Agreed, there should be one thread for post draft Roookie Drafts so we dont have to wade through the outdated drafts in the other thread.Those were all pre-draft or mocks. I thought it would be more helpful to have a current one than one with older information.
Agreed,Jerome Simpson at 1.07? Figured he would slide well into the 3rd round in any league where he is a free agent. Relying on AJ Green to bust doesn't seem like a good enough risk/reward to go with him that high.
Please don't comment on players who are still on the board.Agreed, why not if you are looking wrJerome Simpson at 1.07? Figured he would slide well into the 3rd round in any league where he is a free agent. Relying on AJ Green to bust doesn't seem like a good enough risk/reward to go with him that high.
Jerome Simpson went ahead of Little which is worse.Helu has a good opportunity in Washington to win the job.Roy helu at 8?OUCH
Helu may not have the pedigree of leshoure but he's in a much better spot in a system tailored to his running style.Shanahan already stated his skill set reminds him of Portis, he'll be given every opportunity to win the starting gig. Come august rookie drafts Helu could start being drafted over guys like leshoure/Thomas in many drafts if he looks good in preseason.I would too, he has the potential to take the starting roll.
'Multiple Scores said:Roy helu at 8?OUCH'Dragon1952 said:
Why does AJ Green need to bust in order for Simpson to be productive? Weren't both Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmanzadeh both effective in that offense?'footballsavvy said:Jerome Simpson at 1.07? Figured he would slide well into the 3rd round in any league where he is a free agent. Relying on AJ Green to bust doesn't seem like a good enough risk/reward to go with him that high.
that's with palmer there though. if dalton is the starter week 1 then the offense will be pretty risk averse (especially if the lockout means a very short training camp). they'll run more and throw less. the value in the cincy WRs will be diminished for a season. if chad sticks around - and that's a big if - then the WR corps is pretty muddy.i like simpson a lot. i expect him to be starting opposite green. shipley will the be slot/#3 guy. they'll be young but there is plenty of room to grow, i think.Why does AJ Green need to bust in order for Simpson to be productive? Weren't both Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmanzadeh both effective in that offense?'footballsavvy said:Jerome Simpson at 1.07? Figured he would slide well into the 3rd round in any league where he is a free agent. Relying on AJ Green to bust doesn't seem like a good enough risk/reward to go with him that high.
I'm probably wrong as is often the case. I just see a team who has a QB situation that is anything but resolved. They drafted one of the most highly regarded rookie receivers in recent years. Gresham had a semi-breakout rookie year last season, and Shipley showed enough to make me think he will command at least 60 receptions (it not more) going into his 2nd season. It's just hard to make the numbers work for Simpson. I think Simpson has skills, but its a crapshoot at this point to determine who will be fantasy relevant in CIN.that's with palmer there though. if dalton is the starter week 1 then the offense will be pretty risk averse (especially if the lockout means a very short training camp). they'll run more and throw less. the value in the cincy WRs will be diminished for a season. if chad sticks around - and that's a big if - then the WR corps is pretty muddy.i like simpson a lot. i expect him to be starting opposite green. shipley will the be slot/#3 guy. they'll be young but there is plenty of room to grow, i think.Why does AJ Green need to bust in order for Simpson to be productive? Weren't both Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmanzadeh both effective in that offense?'footballsavvy said:Jerome Simpson at 1.07? Figured he would slide well into the 3rd round in any league where he is a free agent. Relying on AJ Green to bust doesn't seem like a good enough risk/reward to go with him that high.
i don't disagree with much of what you're saying here. i just don't see chad sticking around. i don't see shipley as anything more than #3. simpson showed he can be a legit starter in a handful of games last year. green will be starting and i do expect simpson to be opposite him in the starting line up. does that mean he has terrific numbers? probably not. likely the beneficiary is gresham because TE's are rookie QB's best friends often times.I'm probably wrong as is often the case. I just see a team who has a QB situation that is anything but resolved. They drafted one of the most highly regarded rookie receivers in recent years. Gresham had a semi-breakout rookie year last season, and Shipley showed enough to make me think he will command at least 60 receptions (it not more) going into his 2nd season. It's just hard to make the numbers work for Simpson. I think Simpson has skills, but its a crapshoot at this point to determine who will be fantasy relevant in CIN.
I got him at 2.11 http://football17.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=26937&O=17No where in my logic was I relying on AJ Green to bust. Teams can support more than 1 WR and Simpson has loads of upside. Just as much as anyone else drafting at that spot. If I went Jernigan instead would I be relying on Nicks to bust?Jerome Simpson at 1.07? Figured he would slide well into the 3rd round in any league where he is a free agent. Relying on AJ Green to bust doesn't seem like a good enough risk/reward to go with him that high.
What offense? There is nothing about the 2011 offense that resembles the offense of a previous coordinator with completely different team composition. Its fair to think AJ and Simpson can both be productive, but we're talking about a new OC, QB, and OLine since the team you are comparing them to.FWIW, I think Simpson can be solid even if Palmer leaves because he has great RAC potential and Dalton's main strength is hitting guys in stride to make plays. The giant unknown for these WRs is what kind of an offense Jay Gruden is going to run in Cincy and whether Chad will be involved.Why does AJ Green need to bust in order for Simpson to be productive? Weren't both Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmanzadeh both effective in that offense?Jerome Simpson at 1.07? Figured he would slide well into the 3rd round in any league where he is a free agent. Relying on AJ Green to bust doesn't seem like a good enough risk/reward to go with him that high.
Lance Kendicks first TE off the board?12 Team PPR Flexy lineupshttp://football5.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=48544&O=17
Yep...I'm not real sure he shouldn't be either. I think Rudolph may be a better complete TE...but Kendricks was taken to be a pass catcher.'Steed said:Lance Kendicks first TE off the board?12 Team PPR Flexy lineupshttp://football5.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=48544&O=17
isn't he playing behind finley though?Yep...I'm not real sure he shouldn't be either. I think Rudolph may be a better complete TE...but Kendricks was taken to be a pass catcher.'Steed said:Lance Kendicks first TE off the board?12 Team PPR Flexy lineupshttp://football5.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=48544&O=17
St.Louis Ramsisn't he playing behind finley though?Yep...I'm not real sure he shouldn't be either. I think Rudolph may be a better complete TE...but Kendricks was taken to be a pass catcher.'Steed said:Lance Kendicks first TE off the board?12 Team PPR Flexy lineupshttp://football5.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=48544&O=17
You're thinking of DJ Williams. Yes, Kendricks should be taken before Rudolph. I took Kendricks over Rudolph in about 5 leagues already.isn't he playing behind finley though?Yep...I'm not real sure he shouldn't be either. I think Rudolph may be a better complete TE...but Kendricks was taken to be a pass catcher.'Steed said:Lance Kendicks first TE off the board?12 Team PPR Flexy lineupshttp://football5.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=48544&O=17
Kendricks will be the most productive TE of the bunch, and he wouldn't have been there for me in the 3rd... Not at all interested in Rudolph'Steed said:Lance Kendicks first TE off the board?12 Team PPR Flexy lineupshttp://football5.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=48544&O=17
I love the "skin".Where can I get me some of that sweet brown skin ?Very Interesting IDP Draft, Rookie Salary Cap made some {icks interesting; like 1.06http://football2.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=16984&O=17
If you were in Charlotte, I'd say check on the west side...I love the "skin".Where can I get me some of that sweet brown skin ?Very Interesting IDP Draft, Rookie Salary Cap made some {icks interesting; like 1.06http://football2.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=16984&O=17