Ran a 10k in June (1 Viewer)

[El Floppo]

The weatherman is killing me. We have literally gone from 70s to rain to SNOW and now back to the 50s. So, I am going to dress in the morning for the 50s, with a trash bag or two, but will have my cold weather stuff in a bag. We only live about 12 miles from the start finish, but were talking stooped Detroit traffic and construction, so well leave out of here around 6am. I can eat breakfast in the parking garage just as well as I can on the couch, but will feel better being there.

Hey, 2Young. FWIW, I'd probably go singlet and shorts for race temps in the 50s. I wear an old long-sleeve t-shirt to the start, then ditch it just before the gun goes off. Anything more than that, and I think I'd be too hot.

Very Might also be worth hitting up a local outlet store or 2nd hand store and getting a windbreaker/rain top- also to be ditched.One of my best friends ran the NYC marathon years ago- race started with sleet, in the 30s. He had gotten a rainish top and some cheap sweat pants that he ditched after working up a sweat. Plus- somebody goes along the course (at least for NYC) and collects all the ditched clothing to give to charity.

 

[2Young2BBald]

The weatherman is killing me. We have literally gone from 70s to rain to SNOW and now back to the 50s. So, I am going to dress in the morning for the 50s, with a trash bag or two, but will have my cold weather stuff in a bag. We only live about 12 miles from the start finish, but were talking stooped Detroit traffic and construction, so well leave out of here around 6am. I can eat breakfast in the parking garage just as well as I can on the couch, but will feel better being there.

Hey, 2Young. FWIW, I'd probably go singlet and shorts for race temps in the 50s. I wear an old long-sleeve t-shirt to the start, then ditch it just before the gun goes off. Anything more than that, and I think I'd be too hot.

Very Might also be worth hitting up a local outlet store or 2nd hand store and getting a windbreaker/rain top- also to be ditched.One of my best friends ran the NYC marathon years ago- race started with sleet, in the 30s. He had gotten a rainish top and some cheap sweat pants that he ditched after working up a sweat. Plus- somebody goes along the course (at least for NYC) and collects all the ditched clothing to give to charity.

The disposable shirt idea was encouraged by a friend of ours too. They do pick up and donate all of the stuff shed during the event. This poses more logistics. I don't really like wearing my number on my shorts and would like to see the race photos, triggered by the number. I ran 4 miles toady in the mid 50s with a long sleve wicking shirt and cotton long sleve cover to simulate the disposable shirt. I was comfy and not too hot. I am guessing that the 50s might not be seen until the last few miles. I have a long sleve cover with a zipper that goes mid way nd had a thumb hole for hand cover. I did a 10K a few weks ago in the same thing where the temp was 49 or so and this was warm when the sun came out, but otherwise just about right. The way things are going, I likely need gear for hodes of locust so I wont make any decesions until Saturday. I got POS golf cover I can lose too, so I am set for just about anything.THIS TRIGGERED ANOTHER QUESTION: I'll be sure to check, but should I expect I can buy one of the warming balkets at the end? They are not ending the race inside Ford Field due to a Lions game. We are finishing out doors, but will have acess to the Compuware Building. If I come in anywhere between 2 hours to 2 hours & twenty minutes I should finish ahead of my wife and other I know and would like to be there to chear them at the finish, but will be freezing my butt off once I cool down. Part of the plan calls for $100 bill in the shorts just in case for whatever.

 

[tri-man 47]

2Young - LOL, hey, just suck it up and run a little cold. It'll keep you moving. GREAT plans for the after-race party!!!

I did my last training run this morning. It was an excellent 10 mile run. I took it out easy and then consciously worked the stride on the return. This actually worked out to 8:15/mile out, and 7:45/mile back - very encouraging for the marathon where my top-end goal is 8:13/mile (Boston qualifier). To control my pace going out I was breathing every third step, rather than my normal two-step (I know - confusing to think about the breathing pattern). Got some rain for a couple miles coming back ...also good to acclimate to possible conditions. Overall temp was mid-50's: I wore a short-sleeve wicking shirt, running shorts (with inner compression lining), running cap, and my running gloves. That was very comfortable ...I wouldn't have wanted more.

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

Just got back from running 9 miles in the rain and low 50s. It seems like I have one of these runs every week lately, but it really hasn't been bothering me. Sure, I'm soaked by the time I get home, but I'd be soaked from sweat anyway so it's just the cold that's a little different.

 

[SFBayDuck]

My longest run to date this morning, right around 8 miles at 10:00 pace. Still hard to believe that just this spring I was struggling through the couch to 5K plan, dreading that first 20 minute session, and now I'm running four times that far without too much difficulty.

I'm still trying to find something to point to in the next few months to keep me focused. In reading some training plans, it talks a lot about "building a base". Is there any real trick to this, or just getting as many miles in as I can, focusing on at least one long run per week, in order to build my base cardio level? If I don't find another race to target until spring, at least I can "build my base", but I want to make sure I'm understanding what I'm trying to accomplish there.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Whew!…Atlantic City ½ marathon is over. Well, I reached all of my goals!!! Barely reached the 2 hour time goal b/c I started out slowly. Didn't want to go out too fast but I ended up going way too slowly. My first mile was about 9:45. I saw that and picked up the pace and my 2nd mile was 9:15. I picked up the pace even more and finally found my groove in mile 3. I think the majority of my remaining miles were between 8:50 and 9:10. I felt pretty good until about mile 11 and then me legs felt pretty heavy. No way was I stopping though since I could pretty much see the finish at the end of the boardwalk and I knew my wife and friends were there waiting for me. I sprinted my ### off and probably ran the fastest 1-1.5 miles of my life to end the race. I would tell you the actual time it took except in my celebration/delirium at the finish line I accidentally hit the reset button on my watch instead of the save button, so I lost all of my timings. I was SOOOOO pissed off. I did look at my watch at the finish and I came in at 1:59:5x. Don't remember the actual seconds but it was something like 54 so it was REAL close to 2 hours. Felt great though since I knew I started slowly and made up the time throughout the run.

They still haven't posted the final results and I did not stick around when the race ended to find out since I thought I saved my timings on my watch. I will post them when they do.

Some random thoughts:

1. GB body glide

2. :finger: to the race organizers for canceling the pasta dinner and just giving everyone a free pass to the dinner buffet at the casino. All the runners were peeved since we were pretty much stuck eating pasta while we were at this New Orleans style buffet. It took every ounce of my being not to eat the fried Cajun catfish and the bananas foster.

3. I had to pee for the last 10 miles…I know it was only a 13 mile race.

4. It sux getting passed by marathoners at mile 4 since they actually started their race going 1 mile in the other direction and then coming back to our ½ course

Anyway, calves are sore, quads are sore, and I am still hungry. Thanks for all of the support from this group. Made the tough stretches a little easier thinking about all of your stories and accomplishments.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Whew!…Atlantic City ½ marathon is over. Well, I reached all of my goals!!! Barely reached the 2 hour time goal b/c I started out slowly. Didn't want to go out too fast but I ended up going way too slowly. My first mile was about 9:45. I saw that and picked up the pace and my 2nd mile was 9:15. I picked up the pace even more and finally found my groove in mile 3. I think the majority of my remaining miles were between 8:50 and 9:10. I felt pretty good until about mile 11 and then me legs felt pretty heavy. No way was I stopping though since I could pretty much see the finish at the end of the boardwalk and I knew my wife and friends were there waiting for me. I sprinted my ### off and probably ran the fastest 1-1.5 miles of my life to end the race. I would tell you the actual time it took except in my celebration/delirium at the finish line I accidentally hit the reset button on my watch instead of the save button, so I lost all of my timings. I was SOOOOO pissed off. I did look at my watch at the finish and I came in at 1:59:5x. Don't remember the actual seconds but it was something like 54 so it was REAL close to 2 hours. Felt great though since I knew I started slowly and made up the time throughout the run.They still haven't posted the final results and I did not stick around when the race ended to find out since I thought I saved my timings on my watch. I will post them when they do.Some random thoughts:1. GB body glide2. :finger: to the race organizers for canceling the pasta dinner and just giving everyone a free pass to the dinner buffet at the casino. All the runners were peeved since we were pretty much stuck eating pasta while we were at this New Orleans style buffet. It took every ounce of my being not to eat the fried Cajun catfish and the bananas foster. 3. I had to pee for the last 10 miles…I know it was only a 13 mile race. 4. It sux getting passed by marathoners at mile 4 since they actually started their race going 1 mile in the other direction and then coming back to our ½ course Anyway, calves are sore, quads are sore, and I am still hungry. Thanks for all of the support from this group. Made the tough stretches a little easier thinking about all of your stories and accomplishments. :(

Great, great job and congratulations!!!

 

[gruecd]

2Young - LOL, hey, just suck it up and run a little cold. It'll keep you moving. GREAT plans for the after-race party!!!

I did my last training run this morning. It was an excellent 10 mile run. I took it out easy and then consciously worked the stride on the return. This actually worked out to 8:15/mile out, and 7:45/mile back - very encouraging for the marathon where my top-end goal is 8:13/mile (Boston qualifier). To control my pace going out I was breathing every third step, rather than my normal two-step (I know - confusing to think about the breathing pattern). Got some rain for a couple miles coming back ...also good to acclimate to possible conditions. Overall temp was mid-50's: I wore a short-sleeve wicking shirt, running shorts (with inner compression lining), running cap, and my running gloves. That was very comfortable ...I wouldn't have wanted more.

Hey, tri-man, awesome job on the training run this morning, and best of luck with the marathon next weekend! With any luck, we'll get a chance to meet in Boston next spring!Did an easy 9-mile run of my own this morning, but my legs were pretty sore after doing a "double" yesterday (5-mile race in the morning, and another easy 4-miler in the afternoon). Finished this morning's run in 1:14:06 (8:14 pace), which felt slow to me, but which is also where I probably should be running for my recovery runs.

 

[mr. id]

Ran my 5-mile race in 33:02 (6:36 pace), good for a 62-second PR, 12th overall, and 4th in the 30-39 age group. Had the privilege of meeting Furley and his wife before the race. Saw him afterwards, and he ran the 2-mile in 21-something, but he said that his foot was hurting pretty bad this morning. At least he accomplished his goal of beating the winner of the 5-mile race.

i also beat all the walkers and most of the kids

 

[tri-man 47]

My longest run to date this morning, right around 8 miles at 10:00 pace. Still hard to believe that just this spring I was struggling through the couch to 5K plan, dreading that first 20 minute session, and now I'm running four times that far without too much difficulty.I'm still trying to find something to point to in the next few months to keep me focused. In reading some training plans, it talks a lot about "building a base". Is there any real trick to this, or just getting as many miles in as I can, focusing on at least one long run per week, in order to build my base cardio level? If I don't find another race to target until spring, at least I can "build my base", but I want to make sure I'm understanding what I'm trying to accomplish there.

Fun to read of your progress this season! I would describe the base building as a process of (a) improving your aerobic capacity, and (b) building your muscles through strength work (focusing on reps, not power), core training, and flexibility. The latter items can be through any combination of pushups/situps, Pilates, yoga, etc. To improve aerobic capacity, it's about slow (or certainly slower), easy workouts. So no real trick to it. What you're doing in (a) is focusing on the key muscle for endurance events - the heart. For (b), I like to think of it as training all the muscles, especially smaller muscles, and improving blood flow - it's not about getting big and muscular. It's about teaching all the muscles to work together in balance and to support them with good, efficient oxygen flow. So allow your routines to vary; eat well; get rest; don't stress. Enjoy - you've earned it!

 

[tri-man 47]

DolphinsPhan - way to go!!

furley ...you too!!! You've come far this year. Hopefully you're looking forward to building on this next year.

 

[mr. furley]

definitely. setting my goal next year at running a 10k.

 

[gruecd]

definitely. setting my goal next year at running a 10k.

Screw the 10K. Hook up with the Prevea training group beginning in January (last year's info), and run the half marathon in May in Green Bay! I'm running Boston a month earlier, so I'll be doing the half, too. Consider the gauntlet thrown down!

 

[mr. furley]

good lord. you are insane.

i'm a ways off from the half-marathon.

 

[bentley]

I'm wif Furley. My 10k debut is going to be in late March.

Capitol 10K

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

good lord. you are insane.i'm a ways off from the half-marathon.

You could do it. I started running in June of '06, ran my first 5K in September of '06, and ran my first half marathon in May of '07. Follow a training plan and you can do it.

 

[gruecd]

good lord. you are insane.

i'm a ways off from the half-marathon.

You could do it. I started running in June of '06, ran my first 5K in September of '06, and ran my first half marathon in May of '07. Follow a training plan and you can do it.

I did my first marathon in May 2004 despite never having raced anything longer than 5 miles. Between now and January, just get the point where you have the ability to run 3 miles, three to four times a week, and then show up every Saturday morning for the group training runs. That's it.

C'mon, Furley, no guts, no glory!

 

[tri-man 47]

Bentley, furley ...I'm fine with the 10Ks. That's a good goal to carry you through the winter. I spent a number of years focusing solely on 5Ks - there's a lot to be said for those moderate length races!

 

[gruecd]

Bentley, furley ...I'm fine with the 10Ks. That's a good goal to carry you through the winter. I spent a number of years focusing solely on 5Ks - there's a lot to be said for those moderate length races!

Party pooper! Honestly, I'm OK with the 10K, too, but I do think that he could be ready for a half marathon in May, and Green Bay is a great race. Starts and finishes at Lambeau, and you get to run a lap through the stadium and everything (as part of the race). Great food (and beer) and crowd support and everything. I just think it would make a great race for Furley's half marathon debut!

 

[Sid]

I just completed my couch potato to 5K program. I ran for 30 minutes on Saturday and on Sunday, my first time doing "long" runs on simultaneous days. Now I have to decide what to do next. I think I'll maintain the 30 minutes, 3 times a week for now, and aim to run an actual 5K race in the next month. We'll see how that goes.

Are there any programs out there to move from the point I'm at now to running a 10K eventually? I have a long way to go for that, but I came a long way in 9 weeks, so we'll see how it goes..

 

[gruecd]

I just completed my couch potato to 5K program. I ran for 30 minutes on Saturday and on Sunday, my first time doing "long" runs on simultaneous days. Now I have to decide what to do next. I think I'll maintain the 30 minutes, 3 times a week for now, and aim to run an actual 5K race in the next month. We'll see how that goes.

Are there any programs out there to move from the point I'm at now to running a 10K eventually? I have a long way to go for that, but I came a long way in 9 weeks, so we'll see how it goes..

Try this 8-week training plan from Hal Higdon.

 

[El Floppo]

Bentley, furley ...I'm fine with the 10Ks. That's a good goal to carry you through the winter. I spent a number of years focusing solely on 5Ks - there's a lot to be said for those moderate length races!

Party pooper! Honestly, I'm OK with the 10K, too, but I do think that he could be ready for a half marathon in May, and Green Bay is a great race. Starts and finishes at Lambeau, and you get to run a lap through the stadium and everything (as part of the race). Great food (and beer) and crowd support and everything. I just think it would make a great race for Furley's half marathon debut!

10ks are nice and all- but once you start adding the word "marathon" to things it adds a lot of fun/excitement to it, IMO. The training is great- and then you hurt your knee...

 

[gruecd]

The training is great.....

Except when you're training for Boston in the heart of the Midwest winter....

 

[DolphinsPhan]

I just completed my couch potato to 5K program. I ran for 30 minutes on Saturday and on Sunday, my first time doing "long" runs on simultaneous days. Now I have to decide what to do next. I think I'll maintain the 30 minutes, 3 times a week for now, and aim to run an actual 5K race in the next month. We'll see how that goes.

Are there any programs out there to move from the point I'm at now to running a 10K eventually? I have a long way to go for that, but I came a long way in 9 weeks, so we'll see how it goes..

Try this 8-week training plan from Hal Higdon.

I like Hal. I used his programs for my 5K and my 1/2 marathon...and I am still alive!

 

[DolphinsPhan]

definitely. setting my goal next year at running a 10k.

Good luck. World's Fastest 10K record just beaten. You better get training Furley...LINK

 

[tri-man 47]

Bentley, furley ...I'm fine with the 10Ks. That's a good goal to carry you through the winter. I spent a number of years focusing solely on 5Ks - there's a lot to be said for those moderate length races!

Party pooper! Honestly, I'm OK with the 10K, too, but I do think that he could be ready for a half marathon in May, and Green Bay is a great race. Starts and finishes at Lambeau, and you get to run a lap through the stadium and everything (as part of the race). Great food (and beer) and crowd support and everything. I just think it would make a great race for Furley's half marathon debut!

10ks are nice and all- but once you start adding the word "marathon" to things it adds a lot of fun/excitement to it, IMO. The training is great- and then you hurt your knee...

:finger: I survived a whole lot of years without a marathon, and had a lot of fun. If some of the guys want to target a 10K, given the alternative of NOT having a goal, then kudos to them. They can build up to the longer races if and when they choose.

 

[gruecd]

:finger: I survived a whole lot of years without a marathon, and had a lot of fun. If some of the guys want to target a 10K, given the alternative of NOT having a goal, then kudos to them. They can build up to the longer races if and when they choose.

Sorry, tri-man, didn't mean to touch a nerve. The shorter stuff is a lot of fun, and I absolutely agree; any goal, whether it's 10K, 5K, or 2-mile, is preferable to having no goal. I think what El Floppo is saying is that the marathon (or half marathon, for that matter) is more of an "experience."(And I'm pretty sure you don't want to me. I'm pretty sure that I'd have a distinct reach advantage. )

 

[gruecd]

By the way, here are my pics from the TC10 in Minneapolis. I really like a couple of them, but the prices make me feel like I'm ordering wedding pictures all over again. $15K for a 5x7?!

 

[RoarinSonoran]

:finger: to DolphinsPhan and his 1:59:5x.

lol

Missed my own 1:59:59 goal by [MaxwellSmart]that much[/max], finishing in 2:02:19. However, that's a new PR, breaking the previous mark set just six weeks ago by about 3mins.

I seem to have a mental/physical block at around 7mi, just like at Virginia Beach. Weather was great, course was flat, but I just started breaking down and had to walk after that point. I got to 10mi at 1:32:26, leaving 27:33 to complete the final 5k to get my goal. I did the FIRST 5k in 27:35, so I know I could have done it, and did have the speed in the tank, but I couldn't sustain the pace for longer than a couple of blocks at a time. I needed to do the final mile in about 8mins, so the goal was still mathematically in reach, but I just couldn't keep up the pace. At least this time I was mentally alert in the latter stages, and was still in the game until the end (unlike Virginia Beach six weeks ago, where I was mentally out of it).

I did have a bit of a mental lapse during the race. The course zigzagged a bit, as the race organizers were trying to avoid running across the light rail tracks. So, the course managed to touch itself twice ( ) on the out and back. First we saw the leaders zipping past at one point (effing showoffs! ), then later saw more of the runners ahead of us. So of course I eventually looped around to these points, and then can't understand why all the people on the other side are walking! Certainly they shouldn't be walking so near the finish, right? Ok, whatever, and I continued on. I got to the other touch point (where we saw the leaders), and then it dawned on me. Those folks are the WALKERS, and they're a few miles BEHIND ME!! lol

I bought ChiRunning off of Ebay last week, and received it on Thursday. So I started reading it, getting about halfway through by Saturday. I even tried to apply some of the principles to my race, mainly the items about being aware of my body and staying relaxed. I know a race is not the time/place to try something new, so I knew I wasn't going to master it at that time, but it at least put the ideas in my head and gave me some mental exercises. I had to pull my shoulders out of my ears a time or two, etc. I look forward to putting it into practice.

All in all, a good race. I'm a little disappointed in not reaching my goal, but that's countered by still setting a PR. I'm a little achey today, my I-T is at me, but otherwise came out of it unscathed.

That being said, while Geb's 2:04:26 was impressive, I'm just wondering when we'll see the first person break 2 hours in the marathon.

Former record holder Khalid Khannouchi (he was part of a Q&A they had at the race expo) doesn't think it can be done. On the other hand, I fully intend to be the person to do it.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

:finger: to DolphinsPhan and his 1:59:5x.

lol

Missed my own 1:59:59 goal by [MaxwellSmart]that much[/max], finishing in 2:02:19. However, that's a new PR, breaking the previous mark set just six weeks ago by about 3mins.

I seem to have a mental/physical block at around 7mi, just like at Virginia Beach. Weather was great, course was flat, but I just started breaking down and had to walk after that point. I got to 10mi at 1:32:26, leaving 27:33 to complete the final 5k to get my goal. I did the FIRST 5k in 27:35, so I know I could have done it, and did have the speed in the tank, but I couldn't sustain the pace for longer than a couple of blocks at a time. I needed to do the final mile in about 8mins, so the goal was still mathematically in reach, but I just couldn't keep up the pace. At least this time I was mentally alert in the latter stages, and was still in the game until the end (unlike Virginia Beach six weeks ago, where I was mentally out of it).

I did have a bit of a mental lapse during the race. The course zigzagged a bit, as the race organizers were trying to avoid running across the light rail tracks. So, the course managed to touch itself twice ( ) on the out and back. First we saw the leaders zipping past at one point (effing showoffs! ), then later saw more of the runners ahead of us. So of course I eventually looped around to these points, and then can't understand why all the people on the other side are walking! Certainly they shouldn't be walking so near the finish, right? Ok, whatever, and I continued on. I got to the other touch point (where we saw the leaders), and then it dawned on me. Those folks are the WALKERS, and they're a few miles BEHIND ME!! lol

I bought ChiRunning off of Ebay last week, and received it on Thursday. So I started reading it, getting about halfway through by Saturday. I even tried to apply some of the principles to my race, mainly the items about being aware of my body and staying relaxed. I know a race is not the time/place to try something new, so I knew I wasn't going to master it at that time, but it at least put the ideas in my head and gave me some mental exercises. I had to pull my shoulders out of my ears a time or two, etc. I look forward to putting it into practice.

All in all, a good race. I'm a little disappointed in not reaching my goal, but that's countered by still setting a PR. I'm a little achey today, my I-T is at me, but otherwise came out of it unscathed.

Awesome RS!!! Congrats on the PR Knowing that you walked a little bit and only missed your time goal by 2 minutes, gives you an "easy" goal for your next 1/2!Let me know how that Chi Running book is...

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Sig updated.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Sig updated.

So you ran 3 marathons and 2 halfs in a 9 month span???

 

[Darrinll40]

Nice reports RS and DP. Congrats to both of you on your races. My half is just a month from tomorrow and I think I am ready for it. Saturday I did 11 miles in 1:48 and Sunday I ran 7 miles. Today I am biking with the wife, but I will be running Tuesday and Wednesday. My run Saturday made me think that I may be able to beat 2 hours in the half, but it is not something I am going to shoot for. If I can average 10 minute miles I will be thrilled.

 

[pigskinliquors]

:finger: to DolphinsPhan and his 1:59:5x.

lol

Missed my own 1:59:59 goal by [MaxwellSmart]that much[/max], finishing in 2:02:19. However, that's a new PR, breaking the previous mark set just six weeks ago by about 3mins.

I seem to have a mental/physical block at around 7mi, just like at Virginia Beach. Weather was great, course was flat, but I just started breaking down and had to walk after that point. I got to 10mi at 1:32:26, leaving 27:33 to complete the final 5k to get my goal. I did the FIRST 5k in 27:35, so I know I could have done it, and did have the speed in the tank, but I couldn't sustain the pace for longer than a couple of blocks at a time. I needed to do the final mile in about 8mins, so the goal was still mathematically in reach, but I just couldn't keep up the pace. At least this time I was mentally alert in the latter stages, and was still in the game until the end (unlike Virginia Beach six weeks ago, where I was mentally out of it).

I did have a bit of a mental lapse during the race. The course zigzagged a bit, as the race organizers were trying to avoid running across the light rail tracks. So, the course managed to touch itself twice ( ) on the out and back. First we saw the leaders zipping past at one point (effing showoffs! ), then later saw more of the runners ahead of us. So of course I eventually looped around to these points, and then can't understand why all the people on the other side are walking! Certainly they shouldn't be walking so near the finish, right? Ok, whatever, and I continued on. I got to the other touch point (where we saw the leaders), and then it dawned on me. Those folks are the WALKERS, and they're a few miles BEHIND ME!! lol

I bought ChiRunning off of Ebay last week, and received it on Thursday. So I started reading it, getting about halfway through by Saturday. I even tried to apply some of the principles to my race, mainly the items about being aware of my body and staying relaxed. I know a race is not the time/place to try something new, so I knew I wasn't going to master it at that time, but it at least put the ideas in my head and gave me some mental exercises. I had to pull my shoulders out of my ears a time or two, etc. I look forward to putting it into practice.

All in all, a good race. I'm a little disappointed in not reaching my goal, but that's countered by still setting a PR. I'm a little achey today, my I-T is at me, but otherwise came out of it unscathed.

That being said, while Geb's 2:04:26 was impressive, I'm just wondering when we'll see the first person break 2 hours in the marathon.

Former record holder Khalid Khannouchi (he was part of a Q&A they had at the race expo) doesn't think it can be done. On the other hand, I fully intend to be the person to do it.

Giddy'up!!! Great race, and congrat's on completing your signature!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to hear how Chi Running works for you. I'm still on injured reserve as I'm resting for a 100k bike ride next weekend (decided that I'd rather injure myself during the ride than before), but will hopefully start Chi running soon after.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Bentley, furley ...I'm fine with the 10Ks. That's a good goal to carry you through the winter. I spent a number of years focusing solely on 5Ks - there's a lot to be said for those moderate length races!

Party pooper! Honestly, I'm OK with the 10K, too, but I do think that he could be ready for a half marathon in May, and Green Bay is a great race. Starts and finishes at Lambeau, and you get to run a lap through the stadium and everything (as part of the race). Great food (and beer) and crowd support and everything. I just think it would make a great race for Furley's half marathon debut!

10ks are nice and all- but once you start adding the word "marathon" to things it adds a lot of fun/excitement to it, IMO. The training is great- and then you hurt your knee...

:finger: I survived a whole lot of years without a marathon, and had a lot of fun. If some of the guys want to target a 10K, given the alternative of NOT having a goal, then kudos to them. They can build up to the longer races if and when they choose.

I'm pretty sure I'm headed in the reverse direction. I keep wanting to train for marathons, but believe I may need to concentrate on shorter distances, and running for pleasure vs. trying to run for speed. Running and completing a 10k sounds much better right now than training for another marathon, only to injure myself once I near race day. Goal #1 (just finishing) hasn't been achieved enough lately as I've made it secondary. I hope to be able to firmly have Goal #1 at the center of all training (time will tell!).

 

[Darrinll40]

:finger: to DolphinsPhan and his 1:59:5x.

lol

Missed my own 1:59:59 goal by [MaxwellSmart]that much[/max], finishing in 2:02:19. However, that's a new PR, breaking the previous mark set just six weeks ago by about 3mins.

I seem to have a mental/physical block at around 7mi, just like at Virginia Beach. Weather was great, course was flat, but I just started breaking down and had to walk after that point. I got to 10mi at 1:32:26, leaving 27:33 to complete the final 5k to get my goal. I did the FIRST 5k in 27:35, so I know I could have done it, and did have the speed in the tank, but I couldn't sustain the pace for longer than a couple of blocks at a time. I needed to do the final mile in about 8mins, so the goal was still mathematically in reach, but I just couldn't keep up the pace. At least this time I was mentally alert in the latter stages, and was still in the game until the end (unlike Virginia Beach six weeks ago, where I was mentally out of it).

I did have a bit of a mental lapse during the race. The course zigzagged a bit, as the race organizers were trying to avoid running across the light rail tracks. So, the course managed to touch itself twice ( ) on the out and back. First we saw the leaders zipping past at one point (effing showoffs! ), then later saw more of the runners ahead of us. So of course I eventually looped around to these points, and then can't understand why all the people on the other side are walking! Certainly they shouldn't be walking so near the finish, right? Ok, whatever, and I continued on. I got to the other touch point (where we saw the leaders), and then it dawned on me. Those folks are the WALKERS, and they're a few miles BEHIND ME!! lol

I bought ChiRunning off of Ebay last week, and received it on Thursday. So I started reading it, getting about halfway through by Saturday. I even tried to apply some of the principles to my race, mainly the items about being aware of my body and staying relaxed. I know a race is not the time/place to try something new, so I knew I wasn't going to master it at that time, but it at least put the ideas in my head and gave me some mental exercises. I had to pull my shoulders out of my ears a time or two, etc. I look forward to putting it into practice.

All in all, a good race. I'm a little disappointed in not reaching my goal, but that's countered by still setting a PR. I'm a little achey today, my I-T is at me, but otherwise came out of it unscathed.

That being said, while Geb's 2:04:26 was impressive, I'm just wondering when we'll see the first person break 2 hours in the marathon.

Former record holder Khalid Khannouchi (he was part of a Q&A they had at the race expo) doesn't think it can be done. On the other hand, I fully intend to be the person to do it.

Giddy'up!!! Great race, and congrat's on completing your signature!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to hear how Chi Running works for you. I'm still on injured reserve as I'm resting for a 100k bike ride next weekend (decided that I'd rather injure myself during the ride than before), but will hopefully start Chi running soon after.

I have been going over the Chi running book, and it seems to be helping. My run Saturday felt almost effortless, and Sunday was a good one also. But I have no idea if I am doing it correctly. Are any of you guys any good at this. This afternoon I am going to record myself running and post it to my video site, and I would love some feedback.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

So you ran 3 marathons and 2 halfs in a 9 month span???

About 230 others also ran the series, but I wouldn't be surprised if a few ran only one marathon and four halfs (AZ/TN had both, SD was only full, VB/SJ were only halfs). If someone managed to run San Diego with Team In Training (SD has a special half turnoff for TNT), they conceivably could have completed the series with FIVE halfs.But yah, I had a midlife crisis and ran three fulls and two halfs. I couldn't afford a Corvette...or a mistress...so running 400miles ytd it was. There was one psycho even more crazed than I was. A friend of a friend, I met him in Virginia Beach. He wasn't satisfied with a half, so he got out there two hours early, ran the course in reverse, then jumped in his corral and ran it again with the rest of us. He did the same thing in San Jose. So, he ran five FULLS on the year.

 

[Dash]

So you ran 3 marathons and 2 halfs in a 9 month span???

About 230 others also ran the series, but I wouldn't be surprised if a few ran only one marathon and four halfs (AZ/TN had both, SD was only full, VB/SJ were only halfs). If someone managed to run San Diego with Team In Training (SD has a special half turnoff for TNT), they conceivably could have completed the series with FIVE halfs.

But yah, I had a midlife crisis and ran three fulls and two halfs. I couldn't afford a Corvette...or a mistress...so running 400miles ytd it was.

There was one psycho even more crazed than I was. A friend of a friend, I met him in Virginia Beach. He wasn't satisfied with a half, so he got out there two hours early, ran the course in reverse, then jumped in his corral and ran it again with the rest of us. He did the same thing in San Jose. So, he ran five FULLS on the year.

First, great job getting your goals Roarin! That's a lot of running. Second, that's a good lead in for an article that is sort of part two from an article I posted a couple months back. A local guy decided to lose weight, run marathons, and raise money for Life International (helps with adoptions). He's done 8 marathons so far this year and has 5 more to go. Link

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Oh, I found out at the Expo that this Rockstar series is growing next year. They're adding a San Antonio full&half marathon November'08. Possibly adding another race (Philly half?) in '09.

No, I won't be chasing it next year. lol I think I'll wait until they've settled down with the expansion ('10, '11?), then go after the seven races. We'll see.

Tho, that San Antonio race looks appealing. It'll be the inaugural race, so it would be cool to be a part of that.

They added another medal this year (the Desert Star; run any half in the series this year, plus PF Chang's full in January), so I'll be running in my backyard to get that one. May as well, since I have half of it already. lol

 

[tri-man 47]

:finger: I survived a whole lot of years without a marathon, and had a lot of fun. If some of the guys want to target a 10K, given the alternative of NOT having a goal, then kudos to them. They can build up to the longer races if and when they choose.

Sorry, tri-man, didn't mean to touch a nerve. The shorter stuff is a lot of fun, and I absolutely agree; any goal, whether it's 10K, 5K, or 2-mile, is preferable to having no goal. I think what El Floppo is saying is that the marathon (or half marathon, for that matter) is more of an "experience."(And I'm pretty sure you don't want to me. I'm pretty sure that I'd have a distinct reach advantage. )

Ah, you guys didn't touch a nerve - I just like to pick on ya. Hopefully we can continue the debate in Boston.

 

[tri-man 47]

...a new PR...

Way to go, RockStar, for the PR and the whole series!!!

 

[El Floppo]

The training is great.....

Except when you're training for Boston in the heart of the Midwest winter....

You think it's tough running- try biking through winter.

 

[El Floppo]

:finger: I survived a whole lot of years without a marathon, and had a lot of fun. If some of the guys want to target a 10K, given the alternative of NOT having a goal, then kudos to them. They can build up to the longer races if and when they choose.

Sorry, tri-man, didn't mean to touch a nerve. The shorter stuff is a lot of fun, and I absolutely agree; any goal, whether it's 10K, 5K, or 2-mile, is preferable to having no goal. I think what El Floppo is saying is that the marathon (or half marathon, for that matter) is more of an "experience."(And I'm pretty sure you don't want to me. I'm pretty sure that I'd have a distinct reach advantage. )

Nope.I'm saying 10ks are for losers.

eta:

 

[El Floppo]

:finger: to DolphinsPhan and his 1:59:5x.

lol

Missed my own 1:59:59 goal by [MaxwellSmart]that much[/max], finishing in 2:02:19. However, that's a new PR, breaking the previous mark set just six weeks ago by about 3mins.

I seem to have a mental/physical block at around 7mi, just like at Virginia Beach. Weather was great, course was flat, but I just started breaking down and had to walk after that point. I got to 10mi at 1:32:26, leaving 27:33 to complete the final 5k to get my goal. I did the FIRST 5k in 27:35, so I know I could have done it, and did have the speed in the tank, but I couldn't sustain the pace for longer than a couple of blocks at a time. I needed to do the final mile in about 8mins, so the goal was still mathematically in reach, but I just couldn't keep up the pace. At least this time I was mentally alert in the latter stages, and was still in the game until the end (unlike Virginia Beach six weeks ago, where I was mentally out of it).

I did have a bit of a mental lapse during the race. The course zigzagged a bit, as the race organizers were trying to avoid running across the light rail tracks. So, the course managed to touch itself twice ( ) on the out and back. First we saw the leaders zipping past at one point (effing showoffs! ), then later saw more of the runners ahead of us. So of course I eventually looped around to these points, and then can't understand why all the people on the other side are walking! Certainly they shouldn't be walking so near the finish, right? Ok, whatever, and I continued on. I got to the other touch point (where we saw the leaders), and then it dawned on me. Those folks are the WALKERS, and they're a few miles BEHIND ME!! lol

I bought ChiRunning off of Ebay last week, and received it on Thursday. So I started reading it, getting about halfway through by Saturday. I even tried to apply some of the principles to my race, mainly the items about being aware of my body and staying relaxed. I know a race is not the time/place to try something new, so I knew I wasn't going to master it at that time, but it at least put the ideas in my head and gave me some mental exercises. I had to pull my shoulders out of my ears a time or two, etc. I look forward to putting it into practice.

All in all, a good race. I'm a little disappointed in not reaching my goal, but that's countered by still setting a PR. I'm a little achey today, my I-T is at me, but otherwise came out of it unscathed.

That being said, while Geb's 2:04:26 was impressive, I'm just wondering when we'll see the first person break 2 hours in the marathon.

Former record holder Khalid Khannouchi (he was part of a Q&A they had at the race expo) doesn't think it can be done. On the other hand, I fully intend to be the person to do it.

Amazing work this season, Senor Rocker! Congrats on the PR and congrats on wrapping up that RnR series so well.

So what's the grand-mac-daddy trophy you get for doing all of them?

 

[El Floppo]

Bentley, furley ...I'm fine with the 10Ks. That's a good goal to carry you through the winter. I spent a number of years focusing solely on 5Ks - there's a lot to be said for those moderate length races!

Party pooper! Honestly, I'm OK with the 10K, too, but I do think that he could be ready for a half marathon in May, and Green Bay is a great race. Starts and finishes at Lambeau, and you get to run a lap through the stadium and everything (as part of the race). Great food (and beer) and crowd support and everything. I just think it would make a great race for Furley's half marathon debut!

10ks are nice and all- but once you start adding the word "marathon" to things it adds a lot of fun/excitement to it, IMO. The training is great- and then you hurt your knee...

:finger: I survived a whole lot of years without a marathon, and had a lot of fun. If some of the guys want to target a 10K, given the alternative of NOT having a goal, then kudos to them. They can build up to the longer races if and when they choose.

I'm pretty sure I'm headed in the reverse direction. I keep wanting to train for marathons, but believe I may need to concentrate on shorter distances, and running for pleasure vs. trying to run for speed. Running and completing a 10k sounds much better right now than training for another marathon, only to injure myself once I near race day. Goal #1 (just finishing) hasn't been achieved enough lately as I've made it secondary. I hope to be able to firmly have Goal #1 at the center of all training (time will tell!).

 

[Darrinll40]

OK, here is the video just taken.

Hopefully the link will work.

I was running as fast as I could with very little warm up. It looks to me like I am still too upright. I just can't get the leaning part down.

ETA - Heading out for a ride with the wife. I will check back later.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

OK, here is the video just taken.

Hopefully the link will work.

I was running as fast as I could with very little warm up. It looks to me like I am still too upright. I just can't get the leaning part down.

ETA - Heading out for a ride with the wife. I will check back later.

:reported:

 

[RoarinSonoran]

So what's the grand-mac-daddy trophy you get for doing all of them?

See my sig. Click on "Rockstar" for a webpage about the whole shebang, or click on the last "medal earned" (that pic is pretty much life-size). If it wasn't so freakin' expensive, I'd get me one of these (I may just try to make my own ).

 

[El Floppo]

OK, here is the video just taken.

Hopefully the link will work.

I was running as fast as I could with very little warm up. It looks to me like I am still too upright. I just can't get the leaning part down.

ETA - Heading out for a ride with the wife. I will check back later.

:reported:

You're cruising there! Almost so fast it's hard to tell. IMO, tantric sex running style aside, your form looks really good. Only thing I can advise is to look down a liitle- kind of out in front of you 20-30 feet instead of looking straight out... supposed to ease strain on your neck and allows you to run without tripping on stuff. ;shrug: ... looks good to me otherwise.

 

[SteveUK]

Nice reports RS and DP. Congrats to both of you on your races. My half is just a month from tomorrow and I think I am ready for it. Saturday I did 11 miles in 1:48 and Sunday I ran 7 miles. Today I am biking with the wife, but I will be running Tuesday and Wednesday. My run Saturday made me think that I may be able to beat 2 hours in the half, but it is not something I am going to shoot for. If I can average 10 minute miles I will be thrilled.

Did they bring it forward or did I sleep for a month?