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Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots (1 Viewer)

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With the addition of a more legitimate #2 WR in NE, Gronkowski doesn't seem likely to see 144 targets like last year. In addition, NE doesn't seem likely to throw the all 600+ times again. That being said, NE's run game is not proven, so I would expect more than the 520 attempts that Josh McDaniels' QBs have averaged the last 3 years; the total will probably be more like the 570 attempts that NE averaged when McDaniels was their OC. Last year Gronkowski was targeted on 24% of NE's passing attempts. With Lloyd, I expect them to take a few more deep shots this year, so let's drop that down to about 19%. Out of 570 attempts, that would be 110 targets. Last year he caught 63% of the passes thrown at him, his rookie year, it was 71%. His hands are pretty solid, and with the addition of Lloyd as a deep threat, it will be more difficult for teams to double him with a safety all the time. I'll say his catch % goes up, slightly, to 65%. That would equal 72 catches. Last year his YPC was 14.7. I'll factor in a lower YPC this year, 13.5. He is a red-zone beast, and I don't see that changing. I would expect 12 TDs this year, with the target & catch numbers I've projected.

Gronkowski

72 catches, 972 yards, 12 TD

 
Gronk is, by a mile, the best skill position player on the Patriots not named Brady but the supporting cast did get a bit better with the addition of Lloyd. However, studs get theirs and I think that Lloyd affects Hernandez and the other WRs more than Gronk. So I think he'll see a similar number of targets and catch % this year as he did last. He's averaged a TD every five receptions over his career so far, but that just seems an impossible rate to continue so I'll ding both that and his WR-like 14.7 per reception a bit to get to 90-1200-15. In PPR leagues he should be a lock for 100 VBD points and a redraft selection no later than the 1/2 turn.

 
'menobrown said:
'fdctrumpet said:
Ceiling: 89/1280/16
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You did not trim it much but just the same I don't understand how a players ceiling, which to me implies his absolute best provided everything falls into place, can be be lower than what he's actually already done.
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I think he is talking about next season
 
'Bayhawks said:
With the addition of a more legitimate #2 WR in NE, Gronkowski doesn't seem likely to see 144 targets like last year. In addition, NE doesn't seem likely to throw the all 600+ times again. That being said, NE's run game is not proven, so I would expect more than the 520 attempts that Josh McDaniels' QBs have averaged the last 3 years; the total will probably be more like the 570 attempts that NE averaged when McDaniels was their OC. Last year Gronkowski was targeted on 24% of NE's passing attempts. With Lloyd, I expect them to take a few more deep shots this year, so let's drop that down to about 19%. Out of 570 attempts, that would be 110 targets. Last year he caught 63% of the passes thrown at him, his rookie year, it was 71%. His hands are pretty solid, and with the addition of Lloyd as a deep threat, it will be more difficult for teams to double him with a safety all the time. I'll say his catch % goes up, slightly, to 65%. That would equal 72 catches. Last year his YPC was 14.7. I'll factor in a lower YPC this year, 13.5. He is a red-zone beast, and I don't see that changing. I would expect 12 TDs this year, with the target & catch numbers I've projected.Gronkowski72 catches, 972 yards, 12 TD
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:goodposting: I think your numbers are just about right, Loyd, Stallworth\Gaffney and even Vereen will likley all factor in to less oportunities for Gronkowski. If anything I would lower the numbers a bit more, but I would be nitpicking.
 
'sihaokills said:
'menobrown said:
'fdctrumpet said:
Ceiling: 89/1280/16
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You did not trim it much but just the same I don't understand how a players ceiling, which to me implies his absolute best provided everything falls into place, can be be lower than what he's actually already done.
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I think he is talking about next season
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I know and don't want to cloud this thread up anymore but again I don't see how the absolute best a player can be, his "ceiling", is a regression. Most people expect a regression and I do as well but I can't fathom the absolute best he could be as worse than what he already was. It's not impossible that he could actually improve on last year. His second half was better than his first half last year and that's not even counting the explosion he put on the Broncos in his last fully healthy game.
 
'menobrown said:
'sihaokills said:
'menobrown said:
'fdctrumpet said:
Ceiling: 89/1280/16
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You did not trim it much but just the same I don't understand how a players ceiling, which to me implies his absolute best provided everything falls into place, can be be lower than what he's actually already done.
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I think he is talking about next season
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I know and don't want to cloud this thread up anymore but again I don't see how the absolute best a player can be, his "ceiling", is a regression. Most people expect a regression and I do as well but I can't fathom the absolute best he could be as worse than what he already was. It's not impossible that he could actually improve on last year. His second half was better than his first half last year and that's not even counting the explosion he put on the Broncos in his last fully healthy game.
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Agree with meno here about his ceiling. Injuries to Welker or Lloyd could happen and increase his total targets.
 
Taking Gronk in the 1st round is one of the ballsiest strategies in fantasy this year. I have a feeling that many will regret it, especially those who are taking him ahead stud RBs that belong in the 1st round and then pairing him with Graham in the 2nd. One thing I will say is that there are handful of breakout players this year that actually make this a valid strategy. But the risk is immense if you don't get your hands on those players, and any semi-educated fantasy league will have many of the owners targeting these players. Personally I think it's a huge risk and I'd rather limit risk in $ leagues.

Another problem is, even if you get your hands on most of these "breakout players," they will most likely start slow before having that "out of nowhere" breakout that we see every single year. Some Gronk Round 1/Graham Round 2 teams might put themselves in a hole when the season starts.

As for projections, I'm not nearly as optimistic about him as others are. The ankle injury wasn't serious, but playing the massive amount of snaps that Gronk does (on a New England offense which probably leads the leagues in offensive plays), I wouldn't be surprised if he starts to earn an "injury risk" label. Also, he's now the defense's #1 priority. Defenses will focus on Gronk, opening things up for Welker, Hernandez and Lloyd. I expect receptions and yards to go way down. Redzone TDs will be his bread and butter, but the RB situation is the wildcard here. There's some great talent there and if they pan out, they'll significantly cut into those numbers.

I usually don't project injuries, but I'm rolling with my gut on this one. 13 Games, 65 Receptions, 900 yards, 11 TDs

 
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Taking Gronk in the 1st round is one of the ballsiest strategies in fantasy this year. I have a feeling that many will regret it, especially those who are taking him ahead stud RBs that belong in the 1st round and then pairing him with Graham in the 2nd. One thing I will say is that there are handful of breakout players this year that actually make this a valid strategy. But the risk is immense if you don't get your hands on those players, and any semi-educated fantasy league will have many of the owners targeting these players. Personally I think it's a huge risk and I'd rather limit risk in $ leagues.

Another problem is, even if you get your hands on most of these "breakout players," they will most likely start slow before having that "out of nowhere" breakout that we see every single year. Some Gronk Round 1/Graham Round 2 teams might put themselves in a hole when the season starts.

As for projections, I'm not nearly as optimistic about him as others are. The ankle injury wasn't serious, but playing the massive amount of snaps that Gronk does (on a New England offense which probably leads the leagues in offensive plays), I wouldn't be surprised if he starts to earn an "injury risk" label. Also, he's now the defense's #1 priority. Defenses will focus on Gronk, opening things up for Welker, Hernandez and Lloyd. I expect receptions and yards to go way down. Redzone TDs will be his bread and butter, but the RB situation is the wildcard here. There's some great talent there and if they pan out, they'll significantly cut into those numbers.

I usually don't project injuries, but I'm rolling with my gut on this one. 13 Games, 65 Receptions, 900 yards, 11 TDs
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following this reasoning you should avoid players on every strong offense in favor of crap offenses that expose their players to less injury risk.also, as for the league adjusting to him and shutting him down, he put up 8/108/2 in the 2nd game against buf, 10/145/3 in the 2nd game against den, and 8/113/2 in the 2nd game against the jets.

bearing in mind, these guys had already seen him in 2010, too.

 
'Kool-Aid Larry said:
'sspunisher said:
Taking Gronk in the 1st round is one of the ballsiest strategies in fantasy this year. I have a feeling that many will regret it, especially those who are taking him ahead stud RBs that belong in the 1st round and then pairing him with Graham in the 2nd. One thing I will say is that there are handful of breakout players this year that actually make this a valid strategy. But the risk is immense if you don't get your hands on those players, and any semi-educated fantasy league will have many of the owners targeting these players. Personally I think it's a huge risk and I'd rather limit risk in $ leagues.

Another problem is, even if you get your hands on most of these "breakout players," they will most likely start slow before having that "out of nowhere" breakout that we see every single year. Some Gronk Round 1/Graham Round 2 teams might put themselves in a hole when the season starts.

As for projections, I'm not nearly as optimistic about him as others are. The ankle injury wasn't serious, but playing the massive amount of snaps that Gronk does (on a New England offense which probably leads the leagues in offensive plays), I wouldn't be surprised if he starts to earn an "injury risk" label. Also, he's now the defense's #1 priority. Defenses will focus on Gronk, opening things up for Welker, Hernandez and Lloyd. I expect receptions and yards to go way down. Redzone TDs will be his bread and butter, but the RB situation is the wildcard here. There's some great talent there and if they pan out, they'll significantly cut into those numbers.

I usually don't project injuries, but I'm rolling with my gut on this one. 13 Games, 65 Receptions, 900 yards, 11 TDs
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following this reasoning you should avoid players on every strong offense in favor of crap offenses that expose their players to less injury risk.also, as for the league adjusting to him and shutting him down, he put up 8/108/2 in the 2nd game against buf, 10/145/3 in the 2nd game against den, and 8/113/2 in the 2nd game against the jets.

bearing in mind, these guys had already seen him in 2010, too.
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Actually, I didn't just look at his snap count and then decide he'd get hurt next year. I just have a gut feeling he'll miss some games and used the snap count to rationalize it. Connecting my gut feeling with the snap count isn't unreasonable. But saying that's a reason to project an injury to every other player in the NFL with a high snap count is.As for the league not adjusting, I don't think it's fair to designate BUF, DEN, and NYJ as proof that the rest of the league can't adjust to the two TE set. You are definitely right that teams didn't adjust to Gronk well last year. . But teams don't only adjust from week to week. It's a back and forth between offensive and defensive coaching gurus on a yearly basis in the NFL. Personnel obviously changes in the offseason, but so does scheme. Teams see success, so they try to duplicate it but they also find ways to stop it. We saw how Hester made teams overvalue returners and special teams standouts in the draft. We saw how the Wildcat did the same with a bunch of athletes who could throw the ball (not to say the 2 TE set is a fad like the Wildcat). The Giants insane dline rotation made teams value depth at dline more than ever (I know Philly noticed with that draft of theirs). You can argue the 2 TE set was born because of the Patriots struggles with that same Giants dline in 2007 and some notable playoff losses to strong defenses like the Jets and Ravens. Point is it's always a back and forth in the league.

As for Gronk specifically...he's way too talented not to continue to succeed. But expect much more resistance from the league. I think it was last year where I saw Romeo Crennel put two guys on Antonio Gates on the line of scrimmage. And I don't mean a regular double team with 1 up tight and one over the top. I'm talking two defensive players pressing him at the line of scrimmage like he was a gunner. I'm willing to bet you'll see some teams do that to Gronk in the redzone this year.

 
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You can argue the 2 TE set was born because of the Patriots struggles with that same Giants dline in 2007 and some notable playoff losses to strong defenses like the Jets and Ravens. Point is it's always a back and forth in the league.
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Two TE, one RB sets have been around as a base formation for a long time. Don Coryell's Chargers operated out of this set as have many of the offenses built around that coaching tree / offensive system. Gronk will stay on the field because he's the best offensive player on the Patriots outside of Brady. Hernandez will be on the field because he's 3rd or 4th among the WR/TEs depending on who you ask (behind Gronk, Welker, some say Lloyd).When I watched NE games last year, the guy that jumped off of the screen was Gronkowski. He looked ridiculously dominant to me, and last year was his 2nd year. Obviously stats like he posted in 2011 probably represent a statistical outlier, but it's also pretty obvious that having just turned 23, Gronk's best football is still to come. That's scary.

I think that any changes (due to the team regressing to the mean a bit, absorbing Lloyd) will likely effect Gronk the least, as he's the best receiver on the team, and also still likely improving as an NFL player.

85 - 1190 - 12

 
In the history of the NFL 17+ receiving TDs has been accomplished 11 times. The best TD total following that particular season is 13, which was accomplished just twice by Jerry Rice and Randy Moss.

If you project NE's entire passing game it's difficult to put Gronkowski above 1,000 yards and 12 TDs. That's where I currently have him.

 
Rob Gronkowski is the most talented TE in the league, and plays with of the best QBs in the league in an offense geared toward the pass. Great talent + great situation makes for big numbers. Now many may believe the Lloyd will steal some targets away from Gronkowski, but I don't buy it, since Lloyd and Gronkowski have very different roles in the offense. I suspect Lloyd will steal from Welker and Hernandez more than Gronkowski.

Gronkowski is literally unstoppable in the redzone, being 6-7, 260 with great hands. This will keep his TD totals high. IMO, 10 is probably his floor.

Also many will argue that he had only one year to go on. I disagree. He has produced for two years. Let's compare.

Targets FF Per % of Total

Targets Rec Yds TD Catch % YRC Per TD FF Pts Target Passes

2010 59 42 545 10 71.2% 13.0 5.9 156.5 2.7 12.0%

2011 124 90 1327 17 72.6% 14.7 7.3 324.7 2.6 20.3%

Numbers are

59 targets

42 receptions

545 yds

10 TD

71.2% catch %

13.0 YPC

5.9 Targets per TD

156.5 fantasy points assuming PPR and 1 pt per 10 yds rec

2.6 fantasy points per target

12.0% Pct of total NE passes

Based on the numbers, the only difference between 2010 and 2011 is the number of targets. I can't see Gronkowski not getting 20% of the passes thrown his way again in 2012. They guy just flat out produces. Actually, you can argue the addition of Lloyd will make it even more difficult to cover the middle the field where Gronkowski thrives. So my projection in 2012 is the average of the 2010-2011, assuming Brady throws 10% less passes in 2012, which is reasonable. Personally, I think this may be a little conservative.

80 rec, 1150 yds, 13 TD

In TE required leagues, is definitely worth a late 1st round pick/early 2nd round pick.

 
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Good point on Brady not having 611 attempts again. I think a 10% drop (550) may be a bit too much though. Assuming 575 attempts instead I'll revise my earlier 90-1200-14 to 84-1160-13.

 
Of all the standout seasons that were had in 2011, noones IMO was more impactful for their owners than Gronkowski who probably was drafted in the 8th round or later for all his owners and at a position where you are usually happy to get 750/7, Gronkowski established a new ceiling benchmark for what was possible at the position. He’s young – probably has many more years left in his prime and from what I’m seeing, people aren’t just predicting a pullback…they’re predicting an epic pullback. I would not be so quick to discount Gronk’s numbers as such an aberration.

1) He had 124 targets. That’s less than 8/game and represented 20.2% of all of the targets. This is more than replicatable and it seems to lend credence to the idea that he wasn’t overexploited by NE. If you were to ask yourself the question “Is Gronkowski likely to be targeted 124 times in 2011?” – wouldn’t you think probably?

2) At 6’6 265 with great hands and good speed for the position, he’s a mismatch anywhere on the field. But in the red zone? Deadly - even in his rookie year, when his per game production was much less than Year 2, his red zone production was off the charts. Career; 30 receptions, 21 TD’s in this area of the field.

No doubt the Patriots passing game last year seemed to be the NFL’s version of Two & a Half Men…(bad joke…I know). But I would think that the player who would suffer in the target re-distribution that NE seems likely to undergo with the addition of Brandon Lloyd would be Wes Welker (172) and Deion Branch (90). Fact is, on a per game basis, Gronkowski even finished behind Aaron Hernandez.

Also, many people are also thinking Brady comes back down to the 550 attempt area? I know he finished with 492 attempts in 2010. But the final 7 games of that season, he averaged less than 27 attempts/game. That’s a ludicrously low 16 game projection of 427 attempts. With inexperienced RB’s in Vereen/Ridley likely leading the way in the rushing attack, I can’t see the Patriots shifting too much away from a 60:40 pass/run ratio, especially after the every down emergence of Gronkowski/Hernandez. Remember, the Patriots passing game went through a significant adjustment when they cut loose Randy Moss in 2010. It’s not surprising that perhaps the lower number of attempts that season for them was due in part to Brady getting used to relying on weapons other than Welker (who himself was coming off an ACL tear). And even if he does come back down to 550 attempts, that only brings Gronk's % of targets figure up to 22.6%. Not absurd in the least given his skillset.

Thus, unless Gronk is dealing with injuries, I suspect he’ll still be a huge monster for the Pats in the passing game and I do think he’s worth his ADP. In fact, with a late 2nd round ADP currently, he may even outproduce it.

Prediction: 85 Receptions; 1227 Receiving Yards, 12 TD’s.

 
'Coeur de Lion said:
'sspunisher said:
You can argue the 2 TE set was born because of the Patriots struggles with that same Giants dline in 2007 and some notable playoff losses to strong defenses like the Jets and Ravens. Point is it's always a back and forth in the league.
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Two TE, one RB sets have been around as a base formation for a long time. Don Coryell's Chargers operated out of this set as have many of the offenses built around that coaching tree / offensive system. Gronk will stay on the field because he's the best offensive player on the Patriots outside of Brady. Hernandez will be on the field because he's 3rd or 4th among the WR/TEs depending on who you ask (behind Gronk, Welker, some say Lloyd).When I watched NE games last year, the guy that jumped off of the screen was Gronkowski. He looked ridiculously dominant to me, and last year was his 2nd year. Obviously stats like he posted in 2011 probably represent a statistical outlier, but it's also pretty obvious that having just turned 23, Gronk's best football is still to come. That's scary.

I think that any changes (due to the team regressing to the mean a bit, absorbing Lloyd) will likely effect Gronk the least, as he's the best receiver on the team, and also still likely improving as an NFL player.

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Well obviously I wasn't referring to the actual formation. Teams traditionally used one "receiving" tight end and the other would be more of an in-line type. Two athletic "receiving" tight ends in the mold of a Tony G or Antonio Gates on the same team hasn't been considered in the past as strongly as it is today. Already seeing the copy cat going around with the Colts drafting two TEs. Bengals and Cowboys drafted Charles and Hannah to go with Gresham and Witten, I'm sure I'm missing a few other teams who've done the same.
 
How are people feeling about Gronk now with Lloyd in the mix and supposedly having great chemistry with Brady? Will that take away from his looks? anyone downgrading him a bit from is 2nd round adp?

Paging Yudkin...

:popcorn:

 
'PinkydaPimp said:
How are people feeling about Gronk now with Lloyd in the mix and supposedly having great chemistry with Brady? Will that take away from his looks? anyone downgrading him a bit from is 2nd round adp? Paging Yudkin... :popcorn:
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I'd be a little concerned he might have to block more because of the tackle issues, and mcd hasn't historically been a te guy.of course, he's not an idiot, and he hasn't had a gronk before, either.I'd say it depends on what you need from gronk to get 2nd round value -- if you cut his td's in half he still has 9, which is good, but not 2nd round good.so, what's the number he needs to hit?
 
I think Gronk still catches 12-14 touchdowns, but his catches will be down to around 75-80 and his yardage will be somewhere in the 1000-1100 range. Still beastly, but not as ridiculous as last year.

 
He should still get 12-14 TD's. He's one of the best redzone targets in all of football. Lloyd will likely take some targets away, but Lloyd won't be taking his all important RZ targets.

 
I honestly think the only better red zone target in the NFL right now is Megatron.

For red zone targets...

I'd put Megatron and Gronk in the first tier.

Graham in the second tier.

Everyone else after those 3.

 
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Given he is playing Sunday night most teams will not be starting him this week unless we hear news from Belichek and that is highly unlikely.

 
Confirmed: Gronk practiced today with New England.

"Rob Gronkowski, TE, NE

News: Showing rapid progress in his recovery from forearm surgery, Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski returned to practice Friday, the Boston Globe reports. It was the first time Gronkowski has practiced since having surgery Nov. 19 to repair an injury he suffered the day before during the final minutes of Week 11 against Indianapolis. Gronkowski, who was originally expected to be sidelined four to six weeks following the procedure, has missed the past three games. His official status for Week 15 against San Francisco has yet to be determined.

CBS Analysis: Despite the practice appearance Friday, Gronkowski still appears to be a longshot to play Sunday as he has yet to even hit the short end of his timetable. That could leave a return for Week 16 at Jacksonville at possibility as New England would prefer to slide him into game action before the start of the NFL playoffs. Gronkowski has recorded 53 receptions for 748 yards and 10 touchdowns -- the third straight season he's posted at least 10 scores. Fantasy owners should keep him reserved in all formats with the chance he helps over the final two weeks of the season, playoff time for many leagues."

 
NFL.COM

Rob Gronkowski has taken his first step toward a return for the New England Patriots.

NFL.com's Albert Breer reported that Gronkowski participated in practice Friday for the first time since suffering a broken bone in his forearm Nov. 18 against the Indianapolis Colts.

Breer reported earlier this week that the plan all along has been to get Gronkowski some playing time before the postseason, but that he was a long shot for this week. Though he returned to practice in some fashion Friday, don't expect to see the star tight end on the field for Sunday's matchup against the San Francisco 49ers.

The Patriots have averaged 38 points per game in their three matchups without Gronkowski, and Tom Brady has another impact tight end he can lean on in Aaron Hernandez. Gronkowski will make the offense even more dangerous when he returns, but the Patriots are unlikely to rush him back in the lineup.

Follow Dan Hanzus on Twitter @DanHanzus.

 
WEEI:

FOXBORO -- Rob Gronkowski returned to practice on Friday as the Patriots worked out in sweats and shells inside Gillette Stadium on the main field.

Gronkowski broke his left forearm blocking on the final extra point in New England's 59-28 win over the Colts on Nov. 18. He had surgery the next day and has missed the last three games. Gronkowski was wearing blue long sleeves with no apparent extra padding on the left arm. He was spotted squeezing his left hand during sprints at the start of practice in an apparent test of strength in the arm.

The Boston Globe reported earlier this week that Gronkowski was hopeful to return to practice this week and be available to play Sunday night when the Patriots host the 49ers at Gillette Stadium.

Gronkowski had missed the first two practices this week before taking the field with the team for the first time since breaking his forearm. The Patriots had perfect attendance at practice on Friday among all players eligible to participate. Only the suspended Jermaine Cunningham was not in attendance.

It is likely the Patriots will list Gronkowski as "limited" when the official injury report comes out later on Friday. The Patriots officially listed 17 players as limited on Thursday.

 
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There is no chance he plays this week right?What are the chance he plays next week as well?
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Who knows?I'm interested to see if coaches change their stance on franchise players. You'd think there are 5-6 guys on the Pats that you wouldn't use on special teams. I still don't get why he was in that situation to begin with... but I'm not a head coach.
 
Gonna be a really tough decision about whether to start Gronk in championship games if he comes back for the first time in Week 16. He's so good you almost have to roll with him, but he probably wouldn't play his normal snap count.

 
In the league I've got Gronk I've also got Hernandez so I'll likely leave him on the bench regardless. seems like Hernandez does better when Gronk plays anyway!

 
If he's back for championship weekend next weekend I'm playing him, whether that be for 3/4 of 1/2 remains to be seen. If he plays, he's in.

 
'hal9000 said:
'glumpy said:
In the league I've got Gronk I've also got Hernandez so I'll likely leave him on the bench regardless. seems like Hernandez does better when Gronk plays anyway!
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:popcorn: Keep us posted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!one111111!!!!!!
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lol. It's a small stakes pickup league among friends at work with little experience overall. Draft was a hoot--I gave everyone league specific FBG draft sheets to work off of and then ended up having to pick over the phone while driving to meet a contractor off site! I drafted Gronk and someone dropped Hernandez when he got hurt.
 
Profootballtalk.com reports that Rob Gronkowski (forearm, questionable) "could" play on Sunday night versus the 49ers.Gronkowski practiced on Friday, but he was all but ruled out for Week 15 despite the surprising return to the field. However, Profootballtalk still says it would be an "unexpected" appearance. The chances of Gronk suiting up are slim-to-none, and we wouldn't recommend banking on him to play. A return for Week 16 seems more likely, but even that isn't a guarantee.Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports Dec 16 - 8:47 AMhttp://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5729/rob-gronkowski
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:popcorn:
 
'letter_j said:
Profootballtalk.com reports that Rob Gronkowski (forearm, questionable) "could" play on Sunday night versus the 49ers.Gronkowski practiced on Friday, but he was all but ruled out for Week 15 despite the surprising return to the field. However, Profootballtalk still says it would be an "unexpected" appearance. The chances of Gronk suiting up are slim-to-none, and we wouldn't recommend banking on him to play. A return for Week 16 seems more likely, but even that isn't a guarantee.Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports Dec 16 - 8:47 AMhttp://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5729/rob-gronkowski
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Next to 0% chance I would start him in a late game ths week
 
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