packersfan
Footballguy
It's entirely possible she could play QB better than Tebow.She certainly has plenty of experience playing in the spread formation.
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Tim Tebow - 8.17.21 Waived By Jacksonville (4 Viewers)
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Lester Long
Footballguy
FavreCo
Footballguy
He's trying to help jersey sales. They gotta get those off the racks by December.
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Boomer1
Footballguy
Coin toss right now - Tebow vs. Flacco
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
shader
Footballguy
I don't see what all the hate is about Tebow. He's started about 5 games in his NFL career. People act as if every other young QB will certainly progress, but that if Tebow can't do it now, than he's a lost cause.
The guy has talent. He has moxie. He can use his legs to break down defenses. His arm isn't near as bad as people make it out to be.
He's on a team in which he gets pressured a lot, a team with no running game, and the team decided to trade their best receiver when they gave him a shot.
Oh and his head coach has the offensive ingenuity of a brick.
I hope Tebow gets his chance. If he were to get yanked after 2 or 3 games, it would be really tragic, imo.
The guy has talent. He has moxie. He can use his legs to break down defenses. His arm isn't near as bad as people make it out to be.
He's on a team in which he gets pressured a lot, a team with no running game, and the team decided to trade their best receiver when they gave him a shot.
Oh and his head coach has the offensive ingenuity of a brick.
I hope Tebow gets his chance. If he were to get yanked after 2 or 3 games, it would be really tragic, imo.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
More than I hoped for this week 
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
The Comedian
Footballguy
Sweet. After I cut him for Cutler.
Benched Tebow for Vick; started him ahead of McCoy. Didn't think he would outrush Vick - up to 119 yards now as the Broncos kill the clock with first downs on the ground. Nice play on the read option to scramble for 20 yards up the right sideline, the Raiders look confused about whether to cover him or McGahee....
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
In my league Tebow sits as the #3 QB so far this week, with only two games left to play. I think its safe to say he'll finish as top 5.
He's definitely a fantasy QB1 as long as he's starting, and after this performance the Broncos would be stupid to bench him, next week or any time this year.
He's definitely a fantasy QB1 as long as he's starting, and after this performance the Broncos would be stupid to bench him, next week or any time this year.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Apple Juice
Footballguy
Didn't see the game, looks like Tebow rushed effectively, but man is McGahee having a year.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
When your people starting doing the "Tebow sucks" chant before halftime, you should have known the beast would be awakened.
az_prof
Footballguy
He made some bad throws but so did Palmer and so did Rivers (the two games I was watching). Tebow also made some good throws and a lot of great runs. His running also set up the HB sweeps that McGahee was running because the D was so focused on Tebow. I don't know if he can get better or not, but he is better than a lot of NFL QBs.
Football Jones
Footballguy
What a monster FF prospect. And Tebow will get better & better (over time).
If Denver doesn't get stubborn & stays creative, they could have one helluva productive QB (in time).
If Denver doesn't get stubborn & stays creative, they could have one helluva productive QB (in time).
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
That option read just FROZE the defensive end. He's the guy who would normally come crashing down on the RB.Once Foxy sees all of that on film, he'll really understand how to better utilize his new toy.
Disc Shark
Footballguy
I'll eat my serving of crow this week. Sauce picante, please. We'll see what happens next week. I still think he's not a competent NFL QB. Putting up some nice fantasy numbers, though.
Football Jones
Footballguy
The thing I'm preaching with Tebow is patience. He'll get better & better. Tebow will likely be up & down, but this kid has tons of potential despite being a non-traditional QB.
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Buffaloes
Footballguy
That read option has been huge 2 weeks in a row now becuase it has kept the defense honest. When the DE crashed down earlier today, TT kept it and ripped off a couple big runs. There are major issues with regard to playing as a pocket QB, but this is an important element Tebow brings to the table.
az_prof
Footballguy
He's not a complete QB yet as you say. But then again, not too many young QBs are. He CAN make any throw, but he just isn't consistent as a thrower. He is best as a thrower when he is rolling out and can buy extra time with his legs to survey the field. Personally, I would love to see them running more of a Pass/Rush Wildcat.I'll eat my serving of crow this week. Sauce picante, please. We'll see what happens next week. I still think he's not a competent NFL QB. Putting up some nice fantasy numbers, though.
shnikies
Footballguy
Sells jerseys and wins games. Yep, you're right, that's what he does.
FavreCo
Footballguy
The guys sucks. His stats suck (I'm talking real football here). The raiders can't stop the run. Thus they lost. It's not like they are a top team. They aren't. I'll see you when he takes his beatdown vs the NYJ and lets see him keep up with the Chargers O.Remember Tebow is to shnikies as Vince Young is to the hairy scotsman. That one didn't end well.
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shnikies
Footballguy
Wow.
FavreCo
Footballguy
In time. You do realize he is coming up against some real defenses in 4 of the next 5 weeks. See ya soon. It took a while to wipe out the scotsman and Vince Yooung. I'm in for the duration. It won't end well for Tebow and you. How soon you forget how bad he sucked last week. Funny.Wow.
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shnikies
Footballguy
Hate! Hate! Hate!In time. You do realize he is coming up against some real defenses in 4 of the next 5 weeks. See ya soon. It took a while to wipe out the scotsman and Vince Yooung. I'm in for the duration. It won't end well for Tebow and you.Wow.
FavreCo
Footballguy
You confuse hate with reality.
shnikies
Footballguy
Give the guy credit then I'll listen.
Genester
Footballguy
FavreCo, with respect, you've made your point. We all get it. What purpose is served by commenting on every mistake Tebow makes or deriding every success as luck? As you say, we will indeed see in due time. The fact you feel compelled to post the same shtick at an incredible frequency doesn't further this debate.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Did you even watch the game?Tebow is a young QB learning on the fly. He is not your typical QB. In your eyes he won't have success unless he drop back and throws for 280 plus yards with a 65% completion percentage, and although he may have some games like that down the road it is not who he truly is.Just maybe you could see him as a young player who has loads of talent and he may end up being a starting NFL qb with the skills and gifts he has. Sure defenses may game plan for him as they get film on him but as he gets better perhaps his own team will continue putting him in situations to succeed and he will learn to deal with those defensive looks he is and will be seeing.He may make some poor throws, but he may start to limit them too. He has started the last 3 games and they have won 2 of them. I don't care the competition but he has contributed to those wins. Anytime you are contributing to wins in the NFL while only starting your 5th game you have some potential. Why is it hard to see that maybe he can continue to grow as a player and be a good player? It must be bothering you that he is having success at the NFL level as he does not meet your standards as a QB.
CravenM
Footballguy
I think people are getting too up on his wins and too down on his losses.
Denver sent easily their best WR (Brandon Lloyd) to another team right before Tebow starts and all that's left is Eric Decker, Dem.Thomas and Eddie Royal - no idea who their TE's are. It's gonna take years, not a few games, before the Broncos can become a winning organization.
I don't know who else watched the game but the holding penalties cost the Broncos big time. They're not a very disciplined offensive line.
Tebow had a few overthrows and a few plays where the QB and WR weren't reading the same play. But overall, TT made good decisions, threw 2 TDs and 0 INT's, averaged 10 yards per carry, only got sacked twice and won the game. He's 2-1 as a starter and (DON'T LOOK NOW BUT) the Broncos are 1 game out of first place in their division.
Denver sent easily their best WR (Brandon Lloyd) to another team right before Tebow starts and all that's left is Eric Decker, Dem.Thomas and Eddie Royal - no idea who their TE's are. It's gonna take years, not a few games, before the Broncos can become a winning organization.
I don't know who else watched the game but the holding penalties cost the Broncos big time. They're not a very disciplined offensive line.
Tebow had a few overthrows and a few plays where the QB and WR weren't reading the same play. But overall, TT made good decisions, threw 2 TDs and 0 INT's, averaged 10 yards per carry, only got sacked twice and won the game. He's 2-1 as a starter and (DON'T LOOK NOW BUT) the Broncos are 1 game out of first place in their division.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
How soon you forget that he still scored 15 points that week, which was better than all-stars like Brees, Romo, Stafford, and Rivers.Even the best QBs have ups and downs. Give the kid some credit for a good game.If you are expecting him to be a great pocket passer, you're going to be disappointed. He's more likely to put up 100 rushing yards than 300 passing yards. Think early Michael Vick. It may not always be pretty, but it is enough to win games, both in reality and fantasy (see 2-1 as a starter this year).Also, while it isn't always pretty, his stat line is pretty great:
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Att Comp Pct Yds Yds/Att Yds /Comp Pass TDs Int Fum Rush Att Rush Yds Rush TDs 45 97 46.39 536 5.53 11.91 6 1 1 38 276 1
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FavreCo
Footballguy
I'm not talking fantasy. I'm talking about a guy being able to lead a team to Super Bowl championships. All of you tebow lovers will meet the same fate as the Vince Young, David Carr lovers. This guy is setting this team back years. THey will never win an NFL championship with this guy unless they can import in a D like the 85 Bears.Fantasy, go for it but I always stick with the QB that can throw the ball around. That's why I win championships. 4 with Favre, 2 with Brees.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Speaking of Vick, he may be more consistent with his throws completion percentage wise, but he also throws WAY more interceptions and has MUCH better receiving options. Vick had around 50% comp. percentage his first year, with 13 picks. Given time and a better supporting cast, I think we'll see Tebow's completion percentage improve to around 60%.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Blah blah blah... Vince Young... Blah blah blah. You guys just don't get it.
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ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I'm sorry, you must be lost then. This website is for fantasy football.You can find a general broncos message board here: http://forums.denverbroncos.com
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FavreCo
Footballguy
Yep. Knew that when I read the 1st page and his leading the Broncos to championships.
You may want to head to the tebow a #1 QW thread. You are so confused.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
'proninja said:
