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For the love of God man, I’ve written multiple posts about Steve Tasker getting in the HOF over the years and that was the worst HOF worthiness post you’ve ever read??!? I’m not sure whether to be ashamed you’ve forgotten my posts or proud that you’re ready to welcome Tasker into the HOF.
The Senior Committee is lurking…
Thank god, I’m off the hook.
It’s fine. It’s only the 2nd worst take you’ve ever read.
Can’t argue with any of these.
IMO Holt should have been in. Possibly over Hester.
Eli ManningLuke KuechlyAdam VinatieriTerrell SuggsMarshal YandaMarshawn LynchEarl ThomasJoe StaleyDemaryius ThomasAqib TalibVernon DavisDarren SprolesCameron WakeThe 3 Bears got leaked a few days ago and I would assume we’ll be seeing the Bears in the HOF game.
I’m on the fence with him as well. I understand why he got in. I’d rather see Wayne or Holt. Hell, Gates is more worthy.
Me, too. He should have been in 35 years ago. Helluva player.
I don't agree at all that this opens the door to Edelman (very good career which includes some iconic moments but he's not ever getting into the Hall) and I also think you are disrespecting/downplaying him to make a point by saying he had a "few nice runs"...the type of player this would apply to is Matthew Slater who was All Pro 5 times, made 10 Pro Bowls and won 3 rings while being one of the leaders of those teams...IMO the Hall of Fames in every sport needs to be revamped ...Bill Simmons nails it in his Book of Basketball with ideas like having a tiered system where you would have guys like Hester who are deserving in the Hall but not at the same level of a Jim Brown or Jerry Rice...he also had categories like Greatest Role Players (perfect spot for someone like Slater IMO) and the Record Holders so you can acknowledge these types of players in the Hall but again, not put them on par with a Unitas, LT or Deion...I think this is a very fair way to do things and IMO would make it even more interesting and tell the history of the sport better.
Hopkins will be an interesting candidate to evaluate. He's put up some flashy numbers on some otherwise non-descript teams. His teams have gone 2-4 in the playoffs, with limited contribution on his part in the postseason prior to his 9-118-0 game against the Chiefs in 2019 (his last playoff appearance).
Guess my take on Gates wasn’t so outlandish.
Honestly I think its more to the true name of the institution being called the Hall of Fame really more than anything. You need to be "famous" anymore to get it more so than just having great stats. Hester vs Brian Mitchell is a great example of this. Brian Mitchell never "wowed" anyone while Hester was "electric" and a lot of people/kids bought his jerseys. I would be curious to know how many sales of the Brian Mitchell jersey in total is. 125? 5000? 7500? I'm betting its not a lot.
Or maybe they took issue with his PED usage.Guess my take on Gates wasn’t so outlandish.
My reaction to your posts was to some of the comments that you made, like Gates being 1st ballot Hall of Very Good, etc. Some of what you wrote did not appear to be commentary limited exclusively to 1st ballot but more broadly to his HOF worthiness. Given you intended it to be solely about the former, you were obviously right.
IMO the fact that Gates didn't make it in this class just shows that HOF voters make mistakes. Putting Hester in over him is a complete joke and weakens the quality and meaning of being a Pro Football HOFer.
Who knows. Maybe Hester has a better publicist. All-time, Mitchell ranks #1 in punt return yardage, #1 in kickoff return yardage, and #3 in punt return TD. But like you alluded to, nobody knows and nobody cares. I'm not a huge fan of inducting special teamers, and if they did, I'd suggest that they give them a shelf in a closet in Canton away from the "real" HOFers. Personally, I don't think they made enough impact on games since they play so few snaps. What's next, a HOF long snapper? A holder on kicks? I've watched almost every game Matthew Slater played in his career. He's been one of the great kick coverage guys to ever play. 10 Pro Bowl selections, twice a first team All-Pro. He's had 191 tackles in 16 years. To me, not even worth mentioning as a HOFer.
Yeah 100% I agree with you here. To me its "Wow awesome you are great at special teams" which is not anything to sneeze at juxtaposed against "Well if you couldn't really get on the field as a regular position player, were you *really* that great?"
I agree with the premise here. But for instance there really aren't a whole lot of OL in the Hall of Fame, considering there are 5 that play each game for a team compared to QB which is just 1.
This one is relatively easy to explain. Most of the time, we only hear a lineman's name on a broadcast when he commits a penalty. The rest of the game, he could play the game of his life, and they won't even mention him. The other time we hear about or see him is when he allows a sack (especially on a strip sack). Most of us on here have a more intimate knowledge of the game, but the casual fan probably couldn't name many offensive linemen. One day when I'm bored, I may do a deeper dive in terms of roster management, draft history, and cap dollar allocation to see how winning teams put together their O-lines. I might have to save that one for recovery from an injury or surgery.
Yeah, that's some serious bull **** right there.
Counterpoint: It opens the door a crack for Steve Tasker.
We don't know what we don't know. Hopkins could end up getting released. Or getting hurt. Or losing a step and struggling to get 400 yards this year. We don't know what his final totals will be, nor do we know what the leaderboard will look like 5 years after he retires. For example, Evans is younger and not that far behind. Adams is the same age, but he could catch up if he plays longer then Nuk. And Tyreek is 2 years younger and if healthy should catch up and pass up Hopkins pretty quickly (unless he tires of getting paid gobs of money). It's best to wait until a player is HOF eligible and done playing to have these discussions. But where's the fun in that.
For sure. Who would have predicted Thielen to just get a 1000 yards at 33 with a rookie QB. Football is always gonna football.
You got me man. I actually took a few seconds to Google his career teams. I was like did I remember it wrong? Ha ha
I mean I guess I agree, but at the same time the people that vote on this stuff are supposed to be "Serious" people that "know football"
