Current odds to lift the CL trophy:
City +170
Arsenal +500
Real +600
Bayern +650
PSG +750
Barcelona +1000
Atleti +1100
BvB +2300
Yes Sir! Already got my tickets for it.@B Maverick this in your area?
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Steven Goff
@SoccerInsider
Manchester United announces a third match on US tour: July 31 vs Real Betis at Snapdragon Stadium in San Diego.
A man can dreamCurrent odds to lift the CL trophy:
City +170
Arsenal +500
Real +600
Bayern +650
PSG +750
Barcelona +1000
Atleti +1100
BvB +2300
Interesting that the top 4 favorites are all on one side of the bracket meaning one of the four underdogs will play in the final. I'm surprised the odds break down like this after the draw. It wouldn't be crazy for Atletico to beat Dortmund, beat the PSG/Barca winner in a single game knockout and play in the final at +1100.
Grizzy still has a lot of game left. He has been the best player on the field for plenty of Atleti games this year. He's not dead yet!You can now officially set the clock to see how long it takes MLS brass to think up yet another roster rule to get him to Miami
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Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
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Xavi: “We decided to let Antoine Griezmann leave just because of the financial situation, the club had to let him go”.“Griezmann is a player that I like a lot, but he left for that reason”.
Bottom third. But apples to oranges just due to $$ structure.Looks like Lalas is starting the MLS vs EPL debate again (was asked where he thinks the best MLS team finishes in the EPL table).
He says the best MLS team would finish Mid-Table in the EPL.
I think they would be fighting relegation at best, but admit I am a Euro Snob and most of MLS is hard to watch. What do you guys think?
Mid table right now is a team like Chelsea or Newcastle. MLS teams would get worked.Looks like Lalas is starting the MLS vs EPL debate again (was asked where he thinks the best MLS team finishes in the EPL table).
He says the best MLS team would finish Mid-Table in the EPL.
I think they would be fighting relegation at best, but admit I am a Euro Snob and most of MLS is hard to watch. What do you guys think?
Oh for sure its not a direct comparison.Bottom third. But apples to oranges just due to $$ structure.Looks like Lalas is starting the MLS vs EPL debate again (was asked where he thinks the best MLS team finishes in the EPL table).
He says the best MLS team would finish Mid-Table in the EPL.
I think they would be fighting relegation at best, but admit I am a Euro Snob and most of MLS is hard to watch. What do you guys think?
Mls is fun as hell to watch... I mean, sure- it's no Luton vs Brentford but still fun.
When's the last time you watched?Oh for sure its not a direct comparison.Bottom third. But apples to oranges just due to $$ structure.Looks like Lalas is starting the MLS vs EPL debate again (was asked where he thinks the best MLS team finishes in the EPL table).
He says the best MLS team would finish Mid-Table in the EPL.
I think they would be fighting relegation at best, but admit I am a Euro Snob and most of MLS is hard to watch. What do you guys think?
Mls is fun as hell to watch... I mean, sure- it's no Luton vs Brentford but still fun.
Luton v Brentford ends up being wide open and fun for neutrals.
I try and watch MLS, but mostly I see players running 100 miles an hour, kicking everyone and everything, missing the better passes, etc. Not always, and there have been some games I have enjoyed. Some teams are becoming watchable.
Oh I watch a few every season. Haven't watched any this season yet though.When's the last time you watched?Oh for sure its not a direct comparison.Bottom third. But apples to oranges just due to $$ structure.Looks like Lalas is starting the MLS vs EPL debate again (was asked where he thinks the best MLS team finishes in the EPL table).
He says the best MLS team would finish Mid-Table in the EPL.
I think they would be fighting relegation at best, but admit I am a Euro Snob and most of MLS is hard to watch. What do you guys think?
Mls is fun as hell to watch... I mean, sure- it's no Luton vs Brentford but still fun.
Luton v Brentford ends up being wide open and fun for neutrals.
I try and watch MLS, but mostly I see players running 100 miles an hour, kicking everyone and everything, missing the better passes, etc. Not always, and there have been some games I have enjoyed. Some teams are becoming watchable.
I tried watching several years ago and didn't think it was worth the time for the quality I was seeing out there.
With STL joining last year and watching much more, there may be a bias, but the games are much more enjoyable to watch and the quality is better than I remember.
You just described me watching Man United games the last couple years. Or chelsea, Juve or Milan.Oh for sure its not a direct comparison.Bottom third. But apples to oranges just due to $$ structure.Looks like Lalas is starting the MLS vs EPL debate again (was asked where he thinks the best MLS team finishes in the EPL table).
He says the best MLS team would finish Mid-Table in the EPL.
I think they would be fighting relegation at best, but admit I am a Euro Snob and most of MLS is hard to watch. What do you guys think?
Mls is fun as hell to watch... I mean, sure- it's no Luton vs Brentford but still fun.
Luton v Brentford ends up being wide open and fun for neutrals.
I try and watch MLS, but mostly I see players running 100 miles an hour, kicking everyone and everything, missing the better passes, etc. Not always, and there have been some games I have enjoyed. Some teams are becoming watchable.
Oh for sure United games have been hard to watch at times too.You just described me watching Man United games the last couple years. Or chelsea, Juve or Milan.Oh for sure its not a direct comparison.Bottom third. But apples to oranges just due to $$ structure.Looks like Lalas is starting the MLS vs EPL debate again (was asked where he thinks the best MLS team finishes in the EPL table).
He says the best MLS team would finish Mid-Table in the EPL.
I think they would be fighting relegation at best, but admit I am a Euro Snob and most of MLS is hard to watch. What do you guys think?
Mls is fun as hell to watch... I mean, sure- it's no Luton vs Brentford but still fun.
Luton v Brentford ends up being wide open and fun for neutrals.
I try and watch MLS, but mostly I see players running 100 miles an hour, kicking everyone and everything, missing the better passes, etc. Not always, and there have been some games I have enjoyed. Some teams are becoming watchable.
I agree with every single line.The best MLS team would be 100% relegation fodder. Not even close to staying up.
Just to grab the first example of an unbiased attempt to rank the clubs... Luton is #277, Sheffield United is #506. Top of the Championship... Leicester #132, Leeds #296.
Philly, Columbus and LA are all ~400ish.
Last time I went deep down this rabbit hole I felt pretty good that MLS teams would be scattered across most of the Championship standings, outside the top 2-3 teams, with a few in the top half of League One. Which is incredible IMO -- the Championship is no joke. I think MLS is probably a top ~10-12 league in the world already.
I agree with you both, esp about Lalas.I agree with every single line.The best MLS team would be 100% relegation fodder. Not even close to staying up.
Just to grab the first example of an unbiased attempt to rank the clubs... Luton is #277, Sheffield United is #506. Top of the Championship... Leicester #132, Leeds #296.
Philly, Columbus and LA are all ~400ish.
Last time I went deep down this rabbit hole I felt pretty good that MLS teams would be scattered across most of the Championship standings, outside the top 2-3 teams, with a few in the top half of League One. Which is incredible IMO -- the Championship is no joke. I think MLS is probably a top ~10-12 league in the world already.
I never understand why anyone listens to Lalas. He is only click baiting.
MLS being in the top 10-15 area is even more amazing because they are a salary capped league being compared to free spending leagues.
I only saw the 2nd half of ET, so grains 8f salt and all... but both teams were so sloppy that it's hard to imagine this as the greatest anything, despite a fantastic ending (resulting from goofily sloppy play)Cannot lie, hearing people say that United v Liverpool was one of the greatest games in the history of the FA Cup is killing me. Apparently I have missed out.
Even when Liverpool was winning I was pissed at how they were playing -- so careless with the ball and so open. It felt like 2016. And when they conceded the 3rd and the 4th on schoolboys-know-better mistakes it never occurred to me for a second I was watching a classic.
Wide open games with a lot of scoring, comebacks, extra time and a winner at the death always get called "the greatest" by pundits and casual fans. Add in that it was the two biggest clubs in England and the hyperbole is running wild.I only saw the 2nd half of ET, so grains 8f salt and all... but both teams were so sloppy that it's hard to imagine this as the greatest anything, despite a fantastic ending (resulting from goofily sloppy play)Cannot lie, hearing people say that United v Liverpool was one of the greatest games in the history of the FA Cup is killing me. Apparently I have missed out.
Even when Liverpool was winning I was pissed at how they were playing -- so careless with the ball and so open. It felt like 2016. And when they conceded the 3rd and the 4th on schoolboys-know-better mistakes it never occurred to me for a second I was watching a classic.
BMav is right. People just like goals. That was a sloppy game and it was nowhere near the greatest game of all time. The EFL Cup title game against Chelsea was much better play but only ended up 1-0 in extra time.I admit I have become a quality football snob, so it's nice to hear that I'm not completely crazy on this one. Thanks to you both.
Of all the strange rules MLS has had over the years, the "Discovery" rule has to be the worst named ever.Tom Bogert
@tombogert
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Sources: LAFC in advanced talks with France all-time leading scorer Olivier Giroud about a summer move when his AC Milan deal endsNothing agreed or imminent, but talks serious. LAFC has his discovery rights. Giroud considering options
But oldI don't want to give oxygen to Lalas, but I do wonder how Miami would fare in the European leagues. A lot of players with European experience and pedigree.
Ironically, playing in MLS can be much harder on older players than playing in Europe, due to the insane amount of travel and the field turf stadiums.But oldI don't want to give oxygen to Lalas, but I do wonder how Miami would fare in the European leagues. A lot of players with European experience and pedigree.
They would do better in La Liga or Ligue 1 where leagues tend to be a little less physical - maybe mid-table there.I don't want to give oxygen to Lalas, but I do wonder how Miami would fare in the European leagues. A lot of players with European experience and pedigree.
Outside of Messi, none of them were wanted in Europe any longer.I don't want to give oxygen to Lalas, but I do wonder how Miami would fare in the European leagues. A lot of players with European experience and pedigree.
This is what drives me nuts about the post game ratings pundits give the players too. You score a goal and you are 7s and 8s despite everything bad you did in the game (poor passes, giveaways, wrong position defensively). As much as goals change games and you can't win without them, simply scoring the goal doesn't make you man of the match or 8 out of 10 rating.BMav is right. People just like goals. That was a sloppy game and it was nowhere near the greatest game of all time. The EFL Cup title game against Chelsea was much better play but only ended up 1-0 in extra time.I admit I have become a quality football snob, so it's nice to hear that I'm not completely crazy on this one. Thanks to you both.
I thought of you during the match when I realized I thought he was having a game. He was a stout workhorse, and popped up for a few huge chances.Scott Mctominay shade
I don't agree with this.Outside of Messi, none of them were wanted in Europe any longer.I don't want to give oxygen to Lalas, but I do wonder how Miami would fare in the European leagues. A lot of players with European experience and pedigree.
Heck Suarez's goal over the weekend looked like a Sunday league goal and he looked off the pace despite scoring it.
He does. He works hard going forward and does some good things at times, like the goal, the occasional assist, perhaps a defensive header.I thought of you during the match when I realized I thought he was having a game. He was a stout workhorse, and popped up for a few huge chances.Scott Mctominay shade
Maguire hearing this rumor:Damn you international break. With no games, I now have to hear all the rumors about Southgate possibly replacing ETH as United manager this summer.
No matter what you think of ETH, I guarantee you that Southgate would be a downgrade.
Damn you international break. With no games, I now have to hear all the rumors about Southgate possibly replacing ETH as United manager this summer.
No matter what you think of ETH, I guarantee you that Southgate would be a downgrade.
He probably started it!Maguire hearing this rumor:Damn you international break. With no games, I now have to hear all the rumors about Southgate possibly replacing ETH as United manager this summer.
No matter what you think of ETH, I guarantee you that Southgate would be a downgrade.
I think they have had plenty of mixed players (pardon if that is not the correct term to use any more).Watching PAN v MEX, and I noticed Mexs #9 Quinones is black. Have they ever fielded a black player? Never occured to me before.
Feels like we're treading on thin ice here, ol pal. even though I know neither of us is placing any judgement on it- just probably getting the latest word choice wrong.I think they have had plenty of mixed players (pardon if that is not the correct term to use any more).Watching PAN v MEX, and I noticed Mexs #9 Quinones is black. Have they ever fielded a black player? Never occured to me before.
I think there have been a bunch like Gio Dos Santos with some mixed Brazilian blood in him.
I think Quinones is Colombian if I am not mistaken.
You attend all these games??Chesterfield won promotion back to the Football League last weekend, unbelievably early given there's only the one automatic spot and it's still Match
Busy couple of weeks for me:
Tonight - Stockport Georgians v Cammell Laird (North West Counties)
29/3 - Bootle v Trafford (Northern Premier League)
30/3 - Sheffield United v Fulham (Premier League)
1/4 - Prescot Cables v Runcorn Linnets (Northern Premier League)
4/4 - Liverpool v Sheffield United (Premier League)
6/4 - Runcorn Linnets v Mossley (Northern Premier League)
7/4 - Sheffield United v Chelsea (Premier League)
13/4 - Brentford v Sheffield United (Premier League)
You attend all these games??Chesterfield won promotion back to the Football League last weekend, unbelievably early given there's only the one automatic spot and it's still Match
Busy couple of weeks for me:
Tonight - Stockport Georgians v Cammell Laird (North West Counties)
29/3 - Bootle v Trafford (Northern Premier League)
30/3 - Sheffield United v Fulham (Premier League)
1/4 - Prescot Cables v Runcorn Linnets (Northern Premier League)
4/4 - Liverpool v Sheffield United (Premier League)
6/4 - Runcorn Linnets v Mossley (Northern Premier League)
7/4 - Sheffield United v Chelsea (Premier League)
13/4 - Brentford v Sheffield United (Premier League)
Is there a vid blog or something? Instagram to follow?
Personally. I would like to know what the vibe and the scran is like @ Runcorn Linnets v Mossley