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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Not a bad pick. If he can stop beating his girlfriends.
Before Leinart fell, I thought Sims would be headed to Arizona at #10 or the Eagles at #14 if he didn't go to the Lions
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aardball44
Footballguy
Reach.
Lions should've traded with Denver at #15 and an extra pick, then take the BPA.
Lions should've traded with Denver at #15 and an extra pick, then take the BPA.
aardball44
Footballguy
What happened with Millen and the "character issue"?
aardball44
Footballguy
I should've prefaced what the Lions "should've" done by saying that's what I was hoping would happen.Notice Denver did end up trading up, just not with the Lions.
aardball44
Footballguy
I agree, Denver played it just right.I'm still stewing about the fact that the Lions would've had Bush drop in their laps if they'd only been slightly more inept in 2005.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
With 5 concussions, the only draft Ernie Sims should be going Top 10 in is a death pool.
SofaKings.
Footballguy
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I hope so. It'd be great if he could pan out because on the football side it looks like he could be a pretty decent player. Concussions are bad news though. Each one makes the next one that more likely.Yeah...Lions always seem to draft pretty risky players. I'm just hoping that they had him examined pretty rigorously by doctors if they took him this high.
interesting if true
whoknew
Footballguy
From Killer:
Sims makes perfect sense
While some fans believed Sims would last until the middle of the first round, that simply isn't true. Sims was very highly rated and the Lions were not going to trade out of that pick unless they were able to rob somebody.
In Rod Marinelli's new defense, an effective and playmaking weakside linebacker is a must and Sims fits that role. Because of his ability in coverage and dropping back in zones, he'll be part of Detroit's nickel package.
In some ways, Sims will help Detroit's defense more than A.J. Hawk because he'll be on the field for all downs.
Sims makes perfect sense
While some fans believed Sims would last until the middle of the first round, that simply isn't true. Sims was very highly rated and the Lions were not going to trade out of that pick unless they were able to rob somebody.
In Rod Marinelli's new defense, an effective and playmaking weakside linebacker is a must and Sims fits that role. Because of his ability in coverage and dropping back in zones, he'll be part of Detroit's nickel package.
In some ways, Sims will help Detroit's defense more than A.J. Hawk because he'll be on the field for all downs.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
From a Bills fan standpoint, would that be a good or bad thing to get the guy the Lions wanted?
link to nfl.com scouting report
This is the link to the scouting report on Ernie Sims. Suprisingly, I don't see anything about the concussions. How serious were the concussions?
This is the link to the scouting report on Ernie Sims. Suprisingly, I don't see anything about the concussions. How serious were the concussions?
if these teams were both interested in Whitner, he must really suck
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
I'm not a Lions fan by the way:
Sims will be better than Hawk.
Sims will be better than Hawk.
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
I think Hawk is way overrated. It's not like he is the next Urlacher. He may be the next Spielman though.I am a Lions fan, and I highly doubt this.In FF maybe, but Hawk will be the better LB in the real league.I hope you are right!
CharlesRoyKevin
Footballguy
The 5 concussions is only talk. Kiper was on local radio yesterday and said that from the people he had talked with that there was only 1 noted concussion while sims was at FSU. He then said, almost directly quoted, "there is a difference between having your bell rung and a concussion." He made it sound like sims had knocked himself silly several times and maybe held out for precautionary reasons with FSU being extra careful with head injuries, but that he did not have severe enough hits to cause trauma to his brain(concussion). He also said that sims had been checked out very closely by several teams and that if there was indeed an issue with concussions you would not see this type of interest in sims. Having said all that, I really wanted Huff, but sims should fit our new system and hopefully it works out like it did for D.Brooks.
2nd round- I like D.Joseph, could see us taking a CB too. Hopefully unless Joseph is still there we take more d help, CB, Safety, DE. Maybe Jennings, Lawson, not sure what S might be there
2nd round- I like D.Joseph, could see us taking a CB too. Hopefully unless Joseph is still there we take more d help, CB, Safety, DE. Maybe Jennings, Lawson, not sure what S might be there
CharlesRoyKevin
Footballguy
They are dreaming, but i would love it if he did
CharlesRoyKevin
Footballguy
I have seen Joseph going to the Lions in several mocks in the 2nd, so there's definitely a chance. Joseph seems to be able to play both guard and tackle so he would be ideal since they need a G and wouldn't mind upgrading RT if possible also.
RestoreTheROAR
Footballguy
I cant believe some of you guys are upset over the Ernie Sims pick. Have you seen him play? Well i have. This guy has heart. He plays with passion! You'd be hard pressed to find a linebacker with a better motor or better speed and intensity than Ernie. He has had a few concussions, which is what people seem to put too much emphasis on. He isn't a guy that you worry about bringing it. He plays with a high level of intenisity, sometimes too much. He got far too many late hit penalties & sometimes over pursues on plays. He will be all over the field & free to roam with big Shaun Rogers at DT. He put Vernon Davis, arguably the best TE in the draft, on LOCK. He had a diving INT when guarding him. He also had a one-handed interception against Miami.
Pros: Has a knack for slipping blocks or avoiding them, though is also quite strong for his size and will take them on as well. Has a very good first step and shows a quick burst of speed that allows him to defeat blocking angles early on the down. He pursues sideline to sideline and takes precise angles to the ball with the hitting power to finish the play consistently. Ideally suited for a stack position that protects him and allows him to flow to the ball. As a pass-rusher, he has nice upside with the ability to come on the delay blitz with fine timing and the ability to finish the play with NFL-type explosion.
Cons: Some concerns of playing over a tight end regularly and holding up in run support. He lacks bulk and can get bounced around at the point of attack at times, getting easily engulfed by bigger blockers.
Numbers: Over his junior and final seasons, he had 66 tackles, 9 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, one fumble recovery, 6 passes defended and two picks. At the Combine, he checked in at just under 6-feet and 231 pounds. He ran a 4.54 with a 41-inch vertical jump, 10-foot, 5-inch broad jump and 25 reps in lifting.
If you look back to his sophomore season, you wil see his numbers were pretty higher. His numbers took a hit his junior year, but thats because teams gamedplaned to run the ball AWAY from him. FSU also rotates LBs alot.
DEFENSE STATISTICS
Int UT AT TT TL S BR FR
2005 2 22 50 72 10 2.5 4 0
2004 0 41 45 86 9 4.5 5 0
Heres an article on him
Pros: Has a knack for slipping blocks or avoiding them, though is also quite strong for his size and will take them on as well. Has a very good first step and shows a quick burst of speed that allows him to defeat blocking angles early on the down. He pursues sideline to sideline and takes precise angles to the ball with the hitting power to finish the play consistently. Ideally suited for a stack position that protects him and allows him to flow to the ball. As a pass-rusher, he has nice upside with the ability to come on the delay blitz with fine timing and the ability to finish the play with NFL-type explosion.
Cons: Some concerns of playing over a tight end regularly and holding up in run support. He lacks bulk and can get bounced around at the point of attack at times, getting easily engulfed by bigger blockers.
Numbers: Over his junior and final seasons, he had 66 tackles, 9 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, one fumble recovery, 6 passes defended and two picks. At the Combine, he checked in at just under 6-feet and 231 pounds. He ran a 4.54 with a 41-inch vertical jump, 10-foot, 5-inch broad jump and 25 reps in lifting.
If you look back to his sophomore season, you wil see his numbers were pretty higher. His numbers took a hit his junior year, but thats because teams gamedplaned to run the ball AWAY from him. FSU also rotates LBs alot.
DEFENSE STATISTICS
Int UT AT TT TL S BR FR
2005 2 22 50 72 10 2.5 4 0
2004 0 41 45 86 9 4.5 5 0
Heres an article on him
His LB coach, Kevin Steele, coahed for the Panthers in the NFL and has seen ALOT of LBs during his time. Here is a question posed to him about Ernie Sims size
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SofaKings.
Footballguy
This is the best news I've heard all day. Thank you.
RestoreTheROAR
Footballguy
Yes, those "concussions" were quite some time ago too.
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