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The same way Locke knew: after the clock hits 0, we heard spinning and mechanical sounds as the heiroglyphics replaced the numbers. When Locke was trapped under the blast door, we could hear the frantic beeping as the clock hit 0, then we could hear the spinning and the mechanical sounds.Not that any of that means that Henry entered the numbers.
Sorry, but I just don't get the boring thing. Lost is all about back stories and good writing, etc. Would you rather watch an extended version of the Matrix or watch Matrix 2/Matrix 3.Personally, I like a TV show, not that there are any like Lost, that makes you think and delves into every character.
Then stop watching and stop posting in this thread. No one wants to listen to you complain.
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Already need to resort to personal insults?You said you agreed with the guy who said the show has become boring and has decided to stop watching it. If that isnt what you really meant, sorry I guess. I think were all sick of the idiots who come in here every week to say they cant stand the pace of the show, or the lack of resolution, or Jack's backstories and swear theyre never going to watch again.LeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO)
Well, he obviously lied at least once about it, because he initially told Locke he pushed the buttons, then later said he hadn't. I don't see any reason to think one statement is more likely to be true than the other.
Ive been kicking this around in my head for a while and this is the only way I can get it to make sense:Whether or not "Henry" was lying to Locke about the button being meaningless, he was trying to get Locke to believe that pressing the button does nothing. But why do that when he originally told Locke that he pressed the button? If he wanted Locke to believe that the pressing the button does nothing, why tell Locke that he entered the numbers?
This kind of goes with the magnetism/Philadelphia experiment thing. I heard an interview with one of the engineers involved with the philadelphia experiment. They were using magnetism to try and make ships invisible, but instead they were actually time traveling to another dimension. When they returned all of the people on the outside of the ship went crazy.Based on this comment, and some of the books.....I'm starting to think they're in another dimension.Perhaps a pocket dimension that if it collapses they'll all die. They have to hit the button, otherwise the magnet powers down and the dimension starts to collapse.
They have a limited ability to influence events in our dimension, and the pocket dimension isn't time specific, i.e. the others can influence any point in history and have drawn the survivors together. In some of their initial experimentations they pulled the Black Rock and Rousseau through, etc. They have fined tuned it enough now that they pulled through what they really wanted.....the lost plane.
The cloud monster is an entity from the other dimension.....the others are somehow using the children to communicate with it. The others aren't innocent/good/pure of heart enough for the monster to understand them.
Other entities are communicating with the survivors through the whispers/visions etc, some of it may also be "spill over" from our dimension.....not all of them are "good". The disease is if you listen to the entities too much and essentially lose your mind, what almost happened to Hurley.
Most of the survivors aren't really effected by the disease because there are enough real people together to distract them from the entities' influence. If you're alone you are much more susceptible. Rousseau's party was probably too small to overcome the influence of the entities and they fell victim to the disease.
Yes, probably way off here.....but it's another theory.
I'll never have to miss another episode of Lost again.Thinking out loud...If Henry had accomplished his mission of not entering the numbers and setting off an event, why does he tell Locke he didn't enter the numbers? To get in Locke's head before he leaves, maybe. But, why does he return at all. If he was supposed to infiltrate the group and then not press the numbers, why did he come back to help Locke? He had another purpose in infiltrating them.
I got the impression that the Japanese bald dude had knocked up Sun (when she thought she couldn't get pregnant), and she spared Jin the humiliation of telling him that she had cheated, seeing as though they are now on a deserted island.Anyone else think this?
This was kicked around, but they've been on the island for 50+ days now. Don't the first signs of morning sickness happen sooner than that? I think Jin knocked her up when the Tailies were reunited with the rest of the crew. Remember Hurley gave him a thumbs up the next day (probably because he knocked the bottom out of Sun and kept the whole camp awake)
That was my first thought. You did see the tension between them in that bald dude's apartment or wherever that was. But not sure "when" this happened. And then the look on Sun's face when she hugged Jin was rather odd.One of these two theories will be correct. Not sure which yet though.
Hurley's food is different in each picture also....and there is a bearded man in the background tooLeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley.jpgYou're timeline is incorrect. "Henry" didnt tell Locke that he did not enter the numbers until after Sayid told "Henry" what he dug up. Now that they know who he is, "Henry" wont be leaving any time soon.Also, "Henry" returned so that he could tell Locke that he had pressed the button, when, in fact, he did not [according to the theory].
Children and "good" people.
I think your observation is correct, but those things were on the island before Walt got there.
Weird things since Walt got grabbed:1a. Sawyer grabs Kate and says something like her step father who she killed.
I think we covered this before. After 50 days (almost 2 months), it is pretty evident that Jin knocked her up. We also saw the bald dude and Sun and while they almost kissed, they stopped and I thought Sun or the bald guy said that they couldn't.
Looks like celery to me.Hurley's food is different in each picture also....and there is a bearded man in the background tooLeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO
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Looks like celery to me.LeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley.jpg
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Yup, looks like celery. It also looks like the people behind Hurley are missing from the Polaroid. I'll go with "not the same picture."Looks like celery to me.LeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley2.jpg
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I noticed the wierd look, too, and assumed it meant she was lying to Jin. However, due to the length of time already on the island, I'm assuming she was "with" someone while Jin was on the raft/with the tailies.
I remember the weird look that Sun had, but to a certain degree I think it was a bit of hesitation on her part because she knew that Jin was supposed to be shooting blanks.
Henry got into Lockes head.
Any normal elementary school kid could f* with Locke. He seemed so together and in charge in the first few weeks on the island killing the boar and finding the hatch, but he has fallen apart lately.It might be good for Locke to get back in the "search" mode instead of trying to compete with Jack as a leader.
Wasn't really a timeline I was presenting. My thoughts were out of order and were really two thoughts put together. If his job was to get in to the group and not press the buttons, he did it. Why come back?
Where is the CAKE?Yup, looks like celery. It also looks like the people behind Hurley are missing from the Polaroid. I'll go with "not the same picture."Looks like celery to me.LeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley2.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley3.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley4.jpg
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The cake was there in reality, but missing when his buddy showed up. Weight problems come from eating cake not celery. I am voting that someone on the set is not doing a good job of analyzing the props they are using. They should have learned by now.Yup, looks like celery. It also looks like the people behind Hurley are missing from the Polaroid. I'll go with "not the same picture."Looks like celery to me.LeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley2.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley3.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley4.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley5.jpg
I thought they were graham crackers and they were to Hurley's left which was the front of the table as we are looking at it and not visible in the picture. You don't see the Connect 4 game either. Doesn't mean it is not there.Where is the CAKE?Yup, looks like celery. It also looks like the people behind Hurley are missing from the Polaroid. I'll go with "not the same picture."Looks like celery to me.LeonardI found a screen shot. Leonard was not in the picture, because he was out of frame. It does look like it's nighttime, but that could just be because its a crappy old polaroid camera picture. Hurley definitely does not look drugged with his mouth open... not at all.Polaroid ScreencapI'm pretty sure that Leonard WAS in the pic the doc showed Hurley.. Going just off memory here though -- would be interested to hear from someone with a screenshot (or who doesn't work and has it on TIVO
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley2.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley3.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley4.jpg
http://www.xero.com/dump/hurley5.jpg
1a and b are odd especially with Sawyer seeing the horse. But a horse on an island is not as weird as a polar bear.2 and 3 are Walt related.
They look different to me, particularly if you look at the ears (longer lobes on Henry, more rounded on the maintenance guy).BTW, I've finally caught up on both Lost and this thread. I think I watched about a dozen episodes over the last 10 days. Yes, I didn't see a lot of it back in the fall, but catching it all at once was sweet.Looks like the same guy to me too. I kept watching the backgound for familiar faces but I must have missed this one.Looks like the same guy to me
Beardless guy is definitely Zeke. The beard is a phony.The intel guy is Kate's dad.They look different to me, particularly if you look at the ears (longer lobes on Henry, more rounded on the maintenance guy).BTW, I've finally caught up on both Lost and this thread. I think I watched about a dozen episodes over the last 10 days. Yes, I didn't see a lot of it back in the fall, but catching it all at once was sweet.Looks like the same guy to me too. I kept watching the backgound for familiar faces but I must have missed this one.Looks like the same guy to me
After reading about 100 pages and watching these episodes, there is one bit of conjecture that I don't believe I've seen.
When I saw the Claire episode with the flashbacks, I did not immediately connect the beardless guy that Ethan talked to in the hallway as "Zeke." I actually was reminded of the American intelligence officer that induced Sayid to torture his former CO.
Am I off base here? Were these guys two different characters?
I think we (or some other board) had to check the credits on the episodes to confirm that they are different guys. But, they do look the same and kinda sound the same.Beardless guy is definitely Zeke. The beard is a phony.The intel guy is Kate's dad.They look different to me, particularly if you look at the ears (longer lobes on Henry, more rounded on the maintenance guy).BTW, I've finally caught up on both Lost and this thread. I think I watched about a dozen episodes over the last 10 days. Yes, I didn't see a lot of it back in the fall, but catching it all at once was sweet.Looks like the same guy to me too. I kept watching the backgound for familiar faces but I must have missed this one.Looks like the same guy to me
After reading about 100 pages and watching these episodes, there is one bit of conjecture that I don't believe I've seen.
When I saw the Claire episode with the flashbacks, I did not immediately connect the beardless guy that Ethan talked to in the hallway as "Zeke." I actually was reminded of the American intelligence officer that induced Sayid to torture his former CO.
Am I off base here? Were these guys two different characters?
Oh, you meant the prison guard from Shawshank guy? He's also not Zeke.I think we (or some other board) had to check the credits on the episodes to confirm that they are different guys. But, they do look the same and kinda sound the same.Beardless guy is definitely Zeke. The beard is a phony.The intel guy is Kate's dad.They look different to me, particularly if you look at the ears (longer lobes on Henry, more rounded on the maintenance guy).BTW, I've finally caught up on both Lost and this thread. I think I watched about a dozen episodes over the last 10 days. Yes, I didn't see a lot of it back in the fall, but catching it all at once was sweet.Looks like the same guy to me too. I kept watching the backgound for familiar faces but I must have missed this one.Looks like the same guy to me
After reading about 100 pages and watching these episodes, there is one bit of conjecture that I don't believe I've seen.
When I saw the Claire episode with the flashbacks, I did not immediately connect the beardless guy that Ethan talked to in the hallway as "Zeke." I actually was reminded of the American intelligence officer that induced Sayid to torture his former CO.
Am I off base here? Were these guys two different characters?
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