steelers1080
Footballguy
This trade makes way more sense now. Didn't know it was a cap league. Thought it was just standard dynasty. Like the trade with how crappy Forsett is playing.
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**Official 2015 In-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I would need to be really deep at RB to do that. Dion is for real. He's going to finish as a top 10 back. And he just turned 25. Same age as Latavius Murray and almost exactly a year older than Carlos Hyde.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Evans all day.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Dez side, even though Randle isn't going to be the starter long.
And Brady/Gronk side. Gronk compares with Charles, Brady blows away Bridgewater (don't think he'll ever be more than alex smith value), and Evans is much better value than Graham.
steelers1080
Footballguy
To preface this, Team A was crazy deep at WR (Dez, Julio, OBJ, Evans, Gordon, Martavis, White) but very thin at RB or had underperformers (Murray, Hill, Randle, Coleman, Ellington).
Team A Gives:
Odell Beckham Jr
Joseph Randle
2016 3rd Round Pick
Team B Gives:
Le'Veon Bell
2016 2nd Round Pick
Team A Gives:
Odell Beckham Jr
Joseph Randle
2016 3rd Round Pick
Team B Gives:
Le'Veon Bell
2016 2nd Round Pick
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Agreed.
The Gator
Footballguy
Lacy/Forte in nonPPR
pick easily.
I might buy Karlos for that...really depends on whether or not I own McCoy and have another TE (assumed Bennett is Martellus)
picks
Evans
Dez
Gronk side...think that is an gross overpay for a QB in an 8 team 7 keeper league
OBJ for me pretty easily.
Given the teams I can see why I just prefer WR's
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
16 team Non-PPR:
Team A gives:
Kevin White
2016 1st
2018 1st
Team B gives:
DeAndre Hopkins
Knile Davis
Team A's picks are perennially late (12-16)
Team A owns Charles
Team A is me
Team A gives:
Kevin White
2016 1st
2018 1st
Team B gives:
DeAndre Hopkins
Knile Davis
Team A's picks are perennially late (12-16)
Team A owns Charles
Team A is me
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Gave:
James Jones
Got:
Breshad Perriman
Gave:
James Jones
Got:
Breshad Perriman
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Gave: Josh Robinson and 2016 3rd rounder. Got 2016 2nd rounder (same owner as the 3rd rounder so 1 full round tradeup) I wanted to clear roster space to pick up Javorious Allen. So basically gave Robinson + 3rd for All + 2nd.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
steelers1080
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
12 Team ppr qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/2 flex rb/wr/te
Team A - Dez Bryant/Kendall Wright
Team B- Demaryius Thomas/Reuben Randle
Team A - Dez Bryant/Kendall Wright
Team B- Demaryius Thomas/Reuben Randle
Pwingles
Footballguy
Pwingles
Footballguy
Alshon, pick makes it very close tho
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Seems fair to me but I still like White
Perriman for me pretty easily
Nicely done
xpiredcoupon
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
12 team PPR. Start 1 QB, 1-5 RB, 1-5 WR, 1-5 TE.
Gave:
Gio Bernard
Breshad Perriman
Tyler Lockett
2016 2nd
Got:
Sammy Watkins
Gave:
Gio Bernard
Breshad Perriman
Tyler Lockett
2016 2nd
Got:
Sammy Watkins
Pretty reasonable both ways imo. It would really depend on my team but I like Watkins.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Possibly. I'm also a big fan of Watkins. This might have been an overpay if he continues to have health problems his whole career, but I'm a believer.
This deal was really about 1-2 years from now when my roster really comes together. There are a couple monster teams in this league and I'm aiming to be the next one, trying to corner the market on the next wave of stud WR's in a league that starts five, even if it means overpaying a bit now. I paid a HAUL for Cooper last week, but I think it will be worth it.
Watkins now becomes arguably my 5th WR. Evans-Hopkins-Jeffery-Cooper-Watkins, to go along with Wilson at QB, Lewis at RB, and Reed at TE. It may come together more quickly than I expect or it may not work out at all, of course.
Sure I guess but it looks like Gio and a bunch of later picks that may or may not pan out for a guy that some still expect to be a very good WR someday.
I think it definitely has the potential to be alot but Watkins potential is better imo
fredsavage
Footballguy
Few trades 12 team qrrwwwtf .75ppr
Gave Carlos Hyde
Received Kevin White (also own Jeffery fwiw)
Gave Tyrod Taylor
Received 2016 1st likely 8-12
Gave ASJ
Received Brandon Coleman and right to swap 2016 2nd rounders
Gave Carlos Hyde
Received Kevin White (also own Jeffery fwiw)
Gave Tyrod Taylor
Received 2016 1st likely 8-12
Gave ASJ
Received Brandon Coleman and right to swap 2016 2nd rounders
Like the 1st 2 deals.
Not a fan of the last but I am not overly big on ASJ ever staying healthy either...I just think you could get more for him
Interesting deal.
I like the Dez side but can see where team needs might dictate a move like this.
fredsavage
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I might be a genius or a moron.
Traded.
Mid first 2016
New England d
For
Denver d
Denver dis currently the 4th highest scoring player in the league (performance d scoring) at 27.67 ppg.
Those points are double the 5th place d (Carolina). And only three defenses are in the top 50 scorers in this league. Broncos schedule looks pretty good too.
I'll probably regret it in April but right no I think I added a solid 6 to 7 points per week. I am currently in 5th place. If I had been playing Denver for the first three weeks if be in first. All play league.
Also I own the 1st rounder of the team I just took Denver d off. He's in last and just lost his best scorer. So I'm hoping that he ends up in last so I get the #1 overall.
Traded.
Mid first 2016
New England d
For
Denver d
Denver dis currently the 4th highest scoring player in the league (performance d scoring) at 27.67 ppg.
Those points are double the 5th place d (Carolina). And only three defenses are in the top 50 scorers in this league. Broncos schedule looks pretty good too.
I'll probably regret it in April but right no I think I added a solid 6 to 7 points per week. I am currently in 5th place. If I had been playing Denver for the first three weeks if be in first. All play league.
Also I own the 1st rounder of the team I just took Denver d off. He's in last and just lost his best scorer. So I'm hoping that he ends up in last so I get the #1 overall.
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One More Rep
Footballguy
Denver724
Footballguy
I can't wait to see the responses this trade gets. Never seen a 1st traded for a D. Ballsy move for sure.
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Well seeing as I picked them up for free at the start of the year in most of my leagues that require a D (except the one I owned BUF) I think it is way too much for a defense. I hope someone offers me a 2nd or 1st for them. The Broncos are probably one of the better ones I doubt they are top 3 at the end of the year. They haven't really played an offense that is any good yet. Thankfully MIN is also not a good offense so they may keep it up another week
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Who do you think is going to pass them up?
For me it isn't really about the teams passing them as it is that most years 200pts is a top D. DEN is on pace for 250+ so I am just playing history thinking that is unrealistic they keep the pace up. After the bye their schedule gets much tougher imo
I think there are 4 I would expect to outpace them eventually though the Seahawks and Cards I think are going to and probably the I think the Jets have a shot as does BUF.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Meh, they have the packers and the pats but who else?
JackReacher
Footballguy
Broncos owner who would sell in heartbeat for any 1st, competing or not. Defenses are so random especially in dyno
Did this deal last week and I would like to say when I did the deal I fully anticipated Graham having a big game against the Bears, in fact he got targetted less than I thought he would so no sellers remorse due to that:
FFPC so 1.5 TE PPR
Gave:
Jimmy Graham, Forsett
Got:
Yeldon, ASJ, and 2016#1 which is actually my own pick back and projects as late first.
FFPC so 1.5 TE PPR
Gave:
Jimmy Graham, Forsett
Got:
Yeldon, ASJ, and 2016#1 which is actually my own pick back and projects as late first.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Can't believe anyone would sell a 1st for a DEF in dynasty, that's absolutely crazy.
How many years could you have tried to pinpoint the overwhelming best defense after week 3 and how many of those years would you have been totally wrong?
How many years could you have tried to pinpoint the overwhelming best defense after week 3 and how many of those years would you have been totally wrong?
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Yup.JackReacher said:
I made a post a few years back that I tried to find, but could not. The essence is that in order for a player to be valuable, he needs to be PRODUCTIVE, PREDICTABLE, and SCARCE. I play in leagues with really high defensive performance scoring, and even then, defenses aren't valuable enough to warrant a 1st round pick. They pass the first test, but fail the next two.
Edit: Found it! https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/683548-discussion-are-top-defs-worth-spending-a-10th-11th-round-pick/?p=15710447
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
We'll see. Let's take a peak at how those first round rookies picks are doing right now.
1. Gurley - nothing
2. Cooper - playing great. Still just a low end WR2
3. Kevin White - nothing
4. Mevlin Gordon - bleck
5. Devante Parker - nothing
6. Brashad Perriman - nothing
7. Nelson Agholor - nothing
8. TJ Yeldon - not much
9. DGB - not much
10. Ameer Abdullah - doing ok, currently a low RB2
11. Tevin Coleman - not much
12. Duke Johnson - meh.
How are these draft picks more predictable, productive or scarce? Look I know I'm going against Dynasty dogma here. That's why I said I'm either a genius or a moron. Maybe neither, maybe both. That pick might have been Beckham. Odell or Dorial.
1. Gurley - nothing
2. Cooper - playing great. Still just a low end WR2
3. Kevin White - nothing
4. Mevlin Gordon - bleck
5. Devante Parker - nothing
6. Brashad Perriman - nothing
7. Nelson Agholor - nothing
8. TJ Yeldon - not much
9. DGB - not much
10. Ameer Abdullah - doing ok, currently a low RB2
11. Tevin Coleman - not much
12. Duke Johnson - meh.
How are these draft picks more predictable, productive or scarce? Look I know I'm going against Dynasty dogma here. That's why I said I'm either a genius or a moron. Maybe neither, maybe both. That pick might have been Beckham. Odell or Dorial.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
If defenses are so random, how do you explain Seattle being the top scoring D two season in a row? Chances of that happening would be about 1 in 1024 if it was truly random.JackReacher said:
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