The Real Official wildcard game 2 *** Steeler Vs Bengals *** (1 Viewer)

[Franknbeans]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

 

[The General]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

You can tell the ref is getting in between Porter and the Bengals in that vid. You can see Porter is staying on the field after they are taking Brown off. What is he doing just before that, sharing recipes or training tips with the Bengals?

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

 

[The General]

So now allegedly. Burfict spit on DiCastro and was yelling he put Brown to sleep.

I believe 1 of them

There is video from the 12-13 game of DiCastro gouging the eyes of Gilberry in a pile. He is one of the biggest instigators out there. The league will have to step in to cool off this rivalry. Someone is going to get killed. Both teams are out of control.

Yup. If they put these guys on a Monday night game the place may get burned down.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Yep that was during the walk off. After Burfict get physical with med staff and Brown. Pushes thru Porter/staff to get to them.

 

[Chef Boyardee]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

But you have to understand, Jerry was saying some really mean things.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

You can tell the ref is getting in between Porter and the Bengals in that vid. You can see Porter is staying on the field after they are taking Brown off. What is he doing just before that, sharing recipes or training tips with the Bengals?

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

WRONG. Absolutely wrong.

He is walking away with the group, with NO SPACE between him and the doctor holding Browns left Arm. http://s21.postimg.org/xd1niv5hj/JP_2_44_04.png

Burfict then forces his way past Joey and into the doctor. Forcibly impeding the doctor who gets annoyed and throws Burfict hand away...

That hand hits Joey on the right side of his head. The doctor (med staff) says something to the ref.

Joey having been stopped, turns and calmly says something to the entire group.

All the while he is moving towards his sideline (never flat footed) until Gilberry hits him.

 

[Franknbeans]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

 

[Neofight]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

So for those of us who didn't hear it, what did he say?

He said that Porter was calling them #####es all game long and was out on the field no where near Brown talking to all the players. He said he thought Brown was faking and winked at him as he was taken off the field. The on Gio sent the game in the wrong direction and that the refs lost control. Thought the coach is absolutely coming back. Was not asked if he felt he lost control or what responsibility he takes. Was really interesting, could have been asked so much more.

So basically he's full of ####?

 

[Toomuchnv]

From Profootballtalk - video of burfict driving his knee into BenR shoulder on the sack.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/10/burfict-gave-ben-the-business-on-shoulder-injuring-sack/

Kids been like this since his days at ASU, at least. Probably started in the womb.

He had a bad reputation in high school as well...super talented, just doesn't seem to control his emotions.

 

[fred_1_15301]

So now allegedly. Burfict spit on DiCastro and was yelling he put Brown to sleep.

I believe 1 of them

There is video from the 12-13 game of DiCastro gouging the eyes of Gilberry in a pile. He is one of the biggest instigators out there. The league will have to step in to cool off this rivalry. Someone is going to get killed. Both teams are out of control.

This I agree with.

 

[The General]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

You can tell the ref is getting in between Porter and the Bengals in that vid. You can see Porter is staying on the field after they are taking Brown off. What is he doing just before that, sharing recipes or training tips with the Bengals?

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

WRONG. Absolutely wrong.

He is walking away with the group, with NO SPACE between him and the doctor holding Browns left Arm. http://s21.postimg.org/xd1niv5hj/JP_2_44_04.png

Burfict then forces his way past Joey and into the doctor. Forcibly impeding the doctor who gets annoyed and throws Burfict hand away...

That hand hits Joey on the right side of his head. The doctor (med staff) says something to the ref.

Joey having been stopped, turns and calmly says something to the entire group.

All the while he is moving towards his sideline (never flat footed) until Gilberry hits him.

Not going to defend Burfict and I see what you are saying.

Porter should not be out there regardless if he was being "calm" which seems improbable. Even if he was acting like Gandhi out there at that moment with his background and actions him being out there is a really bad idea and nothing good is coming out of it. Training staff and the head coach that's it.

I'm guessing the rules on who is out on the field will be further addressed and enforced moving forward.

If the game ball thing for Porter is true - which I have a hard time believing - that's the ultimate troll move of all time

Crazy, crazy game.

 

[Old Smiley]

Refs should give out way more ejections. We treat it like it's the most serious thing going. Screw it. Get 'em out of there. (not talking anything about fines here)

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

Steelers fan. I admit that I have no idea what Joey Porter did. I'm sure he was jawing, "talkin' ####", but I haven't heard/seen reports what exactly was said. We can confirm however that Pac Man is still an uncontrollable idiot.

Does it matter what he said? He instigated. That happens all the time, especially in rivalries. I don't see any problem with it, especially since the Cinci players came over to where he, Brown, and the rest of the Steelers were.

 

[lod01]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

 

[3C's]

Refs should give out way more ejections. We treat it like it's the most serious thing going. Screw it. Get 'em out of there. (not talking anything about fines here)

That's the only way this crap stops.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

 

[The General]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

 

[zftcg]

With everyone throwing blame on Burfict, Jones, Hill and the refs, let's not ignore the absolutely horrible play call by Hue Jackson on the two-point try. What the hell was that play supposed to accomplish? When it happened, I immediately thought of last year's NFC Championship Game. Seattle clawed all the way back to take the lead and go up one, then Wilson threw that lollipop to Willson, which seemed important at the time, but became crucial when GB drove down and kicked a FG to tie at the end of regulation.

A better play call could have meant Steelers were playing to tie at the end. And if that game goes to OT with an injured Ben and no Brown, you have to like the Bengals odds.

I could be wrong, but it seemed AJ Green was unaware of the situation and obviously should have been on the field for the attempt. He headed to the sidelines when he more than likely should have stayed on the field. Maybe this led to scrambling at the last second and changing the play call?

Again, I may be way off on this, just seemed odd that he headed to the sidelines when his team was going for 2.

Yeah, that play looked so bad I'm certainly willing to accept that it was a miscommunication rather than a bad call. Anyone broken down the video to figure out what was going on, or heard any follow-up in the press? I just remember watching it live and thinking "What the hell was THAT?"

 

[rick6668]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

You can see it best in the full game video, at 2h42m28s

https://youtu.be/Bq17-qlHkkY?t=2h42m28s

The reason Porter is behind the group is he almost gets hit in the face and then is bumped from behind purposely.

Bengals just lose their collective minds.

 

[Steelers4Life]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

 

[The General]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

I'm saying in general and not specifically to this game, although a 50 yarder in that situation is going to be something.

You can't make rules to take out every stupid or heated reaction but you can eliminate things like Joey Porter being out on the field for no reason.

 

[Politician Spock]

The refs were doing the right thing by NOT flagging Porter for staying out there while Brown was leaving nor for anything he was saying to the Bengals to offend them. Can you imagine the outrage if the refs flag Porter for 15 years moving the Steelers out of field goal range? You don't flag that when it significantly would affect the game.

However, when the Bengals responded to Porter with their own foul, the refs should no longer continue to ignore Porter's foul. Calling a foul on the Bengals while ignoring Porters foul is just as wrong as calling a foul on Porter prior to the Bengals foul. It should have been offsetting penalties. For the refs to have called it one way or the other, moving the ball 15 yards one way or the other, were both wrong ways to handle it. It's one of the many things the refs screwed up in this game.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

I'm saying in general and not specifically to this game, although a 50 yarder in that situation is going to be something.

You can't make rules to take out every stupid or heated reaction but you can eliminate things like Joey Porter being out on the field for no reason.

He is the perfect guy for us to have out there. He understands the situation perfectly and can play sheepdog to the other staff mates. Also mighty help with moving bigger players.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

Yes, it's a travesty when coaches are out on the field during a player injury. Porter should have gotten a flag!!

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The refs were doing the right thing by NOT flagging Porter for staying out there while Brown was leaving nor for anything he was saying to the Bengals to offend them. Can you imagine the outrage if the refs flag Porter for 15 years moving the Steelers out of field goal range? You don't flag that when it significantly would affect the game.

However, when the Bengals responded to Porter with their own foul, the refs should no longer continue to ignore Porter's foul. Calling a foul on the Bengals while ignoring Porters foul is just as wrong as calling a foul on Porter prior to the Bengals foul. It should have been offsetting penalties. For the refs to have called it one way or the other, moving the ball 15 yards one way or the other, were both wrong ways to handle it. It's one of the many things the refs screwed up in this game.

Pacman hit an opponent with his fist. Right in front of the refs. That was the difference. Same as when Munchak got a penalty.

 

[Steelers4Life]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

I'm saying in general and not specifically to this game, although a 50 yarder in that situation is going to be something.

You can't make rules to take out every stupid or heated reaction but you can eliminate things like Joey Porter being out on the field for no reason.

MANY players and coaches come out onto the field whenever there's a serious injury. If you want to say he shouldn't have been, that's fine. The Bengals could've been penalized for that earlier in the game but they weren't either.

Again... if you haven't watched the game film on youtube, it's all there...

Porter was kneeling next to Brown when he got to his feet.

Porter was walking next to the trainer as they started walking off the field.

Burfict tried to check on Brown by cutting in front of Porter, separating Porter from the group. I don't think Burfict did that intentionally.

Now several steps behind Brown and the trainers, Porter walked past several Bengals - you can guarantee there was some trash talking between them.

As Porter was still backing away towards the Steelers sideline (still running his mouth, just like the Bengals), Gilbert intentionally bumped him from behind.

The Bengals players surrounded Porter and the ref was trying to separate them

No flags yet, nothing crazy. Just more trash talking.

Pac Man decided to join in the fun by going through the ref to hit Porter. Flag.

 

[Steeler]

The refs were doing the right thing by NOT flagging Porter for staying out there while Brown was leaving nor for anything he was saying to the Bengals to offend them. Can you imagine the outrage if the refs flag Porter for 15 years moving the Steelers out of field goal range? You don't flag that when it significantly would affect the game.

However, when the Bengals responded to Porter with their own foul, the refs should no longer continue to ignore Porter's foul. Calling a foul on the Bengals while ignoring Porters foul is just as wrong as calling a foul on Porter prior to the Bengals foul. It should have been offsetting penalties. For the refs to have called it one way or the other, moving the ball 15 yards one way or the other, were both wrong ways to handle it. It's one of the many things the refs screwed up in this game.

Porter did not bump the official and Pac Man did - that is why one got a flag and one did not.

 

[The General]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

I'm saying in general and not specifically to this game, although a 50 yarder in that situation is going to be something.

You can't make rules to take out every stupid or heated reaction but you can eliminate things like Joey Porter being out on the field for no reason.

He is the perfect guy for us to have out there. He understands the situation perfectly and can play sheepdog to the other staff mates. Also mighty help with moving bigger players.

Yeah.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

great post

Also, Regardless of what Porter was doing, it is up to the players to keep their cool and lets the refs handle the situation.

 

[The General]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

Yes, it's a travesty when coaches are out on the field during a player injury. Porter should have gotten a flag!!

Bengals lost their minds, lost the game.

Porter is a jackass though. You love the guy when he is on your team I get that. All teams have that guy or many guys.

Game was out of control, refs lost it. They are put in a bad situation as well if they start tossing guys on rules that aren't cut and dry they are going to get killed. The league loves making rules and this game's ending will be looked at and new rules will be made and existing ones will be enforced next season because of it.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

I'm saying in general and not specifically to this game, although a 50 yarder in that situation is going to be something.

You can't make rules to take out every stupid or heated reaction but you can eliminate things like Joey Porter being out on the field for no reason.

MANY players and coaches come out onto the field whenever there's a serious injury. If you want to say he shouldn't have been, that's fine. The Bengals could've been penalized for that earlier in the game but they weren't either.

Again... if you haven't watched the game film on youtube, it's all there...

Porter was kneeling next to Brown when he got to his feet.

Porter was walking next to the trainer as they started walking off the field.

Burfict tried to check on Brown by cutting in front of Porter, separating Porter from the group. I don't think Burfict did that intentionally.

Now several steps behind Brown and the trainers, Porter walked past several Bengals - you can guarantee there was some trash talking between them.

As Porter was still backing away towards the Steelers sideline (still running his mouth, just like the Bengals), Gilbert intentionally bumped him from behind.

The Bengals players surrounded Porter and the ref was trying to separate them

No flags yet, nothing crazy. Just more trash talking.

Pac Man decided to join in the fun by going through the ref to hit Porter. Flag.

It's called "Professional" Football, why is Porter on the field running his mouth to guys who are actually playing in the game? Is this the WWF now? It's ridiculous and Porter doesn't belong on an NFL sideline.

 

[menobrown]

Seriously can 1 Steeler's fan admit Porter may have done something wrong? Jeez you guys are a sensitive bunch defending him like he's a saint.

He may have.

Nothing shows anything demonstrative though.

No it does not and sorry but Adam Jones is not a credible witness.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

 

[Steelers4Life]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

I'm saying in general and not specifically to this game, although a 50 yarder in that situation is going to be something.

You can't make rules to take out every stupid or heated reaction but you can eliminate things like Joey Porter being out on the field for no reason.

MANY players and coaches come out onto the field whenever there's a serious injury. If you want to say he shouldn't have been, that's fine. The Bengals could've been penalized for that earlier in the game but they weren't either.

Again... if you haven't watched the game film on youtube, it's all there...

Porter was kneeling next to Brown when he got to his feet.

Porter was walking next to the trainer as they started walking off the field.

Burfict tried to check on Brown by cutting in front of Porter, separating Porter from the group. I don't think Burfict did that intentionally.

Now several steps behind Brown and the trainers, Porter walked past several Bengals - you can guarantee there was some trash talking between them.

As Porter was still backing away towards the Steelers sideline (still running his mouth, just like the Bengals), Gilbert intentionally bumped him from behind.

The Bengals players surrounded Porter and the ref was trying to separate them

No flags yet, nothing crazy. Just more trash talking.

Pac Man decided to join in the fun by going through the ref to hit Porter. Flag.

It's called "Professional" Football, why is Porter on the field running his mouth to guys who are actually playing in the game? Is this the WWF now? It's ridiculous and Porter doesn't belong on an NFL sideline.

Watch the video. He never left Brown's side until Burfict separated him from them

He wasn't talking to or even acknowledging the Bengals players until he get separated from Brown and the trainers by Burfict. And you have no idea who said something first... I can assume Joey would have plenty to say, but you know the Bengals did too. Again, they were just words until Pac Man got there and not a flag was thrown.

If Porter had just gone out there during a random timeout, that'd be different.

Now, if you want to get rid of anyone on the sidelines who talks trash, well, whatever.

 

[The General]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

it did have a trainwreck / car crash factor.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

Did you watch the game? He was absolutely near brown... then as brown is being led off the field he joey gets bumped from behind by gillberry and then surrounded by other Bengals players

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

It contributed to it, but it didn't come down to it.

The Steelers were already in range for a 50 yarder to win it because of Burfict's head hunting, and it had stopped raining. They also had about 20 seconds to complete another short pass and spike the ball (or get out of bounds) to make it an even more manageable distance.

It allowed the Steelers to kick on the next play, but it still had at least a decent chance of ending that way anyways. People don't remember that either... a lot is getting lost in the Burfict/Pac Man discussions.

I'm saying in general and not specifically to this game, although a 50 yarder in that situation is going to be something.

You can't make rules to take out every stupid or heated reaction but you can eliminate things like Joey Porter being out on the field for no reason.

MANY players and coaches come out onto the field whenever there's a serious injury. If you want to say he shouldn't have been, that's fine. The Bengals could've been penalized for that earlier in the game but they weren't either.

Again... if you haven't watched the game film on youtube, it's all there...

Porter was kneeling next to Brown when he got to his feet.

Porter was walking next to the trainer as they started walking off the field.

Burfict tried to check on Brown by cutting in front of Porter, separating Porter from the group. I don't think Burfict did that intentionally.

Now several steps behind Brown and the trainers, Porter walked past several Bengals - you can guarantee there was some trash talking between them.

As Porter was still backing away towards the Steelers sideline (still running his mouth, just like the Bengals), Gilbert intentionally bumped him from behind.

The Bengals players surrounded Porter and the ref was trying to separate them

No flags yet, nothing crazy. Just more trash talking.

Pac Man decided to join in the fun by going through the ref to hit Porter. Flag.

It's called "Professional" Football, why is Porter on the field running his mouth to guys who are actually playing in the game? Is this the WWF now? It's ridiculous and Porter doesn't belong on an NFL sideline.

Watch the video. He never left Brown's side until Burfict separated him from them

He wasn't talking to or even acknowledging the Bengals players until he get separated from Brown and the trainers by Burfict. And you have no idea who said something first... I can assume Joey would have plenty to say, but you know the Bengals did too. Again, they were just words until Pac Man got there and not a flag was thrown.

If Porter had just gone out there during a random timeout, that'd be different.

Now, if you want to get rid of anyone on the sidelines who talks trash, well, whatever.

Wow, you guys are really delusional.

 

[belljr]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

You can see it best in the full game video, at 2h42m28s

https://youtu.be/Bq17-qlHkkY?t=2h42m28s

The reason Porter is behind the group is he almost gets hit in the face and then is bumped from behind purposely.

Bengals just lose their collective minds.

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

Yes, it's a travesty when coaches are out on the field during a player injury. Porter should have gotten a flag!!

Both awesome

 

[The General]

Watch the video. He never left Brown's side until Burfict separated him from them

He wasn't talking to or even acknowledging the Bengals players until he get separated from Brown and the trainers by Burfict. And you have no idea who said something first... I can assume Joey would have plenty to say, but you know the Bengals did too. Again, they were just words until Pac Man got there and not a flag was thrown.

If Porter had just gone out there during a random timeout, that'd be different.

Now, if you want to get rid of anyone on the sidelines who talks trash, well, whatever.

It can't be Porter deciding in that moment now it's all business and we are cool. 5 minutes earlier he was talking crazy all kinds of crazy ####. He shouldn't have been out and the NFL's fault right now for not having rules more defined.

I'm sure they will be moving forward, if not they are just inviting this crap.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

As a matter of fact, here is a shot of Porter after that when he's talking to the ref as they're leading Brown off the field. Notice Dingleberry going up to Porter an bumping him in the back.

Bungles going to Bungle.

Porter is not any better than the ####### Bengal players, he's not even playing in the game. Get the hell off the field.

Au contraire, he kept his composure

Exactly. Porter, while not out there simply to instigate an additional 15 yard penalty, by keeping his composer, he assisted in the easy FG because a moron (Jones) on the opposing team stepped his game up. His game being stupidity that is. He got owned by the Steelers. He doesn't even realize yet how they used his ignorance against him & took him to school. Teams should have a coach that teaches how to get under the other team's skin to get penalties. You can capitalize on morons like Jones and Burfict.

Who wants to watch games come down to stuff like this?

it did have a trainwreck / car crash factor.

As long as my team isn't one of the two involved, I am all for these sorts of games.

 

[Buzzbait]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

You can see it best in the full game video, at 2h42m28s

https://youtu.be/Bq17-qlHkkY?t=2h42m28s

The reason Porter is behind the group is he almost gets hit in the face and then is bumped from behind purposely.

Bengals just lose their collective minds.

He's ALREADY in the circle. I swear you Porter apologists are just making up stuff now and thinking "wonder if this will fly." Just stop already.

Bottom line, if Porter did nothing wrong why is he getting fined?

 

[Franknbeans]

More classiness

 

[apalmer]

This is the state of football today.

A multipage cluster#### between guys who have watched football their entire lives and they can't even come to an agreement about what constitutes a legal tackle in a sport that is often referred to as "tackle football".

Two major plays and there is this much ambiguity.

It just occurred to me that I really have no idea how to explain the rules of this game to somebody who isn't familiar with it.

This

Not really.There is zero ambiguity...both the Shazier hit and Burfict hits were illegal...and both should have been flagged. Both will be fined.

Refs miss calls in full speed real time

I've seen numerous plays they have gotten wrong even after watching replays because the rules are so confusing.And this thread is proof that fans are confused about the rules.

But I will put you down as a vote for the "Rules of the NFL are clearer and easier to understand".

When it comes to illegal hits. Yes, both being discussed are clearly defined.

And yet sports talk all across the country is littered with fans arguing over whether are not both were legal, both were illegal or one wasn't and the other was.It is clearly defined that Porter should have been flagged based on the rules...but he wasn't.

I'm having a,hard time understanding why you are saying there is no confusion about these things when there are literally pages of members here unable to reach a consensus.

We haven't even gotten into the bs of what does and does not constitute a catch.

And Burfict and half the Bengals' defense weren't flagged when they all ran onto the field to threaten Shazier when he was walking back toward the line of scrimmage after returning the fumble for a TD. Play is whistled dead, ruling is that there is no fumble and the ball is still Cincy's, so what are Burfict and his gang doing on the field? The difference is that Shazier didn't take a swing at them. With all the serious infractions they were trying to stop, a coach walking onto the field when one of his players is lying there unconscious is the least of the officials' worries.

You do realize the Steelers were dancing after the Bernard injury which set off the crowd and Bengsls?

You mean they were imitating the way Burfict danced over Bell after he tore up his knee? Yeah.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Watch the video. He never left Brown's side until Burfict separated him from them

He wasn't talking to or even acknowledging the Bengals players until he get separated from Brown and the trainers by Burfict. And you have no idea who said something first... I can assume Joey would have plenty to say, but you know the Bengals did too. Again, they were just words until Pac Man got there and not a flag was thrown.

If Porter had just gone out there during a random timeout, that'd be different.

Now, if you want to get rid of anyone on the sidelines who talks trash, well, whatever.

It can't be Porter deciding in that moment now it's all business and we are cool. 5 minutes earlier he was talking crazy all kinds of crazy ####. He shouldn't have been out and the NFL's fault right now for not having rules more defined.

I'm sure they will be moving forward, if not they are just inviting this crap.

I don't disagree. I'm sure there will be changes and enforcement of rules regarding the presence of coaches on the field. Porter's instigator - was a great one as a player. His presence out there I'm sure ruffled the feathers of the Bengals. But as long as he's out there with the blessing of the referees - which again happens all the time - it's up to the players to not act stupid.

Pereira was just on The Herd and said there were about 13 different coaches on the field at that moment, from both teams. He also said that Pac Man wasn't penalized for contact with Porter. He was penalized for "substantial" contact with the back judge. How stupid do you have to be to try and go through a guy in stripes to attack anyone?

 

[Buzzbait]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

You can see it best in the full game video, at 2h42m28s

https://youtu.be/Bq17-qlHkkY?t=2h42m28s

The reason Porter is behind the group is he almost gets hit in the face and then is bumped from behind purposely.

Bengals just lose their collective minds.

Pac Man was just in the Dan Patrick show. Great interview with him talking about what happened.

Joey Porter absolutely should have gotten a penalty.

What for?

He was out on the field no where near Antonio Brown.

Yes, it's a travesty when coaches are out on the field during a player injury. Porter should have gotten a flag!!

Both awesome

For the eight billionth time, the issue isn't really Porter being on the field (while I do question that as well it's really moot to the point). The issue, and why he WILL be fined, are for his actions while on the field. None of the other people on the field will be fined because they did not instigate and provoke.

 

[rick6668]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

You can see it best in the full game video, at 2h42m28s

https://youtu.be/Bq17-qlHkkY?t=2h42m28s

The reason Porter is behind the group is he almost gets hit in the face and then is bumped from behind purposely.

Bengals just lose their collective minds.

He's ALREADY in the circle. I swear you Porter apologists are just making up stuff now and thinking "wonder if this will fly." Just stop already.

Bottom line, if Porter did nothing wrong why is he getting fined?

You couldn't have watched that video. Either that or you are using the WebbIE browser.

 

[menobrown]

Watch the video. He never left Brown's side until Burfict separated him from them

He wasn't talking to or even acknowledging the Bengals players until he get separated from Brown and the trainers by Burfict. And you have no idea who said something first... I can assume Joey would have plenty to say, but you know the Bengals did too. Again, they were just words until Pac Man got there and not a flag was thrown.

If Porter had just gone out there during a random timeout, that'd be different.

Now, if you want to get rid of anyone on the sidelines who talks trash, well, whatever.

It can't be Porter deciding in that moment now it's all business and we are cool. 5 minutes earlier he was talking crazy all kinds of crazy ####. He shouldn't have been out and the NFL's fault right now for not having rules more defined.

I'm sure they will be moving forward, if not they are just inviting this crap.

Other than Adam Jones telling you this how do you know? I've got the game still on my TV, let me know where in the game you see this so I can go look it up.

And it's really all besides the points. The refs were not trying to call a penalty after the Burfict cheap shot and unlike these phantom Porter allegations you can actually see where they let some stuff go on the Bengals, Such as not penalizing Gilberry or Burfict for putting their hands on Porter, not penalizing Bengals players for surrounding a coach and not penalizing Burfict for possibly talking smack to Brown after he cheap shot him.

Delusional fans saying the game was out of the control, it was not. The Bengals players were out of control at the end. It was a chippy game the whole day, the Burfict cheap shot took it to a new level and things got testy and the refs did all they could to restore order and NOT call another penalty but when a player does what Jones did they are getting flagged 99% of the time in every NFL game.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

You can see it best in the full game video, at 2h42m28s

https://youtu.be/Bq17-qlHkkY?t=2h42m28s

The reason Porter is behind the group is he almost gets hit in the face and then is bumped from behind purposely.

Bengals just lose their collective minds.

He's ALREADY in the circle. I swear you Porter apologists are just making up stuff now and thinking "wonder if this will fly." Just stop already.

Bottom line, if Porter did nothing wrong why is he getting fined?

NO HE'S NOT.

Watch the video.

The trainers and Brown had to walk past a group of Bengals to get back to their sideline. Porter was right with them and had never left Brown's side until Burfict cut him off to pat Brown's shoulder as they walked by. At that moment, Porter was separated from the Steelers and surrounded by 5 or 6 Bengals.

He's not sure to get fined. Pereira just said they need to review tapes to see if he initiated things with the players, because he was granted permission by the refs to be out there.

 

[Buzzbait]

Porter was out on the field with the full knowledge of the refs. Should he have been? Maybe not, but when there's a serious injury there are almost ALWAYS additional coaches and players out there.

You can guarantee that Porter was running his mouth. He always was as a player, and he always is as a coach too I'm sure. He's a trash TALKER. They're only words, just like the words the Bengals players had for him as they were walking back across the field. Sorry if Pac Man had his feelings hurt.

There's just a misconception that Porter initiated all of it. He was next to Brown as they got him up. He was walking next to the trainer as they were walking Brown off the field. And I fully believe Porter was talking trash the whole game from the sidelines, so some Bengals took the opportunity to talk back to him while he was out there.

The only person who was penalized is the one who made it a physical altercation instead of a verbal one. The refs had already set the precedent that they'd allow the trash talking when they didn't penalize the Bengals when half of their sideline came onto the field after Shazier hit Bernard.

If Porter was out there trying to provoke someone stupid into doing something stupid, well, it worked.

You can see it best in the full game video, at 2h42m28s

https://youtu.be/Bq17-qlHkkY?t=2h42m28s

The reason Porter is behind the group is he almost gets hit in the face and then is bumped from behind purposely.

Bengals just lose their collective minds.

He's ALREADY in the circle. I swear you Porter apologists are just making up stuff now and thinking "wonder if this will fly." Just stop already.

Bottom line, if Porter did nothing wrong why is he getting fined?

NO HE'S NOT.

Watch the video.

The trainers and Brown had to walk past a group of Bengals to get back to their sideline. Porter was right with them and had never left Brown's side until Burfict cut him off to pat Brown's shoulder as they walked by. At that moment, Porter was separated from the Steelers and surrounded by 5 or 6 Bengals.

He's not sure to get fined. Pereira just said they need to review tapes to see if he initiated things with the players, because he was granted permission by the refs to be out there.

Yes, he is. At 2:42:36 he's in the middle of Rey, Burfict, Johnson, Dunlap & Atkins.

Look, I'm done with this. This is getting beyond stupid. We'll see what the excuses are after the fines are handed down.

 

[The General]

Watch the video. He never left Brown's side until Burfict separated him from them

He wasn't talking to or even acknowledging the Bengals players until he get separated from Brown and the trainers by Burfict. And you have no idea who said something first... I can assume Joey would have plenty to say, but you know the Bengals did too. Again, they were just words until Pac Man got there and not a flag was thrown.

If Porter had just gone out there during a random timeout, that'd be different.

Now, if you want to get rid of anyone on the sidelines who talks trash, well, whatever.

It can't be Porter deciding in that moment now it's all business and we are cool. 5 minutes earlier he was talking crazy all kinds of crazy ####. He shouldn't have been out and the NFL's fault right now for not having rules more defined.

I'm sure they will be moving forward, if not they are just inviting this crap.

I don't disagree. I'm sure there will be changes and enforcement of rules regarding the presence of coaches on the field. Porter's instigator - was a great one as a player. His presence out there I'm sure ruffled the feathers of the Bengals. But as long as he's out there with the blessing of the referees - which again happens all the time - it's up to the players to not act stupid.

Pereira was just on The Herd and said there were about 13 different coaches on the field at that moment, from both teams. He also said that Pac Man wasn't penalized for contact with Porter. He was penalized for "substantial" contact with the back judge. How stupid do you have to be to try and go through a guy in stripes to attack anyone?

Agree with all this.

Players should have rules in place to avoid this stuff from happening - stay off the field if you aren't needed - but you can't make rules to cure everything. Bengals lost their ####. Burfict acts like a maniac. They are accountable.

I'm guessing some type of NBA type rule will be applied. Probably not as extreme but it will be more defined and penalties will be laid out clearly.