Louche
Footballguy
Yeah...but you have to consider the timing as well. Those three late '15 1sts are going to be money on draft day and through the pre-draft process. You could trade them for '16 1sts plus additional value on draft day.
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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
I guess I could have added context to that devy...95% certain Treadwell/Boyd/Elliot are 1/2/3
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Footballguy
Yeah I do not play Devy but I would still prefer the earlier pick over Cameron and the later picks. I know Henry and Tyner are guys I would take a shot on. I also like Duke Williams a lot
Thanks.
No, not in a rebuild, although getting younger is always a plus. Paying the 2nd (hopefully a late one) for Martin was just a gamble and extra RB depth. I thought the 2nd was a decent price.
The Alshon trade represents a small premium, but being a trade between two of the better teams, only a premium trade would make any sense. Alshon was my WR4, but he occupied a starting flex spot. Now I have a hole in my lineup and the other team is significantly improved. I wasn't looking to trade Alshon, but I felt like I was getting just enough on this deal to roll the dice (barely).
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ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
I'm the one who traded Maclin and agree he's worth more. Only reason trade was made was to force myself to draft Amari at #3 rookie pick so I wouldn't be tempted to take a 2nd tier rb over him.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
That is appealing, although I will say that trading a late 1st for a future 1st in my FFPC leagues (even straight up) is getting much harder than it used to be. Teams are getting stingier with their future 1sts (as they probably should be).
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Well yes, true. If you keep trading ANYTHING for the future you will accumulate more value.
I would actually advocate trading all three 1sts he got this year to pick up three 2016 1sts plus maybe a couple fliers or other picks in mid rounds this year.
Like I said, roster dependent, and the value is his way with the picks.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If I am competing I will take Forte there. If I am rebuilding I will take Alf and the picks as long as I can get another 1st for Alf
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Amazingly the better teams still wont but the team who don't look that great will. Go figure.
But yeah, it's getting harder. People wising up to that.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Prolly because owners are now required to pay part of next year's entry fees when they trade a future #1. Long over due IMO.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Nah, it's just harder in general. Even after all fees are paid.
But yeah, it's nice they make teams do that
Tibereas
Footballguy
I've got a fairly short window and it's a start 1rb league. The roster is now Manning, Forte, Calvin, Jordy, R. White, J Graham. Alf was my best Rb and I lost the championship game by less then a point. Maybe I could have gotten better but I'll take Forte in PPR for the next few years.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah I don't play in IDP leagues so not sure how Borland compares to Jackson there - but otherwise this seems like a ridiculously bad deal for the team sending Julio away.
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Pwingles
Footballguy
If the scoring is equal, its better, but still prefer julio. If the idp scoring puts them on par w the offensive guys, borland would be the obj equiv, imo
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
12 team PPR (FFPC)
Adrian Peterson
for
Cordarrelle Patterson
Alfred Blue
pick 34
pick 70
Adrian Peterson
for
Cordarrelle Patterson
Alfred Blue
pick 34
pick 70
Tough call for me. I want Cruz to come back 100% but concerned
I think I will take Charles Johnson
Julio by a mile
Good play for both sides imo
Jeremy
Footballguy
Perfect example of what you're talking about.
It's so frustrating for the teams not involved. About the only thing that instills parity in a league is the tough teams having to draft late the following year. When a league champion can still draft in the top half of the 1st round seemingly every year with trades like this it makes it so hard for the rest of us to catch up. Don't get me wrong, it's a great strategy for the contender, but you wish those weaker teams would be a little smarter and more patient.
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jeaton6
Footballguy
steelcityman
Footballguy
I traded away Richard Rogers to get Mike Crabtree. Hope he lands someplace he is used, like Indy or dare I say Cleveland.
My WRs are super thin.
My WRs are super thin.
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Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Sammy Watkins
Keenan Robinson
Steve Smith
2016 1st (prolly 10-12)
For
Antonio Brown
Keenan Robinson
Steve Smith
2016 1st (prolly 10-12)
For
Antonio Brown
Soulfly3
Footballguy
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
He's only had one season out of 6 where he was start-able. I'd much rather take a punt with a 2nd round rookie pick.
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Footballguy
I hope not. I was assuming the IDP (LB WAS)
Sammy and the 1st are the only 2 pieces I would care about in that deal and I think it is a good deal for both assuming the Sammy side is deep at WR or rebuilding. Cheap for Brown but not terrible
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Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Golden Tate for pick 4 basically eh?
I am thinking most people will take the pick, but Tate probably outproduces the 4th pick.
Looks like the going rate for Gordon has been a late 2nd or future 2nd so far.
I am thinking most people will take the pick, but Tate probably outproduces the 4th pick.
Looks like the going rate for Gordon has been a late 2nd or future 2nd so far.
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pizzatyme
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
1.04 for me.
Calvin missed or was basically a decoy in 5 games last year. In those five games Tate had 4 100+ yard receiving games and 3 TDs. In his 11 games with a healthy calvin he had one 100+ yard receiving game and 1 TD.
In those 11 games with a healthy Calvin he averaged 66 ypg and 0.1 TD per game, or 1060/1 over a 16 game season.
Calvin missed or was basically a decoy in 5 games last year. In those five games Tate had 4 100+ yard receiving games and 3 TDs. In his 11 games with a healthy calvin he had one 100+ yard receiving game and 1 TD.
In those 11 games with a healthy Calvin he averaged 66 ypg and 0.1 TD per game, or 1060/1 over a 16 game season.
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