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Al Davis died about a decade ago when the Raiders last were meaningful. No offense, he was great in his day, but his day has long ago been eclipsed. I applaud his son for hiring a GM he trusts and turning the reigns over to him. Hue Jackson is no HOF HC and should not be mourned. He may have turned out ok but with a new owner who trusts his GM, and a new GM, I think the Raiders will be in a position to land an even better HC.'Raiderfan32904 said:
I don't always agree with Silver, but the tone of this article rings true. Tommy boy's in power and he want's everyone to know. He ain't putting up with daddy's ish anymore.
I think the article is junk myself. I liked what I saw from Mark Davis when McKenzie was introduced.
This was a hatchet job by Silver and very unfair. (Prolly trying to generate traffic to his page.) Reading through the interview Mark Davis had with a local writer he said all the right things. Specifically, that he knows what he doesn't know, which is huge. My impression is that Davis is willing to let the football people do their job and not interfere. While Davis' appearance lends to the Tommy Boy reference, Silver has no justification for it other than some anecdotal information. Let's reserve judgement and give Davis a full season before jumping to conclusions.Exactly. Marc Davis is not a football guy the way his father was. That's why we have a GM now and the GM will handle the team. The media just loves contraversy and we are the Bad Boys of the NFL. Let them hate us. Let them talk bad about us. It just feeds the love of the real Raider fans. Just Win Baby!
It's always a good move to consult with people smarter than you are, particularly if you are thrown into a position you are not qualified for like Al's son. I think McKenzie is a good hire. Endorsed by people Al Davis was close to. Hopefully McKenzie lands the guy he has had his eye on all along. Hue wasn't perfect, had made some egregious error to be sure. But he was the most dynamic playcaller when paired with Al Saunders that we have had in years. I hope we don't step back into the bed and breakfast type offense again. And Mark Davis has no loyalty at all for Oakland. He's already threatening to move the team to LA, and if the right deal was on the table, it would already have been a done deal (paraphrasing). They are building that new Farmers Field down there and it may be that he has eyes on that instead of an expansion team.
Great! Just what the Raiders needed to do to pump some much needed life into a division rival. Way to go!
Complete BS "article." If Mark Davis wants to wipe away all the people who witnessed his alleged treatment at the hands of Al, why haven't more front office changes been announced? Surely people like Amy Trask would've witnessed all this.
And based on his career trajectory so far, he'll be there for one season tops while he angles for a new HC position.
I think his final press conference Jackson was very frustrated with the entire team and really fuming at Bresnahan. But I think even he regrets his choice of words. I've also heard that the decision was made to oust Jackson even had he made the playoffs. After Al Davis died, someone had to step up and take the leadership role. Jackson was "next man up". Jackson had maybe too much zeal and too strong an ego to be pulling off crazy mid season trades and calling them great trades. I don't think anyone bought that then and they likely buy it less now. He put himself on an island and unfortunately Mark Davis was in no position to stop him when he could have. For better or for worse, it was all Hue all the time. Too bad it took Mark Davis a lot of counseling and 3 months to grow a pair and make a football decision.And I too was tired of Hue's power trip. I remember the player only OTA's when Campbell and Seymour personally led the team in unsanctioned practices. I remember how Campbell was finding a rhythm in his passes and footwork in preseason, looking very sharp against the Saints. I remember how much hard work Campbell put in to be recognized as a leader. And when he went down to injury, he still worked out with Boller and Palmer trying to coach them up for the next game's gameplan. He did this all year. Now that's leadership. Quiet, but it still counts. Nothing against Carson Palmer, but he was given the keys to the team on a silver platter. I particularly didn't like when Hue said shortly after aquiring Palmer in trade, "now we have a 'real' QB". That was pathetic to step on Campbell to make his boy Palmer look good. Very classless move imo. I also didn't much care for that last presser, but there were a number of times he would be coy with the media. Never once being forthright about Darren McFadden's injury. As hurt as our team was in the last few weeks, it would have been nice to get another depth guy to bolster our defense and put DMC on IR. Our team was ravaged by injuries and marching out there with a 52 man team and an injured star decoy.Now I will say I will miss Hue, because he had a great thing going with Al Saunders, and now that we have Palmer on board and have spent so much to get him (and you can debate if it was a good or bad deal all you want). Now you wonder if Palmer will even want to return. It's been said he's very well off and doesn't need the money. Will Sauders return? Dunno. It may not even be in his hands depending on who McKenzie chooses as HC. The offense was a juggernaut at times this last season in large part to the playcalling. Hue wasn't a bad HC, but not nearly as good as he gave himself credit for. Maybe he was a better OC. If only he could have controlled his emotions and ego, and if only AD hadn't hired that UFL quality DC in Bresnahan. I wish the story could have been different. A few breaks here or there in the Buffalo game, in the Detroit game, and finally in the Charger game when it mattered most. Any one of these games by themselves would have made of difference. We wouldn't have to suffer the indignity of watching the hated Broncos in the playoffs.
One winning season in eight years as head coach; 48-80 overall record. If the Raiders want to make the Chargers sticking with Norv Turner look good, Capers would be a great hire.As for "shoring up the defense," the Packers are #32 in yardage defense this year, #19 in scoring defense. 30th in passing net yards/attempt, 26th in rushing yards/attempt.'Bruno2 said:Dom Capers
And it begins... Could Capers be the Raider's next HC? It wouldn't surprise me at all that McKenzie would go this route. He obviously has ties with Capers already and shoring up the defense will be a priority in the offseason.
I am by no means on board with Capers... I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if McKenzie picks a Packers assistant to be the Raiders next head coach. And I believe the Packers defense was a top 5 last year... I don't follow the Pack close enough to know what happened this year. I'm sure some of it can be attributed to teams passing a lot in garbage time against them. Capers has a good reputation installing the 3-4 defense as a DC but as a HC I hope the Raiders go another route.One winning season in eight years as head coach; 48-80 overall record. If the Raiders want to make the Chargers sticking with Norv Turner look good, Capers would be a great hire.As for "shoring up the defense," the Packers are #32 in yardage defense this year, #19 in scoring defense. 30th in passing net yards/attempt, 26th in rushing yards/attempt.'Bruno2 said:Dom Capers
And it begins... Could Capers be the Raider's next HC? It wouldn't surprise me at all that McKenzie would go this route. He obviously has ties with Capers already and shoring up the defense will be a priority in the offseason.
I agree with others. I would rather go in another direction for the HC position instead of Dom Capers. In all fairness to Capers record though, he coached two expansion teams so he didn't have much talent to work with.I am by no means on board with Capers... I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if McKenzie picks a Packers assistant to be the Raiders next head coach. And I believe the Packers defense was a top 5 last year... I don't follow the Pack close enough to know what happened this year. I'm sure some of it can be attributed to teams passing a lot in garbage time against them. Capers has a good reputation installing the 3-4 defense as a DC but as a HC I hope the Raiders go another route.One winning season in eight years as head coach; 48-80 overall record. If the Raiders want to make the Chargers sticking with Norv Turner look good, Capers would be a great hire.As for "shoring up the defense," the Packers are #32 in yardage defense this year, #19 in scoring defense. 30th in passing net yards/attempt, 26th in rushing yards/attempt.'Bruno2 said:Dom Capers
And it begins... Could Capers be the Raider's next HC? It wouldn't surprise me at all that McKenzie would go this route. He obviously has ties with Capers already and shoring up the defense will be a priority in the offseason.
Shameless hit piece. Seems like Mark is well aware of his short comings (evidenced by the people engaged in advisory roles) and, by all reports, made an excellent hire in McKenzie despite only interviewing one person. I can't imagine any GM very excited to work with a coach who just spent the very short offseason declaring that he would be much more involved in personnel and other decisions. Hue made a huge gambit at the end of the year to yoke some of the control of the team and got burned. I liked Hue and still think he has a very good offensive mind, but as HC, he reminds me too much of other local flops like Mike Nolan. Excellent coordinators who are overmatched as HC. Hue made his own bed, so I;m not sure why Silver is so ready to defend him. He had to go after his outbursts. Keep that kind of junk in house.
I still expect it to be Moss. How often does the frontrunner NOT get the job?McKenzie apparently is on record as saying if he was ever a GM, he'd hire Moss. The massive number of names the Raiders are interviewing makes me think there is other stuff at work here. Maybe they are interviewing potential coordinators, maybe doing some recon on the other teams, seeing who their hot young coaches are. I mean, Tice? Mornhinweg?? I don't see it.
I feel ya, and I am surprised it's taking this long, but I am thus far not seeing the Raiders candidates getting swooped up. McCoy pulled his name form contention, but I am guessing he figured he was a longshot, and was making his play for the Fins job, and wanted them to know he was serious.I am really excited about McKenzie, no one thinks he was a bad choice, and I am betting the new HC will have some really good choices at assistant coaching spots.Moss is the media favorite. I still don't think that makes him a sure thing hire. I figured that after the Packers loss, the decision to raid the Packers coaching staff would be a swift one, given McKenzie's ties. In the same manner that Mark Davis only interviewed McKenzie because he had him pegged as his guy all along, I was hoping McKenzie would have had wagon's circled around one favorite candidate, presumably from the Packers. Wouldn't have surprised anyone to see Moss hired as early as this past Monday.
Starting to worry that the coaching musical chairs is going see a lot of good candidates jump before McKenzie makes his decision. Lost in all of that is the presumption that the next head coach will get to choose his coaching staff, and all the AD scholarship coaches pretty much know they are out the door, but the new HC will also need time to assemble his staff. Time is ticking....
There might be a reason why McKenzie hasn't decided yet. That might be that he would like to talk to an assistant or two from the teams still in the playoffs. I would rather McKenzie take his time and get this right then rush in and pick the wrong guy as HC.I feel ya, and I am surprised it's taking this long, but I am thus far not seeing the Raiders candidates getting swooped up. McCoy pulled his name form contention, but I am guessing he figured he was a longshot, and was making his play for the Fins job, and wanted them to know he was serious.I am really excited about McKenzie, no one thinks he was a bad choice, and I am betting the new HC will have some really good choices at assistant coaching spots.Moss is the media favorite. I still don't think that makes him a sure thing hire. I figured that after the Packers loss, the decision to raid the Packers coaching staff would be a swift one, given McKenzie's ties. In the same manner that Mark Davis only interviewed McKenzie because he had him pegged as his guy all along, I was hoping McKenzie would have had wagon's circled around one favorite candidate, presumably from the Packers. Wouldn't have surprised anyone to see Moss hired as early as this past Monday.
Starting to worry that the coaching musical chairs is going see a lot of good candidates jump before McKenzie makes his decision. Lost in all of that is the presumption that the next head coach will get to choose his coaching staff, and all the AD scholarship coaches pretty much know they are out the door, but the new HC will also need time to assemble his staff. Time is ticking....
I am nervous about the transition to the 3-4, if that is what happens. Seems almost inevitable, and making that change tends to take some time.
Philbin the first coach off the board. Bummer, but not surprising. There is going to be a big bidding war on Flynn the moment free agency kicks off and I dont think we'll be in it either. My offseason dream is dead.
If I were a betting man, I'd say the job is down to Winston Moss and Dennis Allen.
Seriously. They fired Hue Jax for this hot mess?!? Between this sorry set, Reggie McKenzie's muttered speech and Mark Davis' haircut, I'm really getting that "be careful what you wish for" feeling.
In one season, Allen turned the Broncos defense (which was largely responsible for getting Shanahan fired) from the worst in the league to decent. But if rankings matter that much to you, the Giants' defense was ranked 27th.
I'm in, when can I buy one.
The Black Bowl?
He's on the Rams staff now.
Ah I didn't realize he had already resigned. Thanks.
Was I suggesting that the Raiders hire Perry Fewell? #20 isn't "decent" by any measure, especially given the easy schedule the Broncos had--only 5 games against teams with winning records, and they gave up over 40 points in three of those.
20th is decent considering they were 32nd the year prior, and last year ranked 6th best in 3rd down defense. Not a coincidence that the Broncos had a huge uptick in their record, with Tebow getting all the credit. That defense, with Miller, Dumervil and Champ is still less talented than the Raiders D is today. If Allen can get that kind of efficiency out of the Raiders D, and with that offense in tact, they should be ok.
Why would the offense be intact? Allen hasn't coached on the offensive side of the ball, ever. Hue Jackson called the plays in 2011, so even if Saunders stays (which he probably won't) it's not like it's the same offense.
While technically true, this statement is very deceiving. He took that defense to 8-8. The egg laying Raiders and Chargers took them to the playoffs.I don't know whether this guy will be a good HC, but there is some serious inflation of Denver's 2011 D in the comments I'm reading surrounding this hire.
