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Dion Lewis (5 Viewers)
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ponchsox
Footballguy
The Claymaker
Footballguy
BB hates fumblers, at least Lewis has had a really good rest of the game and fumble was on an extra effort. Maybe BB will take that into consideration, this time.
Definitely would not be unprecedented for BB. Jonas Gray last year with 201 and 4TD's, then was late for a meeting and barely saw the field again. Something like that any way.
mlbnfl
Footballguy
Not saying this is wrong but Bolden is the big back and got the goal line carry early in the game as well so it likely wasn't largely due to the fumble. Now, how the rest of the game plays out may be a different story.
ponchsox
Footballguy
He'll definitely be benched but I think he's too valuable to the passing game not to sniff the field again.
EthnicFury
Footballguy
I think he gets another shot, but if he puts it on the ground again he's done.
Reading a lot into Bolden in immediately when he's been in in every previous short-yardage situation. Not that Lewis couldn't be benched, but they went to Bolden first and goal a couple drives ago as well.
Reading a lot into Bolden in immediately when he's been in in every previous short-yardage situation. Not that Lewis couldn't be benched, but they went to Bolden first and goal a couple drives ago as well.
I completely agree. I don't think Lewis was taken out at the GL for the fumble. But I think his opportunities could definitely decrease because of it, and potentially by a great deal.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Well he's losing a ton of snaps next week by default due to Blount's return. If anything, this opens the door for White more as the COP/3rd down back.
The Claymaker
Footballguy
That was a bad pass and a very tough catch in a downpour. But it would have great for my score tonight.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He looked good. Decent night but I wonder what happened with him on a week to week basis. Bolden looks like garbage.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
ourmanflint
Footballguy
He looked good, thus, it will be the same old story with NE backs. Flip a coin as to which one will be startable.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Re-watching this game and Lewis looks to have McCoy level shiftiness. He also looked good in between the tackles, breaking tackles and did a good job picking up the blitz. The lone mark on the night was the fumble at the GL.
If Blount wasn't returning next week this guy could have had tremendous upside this season.
If Blount wasn't returning next week this guy could have had tremendous upside this season.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Could we expect 11 carries and 5 targets every game from him? That's what he did most his damage on tonight
Had 4 carries running the clock for 6yds but he will hand those duties back to Blount
Had 4 carries running the clock for 6yds but he will hand those duties back to Blount
tombonneau
Footballguy
Congrats to those who scooped him up. I was surprised to not see White or Cadet at all. Seems like the Faulk/Woodhead/Vereen roles is his to lose. Given his ability to actually run inside, he might even cut into some of Blount's value. Looks like a real solid flex WW steal.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Blount isn't exactly reliable. In dynasty I think I'd trade Dion for a rookie second round pick right now. If I needed a back, I'd give a 2nd for him right now.
tombonneau
Footballguy
I think Lewis is more like Woodhead. Vereen's biggest limitation was he is a RB who isn't very good at running. Just never picked up much on the ground. But Lewis is more like Woodhead. Both can hit the hole and pick up yards and make guys miss. Vereen rarely made a guy miss. He's great at getting open and catching the ball and has wheels, but he's just getting what's there.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Shutout
Footballguy
No. Here is why this is different (and I probably won't explain it well so maybe some Pats fans can elaborate).
The Patriots last night, for the first time in a while, looked like the version of the Patriots that they used to be when they had the type of personnel (Hernandez, Woody, Vareen) where they could run those massive mismatch plays and unbalance the line, stay with a RB or move them all out, etc. Those plays they used to do all the time where the mismatch stressed the defense so bad that Tom Brady had a fielder's choice of who to go to across the middle OR down the sideline.
That was there ALL Night last night.
That game last night was played 100% on your tv screen and by that I mean, almost every single play, the cameras never had to pan across the field or down the field. They played that entire game within a 15 yard window which tells us it was super quick decision making and it was a lot of open options. That is exactly how the Patriots used to play all the time. bam bam bam and then jugular shot down field (which will be there when Lafell returns and//or Dobson gets it together, etc).
What they are doing now is the ideal Patriot football. Young line so you cover that up by making very quick decisions. Brady isn't getting beat up. There are multiple options opening quickly because Gronk is Gronk, Edelman is shifty, Lewis is all over the place. This is what they want to do.
JFS171
Footballguy
It's game-plan dependent no doubt, but I don't think Lewis disappears. He looked fantastic on both runs and catching the ball. He can flex outside, but he's not just a receiving back. That gives them tremendous ability to create matchup problems all over the field.
When Blount returns, I certainly expect he'll be much more involved than Bolden was... but I don't think Lewis becomes a non-factor. My guess is Blount is used in short yardage and as the clock killer... he could get some drives as a hammer to pound away at the defense when the matchup dictates.
As good as Lewis looked last night and the freedom it provided them on offense isn't going to be forgotten by the Pats. I'd bet he stays involved every week.
When Blount returns, I certainly expect he'll be much more involved than Bolden was... but I don't think Lewis becomes a non-factor. My guess is Blount is used in short yardage and as the clock killer... he could get some drives as a hammer to pound away at the defense when the matchup dictates.
As good as Lewis looked last night and the freedom it provided them on offense isn't going to be forgotten by the Pats. I'd bet he stays involved every week.
agreed.
but I was SHOCKED that Dion was still in the game after fumbling - they must REALLY like him.
Shutout
Footballguy
On their schedule:
Jags-Cowboys-Colts-Skins-Giants-Eagles-Titans
These are all teams where the defenses are bad and/or has shootout written all over it. So these 7 I think look like a Steeler copy & paste.
Bills-Jets-Dolphins twice
six division games against familiar opponents with good defenses. These could be the "pound it out" games but also lend themselves to be the "get rid of it quick" games, like last night, quick tempo, and , oh by the way, if we can, "we have lots of incentive to run it up" on them games.
Broncos-Texans
Two really good defenses but let's face it, Manning vs. Brady is always a show and Texans vs. Patriots has seemingly been an automatic 35+ for the Patriots for half a decade.
I don't doubt you are absolutely correct in what you are saying. There will be those games but this schedule looks very inviting for the Patriots to drop the hammer A LOT this year.
