Kenny Powers
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Why is Cole 4th in the rotation? Just so he starts against STL?
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***Official Pittsburgh Pirates 2014 Thread*** (4 Viewers)
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fred_1_15301
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fred_1_15301
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monessen
Footballguy
After 3 games, looks just like last year. The pitching has been dominant. Period. And PNC remains a tough place for scoring, though no MLB offense looks to be tearing things up from the get-go. Beyond that, Hurdle has good timing, all things considered, on how/when to use the bullpen.
Don't know how much thought has been given to Russell Martin at DH against AL teams' left-handers if Tony Sanchez plays well. If the Bucs stand pat with the roster until then, while starting Gaby and Tabata against lefties, both Tony S and Martin may be the best right-handed hitters for those match-ups. And it would keep Martin in the game if needed for later behind the plate.
Boras may bark at this notion since agents have inordinate clout these days on what/when/where their clients' can perform. But we've talked often on the need for a complement to Gaby. Maybe Pedro Alvarez is that player instead of their present option. Locating a good acquisition to play third could be a bit easier than the quest for an MLB left-handed hitting first-baseman. If Pedro is not the long-term answer at third (or even on the team in a few years), a position switch sooner instead of later may be wise.
There is a lot of good buzz on the Pirates. This squad has a more determined "don't quit" disposition which appeared to surface more clearly last June. Didn't seem to be true under John Russell a few years ago.
Hope Tailon is not hurt significantly, since it would deflate the balloon.
The series with St. Louis ought to be engaging. Imagine, heightened interest in a Pirates' series in April.
Don't know how much thought has been given to Russell Martin at DH against AL teams' left-handers if Tony Sanchez plays well. If the Bucs stand pat with the roster until then, while starting Gaby and Tabata against lefties, both Tony S and Martin may be the best right-handed hitters for those match-ups. And it would keep Martin in the game if needed for later behind the plate.
Boras may bark at this notion since agents have inordinate clout these days on what/when/where their clients' can perform. But we've talked often on the need for a complement to Gaby. Maybe Pedro Alvarez is that player instead of their present option. Locating a good acquisition to play third could be a bit easier than the quest for an MLB left-handed hitting first-baseman. If Pedro is not the long-term answer at third (or even on the team in a few years), a position switch sooner instead of later may be wise.
There is a lot of good buzz on the Pirates. This squad has a more determined "don't quit" disposition which appeared to surface more clearly last June. Didn't seem to be true under John Russell a few years ago.
Hope Tailon is not hurt significantly, since it would deflate the balloon.
The series with St. Louis ought to be engaging. Imagine, heightened interest in a Pirates' series in April.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yes, I dont see why this is a given at this point with how good the pen is/is expected to be. It looked like he got figured out late last season and hasnt comeback with an answer.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I dont see why not per the bolded. Honestly, I dont understand why Tabata isnt the (mostly) everyday RF until Polanco gets called up. Snider's chances/deserving of his apparent role has set its sail IMO.monessen said:
GL on moving Pedro to 1B Id guess.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Im pretty pumped for the STL series this weekend...feels like its September again.
Drunken Cowboy
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Liriano pitched very well against the cards last year at PNC. Nice to see the bats going yesterday.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Ok well the Bucs still have a solid club right now and have some pretty good depth in the minors. It sucks that Taillon won't contribute until 2016 at the earliest but hopefully he will still have a strong career ahead of him. There have been success stories of guys coming off TJ
monessen
Footballguy
Balco
Footballguy
It definitely stinks for the near term, as he was considered a blue chip prospect. But I have also read that the Pirates have another wave of highly regarded pitchers making their way up from the low minors (Glasnow, Kingham, and Heredia).
With Polanco on the horizon, the offense should be solid, but they need to find another pitcher next to Cole to bring them into the future.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I've heard some experts say that Kingham may end up better than Taillon in the long run (this was before the TJ news). Glasgow and Heredia are also coveted prospects and they have a few others who can add solid depth. This is why I'm not devastated by the Taillon news. As you mentioned, Polanco will be up soon and that will hopefully immediately fix their hole in RF. Unlike past years, this team can absorb a huge hit like they took today.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
I'm excited too. Doesn't seem like Snider is quite as excited about the Polanco Show as we are though.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Maybe this games turns our way later with HRs again, but Liriano was crushing it downstairs with sliders and changes and then decides to throw high fastballs and were down 3-0 quick.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Well, looks like the Brewers are back to owning us in Milwaukee.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Polanco time. Let's do this.
The Hank
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Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Again, very glad.Full Terms of the deal.Burnett to the Phillies---1 year, $16 million----just a little higher than the Bucs' offer of 1 year at 8.5 million
Burnett and Marlon Byrd will be missed. Both may have still have enough in the tank to help Philadelphia get to the playoffs.
With the money saved, the team may be able to pursue a Kendrys Morales. With 64 runs scored and 80 RBI over a full season last year and not breaking his leg jumping on home plate in 2014, Morales could be had. The Mariners now have Hart, Morrison, Morales, and Smoak. And one of the latter two will be expendable. So the Pirates can look to acquire the player Seattle doesn't want or need, unless the Orioles jump in there first.
Very glad the Pirates didn't do something that stupid.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I think he could a trade candidate later this year if he can keep it up or possibly get a look at 1B.Travis Snider is not exactly disappointing thus far.
Copeman
Footballguy
Not sure what he makes per year, but if he continues hitting the way he has, I would think it would be tough/stupid to trade him, especially since he would finally be showing the Pirates what they had hoped he would show them. They've been pretty patient with the guy. I'd hate for this to be Brandon Moss all over again.I think he could a trade candidate later this year if he can keep it up or possibly get a look at 1B.Travis Snider is not exactly disappointing thus far.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
This. Brandon Moss, or god forbid Jose Bautista.Not sure what he makes per year, but if he continues hitting the way he has, I would think it would be tough/stupid to trade him, especially since he would finally be showing the Pirates what they had hoped he would show them. They've been pretty patient with the guy. I'd hate for this to be Brandon Moss all over again.I think he could a trade candidate later this year if he can keep it up or possibly get a look at 1B.Travis Snider is not exactly disappointing thus far.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
That game last night was fun as #### to watch, hopefully they can can get a W out of it today. Any word on who were expected to roll out onto the mound in the 7th?
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
They aren't going to block Polanco for him though.Kenny Powers said:This. Brandon Moss, or god forbid Jose Bautista.Copeman said:Not sure what he makes per year, but if he continues hitting the way he has, I would think it would be tough/stupid to trade him, especially since he would finally be showing the Pirates what they had hoped he would show them. They've been pretty patient with the guy. I'd hate for this to be Brandon Moss all over again.Drunken Cowboy said:I think he could a trade candidate later this year if he can keep it up or possibly get a look at 1B.Copeman said:Travis Snider is not exactly disappointing thus far.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Just hit the ball in the air in cincy, it'll go out. Todd Frazier homer was a joke tonight.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I travel to Indy a lot now. Maybe I can see Polanco before the call up. Anybody been to Victory stadium? Any signature food?
Eephus
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monessen
Footballguy
And are you enjoying how the Pirates have not spent what they saved on Burnett to improve the club?Again, very glad.Full Terms of the deal.Burnett to the Phillies---1 year, $16 million----just a little higher than the Bucs' offer of 1 year at 8.5 million
Burnett and Marlon Byrd will be missed. Both may have still have enough in the tank to help Philadelphia get to the playoffs.
With the money saved, the team may be able to pursue a Kendrys Morales. With 64 runs scored and 80 RBI over a full season last year and not breaking his leg jumping on home plate in 2014, Morales could be had. The Mariners now have Hart, Morrison, Morales, and Smoak. And one of the latter two will be expendable. So the Pirates can look to acquire the player Seattle doesn't want or need, unless the Orioles jump in there first.
Very glad the Pirates didn't do something that stupid.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
This is who they gave the money toAnd are you enjoying how the Pirates have not spent what they saved on Burnett to improve the club?Again, very glad.Full Terms of the deal.Burnett to the Phillies---1 year, $16 million----just a little higher than the Bucs' offer of 1 year at 8.5 million
Burnett and Marlon Byrd will be missed. Both may have still have enough in the tank to help Philadelphia get to the playoffs.
With the money saved, the team may be able to pursue a Kendrys Morales. With 64 runs scored and 80 RBI over a full season last year and not breaking his leg jumping on home plate in 2014, Morales could be had. The Mariners now have Hart, Morrison, Morales, and Smoak. And one of the latter two will be expendable. So the Pirates can look to acquire the player Seattle doesn't want or need, unless the Orioles jump in there first.
Very glad the Pirates didn't do something that stupid.
monessen
Footballguy
Oh yes. I mentioned Volquez a couple of months ago. Could be this year's Liriano if this year's Liriano becomes last year's Volquez.
Wasn't saying they should have signed Burnett or Byrd, just that they could focus on how to use the money saved. Perhaps they are still trying to determine the best way. Or it has been spent. Been a good year for skiing in West Virginia. Winter is hanging on. Am sure there are resorts in WV that have been upgraded if you catch my (snow) drift.
