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RBs being scarfed up in drafts (1 Viewer)
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Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
this has Trent at 1.03, cobb at 3.01 and Sjax at 4.02 so I'm going to disregard it as there is no way to accurately reflects competitive league's ADP. There is no way Kaep is the 3rd QB off the board in the majority of leagues.
I agree with this and try to do the same thing. I like to do my best to lock down all but one starter at each position with elites or studs, this allows me to look for the value guy who slips through or is overlooked, sleeper that hits, etc. But yet the position isn't necessarily weak even of that doesn't pan out and I have a revolving door at that last spotLawFitz said:
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'' I've e typically waited for my QB til the mid rounds, and will likely go RB or WR in the 2nd round, but youve convinced me that Rodgers or Brees is a better 2nd round pick than Graham. ''
Same here
BTW: Referring to things as gay? What are you, 12?
Same here
I might Calvin at 5 also
You did say you would bet, did you not?
BTW: Referring to things as gay? What are you, 12?
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Dez
Footballguy
ADP is relative...In my 28 drafts so far his ADP is around 2.07 and has gone as high as 2.01 and never below a mid 3rd round pick like ever.
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
gandalas
Footballguy
Took Rodgers at 1.10 in the only 12-team redraft I have done so far this season, and really liking my RBs I got after the fact.
QB: Rodgers
RB: Marshawn Lynch (2.3)
RB: David Wilson (3.10)
WR: Jordy Nelson (4.3)
WR: Mike Wallace (5.10)
WR: Anquan Boldin (6.3)
TE: Antonio Gates (7.10)
RB: Shane Vereen (8.3)
League is a start 1 RB with 1 flex, so plenty fine with the options I have at the position. And my WRs aren't too shabby for waiting until the 4th either.
QB: Rodgers
RB: Marshawn Lynch (2.3)
RB: David Wilson (3.10)
WR: Jordy Nelson (4.3)
WR: Mike Wallace (5.10)
WR: Anquan Boldin (6.3)
TE: Antonio Gates (7.10)
RB: Shane Vereen (8.3)
League is a start 1 RB with 1 flex, so plenty fine with the options I have at the position. And my WRs aren't too shabby for waiting until the 4th either.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
gandalas
Footballguy
Not at all. PPR.
Draft is being held over in the FFA as we speak, with all FBG drafters:
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=685039
Ilov80s
Footballguy
LawFitz
Footballguy
You only have to start 1 RB in this league, hence the reason why they fell.
Starting requirements make a HUGE difference in relative value among positions. Think 1 QB vs 2 QB leagues (mandatory 2 QB leagues, not superflex).
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Your team doesn't scream PPR to me. Your best picks are backs, but the top one doesn't catch passes. The other two RBs will catch passes, will they get any GL carries? Tough to gauge either's 2013 performance since this is the first time they are going to get significant playing time. Your WRs arent big reception guys. I don't know what the TE situation looked like, but Gates in the 7th is your worst pick. Last year, Gates was 19th amongst TEs in receptions.
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gandalas
Footballguy
Gates finished as TE13 last year in that abortion of a season that San Diego had, All reports indicate that he is quicker than in years, and with the loss of Alexander, he will be leaned on just as much as ever. While he was not my first choice at the pick (Finley and the MIN TE went right before my pick), I think he will be just fine.
Lynch was top-5 in any system. He is just fine as well. Wilson I am extremely high on this year (took him in almost every league I am in). TE is definitely my weak point, but I will get a couple of guys in the next few rounds.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Honestly Im surprised you took Rodgers over Lynch
Run It Up
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Yeah, that calculation seems like it is only based on 4 drafts. I guess I don't know how to use it or something.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Run It Up
Footballguy
Was waiting for at least two people to chime in, I hate literally everything about this team - even the 8.3 for Vereen if you only start 1 RB which is like 2 rounds later than I see him going.
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
So I did a little experiment the last few hours. I did a few mock drafts on ESPN selecting late in the 1st round. One draft going RB/WR, one going RB/RB, and one going WR/WR. 12 teams, non-PPR, standard scoring. I tried to be as objective as possible and not really overdraft anyone. I also tried to draft different players (but similar tier wise) for each team to have as little bias as possible for others judging these teams, ie if I picked the same RB1 on every team but for whatever reason you are down on them, so that makes you lean toward the team where I didnt do RB/RB obviously. Sorry for you early QB/Graham people, but if I did that in any of these drafts that would considerably change how my team looked from the WR and RB position. I think it will be understood which strategy I used for each team, so which do you think is the strongest?...
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
. Also, either Im really high on Victor Cruz or many dont believe because he was there in the early 4th in all 3 of the drafts I went that far and seemed like an obvious pick to me.
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
. Also, either Im really high on Victor Cruz or many dont believe because he was there in the early 4th in all 3 of the drafts I went that far and seemed like an obvious pick to me.'he's never done it before' is an extremely lazy argument. Anyone alive in 2012 should have seen that the Romo to Dez connection clicked midseason. All offseason news has been nothing but pointing up. NFC East still has good offenses and awful secondaries. Dallas has the easiest pass defense strength of schedule in the league.
Ditto with Julio. Roddy and Gonzalez certainly aren't younger than last year, and all offseason news has been glowing about Julio. I don't love Atlanta's schedule, but I'm all aboard the Julio breakout wagon.
I think Julio has highest chance of falling outside of top 5, but barring serious injury, I'd be shock absolutely astounded if any of top 5 (D Thomas my 5th) fall outside WR1 (top 12)
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chickensoup
Footballguy
It'll be no surprise but I really favor teams 1 and 2. I could see all 3 winning, but 3 needs so much to fall right to have probably mid level RB2 production. Bush needs to get a decent workload and goal line carries, Mendenhall needs to play out of his mind on a bad team that has a decent QB and an outstanding WR. Matthews needs to stay healthy and not get murdered behind a horrific O-Line.1/2 are just more balanced. The risk is spread to the last spot of the position instead of just a single position. On team 1, Dispite going RB/RB you still got a great WR (though I wouldn't expect to get Andre at 3.10 often myself).So I did a little experiment the last few hours. I did a few mock drafts on ESPN selecting late in the 1st round. One draft going RB/WR, one going RB/RB, and one going WR/WR. 12 teams, non-PPR, standard scoring. I tried to be as objective as possible and not really overdraft anyone. I also tried to draft different players (but similar tier wise) for each team to have as little bias as possible for others judging these teams, ie if I picked the same RB1 on every team but for whatever reason you are down on them, so that makes you lean toward the team where I didnt do RB/RB obviously. Sorry for you early QB/Graham people, but if I did that in any of these drafts that would considerably change how my team looked from the WR and RB position. I think it will be understood which strategy I used for each team, so which do you think is the strongest?...
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
When I have a chance I'll try the same thing and post what I get as well.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
I'd like team 3 the best if you substituted an upside guy like Hillman for Ingram or Ballard. Not a huge fan of BPett either. But otherwise, I like how your WR/WR team turned out. Bush should be an adequate RB1 and between Matthews and Mendenhall you should be able to survive at RB2 until either your later RBs or one from the wire emerges to fill that slot.So I did a little experiment the last few hours. I did a few mock drafts on ESPN selecting late in the 1st round. One draft going RB/WR, one going RB/RB, and one going WR/WR. 12 teams, non-PPR, standard scoring. I tried to be as objective as possible and not really overdraft anyone. I also tried to draft different players (but similar tier wise) for each team to have as little bias as possible for others judging these teams, ie if I picked the same RB1 on every team but for whatever reason you are down on them, so that makes you lean toward the team where I didnt do RB/RB obviously. Sorry for you early QB/Graham people, but if I did that in any of these drafts that would considerably change how my team looked from the WR and RB position. I think it will be understood which strategy I used for each team, so which do you think is the strongest?...
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
Wait hold that thought, I just noticed this is for non-PPR. That might swing my opinion, but in PPR, I like team 3. And that's the MAJOR problem with this thread. We all play in different scoring systems and while an RB-RB strategy might work in 4 pt pass TD, non-PPR leagues, it doesn't work nearly as well in the leagues I play in (6 pt pass TD, 0.5 PPR, return yardage).
So after all of the circular rhetoric on this topic, I guess much of it comes down to scoring and starting lineup setups.
HairySasquatch
Footballguy
I like team 2, team 1, then team 3 in that order.
If you got different RB's for team three I would like it better (which rbs were available in rounds 3-5).
I have gone WR-WR for 4 out of the last 5 years. I have had better luck in picking up starting RB's with upside in rounds 3-5. Last year it was Richardson, Martin, and Morris....granted it was a fluke that this team came together so nicely...it doesn't always work out this way. I'm also in a league that over drafts at the QB position in the first three rounds....the top 6 QBs will be gone by the end of round 3, which helps RB talent to fall later in the draft.
I would be happy with either team 1 or team 2. If I can get Megatron, I will go WR-RB all day long. If not, I'm probably going to go RB-?.....depending on who is there. At WR, I would only consider Green or Dez for my second round pick....maybe Julio.
If you got different RB's for team three I would like it better (which rbs were available in rounds 3-5).
I have gone WR-WR for 4 out of the last 5 years. I have had better luck in picking up starting RB's with upside in rounds 3-5. Last year it was Richardson, Martin, and Morris....granted it was a fluke that this team came together so nicely...it doesn't always work out this way. I'm also in a league that over drafts at the QB position in the first three rounds....the top 6 QBs will be gone by the end of round 3, which helps RB talent to fall later in the draft.
I would be happy with either team 1 or team 2. If I can get Megatron, I will go WR-RB all day long. If not, I'm probably going to go RB-?.....depending on who is there. At WR, I would only consider Green or Dez for my second round pick....maybe Julio.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I'd rank as 2, 3, 1 in the order I'd like them.
I'd like 2 better with different late QBs. And I'd like 3 better with a different TE, waiting forever if I didn't get Graham or Witten so I could take a guy like Cameron and just live with it.
I'd like 2 better with different late QBs. And I'd like 3 better with a different TE, waiting forever if I didn't get Graham or Witten so I could take a guy like Cameron and just live with it.
I would rank these teams 1,2,3 in that order. I wouldn't say any of them is terrible. I prefer RB strength, and team 1 has four solid options while not giving up too much in other positions.So I did a little experiment the last few hours. I did a few mock drafts on ESPN selecting late in the 1st round. One draft going RB/WR, one going RB/RB, and one going WR/WR. 12 teams, non-PPR, standard scoring. I tried to be as objective as possible and not really overdraft anyone. I also tried to draft different players (but similar tier wise) for each team to have as little bias as possible for others judging these teams, ie if I picked the same RB1 on every team but for whatever reason you are down on them, so that makes you lean toward the team where I didnt do RB/RB obviously. Sorry for you early QB/Graham people, but if I did that in any of these drafts that would considerably change how my team looked from the WR and RB position. I think it will be understood which strategy I used for each team, so which do you think is the strongest?...
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
skinsrule05
Footballguy
I wouldn't worry about your TE nearly as much as your WRs. Hopefully like your RB you only start one WR so you can flex a RB. All 3 are weak in PPR. Now that Nelson is banged up I have him as a low end WR2. This is a good indication of what happens if you draft a QB early. Lucky for you in this league there is very small RB requirements so you should be okay there. If it was more of a standard roster league (2 RB, 2 WR & 1 flex) the team would be in big trouble plus you wouldn't have gotten those RBs that slid.
chickensoup
Footballguy
I think this is the big takeaway. He was able to get a stable (yet unspectacular and lower end) WR1 in the 3rd round dispite going RB/RB from the 10 position. Being able to handcuff a guy like Forte is a pretty big deal as well as Bush puts up low end RB1 numbers following a teams normal RB getting injured (or at least he has in the past)I would rank these teams 1,2,3 in that order. I wouldn't say any of them is terrible. I prefer RB strength, and team 1 has four solid options while not giving up too much in other positions.So I did a little experiment the last few hours. I did a few mock drafts on ESPN selecting late in the 1st round. One draft going RB/WR, one going RB/RB, and one going WR/WR. 12 teams, non-PPR, standard scoring. I tried to be as objective as possible and not really overdraft anyone. I also tried to draft different players (but similar tier wise) for each team to have as little bias as possible for others judging these teams, ie if I picked the same RB1 on every team but for whatever reason you are down on them, so that makes you lean toward the team where I didnt do RB/RB obviously. Sorry for you early QB/Graham people, but if I did that in any of these drafts that would considerably change how my team looked from the WR and RB position. I think it will be understood which strategy I used for each team, so which do you think is the strongest?...
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
Junior McSpiffy
Footballguy
Myself, I'd go team 2, team 3 and team 1. But I know a lot of that is flavor. I -really- don't like Forte or Andre, and I'm leery of Garcon's foot. If you made different choices on guys there, maybe I'd like it more, but there's not a lot of the RBs in round 2 that I find appealing. YMMV. But then I've stated that I am more about the upside than the floor. I can look at team 1 and appreciate the floor and think it would be a solid team, but I just see players on the other two teams who I think can put up game-changing numbers in any given week.I think this is the big takeaway. He was able to get a stable (yet unspectacular and lower end) WR1 in the 3rd round dispite going RB/RB from the 10 position. Being able to handcuff a guy like Forte is a pretty big deal as well as Bush puts up low end RB1 numbers following a teams normal RB getting injured (or at least he has in the past)I would rank these teams 1,2,3 in that order. I wouldn't say any of them is terrible. I prefer RB strength, and team 1 has four solid options while not giving up too much in other positions.So I did a little experiment the last few hours. I did a few mock drafts on ESPN selecting late in the 1st round. One draft going RB/WR, one going RB/RB, and one going WR/WR. 12 teams, non-PPR, standard scoring. I tried to be as objective as possible and not really overdraft anyone. I also tried to draft different players (but similar tier wise) for each team to have as little bias as possible for others judging these teams, ie if I picked the same RB1 on every team but for whatever reason you are down on them, so that makes you lean toward the team where I didnt do RB/RB obviously. Sorry for you early QB/Graham people, but if I did that in any of these drafts that would considerably change how my team looked from the WR and RB position. I think it will be understood which strategy I used for each team, so which do you think is the strongest?...
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
kutta
Footballguy
If I'm drafting at the 12 spot, I guess I'd rather be great at one or two positions, and hope to hit on the others throughout the draft, rather than be mediocre at all positions. Taking two RB's in rounds 1 and 2 guarantees you that you will have no top 5 guys at RB and WR, and no top 3 guys at QB and TE. I have an issue with that.
Runningman
Footballguy
Hmmm WR 4 to 20 are not very very close. Certainly not in PPR. In PPR, 1 point per 10 yards, 6 point TDs, WR4 Bryant outscored WR20 Steve Smith, by essentially 5 points per game. WR4 averaged 18.73 and WR 20 averaged 13.44. Same Scoring system, RB4 Ray rice averaged 17.69 per game. RB 20, Bradshaw averaged 12.79. Essentially 5 points per game. If you go back for a few years I think you will find a remarkably consistent spread like that.
The key to going WR WR is finding two RBs later in the draft that can play into the top 20. That core will put you in the top half of your league and in the playoffs.
Runningman
Footballguy
Agree with this mostly. Certainly the 10th overall RB has a shot at being top five, but I would rather have the second and third rated players at a position than the 10 and 11th. Better chance to get a special player and if they both hit as rated it will make up for a lot of Blemishes elsewhere. Certainly in scoring systems where the top ten at positions score very nearly the same amount of points on the season and per game.
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Junior McSpiffy
Footballguy
I'm hearing all this talk about positions being "deep"... and I'm hearing it about every position except RBs. WRs... deep. TEs... deep. QBs.... deep.
Can we call it what it is?
What we are saying is that there is a large pool of guys who are essentially just like other guys. They are interchangeable. Vincent Jackson is Roddy White is Andre Johnson is Victor Cruz is Dwayne Bowe. It just feels like people are saying "I will win my league by having my third, fourth and fifth round picks do nothing to distinguish me from the teams around me. I will win by being the same as everyone else. And to set me up for this strategy, I will be the same as everyone in my first two rounds."
It's true that David Wilson isn't LeSean McCoy, but Andre Johnson isn't AJ Green, Martellus Bennett isn't Vernon Davis and Colin Kaepernick isn't Drew Brees.
Can we call it what it is?
What we are saying is that there is a large pool of guys who are essentially just like other guys. They are interchangeable. Vincent Jackson is Roddy White is Andre Johnson is Victor Cruz is Dwayne Bowe. It just feels like people are saying "I will win my league by having my third, fourth and fifth round picks do nothing to distinguish me from the teams around me. I will win by being the same as everyone else. And to set me up for this strategy, I will be the same as everyone in my first two rounds."
It's true that David Wilson isn't LeSean McCoy, but Andre Johnson isn't AJ Green, Martellus Bennett isn't Vernon Davis and Colin Kaepernick isn't Drew Brees.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Only one of these guys has been a top 10 WR each of the last 5 years, without ever missing a single game, if I am not mistaken. (Roddy White)
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jbalicki10
Footballguy
Hey Guys, I am getting stuck with Rounds 2-3 on who to pick. I am drafting 5th in a 12 team, 6 pts for TDs (including Qbs) .5 PPR
First round is easy... pick a top 5 RB
Second round I sometimes see these players. How would you rank them?
Chris Johnson/R. Bush
Dez Bryant/Marshall
Brees/Rodgers
I think in the third round I should go opposite of what I choose in the second unless QB, then go best available RB (assuming Brees or Rodgers not available)
Thanks
First round is easy... pick a top 5 RB
Second round I sometimes see these players. How would you rank them?
Chris Johnson/R. Bush
Dez Bryant/Marshall
Brees/Rodgers
I think in the third round I should go opposite of what I choose in the second unless QB, then go best available RB (assuming Brees or Rodgers not available)
Thanks
Julio isn't in my top 5 because I think he's a lock to be top 5. He's in my top 5 because I think he's a lock to NOT drop off the top 10. And I do think age will finally start showing up on his competition, particularly SJax, who everyone forgets is 30.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Now that Ive given this a few days to hear others thoughts, Im not too surprised that everyone's favorite team is all over the place. It does seem like most of WR/WR guys felt that team is the strongest. While I wouldnt say its clearly the weakest, Im not happy with Reggie as my RB1 (and I like him this year), and I dont like depending on Mathews or Mendenhall surprising and being my RB2 either.So I did a little experiment the last few hours. I did a few mock drafts on ESPN selecting late in the 1st round. One draft going RB/WR, one going RB/RB, and one going WR/WR. 12 teams, non-PPR, standard scoring. I tried to be as objective as possible and not really overdraft anyone. I also tried to draft different players (but similar tier wise) for each team to have as little bias as possible for others judging these teams, ie if I picked the same RB1 on every team but for whatever reason you are down on them, so that makes you lean toward the team where I didnt do RB/RB obviously. Sorry for you early QB/Graham people, but if I did that in any of these drafts that would considerably change how my team looked from the WR and RB position. I think it will be understood which strategy I used for each team, so which do you think is the strongest?...
Team 1 (10 slot)
QB Romo, Dalton
RB Morris, Forte, Bell, Hillman, MBush
WR Andre, Cruz, Garcon, Stevie Johnson, Hopkins, VBrown
TE FDavis
Team 2 (10 slot)
QB Eli, Vick
RB SJax, DWilson, Bell, Ingram, Pierre
WR Mega, Cruz, Austin, Gordon, Blackmon, Randle
TE Witten
Team 3 (10 slot)
QB Luck
RB RBush, Mathews, Mendenhall, Ingram, Ballard, Pierre
WR Green, Dez, Cruz, Gordon, Floyd, Little
TE Pettigrew
Im not going to say how I feel about these teams yet, Id rather get feedback first, but I will say Calvin was there at #10 in 4 of the 5 drafts I did (had to scrap a couple because I coudnt reasonably pull off my first 2 round strategy for this if not) which surprised me
Id probably say 2 is my favorite, but sort of has an unfair advantage with Megatron and Witten. Im not planning on Megatron being available that late in my drafts if thats where I end up picking, but I'll take him if he's there. Witten slid until the late 5th in that draft so it was an easy choice. Funny how in just a couple years it feels like TE went from deep to only having 4 guys Id trust taking in the top 8 rounds. The other TE's I got are hardly ones I count on ending up being TE1's, so like I said Team 2 with a nice advantage there.
As Lawfitz said though, I think this really comes down scoring system. If youre in PPR, its hard to go RB/RB. If youre in 6pt passing TD leagues, hard to pass up the top QBs in the 2nd or 3rd round. Based on my mock drafts above and being in non-PPR money leagues, I have a feeling Im most likely to end up going RB/WR as I prefer the positional flexibility it gives me later in the draft for those positions and others, lets me take value when its there without feeling like Im leaving myself too weak at RB or WR, and doesnt "force" me into taking a RB or WR because I have left myself noticeably weak there and cant neglect it any longer.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
While I understand what youre saying, preseason rankings arent what the end of the season rankings end up being. The key to winning is picking the most guys who outproduce their draft position/projections. I understand the preseason rankings reflect the likelihood of players finishing that high, but drafting how you are describing guarantees you nothing.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I love Ridley this year, he just didnt make sense based on where I was picking (late 1st/early 2nd) in those mocks I did the other day. I hope he doesnt continue having games like yesterday though so people dont start to realize how nice his combination of value/high floor are for where he's going. The nice thing is I dont see his ADP rising much because 10 of the 13 RBs going ahead of him are considered 1st round picks, and Blount putting up statlines like he did will probably prevent Ridley from getting a lot of hype as well.
Again, this comes down to scoring systems though. Ridley has a much better shot at finishing mid-low RB1 in non-PPR than PPR. That said, if I played PPR Id be all over Ridley a round later.
