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Yes and no. They've accelerated some of the plotlines, particularly Danyreas', so there's no real solid answer to that unfortunately. Storylines are still pretty new though so I don't think you'd be spoiling anything by watching the first 2. Plus it'll give you some visuals to keep in your head while reading.
Yes and no. They've accelerated some of the plotlines, particularly Danyreas', so there's no real solid answer to that unfortunately. Storylines are still pretty new though so I don't think you'd be spoiling anything by watching the first 2. Plus it'll give you some visuals to keep in your head while reading.That's kinda what I figured. I'm plowing through the thing so I think I'll just hold off, I'm betting I have the book done by this weekend. It's pretty tough to put down.
Yeah, but they're necessary and fair in this case IMO.
not sure if this has been answered yet as i skipped over about 1/2 a page where i saw lots o "spoiler" tags. But, anyway, they're a Northern Inuit. It's a fairly new breed and despite their appearance, they are actually a very friendly, not so aggressive breed. A cross breed between a Huskie and Shepherd i believe.As for the show seemingly skipping over a lot of important info, that seems to be the style of HBO these days. I thought the same thing when watching Boardwalk Empire the first few times. That the show seemed to cram a lot into each hour, and that many major plotlines were given only a line or even just a glance from a character. But i got used to it after a few episodes and imagine i'll do the same here'Buckna said:
Evidently, those Northern Inuits were a PITA to train for this so they weren't able to get a ton of usable footage.I think the show is doing a fairly good job of keeping the main threads lucid and setting up later events. The big advanatge to reading the book vs watching this series is that the book has the appendices to help keep all of the characters straight. It appears HBO has chosen to either spoonfeed the audience less at a time than Martin, completely ignore some, or combine them (for instance, I don't think Theon has been mentioned by name yet even though he's had dialogue and a fair amount of screen time). Remains to be seen how well they balance all of this.
Is Theone the guy with Rob a lot? Also with the other Starks (and Snow) often? I kept thinking he was another brother until I saw the "family tree" earlier in the thread.
Yep, that's him. I'm sure they'll "introduce" him soon but it must be confusing for non-readers wondering who he his.
Yes. Theon Greyjoy. They have played him as Ned's squire. He is the heir to House Greyjoy and Ned's ward/hostage. When King Robert says to Ned I have not seen you in 9 years when he first comes to Winterfell, he is referring to Greyjoy's Rebellion when Theon's family revolted. Ned and Robert kicked the $#(+ out of the Greyjoy's and took Theon hostage to insure Balon Greyjoy's good behavior.
The only way I was able to tell him apart from the Starks is that he has his family Kracken emblem embroidered on his coat.
Is your question "who is he"? He's Ser Ilyn Payne, the royal executioner. He's not a henchman of Joffrey's, he serves the King (both Robert now and Aerys the Mad King that Robert overthrew) as the official beheader of the realm.
Actually he was the captain of the Lannister guards during The Mad King's reign not the King's Justice. He is/was a Lannister lackey/bannerman.(Why he lost his tounge is a matter for some crack pot theory of mine) The stated reason is that Ilyn bragged that Tywin Lannister (Father to the Lannister siblings we have et) actually ruled the kingdom (when Tywin was Hand) and that Aerys did what Tywin wanted. Aerys found out and removed Ilyn's tounge.
I really hate the kid playing Joffrey, so I guess that means he is doing it well.
OK . . . So Jamie Lannister is who physically killed the former king (Aerys?? who is the father of the blonde's across the sea, correct?) and then somehow Robert became king? What happened to Tywin?
Apologies for the misinformation. I had thought he held his position throughout. What's your crackpot theory?eta: one of the worst casting choices so far, IMO.
Yes Jamie (who was/is a member of the Kingsguard [Westeros Secret Service]) physically killed King Aerys II Targaryen (father to Viseyrs and Daenryes currently in exile across the Narrow Sea).Tywin is one of the most powerful Lords in the realm. He is Warden of the West. Ned Stark is Warden of the North.
Jamie was part of Robert's Rebellion as Stark, Lannister and Baratheon (among others) houses teamed up. Jamie was in the Kingsguard (Aerys' personal bodyguards) and slit Aerys' throat as the Stark/Baratheon hordes were descending on King's Landing. Afterwards, Robert married Cersei to join those two houses. Robert's bride to be was Eddard's sister who died after she was abducted by the Mad King's son, Prince Rhaegar, which actually kicked off the rebellion. Robert took Jon Arryn (his and Ned's mentor as mentioned last night) as his Hand, whose recent death has set in motion the story. Tywin went back to Casterly Rock, his house's castle in Lannisport and is one of the four great Lords of the realm.That's pretty close, might be off a bit but I am trying not to let any further info leak out from later in the books, nor emphasize anything that might become more important later.
I think his face is fine. But he was hamming it up so I am not happy with him so far. It does not help that Sophie Turner/Sansa is as tall as him. Plus the scene was poorly shot and written. It plays much better in the book inside Sansa's head and they did not give it enough time to work on screen.My crackpot theory will take a while to write and I am on my way out the door but I will post it later.
As a fan of the show who hasn't read the books, I think they have done well with the amount of characters, and anymore would be too much for the non book reading audience to follow along with (at least me). I have had to pull up the links posted in this thread earlier to HBO's viewer guide, etc. a few times to figure out what is going on.and thank you for using the spoiler tags in here, I would hate to have the show messed up by reading some stuff that happens later in the series.'Buckna said:
Cool, thanks for the link!
good luck with that
Sadly I cannot view these features. Because I have comcast it redirects me to their xfinity page and the special features aren't available.
We are about to get to King's Landing and Court as well as the Wall and Castle Black and will get a whole new batch of characters introduced.
Sorry probably a better place for this conversation. Watch or read without spoiling anything for yourself. It is a much better experience that way. There will be plenty of time to delve into crackpot theories after you read them all and you are waiting for the next book.My apologies if I ruined anything.
Not at all! It's my fault if I cannot resist the temptation. I find it making the series more interesting before even seeing anything new.
Wow, that would be interesting.
Yeah, I just didn't want to get too detailed, though that's a worthwhile distinction. Not sure why this is a spoiler topic though. I'm sure most of you have noticed but in the title opening they have a lot of murals of a stag and direwolf and I think a lion all attacking a dragon. Just a part of the detail they put into the background, especially if the painting behind Viserys in ep 1 is the Doom of Valyria. Too bad the director of the first two episodes has kinda sucked. Send in Michael Rymer from BSG, ASAP!!! (he was the exec director and did most of the season premieres and finales as well as most of the canon eps for BSG, he blows away Tim Van Patten, who thus far sucks).
I just didn't want people to get the wrong idea that the Lannister's had done something selfless or noble.'mad sweeney said:
I used spoiler tags just erring on the side of caution for those who may not want to learn too much of the history ahead of time and instead want to let it unfold. Of course if that's the case they probably should stay away from threads like this. 
interesting theory
