. He wants to be the story. Minnesota plays the opener against the defending champions...a team that Minnesota played tough in the playoffs (and should have won had they not had 4 turnovers in the redzone).
No way this story ends today. It's just getting going people.
But I am old. I don't know if I can get there. He will mention the ankle a bunch more times. There will be some truth to all of this of course, but I think this also is because Favre wants to stay in the news and he wants a convenient excuse should he start throwing massive interceptions again. He does not want to go out as the benched guy that overstayed his welcome. I think he fears that more than anything else right now.`
cue 4 days before the New Orleans opener and the Great One announces...I am going to do my best everyone. I will play with a crutch if I have to. I love the game too much to quit it on someone elses terms. I thank all the fans that have believed in me and continue to believe in me. ...."This is It!" he shouts to the media taking every ounce in.
and the New Orleans / Minnesota game opens to HUGE ratings.
I will believe Tavaris Jackson is the starter AFTER he starts week 1 of the season. Favre doesn't want to just fade away. He wants to be the story. Minnesota plays the opener against the defending champions...a team that Minnesota played tough in the playoffs (and should have won had they not had 4 turnovers in the redzone).
No way this story ends today. It's just getting going people.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
This is the way I see it too. I will believe Favre is retired when he is not lined up behind center for the Vikings first play of the season. If he does walk away, that is one hell of a time to do so. The Vikings have a Super Bowl team and should have won it last year but the whole team fell flat against New Orleans. 500 TD's and 70,000 yards are staring at him. I hope he comes back.
griff321
Footballguy
I hope that's true.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
I know Favre has some excellent characteristics as a QB, and I'm not saying he's not better than their other current options. But the simple fact is Favre has now ended three seasons for three different (good to great) teams by throwing AWFUL interceptions. I'm sure lots of folks would be willing to jump in and defend all of those plays, but it sure seems to me that when it really matters in the late regular season and post-season, he's not really been that extraordinary for a while.
Is it REALLY that big a deal (from a team perspective) that he's not coming back? Sure, you have a better shot at getting to the playoffs with Favre at the helm, but what's he gonna do when he gets there? It almost seems like he is DESPERATE to go out in a blaze of personal glory, whether or not that's in the team's best interests at the time.
Is it REALLY that big a deal (from a team perspective) that he's not coming back? Sure, you have a better shot at getting to the playoffs with Favre at the helm, but what's he gonna do when he gets there? It almost seems like he is DESPERATE to go out in a blaze of personal glory, whether or not that's in the team's best interests at the time.
Winky the tunnel ferret
Footballguy
Still going on record as him having the same chance of retiring as Brees?David Dodds said:
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I disagree with the notion that the Favre retirement saga is "just getting going", but otherwise would say of course its true that this doesn't end today. Nothing has happened today other than another in a long long history of emails, tweets and texts from journalists pretending they have some inside info on Favre's status. Favre hasn't said anything today, nor have the Vikings really (not that any statements from either would be definitive in any case). This "story" is a zero - no value whatsoever.griff321 said:David Dodds said:I hope that's true.
az_prof
Footballguy
Sho Nuff: I know you are a Packer fan and appreciate your classy response.And TBH, I agree, that until I don't see him out there I won' believe it either. But the way his ankle was twisted around in that NO game this doesn't surprise me. I just don't understand why he didn't get the surgery earlier. Now the Vikings are really going to regret not going hard after McNabb, who would have been the perfect fit to their offense. We will have a shot with Jackson, but basically the Central is wide open if this turns out to be true.
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Guy is just terrible.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
You should be happy with all of the media attention focusing on Favre because when Favre is gone the media attention is going to fall squarely on your little boys shoulders. When is Peyton going to retire? [Glazer]"I received a text from Peyton saying he felt bad today after eating some raw fish. He is thinking about retiring."[/Glazer] Yeah, rev up the engines because the Manning talk will go on for one, two, three, years as well.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Sorry, I can't see this happening...not at all.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
whitem0nkey said:
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Nobody's making anyone talk about it.
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CA_7
Footballguy
Vikings K Ryan Longwell -- one of Brett Favre's best longtime pals -- revealed that he spoke to Favre on Tuesday and retirement talk never came up.
"I talked with Brett and haven't heard that," said Longwell. "He didn't tell me that. I don't know where the reports came from, but he certainly hasn't said that to me." Added Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network on Tuesday afternoon: "I still do not believe Brett Favre has thrown his last NFL pass."
http://wcco.com/sports/brett.favre.retiring.2.1840463.html
"I talked with Brett and haven't heard that," said Longwell. "He didn't tell me that. I don't know where the reports came from, but he certainly hasn't said that to me." Added Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network on Tuesday afternoon: "I still do not believe Brett Favre has thrown his last NFL pass."
http://wcco.com/sports/brett.favre.retiring.2.1840463.html
Clifford
Footballguy
I won't believe that til Favre is under 6 feet of dirt, and even then I would be on the lookout for a Zombie-Favre comeback.K so I've missed about four hours of coverage and am now thoroughly confused:
Childress said Favre did not tell him he was retiring
Vikings players said same
Favre has not announced his retirement
Is there actually anything to this story? If so, Joe Webb anyone?
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Masked Vigilante
Footballguy
Favre is schooling Lebron on how to toy with the media.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Apparently a reporter saw a text from Favre to a unnamed player that said "This is it". The second I read what the report was based on I tuned out.
Clifford
Footballguy
You have got to be kidding me. Wow, complete non-story. I hope Sears does a commercial about idiot me-first reporters falling all over themselves to jump a story.The missing texts:
UN Player: Hey man, camp is a lot of fun. When you coming in?
Favre: Dunno, not today, watching a movie about Michael Jackson..
UN Player: Which one?
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simmonjm
Footballguy
Billy1x said:Guy is just terrible.
Jay Glazer is usually spot on with his news scoops. Its the ESPN reporters i.e. Werder, Palantonio, Mort, Shefter, and Clayton that are constantly contradicting each other in hopes of being the first to break news.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Pete Prisco's always looking for a chance to rip Favre: selfishBilly1x said:Jay Glazer is usually spot on with his news scoops. Its the ESPN reporters i.e. Werder, Palantonio, Mort, Shefter, and Clayton that are constantly contradicting each other in hopes of being the first to break news.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Me thinks that you are looking at a bunch of rats and saying one is less rat like than the others. They're all garbage in terms of breaking these stories. They all jump the gun and all fail a lot... Please don't try to try to elevate Glazer over any of these guys. They're all rats...Billy1x said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Johnny, is Farve really to blame? We know this is how it's going to go down every year, we all do, media included yet they lap it up like tired old dogs. What's Farve really doing? Is he calling the media and saying he's going to retire, then call them back and say he's not over and over?With twitter, 4 espn's, nfl network, blog's and forums all over the place, we're maniacs for the latest second of any information, true or false. We're all to blame. Everyone needs to just sit back and wait instead of everyday asking themselves if Farve is going to retire. If the Vikings can do it, why can't everyone else.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Or just listen to me and realize that Favre will retire when he beleives his records are out of Manning's reach.
Outlaw Spades
Footballguy
I love it how these guys have to vilify Favre. They won't dare rip on one of the their own saying, so and so tweeted when he should have twitted because he was trying to be first to scoop the story when he looked over a players shoulder and saw "This is it" on a text from BF. No the media is not to blame, it all BF's fault because he is a prima donna rumor creating news loving idiot. It gave every media outlet in the country a chance to dump there he's retiring stories and get them out since they had already written them and now can move on. I guess we don't wait for news conferences anymore, Twitter is gospel, just like the new "carted off the field" crap being spewed everyday about players now.Pete Prisco's always looking for a chance to rip Favre: selfishBilly1x said:Guy is just terrible.
smackdaddies
Footballguy
LeRoy Butler thinks it's about the money - not that he wants more per se, but he wants to be the highest paid qb there is - and if SamBradford can get 50m guarnateed, BF will want more
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/99870344.html
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/99870344.html
identikit
Footballguy
Report: Family source says Favre has made no decision
Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2010 4:45 PM ET
No development regarding the career of Brett Favre is official until the official Favre family scrivener, Al Jones of the Biloxi Sun-Herald, chimes in.
Jones reports, citing an unnamed family source, that no decision has been made by Favre regarding whether he'll retire for the third annual year.
"Brett has not made a commitment to play or a decision to return at this point," the source said.
So what in the hell is going on here?
Since Favre himself has remained silent, and since we believe the reports that he has advised team officials and teammates that he's retiring, this whole thing could be a power play aimed at getting more money for Favre or, more likely, getting the team off his ### about showing up for the third preseason game.
Indeed, we've got a feeling that the organization had been pressuring him to show up for the preseason home opener, and that Favre finally decided to make it known that he simply won't show up at all. By never acknowledging it himself, he'll never look like he was lying.
And so the end result will be more money for Favre and the ability to show up on the Friday before the first game, giving him six days to prepare to face the Saints on September 9.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...sion/?related=1
Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2010 4:45 PM ET
No development regarding the career of Brett Favre is official until the official Favre family scrivener, Al Jones of the Biloxi Sun-Herald, chimes in.
Jones reports, citing an unnamed family source, that no decision has been made by Favre regarding whether he'll retire for the third annual year.
"Brett has not made a commitment to play or a decision to return at this point," the source said.
So what in the hell is going on here?
Since Favre himself has remained silent, and since we believe the reports that he has advised team officials and teammates that he's retiring, this whole thing could be a power play aimed at getting more money for Favre or, more likely, getting the team off his ### about showing up for the third preseason game.
Indeed, we've got a feeling that the organization had been pressuring him to show up for the preseason home opener, and that Favre finally decided to make it known that he simply won't show up at all. By never acknowledging it himself, he'll never look like he was lying.
And so the end result will be more money for Favre and the ability to show up on the Friday before the first game, giving him six days to prepare to face the Saints on September 9.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...sion/?related=1
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So these reports are really solely based on a text message that said "this is it" and nothing else? Couldn't that mean that this season, 2010, is his last season. Couldn't it mean that he thinks that "this" team is going to win the super bowl?
Media shouldn't be this bored with all the camps open right now.
Media shouldn't be this bored with all the camps open right now.
found some tidbits on Twitter and it gets all that more confusing.
KFANAM1130
Adrian petetson did not receive a "this is it" text from favre. He still hopes favre is handing him the ball in week one
JuddZulgad
Visanthe Shiancoe confirms that some players have learned from Favre he plans to retire. Shiancoe hasn't been told that yet by Favre
TomPelissero (ESPN 1500)
Shiancoe, Peterson both said their gut feeling still is Favre is the QB come Sept. 9.
Adam_Schefter
Visanthe Shiancoe: "What I'm hearing is it is true, he did decide to retire. Until I hear it from his mouth, I'm going to leave it at that."
chipscoggins
Adrian Peterson said he texted Favre today but wouldn't reveal specifics.
WCCORosen
Longwell told us after practice he spoke with Favre again and Brett said he didn't know where this was all coming from
KFANAM1130
Adrian petetson did not receive a "this is it" text from favre. He still hopes favre is handing him the ball in week one
JuddZulgad
Visanthe Shiancoe confirms that some players have learned from Favre he plans to retire. Shiancoe hasn't been told that yet by Favre
TomPelissero (ESPN 1500)
Shiancoe, Peterson both said their gut feeling still is Favre is the QB come Sept. 9.
Adam_Schefter
Visanthe Shiancoe: "What I'm hearing is it is true, he did decide to retire. Until I hear it from his mouth, I'm going to leave it at that."
chipscoggins
Adrian Peterson said he texted Favre today but wouldn't reveal specifics.
WCCORosen
Longwell told us after practice he spoke with Favre again and Brett said he didn't know where this was all coming from
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Outlaw Spades
Footballguy
Favre needs to quit leaving his cell phone in that HS locker room while he is out throwing the ball around. Those HS kids are having a field day with his phone!!
Billy1x
Footballguy
Mooch says Brett thinks the ankle is not were it needs to be yet. If it does not improve he would likely retire but it takes longer do to age. Vikings want him to stay in Mississippi and keep rehabilitating it. No need to make any decisions at this time. He will play if his ankle responds and he feels like he can play at a high level - PERIOD
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
http://min.scout.com/2/988843.html
Source on Favre: Now it’s not over
A Vikings source said the team thought Brett Favre was retiring within the last 24 hours and now it’s back to being an unknown. One of Favre’s long-time friends confirmed that he’s still undecided.
A Vikings source confirmed that the team thought “it was over” – that Brett Favre was retiring within the last 24 hours. But now – now being late afternoon Tuesday, for the record – it’s still very much up in the air.
According to the source, the team doesn’t believe it is being held hostage for more money but that Favre is simply struggling with his decision.
Kicker Ryan Longwell talked with Favre at least twice on Tuesday, once in the morning before he knew of the reports circulating that Favre had informed some people within the team that he was retiring and then again after Longwell was informed of reports following the morning practice.
Longwell, who has had a long-standing friendly relationship with Favre since their days together with the Packers, said at about 5 p.m. Central that Favre has made no decision on his retirement but that he is genuinely struggling with it.
“I don’t even know what was reported. All I know is that Brett and I have been together for a decade now and I think probably four or five of those years, there’s been retirement talk four or five of those years,” Longwell said following the afternoon practice. “To say that we haven’t talked about retirement would be a lie, but I haven’t heard anything that he’s planning on retiring this year.”
Even after talking with Favre multiple times on Tuesday, Longwell said he still doesn’t have a feeling on Favre one way or another.
“Obviously he’s been hemming and hawing for the last couple of years, much like he has this offseason,” Longwell said. “Certainly there was no drop-dead decision or end date last night or the night before or anything like that, that he had told anybody. Whether he was leaning one way or not, I don’t know. Certainly it was news to us when we woke up this morning.”
Source on Favre: Now it’s not over
A Vikings source said the team thought Brett Favre was retiring within the last 24 hours and now it’s back to being an unknown. One of Favre’s long-time friends confirmed that he’s still undecided.
A Vikings source confirmed that the team thought “it was over” – that Brett Favre was retiring within the last 24 hours. But now – now being late afternoon Tuesday, for the record – it’s still very much up in the air.
According to the source, the team doesn’t believe it is being held hostage for more money but that Favre is simply struggling with his decision.
Kicker Ryan Longwell talked with Favre at least twice on Tuesday, once in the morning before he knew of the reports circulating that Favre had informed some people within the team that he was retiring and then again after Longwell was informed of reports following the morning practice.
Longwell, who has had a long-standing friendly relationship with Favre since their days together with the Packers, said at about 5 p.m. Central that Favre has made no decision on his retirement but that he is genuinely struggling with it.
“I don’t even know what was reported. All I know is that Brett and I have been together for a decade now and I think probably four or five of those years, there’s been retirement talk four or five of those years,” Longwell said following the afternoon practice. “To say that we haven’t talked about retirement would be a lie, but I haven’t heard anything that he’s planning on retiring this year.”
Even after talking with Favre multiple times on Tuesday, Longwell said he still doesn’t have a feeling on Favre one way or another.
“Obviously he’s been hemming and hawing for the last couple of years, much like he has this offseason,” Longwell said. “Certainly there was no drop-dead decision or end date last night or the night before or anything like that, that he had told anybody. Whether he was leaning one way or not, I don’t know. Certainly it was news to us when we woke up this morning.”
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