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It's still weird to see how helpless United is against top teams. I know they're in 6th or whatever, but they looked utterly out of ideas and couldn't hold the ball to save their lives at City.
I saw this online.....what a legacy ETH is building...
Some of the records broken by Erik ten Hag:
- Manchester United hadn't lost 13 games by Christmas since 1930, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't gone 4 games in a row without scoring since 1992, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't finished bottom of their CL group since 2006, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost back to back games to West Ham since 2007, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No Manchester United manager has conceded 20 goals to Liverpool/City in their first 7 games against them since Alfred Albut in the 1800s, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never finished with as few as 5 points in the CL group stages in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag
- No English club had ever conceded 15 goals in the CL group stages in the competition's history until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 4 of 6 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never failed to keep a clean sheet in 5 of 6 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 12 of the opening 23 games of the season, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Bournemouth had never won at Old Trafford, Until Erik Ten Hag.
- Bournemouth had never scored 3 goals at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Bournemouth had never kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 7 of the opening 16 PL games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost back to back league games against Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 3 games in a row to Newcastle United since 1922, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Newcastle hadn't kept 3 clean sheets in a row against Manchester United since 1897, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost 6 of the opening 14 games of a PL season, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No English team in CL history had ever conceded 14 goals in the first 5 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never conceded 3+ goals in 4 different CL games in a season, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost a CL game they were leading by 2 goals, until Erik Ten Hag, twice since.
- Manchester United hadn't lost a game they were leading by 2+ goals since 2014, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never dropped this many points from a winning position in CL history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never conceded 4+ in two CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 9 of the opening 17 games since 1974, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No team had ever given away 4 penalties in their first 4 CL group games in the competition's history, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No player as young as Roony Bardghji had scored against Manchester United in the CL, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 8 of the opening 15 games in a season since 1962, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of their first 10 games at Old Trafford since 1931, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Newcastle hadn't won at Old Trafford since 2013, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Newcastle hadn't won a cup game against Manchester United since 1994, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost twice in a row to Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag.
- No post war Manchester United manager had conceded 20 goals to City and Liverpool in their first 6 games against them, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of the opening 10 league games in 36 years, until Erik Ten Hag.-
- Galatasaray hadn't won a game on English soil in 117 years of existence, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never lost the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
- Manchester United had never conceded 7 goals in the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.
Crap organizations change managers every couple years and this cycle never breaks. He led them to a trophy and a 3rd place finish in his first year. His second year has been marred with injuries. Yes he has a lot to answer for some of the players brought in and his in game management. Questions can be asked why the team is so inconsistent and lacking in several areas.
But he also has his hands tied by the following:
- a lack of depth and players starting who should be on the bench,
- a lot of dead weight players that should not have remained at the club being kept and even extended instead of sold
-being part way through a massive overhaul and having to rely players brought in by 4 different managers with 4 different systems
-A crap ownership group with no direction or urgency or structure.
-Underperforming players who seem to have outlasted several managers.
I can understand why fans want him out. I can also understand why he should get more time. IF (BIG IF) Ratcliff and Ineos are putting in a proper structure, and providing the right support from above, I would like to see him get more time.
We could go round and round on this, but my position is simple. Look at the list Andy posted - the guy just hasn't been good enough and there's no indication that he will be. It would be different if he was getting decent results. They aren't AND look like a mid-table club at best almost every match. He has one of the most expensive sides in the world and can't get any kind of performance out of them - not to mention all the issues he's had with individual players.
I understand that and have no issue with that stance.
I realize no one will be doing what SAF and Wenger did with the longevity. But this is ridiculous.
Moyes 11 months
Giggs 1 month
LvG 24 months
Jose 31 months
Ole 35 months
Carrick 1 month
Rangnick 6 months
ETH 20 months
My point is this circle of life.... At some point it can't be the manager that goes and the responsibility has to fall on the players, the recruiting team, the CEO.....
How many of these players have been there through several managers and nothing has really changed?
NYCFC’s long-running quest to build a stadium in the five boroughs has taken another step forward, with a distinctive design element unveiled.
On Wednesday, the New York City Planning Commission voted in favor of the stadium in a binding and unanimous vote. The plan will now head to the New York City Council, which will hold a public hearing and then a vote. If that passes and the mayor approves, there’s an appeal process. NYCFC’s plan is expected to pass all these hurdles unscathed. Once it does, the club will “be ready with shovels” to get construction underway
NYCFC’s long-running quest to build a stadium in the five boroughs has taken another step forward, with a distinctive design element unveiled.
On Wednesday, the New York City Planning Commission voted in favor of the stadium in a binding and unanimous vote. The plan will now head to the New York City Council, which will hold a public hearing and then a vote. If that passes and the mayor approves, there’s an appeal process. NYCFC’s plan is expected to pass all these hurdles unscathed. Once it does, the club will “be ready with shovels” to get construction underway
NYCFC’s long-running quest to build a stadium in the five boroughs has taken another step forward, with a distinctive design element unveiled.
On Wednesday, the New York City Planning Commission voted in favor of the stadium in a binding and unanimous vote. The plan will now head to the New York City Council, which will hold a public hearing and then a vote. If that passes and the mayor approves, there’s an appeal process. NYCFC’s plan is expected to pass all these hurdles unscathed. Once it does, the club will “be ready with shovels” to get construction underway
Yeah that sounds interesting as a design piece. Sound very Vegas flashy..
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“You go through the whole process and you think how are we going to differentiate ourselves?” Sims said. “Not just amongst soccer-specific stadiums in North America, but also differentiate ourselves against the New York area’s other sports venues. … I think our grand entrance through the cube is going to be very different from any other kind of sense of arrival, of welcoming to a sports event that any of our fans have ever seen.”
The entrance will feature 11,000 square feet of LED lighting in the cube, capable of projecting video, photographs and graphic elements
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Watching the video makes the ref look worse. Corner comes in and is sorta cleared, ref puts whistle in his mouth. RM player turns and crosses and the ref blows his whistle. No goal.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
I hope Jude's red is overturned. Reportedly he was shown red for yelling "That's a f&*K&^g goal!"
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Watching the video makes the ref look worse. Corner comes in and is sorta cleared, ref puts whistle in his mouth. RM player turns and crosses and the ref blows his whistle. No goal.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
I hope Jude's red is overturned. Reportedly he was shown red for yelling "That's a f&*K&^g goal!"
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Watching the video makes the ref look worse. Corner comes in and is sorta cleared, ref puts whistle in his mouth. RM player turns and crosses and the ref blows his whistle. No goal.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
I hope Jude's red is overturned. Reportedly he was shown red for yelling "That's a f&*K&^g goal!"
Devil's advocate - there's no contact, but Bellingham physically moves on the ref hard at 2:52 of the video. It doesn't matter that the game is over - that's a red card.
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Watching the video makes the ref look worse. Corner comes in and is sorta cleared, ref puts whistle in his mouth. RM player turns and crosses and the ref blows his whistle. No goal.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
I hope Jude's red is overturned. Reportedly he was shown red for yelling "That's a f&*K&^g goal!"
Devil's advocate - there's no contact, but Bellingham physically moves on the ref hard at 2:52 of the video. It doesn't matter that the game is over - that's a red card.
"Moves on the ref hard"? So that's a direct red? After a game?
Yellow card? Sure. But, to me, unless he touches the ref or directs insults at the referee himself (not "that's a ****ing goal"), running up to him to complain in a moment like that shouldn't warrant a red card. Especially when so many others are in his face, screaming at him, and one of them (Joselu, I believe) gets a yellow.
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Watching the video makes the ref look worse. Corner comes in and is sorta cleared, ref puts whistle in his mouth. RM player turns and crosses and the ref blows his whistle. No goal.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
I hope Jude's red is overturned. Reportedly he was shown red for yelling "That's a f&*K&^g goal!"
Devil's advocate - there's no contact, but Bellingham physically moves on the ref hard at 2:52 of the video. It doesn't matter that the game is over - that's a red card.
"Moves on the ref hard"? So that's a direct red? After a game?
Yellow card? Sure. But, to me, unless he touches the ref or directs insults at the referee himself (not "that's a ****ing goal"), running up to him to complain in a moment like that shouldn't warrant a red card. Especially when so many others are in his face, screaming at him, and one of them (Joselu, I believe) gets a yellow.
He did run up on the ref hard when others were standing there already discussing the play. The idea of "that's a ****ing goal" is being what Jude said is being put out there by Real fans. He likely said much more than that, especially since the ref immediately reacts to it.
It was a terrible time to blow the whistle, but there's zero that can be done after he's blown it. The game is over. RM can't be awarded a goal because that would be even MORE controversial since players could claim they stopped playing due to the whistle. Running up on the ref SHOULD be a red card IMO. I don't care how angry you are, all that is is an attempt to intimidate him into doing what you want and it should be punished accordingly.
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Watching the video makes the ref look worse. Corner comes in and is sorta cleared, ref puts whistle in his mouth. RM player turns and crosses and the ref blows his whistle. No goal.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
I hope Jude's red is overturned. Reportedly he was shown red for yelling "That's a f&*K&^g goal!"
I don't know the timing here - but its certainly possible that the corner was intended to be the final play - he allowed the corner and when it moved to a new phase - carrying the ball out wide - he blew the whistle.
With nothing else, can't say the official was wrong here.
I have not seen anything about next years Gold Cup yet.
My guess would be no since next summer South American World Cup Qualifying would be in full gear and there should be a bunch of those games played during the Gold Cup time period.
Note that this summer, the US will be hosing the Super Copa America, in which every team from South America and the best teams from Concacaf will participate. Here are the groups
Red completely botched both, IMO. That phase of play hadn't ended. And if you can't count the goal after the whistle, then why are you still issuing red cards?
Watching the video makes the ref look worse. Corner comes in and is sorta cleared, ref puts whistle in his mouth. RM player turns and crosses and the ref blows his whistle. No goal.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
I hope Jude's red is overturned. Reportedly he was shown red for yelling "That's a f&*K&^g goal!"
Devil's advocate - there's no contact, but Bellingham physically moves on the ref hard at 2:52 of the video. It doesn't matter that the game is over - that's a red card.
"Moves on the ref hard"? So that's a direct red? After a game?
Yellow card? Sure. But, to me, unless he touches the ref or directs insults at the referee himself (not "that's a ****ing goal"), running up to him to complain in a moment like that shouldn't warrant a red card. Especially when so many others are in his face, screaming at him, and one of them (Joselu, I believe) gets a yellow.
It looks to me like he feinted a head butt, just short of making contact and well beyond typical ref-bracketing. Agree it could be a yellow but he can’t complain he got a red for that.
It was a terrible time to blow the whistle, but there's zero that can be done after he's blown it. The game is over. RM can't be awarded a goal because that would be even MORE controversial since players could claim they stopped playing due to the whistle. Running up on the ref SHOULD be a red card IMO. I don't care how angry you are, all that is is an attempt to intimidate him into doing what you want and it should be punished accordingly.
I don't know the timing here - but its certainly possible that the corner was intended to be the final play - he allowed the corner and when it moved to a new phase - carrying the ball out wide - he blew the whistle.
With nothing else, can't say the official was wrong here.
From the videos I have seen the whistle blew as the cross was being made. Was a nice dual screen showing him putting the whistle in his mouth at the clearance, then delayed calling time. Ref waited for the player to turn and play the ball before whistling. As I said, had he blown at the clearance there would be minimal issue.
Per the laws, the ref did nothing wrong there. Per the spirit and the "don't call for time during a promising attack" he messed up big time.
It doesn't rain often, but when it does, the people of San Diego act like its the end of the world. And SnapDragon has no cover or way to stay out of the rain...
It doesn't rain often, but when it does, the people of San Diego act like its the end of the world. And SnapDragon has no cover or way to stay out of the rain...
It doesn't rain often, but when it does, the people of San Diego act like its the end of the world. And SnapDragon has no cover or way to stay out of the rain...
It doesn't rain often, but when it does, the people of San Diego act like its the end of the world. And SnapDragon has no cover or way to stay out of the rain...
It doesn't rain often, but when it does, the people of San Diego act like its the end of the world. And SnapDragon has no cover or way to stay out of the rain...
It doesn't rain often, but when it does, the people of San Diego act like its the end of the world. And SnapDragon has no cover or way to stay out of the rain...
It doesn't rain often, but when it does, the people of San Diego act like its the end of the world. And SnapDragon has no cover or way to stay out of the rain...
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
Apparently he did in the first half as well, to Valencia's annoyance. But the clock is at 99 minutes with +7 on the board. So at some point you just have to call it.
Had he blown the whistle at the initial half clearance there would be minimal complaining. But to call it as the ball is crossed is amazingly bad. You don't end the game on a promising attack like that.
Apparently he did in the first half as well, to Valencia's annoyance. But the clock is at 99 minutes with +7 on the board. So at some point you just have to call it.
I also understand there was some added delays and a PK review in the Fergie time so the added amount isn't the issue. Yes at some point you have to call it but that moment wasn't the best option.
Ah, I also read an article relating to Luton on that site today. Was headlined "Luton Town's Tom Lockyer dad after coronary arrest", which is the level of proof reading you would expect from our national broadcaster. I guess sticking "a" in after Lockyer, or using the term father instead, is just too hard for this "national treasure"
Seems there is a title race: Arsenal (64), Liverpool (64), City (63)
A top 4 race: Aston Villa (55), Tottenham (53 plus a game in hand)
A Europa place race: United (47), West Ham (43), Brighton (42), Wolves (41), Newcastle (40)
And probably a relegation battle for the 3rd spot (Burnley and Sheffield seem all but relegated, 10 points out of 17th)
I saw that Celta Vigo fired Rafa Benetiz and Maurizio Sarri resigned from Lazio today. Looking at the last 10 Chelsea managers, there's an interesting circumstance:
Graham Potter
Thomas Tuchel
Frank Lampard
Maurizio Sarri
Antonio Conte
José Mourinho
Rafa Benítez
Roberto Di Matteo
André Villas-Boas
Carlo Ancelotti
With Tuchel's departure from Bayern this summer confirmed, it seems Carlo is the only one of the last ten who is currently employed. None of these guys are working. This excludes the short term caretakers like Bruno Salter and Guus Hiddink.
Champions League quarterfinal draw:
1 - Arsenal v Bayern München
2 - Atletico Madrid v Borussia Dortmund
3 - Real Madrid v Manchester City
4 - PSG v Barcelona
Team listed first gets first match at home
Semi will be
2 v 4
1 v 3
Europa League quarterfinal draw:
1 - AC Milan v AS Roma
2 - Liverpool v Atalanta
3 - Bayer Leverkusen v West Ham
4 - Benfica v Marseille
Semi will be
4 v 2
1 v 3
Europa Conference League draw hasn't happened yet.
Champions League quarterfinal draw:
1 - Arsenal v Bayern München
2 - Atletico Madrid v Borussia Dortmund
3 - Real Madrid v Manchester City
4 - PSG v Barcelona
Team listed first gets first match at home
Semi will be
2 v 4
1 v 3
Europa League quarterfinal draw:
1 - AC Milan v AS Roma
2 - Liverpool v Atalanta
3 - Bayer Leverkusen v West Ham
4 - Benfica v Marseille
Semi will be
4 v 2
1 v 3
Europa Conference League draw hasn't happened yet.
Bayern got an away supporter ban for the game at Emirates due to a pyrotechnics violation at Lazio last round. Gunners get to sell the normal away allocation to their own supporters.
Champions League quarterfinal draw:
1 - Arsenal v Bayern München
2 - Atletico Madrid v Borussia Dortmund
3 - Real Madrid v Manchester City
4 - PSG v Barcelona
Team listed first gets first match at home
Semi will be
2 v 4
1 v 3
Europa League quarterfinal draw:
1 - AC Milan v AS Roma
2 - Liverpool v Atalanta
3 - Bayer Leverkusen v West Ham
4 - Benfica v Marseille
Semi will be
4 v 2
1 v 3
Europa Conference League draw hasn't happened yet.
Bayern got an away supporter ban for the game at Emirates due to a pyrotechnics violation at Lazio last round. Gunners get to sell the normal away allocation to their own supporters.
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Champions League schedule.
First leg — April 9 and 10. 
Second leg — April 16 and 17.
June 1, Wembley.
