UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Amy Trask is in charge of the non football side of operations. Its the non football side of operations that let Herrera go, not McKenzie. Amy isnt going anywhere.
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***Oakland Raiders 2012 Regular Season Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Really good article here about our compensatory picks
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/
When I orginally did my own research last offseason, Gradkowski hadnt signed yet so I excluded him and later forgot about him in my more recent calculations. I also completely missed Thomas Howard who had a decent comeback year with the Bengals. Those two guys improve my previous estimates.
The article subtracts FAs signed starting at closest value to FAs lost and gives an estimate of a 3rd for Asomugha, a 4th for Miller, and a 5th for Howard. Gallery and Gradkowski were cancelled out in the article by Boss and Heyer. IMO its still possible to get an additional 7th round pick in this scenario because Gallery and Gradkowski could still be calculated to be slightly more valueable than Boss and Heyer. The potential to get a 5th round pick for Howard who I had previously dismissed as someone with no compensatory value is exciting.
While that is the most logical way to subtract the FA signings from the losses its not the only way. They could be subtracted from the top values first, bottum values first, or by a more complex formula. If subtracted from the top first, it could lower the round of the first and/or second pick awarded but we would then end up with 5 picks. That seems the least likely way of doing it, the NFL only awards so many picks each year. Subtracting from the bottum values first should reduce the number of picks to 3. Using that method may or may not create some leftover value from Boss that potentially could be used to also lower the round of the last compensatory pick. That's reasonable and creates simuliar results to the ones in the article. The difference is because Boss's value is subtracted from Howard's instead of Gallery's. A more complex method is certainly possible but it would take insane research of past picks awarded just to guess at it.
I'm expecting 3 picks (before I projected 2 or 3) with a slight possiblity of a 4th pick after round 7. I'm expecting one at the end of round 3, one either round 4 or 5, and one either round 5 or 6. The reason I continue to be cautious of the 4th round expectation is because Miller played so little this season.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/
When I orginally did my own research last offseason, Gradkowski hadnt signed yet so I excluded him and later forgot about him in my more recent calculations. I also completely missed Thomas Howard who had a decent comeback year with the Bengals. Those two guys improve my previous estimates.
The article subtracts FAs signed starting at closest value to FAs lost and gives an estimate of a 3rd for Asomugha, a 4th for Miller, and a 5th for Howard. Gallery and Gradkowski were cancelled out in the article by Boss and Heyer. IMO its still possible to get an additional 7th round pick in this scenario because Gallery and Gradkowski could still be calculated to be slightly more valueable than Boss and Heyer. The potential to get a 5th round pick for Howard who I had previously dismissed as someone with no compensatory value is exciting.
While that is the most logical way to subtract the FA signings from the losses its not the only way. They could be subtracted from the top values first, bottum values first, or by a more complex formula. If subtracted from the top first, it could lower the round of the first and/or second pick awarded but we would then end up with 5 picks. That seems the least likely way of doing it, the NFL only awards so many picks each year. Subtracting from the bottum values first should reduce the number of picks to 3. Using that method may or may not create some leftover value from Boss that potentially could be used to also lower the round of the last compensatory pick. That's reasonable and creates simuliar results to the ones in the article. The difference is because Boss's value is subtracted from Howard's instead of Gallery's. A more complex method is certainly possible but it would take insane research of past picks awarded just to guess at it.
I'm expecting 3 picks (before I projected 2 or 3) with a slight possiblity of a 4th pick after round 7. I'm expecting one at the end of round 3, one either round 4 or 5, and one either round 5 or 6. The reason I continue to be cautious of the 4th round expectation is because Miller played so little this season.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
Let's see how many flags are thrown against him in Red and Yellow. My guess is at least a 30% decline due to jersey color alone.
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=374&f=411061Chiefs GM agrees with you. Mentions "Raiders Effect" of penalty calls while talking about Routt.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
It's a good deal for Routt who escaped with his guaranteed loot ($20M) the Raiders are still paying him. It's a good deal for KC as Routt isn't elite, but he's taking an unfair amount of backlash because of his bloated contract numbers. Flowers/Routt will be one of the better backfield tandems and they get the Raiders to pay almost half of his 2012 salary. Too bad Al Davis chose to overpay him that ludicrous contract. Can't go back in time. It was a terrible deal, and Routt having a poor 2011 season kinda sealed his fate with the Raiders. McKenzie made the right call. But so did KC in fortifying their backfield. Good reasonably priced deal on their part. I am skeptical the Raiders will be able to clear enough cap room to make a similar splash for one of the premier free agent corners on the market. Right now, it looks like Chimdi, DVD, and maybe Huff if he's kept to compete for the position. We need at least one more, probably 2 good FA corners. I'd say that is the priority in this free agency.
krsone21
Footballguy
I keep on hearing Tracy Porter's name being linked to Raiders since he worked with Dennise Allen in New Orleans. He would be the kinda mid priced range player I could see them going after since he won't demand elite dollars, especially with the salary cap situation the Raiders are in.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I wouldn't mind bringing in Porter, there is that connection with coach Allen. And he's a savvy veteran. I'd prefer they go after KC corner Brandon Carr. If they can get them both, so much the better. My pipedream wish is landing Dolphins NT Paul Soliai as he would be solidify the new base 3-4 defense. But he will be very expensive and it will take a lot of slicing and dicing to make that happen.
massraider
Footballguy
Miller missed one game.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Apologize for the long post. But this was a pretty candid interview with Carson Palmer that is encouraging. Despite all the cap issues and all the roster turnover, Palmer likes the young nucleus of the team and is committed to earning a championship, not just the playoffs. I know, easier said than done, but he's a guy that doesn't need the money and he's putting aside all the incredible changes going on around him and working his butt off to lead the team. Hopefully there are others with his committment. I think I am becoming a Carson Palmer fan. 
Chadstroma
Footballguy
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Keep in mind that cap number isnt the amount that would be saved by cutting a player nor is it the actual 2012 salary. Those are usually 3 different amounts. Sometimes very different.
Chaka
Footballguy
I know some people in here were hoping that the retention of Saunders indicated Knapp would not necessarily to return to the zone blocking scheme but the Raiders are officially returning to the zone blocking scheme.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Great, this was the same scheme that gave him turf toe issues and two miserable seasons to open his career in the NFL. I can't tell you how many times I saw DMC slip when trying to make the "one cut" in the ZBS.
Silver & Black
Footballguy
I don't understand people's reaction to this news. I love the fact that they are going zone blocking this year.Look what Foster has done in that system. And about 400 backs in Denver over the years. DMC is a specimen. He looked so dammed good the first several games this year before he got hurt. A total game changer when used properly.
The only concern I have about DMC is his health. If he is good to go, he's going to shatter records in the ZBS this year. He may catch 80 balls as well. He just needs to stay healthy...
Just my 2 cents.
LawFitz
Footballguy
It was widely reported that DMC broke out under Hue Jackson in large part because Hue Jax asked DMC what the problem was his first two seasons and DMC responded that it was the blocking scheme. They switched to power blocking as a result of this conversation in year 3 and DMC was off to the races. I love DMC's talent, but so far in his college and pro career he has succeeded tremendously when running behind a PBS and flopped miserably when running behind a ZBS.
I'll obviously be rooting for him no matter what next year, but he won't be on my fantasy team given this news and continued uncertainty with his foot.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Talk around the water cooler is that Branch will be franchised.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Confirmed. Good call.
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
McFadden looked pretty good his rookie year when Knapp was here. I do think Hue's system worked to McFadden's favor but it doesnt mean DMac wont do well with Knapp. Knapp and Cable didnt really see eye to eye.
Other rumors are that Wimbley's agent was told he had to restructure or get cut and that Satele wont be resigned. Another hole or two to plug.
Other rumors are that Wimbley's agent was told he had to restructure or get cut and that Satele wont be resigned. Another hole or two to plug.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Listening to Sirius it sure sounds like the Raiders are in cap hell. Wimbly is a $9M hit against the he is cut IIRC. And Seymore counts somewhere around 15M this year. Not good.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Isn't Satele best suited in the ZBS?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
McFadden was also running behind a much weaker line in those days of Cable's ZBS. With Cornell Green and Mario Henderson. The current group is much more versatile. That group was an invitation to meet at the QB. Also, with JaMarcus as QB, there wasn't the passing threat that DMC has now. It's scary to think that even with all the injuries the offense had last year, they were top 10 in most categories, and then think about the fact that DMC and Palmer never got the shot to together.So, better O-line, better coaches (includes the retaining of Al Saunders), more mature DMC who runs less upright as before, above avg vet QB, a quickly maturing group of wideouts. And the most important factor. Having a playmaker at QB at the same time on the field with DMC. Wow! Those of you who aren't seeing the dynamic are just doom & gloomers who read all the Raider critics and lap up that weak sauce.
Of course, it always is going to depend on DMC's health, but latest reports are he's ready to go right now (that's not necessarily saying he's 100%), but we'll take what we can get.
It's gonna be fun to watch, you all will see.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Another guy that has to be restructured or else is Kamerion Wimbley. It was reported that he's on the books for the upcoming season at $11M. $6.5M is guaranteed, and another $4.5M if he's on the roster later this month. But the real news is that there's a clause that guarantees him another $17.5M for future years. My link
Kam had 7 sacks, was very good at getting QB pressures, but other than a 4 sack game against a backup lineman, doesn't deserve near what he's getting paid, and can't cover worth a ####. He's already said he won't take a cut. He's as good as gone. Curry is another we have to cut or restructure soon. The LB corps are going to be remade soon. Kam's contract is the poster child of what GM Reggie Mackenzie dubbed "outta wack" contracts. He needs to shown the door.
Kam had 7 sacks, was very good at getting QB pressures, but other than a 4 sack game against a backup lineman, doesn't deserve near what he's getting paid, and can't cover worth a ####. He's already said he won't take a cut. He's as good as gone. Curry is another we have to cut or restructure soon. The LB corps are going to be remade soon. Kam's contract is the poster child of what GM Reggie Mackenzie dubbed "outta wack" contracts. He needs to shown the door.
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
No, that's false. I've said that Satele looks like a zbs lineman but I also said he struggled when we used it before. Everyone has always assumed he is and once people start saying something on the internet everybody and their brothers start repeating it. That's why I always try to form my own opinion. Satele has done better with the Raiders in the simpler power blocking scheme. Maybe with more experience he could end up doing better in a zbs but it wasnt the case before. I wasnt sure if we were going to bring him back to try the zbs with him again or not. Since Knapp isnt pushing to bring him back then I'll believe Satele really isnt suited for the zbs.
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Wimbley seemed to want to hit free agency last year which is why Davis tagged him and later made this out of whack contract in order to lower his 2011 cap hit. I dont expect him to take a huge paycut but if we still offer him more than he's likely to get on the market he might redo his deal. The problem is he's still going to get that 6.5 million if we cut him and that gives him some leverage in the negotiation. We want Wimbley back, we really do. I have a feeling he'd rather hit free agency though.
massraider
Footballguy
Franchising Branch shows me that they aren't too worried about the cap, and that they are trying to sign him long term.
Wimbley? If he isn't willing to restructure, see ya. I don't care if we have 7 mill in dead cap space, it'll save future money, and free up 4 more. He is a nice pass rusher, and I want to keep him, but not as a OLB. He always should have been a DE.
Tommy Kelly, Henderson, Curry, will all free up some money soon. Maybe even Heyward-Bey. I think Curry will renegotiate, I think he wants to be in Oakland, and knows he's not getting 5 mill per from anyone.
Of course, this all depends on if Allen wants him. We have no idea how the new staff views our defensive players.
Wimbley? If he isn't willing to restructure, see ya. I don't care if we have 7 mill in dead cap space, it'll save future money, and free up 4 more. He is a nice pass rusher, and I want to keep him, but not as a OLB. He always should have been a DE.
Tommy Kelly, Henderson, Curry, will all free up some money soon. Maybe even Heyward-Bey. I think Curry will renegotiate, I think he wants to be in Oakland, and knows he's not getting 5 mill per from anyone.
Of course, this all depends on if Allen wants him. We have no idea how the new staff views our defensive players.
massraider
Footballguy
Lotta info from Gutierrez here:
NFL Network is reporting the Raiders will cut linebacker Kamerion Wimbley if he does not agree to a restructure of his contract, figures obtained by CSNBayArea.com seemingly show the savings against this year's NFL salary cap would be relatively minimal -- somewhere between $1.95 million and $4.5 million.
The true savings would come in future years.
[RELATED: Raiders have more than $145 million in contracts]
Because while Pro Football Talk has reported that $6.5 million of Wimbley's $11-million base salary for 2012 is already guaranteed, the remaining $4.5 million becomes guaranteed if he is still on the roster on March 17. Plus, if Wimbley is still on the roster on that date, his entire $11 million base salary for 2013 becomes guaranteed, as well as $2 million of his $10 million salary for 2014. His $11.5 base salary for 2015 reportedly is not guaranteed.
In essence, and as the contract is currently structured, Wimbley is guaranteed $24 million over the next three seasons if he is on the Raiders' roster on March 17.
Cutting Wimbley before March 17 would save the Raiders $17.5 million going forward.
[RELATED: Report -- Raiders to place franchise tag on S Tyvon Branch]
Wimbley also has cap numbers of $11.85, $11.85, $10.85 and $12.25 million in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015, respectively.
What is still floating are Wimbley's "prorated amounts" of $850,000 per year, hence the discrepancy in savings a cut of Wimbley would mean for the Raiders this season. For example, sans the $6.5 million already guaranteed Wimbley, cutting him would have saved the Raiders $8.45 million against the cap this year.
[RELATED: Which big contracts will Raiders restructure?]
According to Adam Caplan of thesidelineview.com, "The reason why the Raiders set up the structure of the extension he signed last August was to get him off his franchise (tag) salary of over $11.3 million for 2011. They were able to lower his base salary from that total to just $750,000. And by agreeing to do this, Wimbley would pocket roughly $300,000 extra. Agents and/or players won’t normally agree to a restructuring (more or less a favor in some instances) unless there’s something, albeit small, in it for them. And they shouldn’t. Why blame the agent or player for a good deal for them but bad for the team? The team is the side that writes the check(s)."
Consider: the Raiders currently have $142,514,984 devoted to the cap, which has yet to be announced, though if it is last year's figure of $120.375 million, Oakland is more than $22 million over. The deadline to get under the capo is March 13 at 1 p.m. PT.
Further examination of the Raiders' budget shows approximately how much the team could save against the cap in 2012 by cutting certain players…
Wimbley -- $1,900,000-$4,500,000
LB Aaron Curry -- $5,757,500
FS Michael Huff -- $4,342,500 (roster bonus of $4 million due on March 15)
DT Tommy Kelly -- $3,125,730
TE Kevin Boss -- $2,500,000
DT John Henderson -- $4,000,000
CB Chris Johnson -- $3,500,000
RG Cooper Carlisle -- $2,700,000
FS Hiram Eugene -- $2,450,000
We save 17 mill bu cutting CJ, Curry, henderson, and Huff. We ain't in cap hell, we just haven't trimmed the fat yet. I actually hope we can re-negotiate Huff, but if we have to, we can carry that number.
NFL Network is reporting the Raiders will cut linebacker Kamerion Wimbley if he does not agree to a restructure of his contract, figures obtained by CSNBayArea.com seemingly show the savings against this year's NFL salary cap would be relatively minimal -- somewhere between $1.95 million and $4.5 million.
The true savings would come in future years.
[RELATED: Raiders have more than $145 million in contracts]
Because while Pro Football Talk has reported that $6.5 million of Wimbley's $11-million base salary for 2012 is already guaranteed, the remaining $4.5 million becomes guaranteed if he is still on the roster on March 17. Plus, if Wimbley is still on the roster on that date, his entire $11 million base salary for 2013 becomes guaranteed, as well as $2 million of his $10 million salary for 2014. His $11.5 base salary for 2015 reportedly is not guaranteed.
In essence, and as the contract is currently structured, Wimbley is guaranteed $24 million over the next three seasons if he is on the Raiders' roster on March 17.
Cutting Wimbley before March 17 would save the Raiders $17.5 million going forward.
[RELATED: Report -- Raiders to place franchise tag on S Tyvon Branch]
Wimbley also has cap numbers of $11.85, $11.85, $10.85 and $12.25 million in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015, respectively.
What is still floating are Wimbley's "prorated amounts" of $850,000 per year, hence the discrepancy in savings a cut of Wimbley would mean for the Raiders this season. For example, sans the $6.5 million already guaranteed Wimbley, cutting him would have saved the Raiders $8.45 million against the cap this year.
[RELATED: Which big contracts will Raiders restructure?]
According to Adam Caplan of thesidelineview.com, "The reason why the Raiders set up the structure of the extension he signed last August was to get him off his franchise (tag) salary of over $11.3 million for 2011. They were able to lower his base salary from that total to just $750,000. And by agreeing to do this, Wimbley would pocket roughly $300,000 extra. Agents and/or players won’t normally agree to a restructuring (more or less a favor in some instances) unless there’s something, albeit small, in it for them. And they shouldn’t. Why blame the agent or player for a good deal for them but bad for the team? The team is the side that writes the check(s)."
Consider: the Raiders currently have $142,514,984 devoted to the cap, which has yet to be announced, though if it is last year's figure of $120.375 million, Oakland is more than $22 million over. The deadline to get under the capo is March 13 at 1 p.m. PT.
Further examination of the Raiders' budget shows approximately how much the team could save against the cap in 2012 by cutting certain players…
Wimbley -- $1,900,000-$4,500,000
LB Aaron Curry -- $5,757,500
FS Michael Huff -- $4,342,500 (roster bonus of $4 million due on March 15)
DT Tommy Kelly -- $3,125,730
TE Kevin Boss -- $2,500,000
DT John Henderson -- $4,000,000
CB Chris Johnson -- $3,500,000
RG Cooper Carlisle -- $2,700,000
FS Hiram Eugene -- $2,450,000
We save 17 mill bu cutting CJ, Curry, henderson, and Huff. We ain't in cap hell, we just haven't trimmed the fat yet. I actually hope we can re-negotiate Huff, but if we have to, we can carry that number.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Here’s a good explanation of why Mark Davis has to shed money to preserve his operating cash-flow and how it all reached a tipping point that had to be corrected. Even as Al Davis was writing these ridiculous “outta wack” contracts, he was selling off significant chunks of the franchise, leaving no margin for error to maintain operational control for his son’s inheritance.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Wow. Fascinating and sad at the same time. Any doubt now that Al was actively hurting the Raiders in his final years?
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
There was a no cap year and Davis took advantage of it. When he orginally signed guys in 2011 like Seymour and Routt, the cap situation wasnt known and it could have been a no cap season. I think he was hoping it would be a no cap season and banked on it. When that didnt happen and the 2011 cap was announced and even below the 2010 cap, he had to restructure some of those contracts, hurting the 2012 cap.
Al truly believed in the just win motto. He wasnt trying to make himself a fat profit, he wanted to win. He knew his time was short and he wanted to see the Raiders win again at all costs.
As far as the cash flow, the lack of a new modern stadium has been killing the team. The Raiders were trying to get one in California but nobody would give them a new stadium. All these other teams got new stadiums, I think some teams have gotten two during the time Al was trying to get one. The Raiders are still trying and still cant find a place in California willing to give them a modern home. Its an ongoing issue. The Chargers are having a simuliar problem. The Rams left the state for simuliar reasons. The 49ers look like they are going to get a new home first. Maybe we'll be next... maybe.
Al truly believed in the just win motto. He wasnt trying to make himself a fat profit, he wanted to win. He knew his time was short and he wanted to see the Raiders win again at all costs.
As far as the cash flow, the lack of a new modern stadium has been killing the team. The Raiders were trying to get one in California but nobody would give them a new stadium. All these other teams got new stadiums, I think some teams have gotten two during the time Al was trying to get one. The Raiders are still trying and still cant find a place in California willing to give them a modern home. Its an ongoing issue. The Chargers are having a simuliar problem. The Rams left the state for simuliar reasons. The 49ers look like they are going to get a new home first. Maybe we'll be next... maybe.
CalBear
Footballguy
No one would give Al Davis a new stadium after his behavior during the return to Oakland, which not only didn't get him the stadium he wanted, it screwed up the stadium for the A's, too (and hosed Oakland taxpayers for years, and still is doing so). The chance becomes non-zero now that Al is gone.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Kirwin is continuing to say the Raiders cap problems are going to result in a product that lacks quality and depth on the field next year. I am absolutely shocked at some of the cap numbers of some marginal players on this team. Wimbly and Curry in particular. The Raiders are going to have a crap load of dead cap money on the payroll this year. I am somewhat surprised they didn't cut Seymore as that would have dropped 7+ Million off the payroll. Now his number is something like 15 million this coming season. Crazy!
Whatever Davis' motives as to the payroll it was short sighted on it is going to so on the field for the next couple of years.
Whatever Davis' motives as to the payroll it was short sighted on it is going to so on the field for the next couple of years.
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UnknownCoach
Footballguy
People also need to realize that 18 of the 22 million over the cap number is coming from Palmer and Curry... 2 guys traded for mid season last year. Another 10 or so million is coming from Routt even though he was cut.
The situation isnt as bad as it sounds. Palmer and Curry will likely receive extensions that lower their cap number. We can do this with Seymour as well. I'm only expecting about 3-4 more players to be cut and only 1-2 of those to be key players. Guys like Johnson, Eugene, maybe Henderson, and possibly Wimbley or Huff if they dont restructure. Wimbley being the most significant of those. Wimbley is what you want in a 3-4 OLB/DE which is why New England would love to get their hands on him.
The situation isnt as bad as it sounds. Palmer and Curry will likely receive extensions that lower their cap number. We can do this with Seymour as well. I'm only expecting about 3-4 more players to be cut and only 1-2 of those to be key players. Guys like Johnson, Eugene, maybe Henderson, and possibly Wimbley or Huff if they dont restructure. Wimbley being the most significant of those. Wimbley is what you want in a 3-4 OLB/DE which is why New England would love to get their hands on him.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
I hope you are right. When I listen to Kirwin talk about the Raider's cap situation it really depresses me. He compares it to the Titan's cap situation a few years back that dragged that organization into a real tail spin for a couple of years. I am wondering how competitive they are able to be in free agency even if they manage to get under the cap.
Garrett
Footballguy
I think you have to assume that Carson Palmer is...Happy to be back in California.Already very well off financially.Views the short term (3-4 years) with the Raiders as his final shot at NFL glory.I would be very surprised if he does not does not restructure into a much more cap friendly deal.'32 Counter Pass said:
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
footballstar
Footballguy
Any Raider fans upset that Bush was not tagged?
krsone21
Footballguy
I'm not upset about it. The Raiders can't afford to pay two RB's lots of money when the Raiders have a much bigger need on fixing their defense.Dont' get me wrong with McFaddens history of getting injured it would be nice to be able to keep Bush, but we have bigger needs to take care of first. I'm sure we will find a decent cheaper option either in free agency or via the draft.'footballstar said:
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Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Nope. Too much coin for a backup RB.'footballstar said:
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
nope. me neither.'footballstar said:
LawFitz
Footballguy
I'd love to have him back for back-up RB money. Franchise player, no.This was fully expected by Raider faithful. Our new GM was with the Packers for the last umpteen years. How often in recent memory have they paid legit money for RBs? Expect us to give DMC one more season to show he can stay healthy and to bring in a seventh rounder or UDFA to be the thunder to DMC's (and Taiwan Jones') lightning.Bush has the tools to be a 3-down RB somewhere, but not in Oakland with DMC around.'footballstar said:
joey
Footballguy
with McKenzie's GB connections, any chance they bring in Ryan Grant on the cheap (he's an UFA, right?) as a complement to DMC?
And he can also play full-time if needed if DMC goes down (Grant looked pretty solid at the end of this past season when Starks
went down).
Seems like the perfect chance to bring in an older "just in case" vet RB to plug in for part of a season if needed.
Then the year after, rinse and repeat with the next cheap vet RB.
The key to our running game is a healthy and explosive DMC. Everything else is just a stop-gap and band-aid, so it might
as well be an inexpensive band-aid.
And he can also play full-time if needed if DMC goes down (Grant looked pretty solid at the end of this past season when Starks
went down).
Seems like the perfect chance to bring in an older "just in case" vet RB to plug in for part of a season if needed.
Then the year after, rinse and repeat with the next cheap vet RB.
The key to our running game is a healthy and explosive DMC. Everything else is just a stop-gap and band-aid, so it might
as well be an inexpensive band-aid.
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Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Grant is indeed a UFA and I wouldn't mind seeing him in Oakland at all. Assuming the price is right of course.
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Rumors out there that Seymour and Huff have agreed to contract extensions saving nearly 12 million in cap space. Seymour now signed through 2013 if true.
I imagine they are still negotiating with Palmer, Curry, and hopefully Wimbley. It might be possible to restructure some other guys like DHB, Kelly, Lechler, or McFadden but those are less obvious. Will also help if Branch can agree on a long term deal before free agency begins next week. Wimbley is the biggest question mark because he hasnt shown a real desire to remain with the Raiders and has 6.5 million dollars he can walk away with which gives him a lot of leverage.
Those moves should get us under the cap by Tuesday with or without Wimbley on the roster. Then there are a few guys who might be cut to give us more room to sign free agents. The cut friendly contracts are Eugene, Chris Johnson, Henderson, and Carlisle. Curry also has a cut friendly contract but its more likely he agrees to an exension. I think Carlisle stays since we are moving back to zone blocking where he has made a name for himself. Eugene is a likely cut who could be resigned for less if desired. Henderson and Johnson are very questionable because of their health issues and age. Boss or Kelly could be a suprise cut but they are unlikely because their contracts arent as cut friendly and they are key players in good health.
I imagine they are still negotiating with Palmer, Curry, and hopefully Wimbley. It might be possible to restructure some other guys like DHB, Kelly, Lechler, or McFadden but those are less obvious. Will also help if Branch can agree on a long term deal before free agency begins next week. Wimbley is the biggest question mark because he hasnt shown a real desire to remain with the Raiders and has 6.5 million dollars he can walk away with which gives him a lot of leverage.
Those moves should get us under the cap by Tuesday with or without Wimbley on the roster. Then there are a few guys who might be cut to give us more room to sign free agents. The cut friendly contracts are Eugene, Chris Johnson, Henderson, and Carlisle. Curry also has a cut friendly contract but its more likely he agrees to an exension. I think Carlisle stays since we are moving back to zone blocking where he has made a name for himself. Eugene is a likely cut who could be resigned for less if desired. Henderson and Johnson are very questionable because of their health issues and age. Boss or Kelly could be a suprise cut but they are unlikely because their contracts arent as cut friendly and they are key players in good health.
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krsone21
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I have read that McKenzie likes Curry, so I don't think he will be cut, but I can see a possible restructuring or extension of his contract. This is getting interesting the closer March 13th gets.
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Raiderfan32904
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Wimbley remains a key focus and perhaps our biggest FA aquisition, if you look at his impending deparature because of cap issues as a sure thing. He's versatile in both the 3-4 and 4-3, and is excellent at pressuring the QB. Effective pass rushers are a commodity in the NFL and are paid a premium around the league. It would be a coup if we can keep him somehow.
Wimbley has to know that he is overpaid, and understand that if he is cut, he'll take his nice $6.5M and sign elsewhere for a decent contract. But he won't make up all the crazy guaranteed money in his previous contract. That to me is the Raiders leverage point. If they are able to strike a deal where Wimbley spreads his cap hit out while eliminating or reducing balloon roster bonuses, his restructure could lead us to be able to go after a key FA acquisition like a CB or DL that is needed to reshape the team for the transition to the 3-4 defense.
Wimbley's a good fit, and I hope he stays. I think Reggie Mackenzie understands that the near term priority is strengthening the defense. It's good to see both Seymour and Huff restructure. Seymour's move tells me that he's not just here for the paycheck. That he wants to be a Raider. When he came over from New England, it was not so clear. Glad that Huff restructured because he clearly didn't live up to his contract year play level. Huff has always been a good soldier, and he's versatile. Willing to man the corner, but will probably be free safety. Still a great insurance piece to have on the roster going into free agency and a dire need of a vet corner or two with only rookie incumbent corners and an old vet on his last legs (CJ) that's left of the backfield.
Great moves by R. Mackenzie. His plan isn't clear right now, and just coming into focus. But as the roster cuts and restructures are reported, and we see the impact to the cap, then we can dare to dream of being able to make a splash or two in free agency and sign some key guys needed to revamp the defense overnight. 
Wimbley has to know that he is overpaid, and understand that if he is cut, he'll take his nice $6.5M and sign elsewhere for a decent contract. But he won't make up all the crazy guaranteed money in his previous contract. That to me is the Raiders leverage point. If they are able to strike a deal where Wimbley spreads his cap hit out while eliminating or reducing balloon roster bonuses, his restructure could lead us to be able to go after a key FA acquisition like a CB or DL that is needed to reshape the team for the transition to the 3-4 defense.
Wimbley's a good fit, and I hope he stays. I think Reggie Mackenzie understands that the near term priority is strengthening the defense. It's good to see both Seymour and Huff restructure. Seymour's move tells me that he's not just here for the paycheck. That he wants to be a Raider. When he came over from New England, it was not so clear. Glad that Huff restructured because he clearly didn't live up to his contract year play level. Huff has always been a good soldier, and he's versatile. Willing to man the corner, but will probably be free safety. Still a great insurance piece to have on the roster going into free agency and a dire need of a vet corner or two with only rookie incumbent corners and an old vet on his last legs (CJ) that's left of the backfield.
Great moves by R. Mackenzie.
His plan isn't clear right now, and just coming into focus. But as the roster cuts and restructures are reported, and we see the impact to the cap, then we can dare to dream of being able to make a splash or two in free agency and sign some key guys needed to revamp the defense overnight.
LawFitz
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You're giving them too much credit. They restructured. They didn't take pay cuts.This only means they count less against this year's cap and more against future years. It's just kicking the can down the road if either player doesn't perform up to their contracts and has to be cut later (likely for Seymour as he ages, and possible also for Huff since he's been average at best so far and is due for some nice pay levels in upcoming years).
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