VikingFrog
Footballguy
I just traded for him to be my RB3. I'm all aboard the Stacy train. Choo Choo.
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Zac Stacy Hype Train - Rams (1 Viewer)
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VikingFrog
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Chaka
Footballguy
If Stacy plays the rest of this season like any of those guys did in their breakout years then I'm just fine with him.Tanner9919 said:good posting. see Chris Ivory, Shonn Greene, CJ Spiller, D. Murray, P. Hillis, R. Mathews, D. McFadden, D. Williams, Mark Ingram, etc...Stacy looks great but lets see him keep it up ...As a Stacy owner I'm cautiously optimistic.basically a lot of RB's have put together stretches where they looked great only to fizzle out when relied upon for a whole season.
let's see him finish out the season before getting too excited.
And when did Mark Ingram or Chris Ivory have a long stretch of doing anything special?
turkishkamel
Footballguy
I tried to sell him to the Rice owner after the CAR game and got shot down. I turned down Rice and Fitzgerald yesterday.
That isn't a very good list. Most of the disappointment for those guys has been health related rather than them having a nice stretch run and then turning out to be scrubs. Even so, some of them had red flags that Stacy doesn't. Going through that list:Tanner9919 said:good posting. see Chris Ivory, Shonn Greene, CJ Spiller, D. Murray, P. Hillis, R. Mathews, D. McFadden, D. Williams, Mark Ingram, etc...Stacy looks great but lets see him keep it up ...As a Stacy owner I'm cautiously optimistic.basically a lot of RB's have put together stretches where they looked great only to fizzle out when relied upon for a whole season.
let's see him finish out the season before getting too excited.
Ivory - had the advantage of being on a top offense that was pass first; still actually looks moderately talented when healthy; 2 down back
Greene - everybody looked good behind that line; his stretch run was only a few games at the end of the season; 2 down back
Spiller - pretty clearly still a talented player plagued by angle injuries this season
Murray - caught a couple bad defenses offguard his rookie year - the StL game propped up his stats; has looked mediocre since despite playing in a top offense
Hillis - I'll never understand that decline - his sample was a whole season with no passing game; next year injured for CLE, next year injured on KC, next year FA
Mathews - pretty clearly still a talented player plagued by coaching staffs that like backup caliber backs
DMC - obviously talented and injury prone
DeAngelo - talent always there, just not touches
Ingram - never had a stretch run; weird inclusion
The only guy on your list that wasn't injured after his breakout year was Greene (although I also consider Murray a semi-bust). He fumbled week 1 and LT took over. So if you want to caution that Stacy is an injury risk, then sure, that's a good list. If you want to list a few guys that had a nice stretch run and then fizzled the next year, the only guys I can think of off the top of my head are:
William Green
Jerome Harrison
LeShoure (I expected it, but some thought he'd be the starter this year, instead he's 3rd string)
Steve Slaton
Julius Jones
I'd say Julius Jones would be the strongest cautionary tale on the list. His second season was ok due to volume of touches, but he was clearly not the player everyone expected. Slaton had a ton of huge gains in his rookie year to offset what would've been a bunch of 3.0 ypc performances. He's a good reason to actually consider removing the long run when looking at stats.
teampunjabi
Footballguy
Would you guys do Lesean and Shorts for Megatron + Stacy?
1st: Sirius XM has a channel for this.
2nd: Huh?
Meanwhile, from http://ramblinfan.com/2013/11/05/zac-stacy-making-strong-case-offensive-rookie-year/:
Despite essentially missing four weeks of the season waiting for the Rams’ coaching staff to give him a chance, here is where Zac Stacy ranks among the top running backs in the league:
Zac Stacy, Nearest Rookie
Rushing Attempts 21st, 8th (Lacy)
Rushing Yards 15th, 8th (Lacy)
Yards Per Rush (75 min.), 5th T-10th (Bernard)
Yards After Contact 10th, 5th (Lacy)
Average YAC (75 min.) 3rd, 4th (Bernard)
Forced Missed Tackles T-7th, 5th (Lacy)
“Run” Grade (via PPF) T-5th, T-5th (Lacy)
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But why should we care? Not every back is going to be a perennial Top 10 guy, but you have to hold on to the *rare* ones that look like they have a chance to do it. Remember John Stephens and Ickey Woods? Could Stacy be in their group and do a disappearing act b/c of injury ot lack of production or whatever? Of course!That isn't a very good list. Most of the disappointment for those guys has been health related rather than them having a nice stretch run and then turning out to be scrubs. Even so, some of them had red flags that Stacy doesn't. Going through that list:Tanner9919 said:good posting. see Chris Ivory, Shonn Greene, CJ Spiller, D. Murray, P. Hillis, R. Mathews, D. McFadden, D. Williams, Mark Ingram, etc...Stacy looks great but lets see him keep it up ...As a Stacy owner I'm cautiously optimistic.basically a lot of RB's have put together stretches where they looked great only to fizzle out when relied upon for a whole season.
let's see him finish out the season before getting too excited.
Ivory - had the advantage of being on a top offense that was pass first; still actually looks moderately talented when healthy; 2 down back
Greene - everybody looked good behind that line; his stretch run was only a few games at the end of the season; 2 down back
Spiller - pretty clearly still a talented player plagued by angle injuries this season
Murray - caught a couple bad defenses offguard his rookie year - the StL game propped up his stats; has looked mediocre since despite playing in a top offense
Hillis - I'll never understand that decline - his sample was a whole season with no passing game; next year injured for CLE, next year injured on KC, next year FA
Mathews - pretty clearly still a talented player plagued by coaching staffs that like backup caliber backs
DMC - obviously talented and injury prone
DeAngelo - talent always there, just not touches
Ingram - never had a stretch run; weird inclusion
The only guy on your list that wasn't injured after his breakout year was Greene (although I also consider Murray a semi-bust). He fumbled week 1 and LT took over. So if you want to caution that Stacy is an injury risk, then sure, that's a good list. If you want to list a few guys that had a nice stretch run and then fizzled the next year, the only guys I can think of off the top of my head are:
William Green
Jerome Harrison
LeShoure (I expected it, but some thought he'd be the starter this year, instead he's 3rd string)
Steve Slaton
Julius Jones
I'd say Julius Jones would be the strongest cautionary tale on the list. His second season was ok due to volume of touches, but he was clearly not the player everyone expected. Slaton had a ton of huge gains in his rookie year to offset what would've been a bunch of 3.0 ypc performances. He's a good reason to actually consider removing the long run when looking at stats.
But he is one of the few that looks like he has the chance to ride a multi-year-top-10 wave due to the fact that:
(1) he's a rookie and contract isnt an issue. Worst case is a hold out at some point,
(2) his coach has already made the statement fantasy owners dream of: "he's a 3-down back",
(2) his coach's job stability his relatively high
(3) he seems to have clear sailing in terms of the competitors at his position
So, unless someone is willing to pay dearly for him in a trade, you have no choice but to ride that wave in dynasty and see where it takes you b/c a 3-down RB has become a rare gem.
Maybe the tone of my reply got diluted. I agree with you. I was saying there are very few situations like Stacy's where a healthy player did not pan out. Tanner's list was all a bunch of guys that got injured the next year. So far Stacy has hit everything that he can on my checklist:
-produced as a primary back (rather than scatback, 3rd down back, 2 minute drill back)
-produced better than his RB teammates
-produced against legitimate defenses
-produced without the benefit of a passing attack
-produced as a pass catcher
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
How do you find this info? I have a subscription, but I don't use this. I really want to check out this person's other projections though.Gawain said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
some staffers dont update their dyno rankings in season.
Not that in-season dyno rankings matter much
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
Stacy has been a godsend in this season of disappointing and hurt RBs.
Too bad he has a bye coming up next week. Who are you guys going to have to plug into his place in week 11?
Too bad he has a bye coming up next week. Who are you guys going to have to plug into his place in week 11?
NajehHejan
Footballguy
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Stacy is my flex, so Keenan Allen.Actually debating between the two this week.
jackdubl
Footballguy
i'm actually happy that his bye is next week because it seems like he has been getting knicked up every game. with a week of rest he should come back and help owners push into the playoffs.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
ryno1980
Footballguy
I might bring Ray Rice off my bench with Stacy's bye and the Bears' inability to stop the run.
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
I like him too but Mike James hit the Seattle D up for 150+ yards in Seattle.
They might be having issues in Seattle.
Papa John's
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I chalk up mike James going off on Seattle because zach Stacy broke their will the week before.
MCguidance
Footballguy
I need to get this guy in my lineup. This week it might come at the expense of Shady McCoy.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
ESPN is so stupid. They have him as the #9 RB this week in their consensus rankings and then made him their #1 Flex play for the week. Why in the world would you be putting a top 10 RB in as your flex? So dumb.
I actually like Stacy as a top 5 RB play this week. He is strong up the middle and the Colts are pretty weak there against the run.
I actually like Stacy as a top 5 RB play this week. He is strong up the middle and the Colts are pretty weak there against the run.
MCguidance
Footballguy
In over Lacy for me.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Why?
RBM
Footballguy
MCguidance
Footballguy
Because he's outscoring him and I thought that Lacy would face a stacked box. He did and ha a very tough day. They might feed Lacy but he's not going to see the goal line opportunities like he once saw until Rodgers comes back IMO.Joe Summer said:
Ok cool, well he scored 20 in my league and that's 1 pt PPR. In any case, if that's his floor, it's pretty good.
TheAssassin
Footballguy
He had 68 total yards, 2 recpt, 1 td. How do you get 20 points? BTW I was happy with his performance.
TheAssassin
Footballguy
Indy is the 2nd stingiest to RBs in fantasy, so that is good news.
