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I don't know about that. Julio's the best player involved for sure but carries a little risk himself. Wasn't his foot injury a broken screw from a previous injury? Or am I misremembering that? Shorts and Jordan have a lot of value as well. Hit on even one of the 2nd's, add in the first the next year. Again, for a rebuilding team I think I'm all over the Blackmon side. But I realize I'm probably in the minority.
this deal would strongly depend on roster requirements. If small rosters like FFPC probably going Julio.
12x30 in season, expanding to 35 for offseason. I acquired Julio and have like 16 more picks although all in 4th and 5th.
In this case I would take Julio side also though I don't think it's horrible for the Blackmon side. Still, only 12 teams and average size rosters means lots of unrostered players and a premium on the players at the top.
Probably going against the grain but I like the A side of this deal. Hankerson is worthless and I still like Murray and 1.04 but its close
Give me Amendola, I own him in one of my dynasties and I would need an early second to move him
I agree with this. 25+ man rosters with a taxi squad I would take the Cameron side.
I actually like the murray and pick 4 side by a lot.
I think everyone knows that. That's why his price is nowhere near ADP's.
We know YOU wouldnt, lol.
I thought the trade was pretty even. I won the league last year and have Peyton in what is likely his final year and was hoping to make one more run. Hate trading away the upside of Tyner but needed an immediate boost at WR. The other owner has no chance in 2014 but is absolutely loaded with future devy talent. Should be a win-win for both teams. Not a trade I would make in every league.
This type of thing is probably why I have avoided devy-leagues.
I too likely will never bother with a Devy league. Got enough to do NOW as it is in dynasty leagues. Not sure I want to get into leagues where whoever spends the most time reading up on 18 year old players will rule the league for years and years.
I think that's pretty obvious, really. Hilton is a nice player, but if you offered him for someone like Dez Bryant or Jimmy Graham you would be laughed out of the building. So we can agree that there's a significant gap in value between Hilton and the most valuable players in FF.
I read plenty, don't care about dev. Players
awful; TE bonus helps though
I was not involved in the trade...we have 3 year contract year eligibility...I am thinking Green should have gotten them more...
It was a joke towards EBF, not meant to criticize your reading ability or dedication. Sorry.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
I can understand criticizing, or at least actively disliking or even ignoring, a format you don't enjoy (or assume you wouldn't enjoy).
That trade is really awful.maxhyde said:
I do not understand the Cameron love now that Chud and Norv are gone. Gordon obviously is an elite performer and will get the targets while Cameron had 1 TD from weeks 8-16 and only 2 from week 5 on. He only had one game of 6 catches or more in that time with only one game of double digit points in my standard ppr dyno in that time as well.Matt said:
Yeah, there were a lot of Cameron owners who were pretty much giving up on Cameron around weeks 12-13 before he put in that big performance in week 14 again. In average points per game between weeks 5-13 he was TE21...weeks 1-4 he was TE2. So yeah, it will be interesting to see how he is valued this offseason among dynasty owners. I have a feeling that those who did not own Cameron this past season will value him higher than those who did. But the FF experts are pretty much across the board ranking Cameron as the TE3-TE4 for dynasty. There are a few who have him as number 5 or even 6, but that's it. I can see why considering that Cameron has put points up on the board, but at the same time I would say that the gap between Cameron as a TE3 and the young receiving TEs ranked TE10-16 is not that big. Some of those guys can easily outperform Cameron if things click for them in terms of opportunity. I would say there is quite a big risk involved in paying for Cameron as a TE3-4.
Very well said. I take notice on the fact that he was more of a below average TE for most the year, while only being elite for a few weeks I think Cameron has a world of talent but his situation and more than just average inconsistencies are troubling. The reason people love him is they see the season as a whole, but I assure you owning him last year in his best season still left me with a lot of low scoring games.
This is my thinking as well. For me personally, increased complexity=more fun, more challenge. Whether it's delineating IDP scoring or the devy aspect.
I agree with this. You gotta cut it off somewhere... What's next - high school devy leagues? Better yet, as soon as physically blessed athletes have offspring you can draft and hold them on your team. I think there are enough moving parts in a dynasty leagues and enough joy can be provided from projecting out a career from the draft on. You still have motivation to follow college football with the regular dynasty format. I don't want to be forced to follow high school too... Life is too short.
You did cut it off. That's fine but bashing guys because they want to spend that time and get a deeper attachment to players makes no sense to me. Maybe they do have/make the time.
The Browns were also a below average team with below average talent. 3 guys stand out on that team and I can't draft/use an OT
Hmm Wallace went for a mid 2nd in one of my 16 team leagues a week or so ago. Not sure how to account for the Bb dollars, maybe that accounts for the difference.
