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WR Josh Gordon, KC (13 Viewers)
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Sake-Bombers
Footballguy
Josh Gordon is the Shrodinger's cat of fantasy football. He currently both is and isn't suspended and we won't know which until Goodell opens the box.
LawFitz
Footballguy
There are these cool new sites the kids are using these days called Twitter, Facebook and Pinterest. You should check them out.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
. Coach justified it by saying they want him to get as many reps as possible to become familiar with the new offense.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
It was released that the NFL wants to be paid for the Superbowl half-time show. That is publicity that reaches far beyond a football fan and more detrimental than a suspension comparison between two players that most people don't know.
In the grand scheme, Rice and Gordon are nobodies. A Rice and Gordon suspension comparison is mainly something the hardcore NFL fans would know or care about.
I would bet the farm that the NFL has never approached the hearing officer and said..."Hey Harold, go easy on Josh Gordon because we went easy on Ray Rice and do not want comparisons between the two suspensions".
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Noone knows who Josh Gordon is...
Noone but the hardcore know who he is...
https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=josh%20gordon&src=typd
Welcome to technology, folks.
Noone but the hardcore know who he is...
https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=josh%20gordon&src=typd
Welcome to technology, folks.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Yeah,
"NFL Wants to be Paid for Superbowl Halftime Show"
is worse than
"NFL Cares More About Weed Smoking than Spouse Beating"
or
"Hitting a Bong = 16 Game Suspension, Hitting your Fiancee = 2 Game Suspension."
Khy
Footballguy
Probably safe to assume nobody has said that verbatim... but I'd bet the farm that someone has said "I see a lot of people on Twitter, ESPN etc. talking about how we gave Rice a slap on the wrist for going Chris Brown on his wife and we're talking about giving Gordon a suspension for a full year just for smoking some pot."
Not said to sway the result either way but if you really think it isn't something they've considered when every major sports media outlet has mentioned it then you're just being ignorant.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
LOL. You mean if you search for someone's name that results will show up?
At your noon hour, go ask 100 people on the street (outside of Ohio) who Josh Gordon is and I would wager 10 or less people know.
He caught his only pass in the 4th Quarter.
It was from Manziel.
Future is looking good.
Proust Loves Cake
Footballguy
The suggestion that this would even remotely be considered is laughable. He still gets a year. Delay is due to preparing for any potential legal challenges, which I am certain Gordon's team has made explicit. But he still gets full year. No deal. No reduction. Business as agreed upon in collective bargaining.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
The half time superbowl show news is getting publicity on local radio stations and on local news and in media not related to sports. Those suspensions will never have that type of reach.Yeah,
"NFL Wants to be Paid for Superbowl Halftime Show"
is worse than
"NFL Cares More About Weed Smoking than Spouse Beating"
or
"Hitting a Bong = 16 Game Suspension, Hitting your Fiancee = 2 Game Suspension."
Khy
Footballguy
While I agree and hope those are all headlines afterwards... I doubt they will be for one main reason.Yeah,
"NFL Wants to be Paid for Superbowl Halftime Show"
is worse than
"NFL Cares More About Weed Smoking than Spouse Beating"
or
"Hitting a Bong = 16 Game Suspension, Hitting your Fiancee = 2 Game Suspension."
The sports world didn't implode after the Rice decision came down. Yeah, people complained said it was a slap on the wrist. But the NFL lost no sleep over the matter. Suspending Gordon for 16 won't change that fact. It's true, neither has anything to do with the other. While common sense leads us to believe this would be a big deal, and it should be. It won't. If a big deal was going to be made over Rice getting 2 games for beating his wife, it would've happened the minute the decision was handed down. Adding Gordon's result on top of it is unlikely to change any outrage.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
You have NO idea what Twitter is, do you?
Nor do you have ANY CLUE what you were just looking at, do you?
Thought not.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
at anyone actually believing that any of this offseason nonsense / suspensions / etc have an impact on the league as a whole or the brand. I seriously don't understand how anyone could really believe that. None of it matters at all to the league.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
I am very familiar with Twitter, and aware that your link is a timeline of a search of "josh gordon".
If I am mistaken, please correct me and teach me the ways of Twitter.
Next time you want to prove your point you should put a link of a google search for "josh gordon". That would show me.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
So, every minute of every day, folks (regular folks, not all NFL junkies) are talking about josh gordon.
but he's a nobody?
k
I just love me some guys like you in my league that discount Gordon, because he doesn't try hard in, ... Practice.
Coach is saying all the right things, it's just a dance. Gordon is his best player, and everyone knows it.
cstu
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Let's be honest.
It doesn't matter if Josh Gordon tells Pettine to "f off" in practice. IF he gets off (or gets less than a year), he will be starting at WR for the Cleveland Browns the first chance he can.
There's no sense in arguing that point (but we will, b/c that is what this thread seems to be for.)
Soulfly3
Footballguy
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
I didn't realize you were able to classify every person who mentioned Josh Gordon between regular folks or NFL junkies simply based on their tweet. Amazing.
Are you aware of the population of the United States and the number of twitter users and those who talk about Josh Gordon? The % is absolutely miniscule.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Listen, you can ignore the fact that his name is blowing up on Twitter, and has been for ages.
If that fits your agenda, cool.
But you look like a chump thinking noone knows who he is.
Maven
Footballguy
Saw this comment on another board that makes sense:
There has not been, nor will there be, negotiation because either the NFL voids the suspension based on secondhand smoke, inconsistent testing procedures, faulty equipment, etc., or an Ohio state court voids the suspension because Gordon did not fail a drug test under Ohio law. I think the NFL would just prefer to keep this out of state court.
Either way, Gordon plays the entire season. And no, Gordon does not then get suspended for the DUI. That gets plead down to reckless driving and have yet to hear of a first-time offender under the personal conduct policy getting suspended for a reckless driving citation.
There has not been, nor will there be, negotiation because either the NFL voids the suspension based on secondhand smoke, inconsistent testing procedures, faulty equipment, etc., or an Ohio state court voids the suspension because Gordon did not fail a drug test under Ohio law. I think the NFL would just prefer to keep this out of state court.
Either way, Gordon plays the entire season. And no, Gordon does not then get suspended for the DUI. That gets plead down to reckless driving and have yet to hear of a first-time offender under the personal conduct policy getting suspended for a reckless driving citation.
cstu
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I must have missed all the "NFL Cares Three Times More About Smoking Weed Than Spouse Beating" headlines when Rice was suspended for two games shortly after Will Hill was suspended for 6 games under the substance abuse policy.Yeah,
"NFL Wants to be Paid for Superbowl Halftime Show"
is worse than
"NFL Cares More About Weed Smoking than Spouse Beating"
or
"Hitting a Bong = 16 Game Suspension, Hitting your Fiancee = 2 Game Suspension."
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Just because you like Josh Gordon and are a big NFL fan does not mean everyone else is. Keep living in your Josh Gordon world and assuming everyone is like you.
massraider
Footballguy
He failed a drug test under NFL rules. Ohio law is nice and all, but not relevant, which is why that comment does NOT make sense. I really doubt Gordon is the first guy to ever BARELY fail a test. Only a guess on my part, I admit.
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massraider
Footballguy
Hey:
Arguing about how many people know who Josh Gordon is has about run its course, wouldn't you say?
Arguing about how many people know who Josh Gordon is has about run its course, wouldn't you say?
Dismattle
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
LawFitz
Footballguy
Let's also be done arguing the Ray Rice angle.
1. The further away we get from Rice's suspension, the less it factors.
2. Barring an unlikely league office insider leak, we'll never know who was actually right about this issue.
Both sides have reasoned their case to death at this point and the argument has become painfully circular.
1. The further away we get from Rice's suspension, the less it factors.
2. Barring an unlikely league office insider leak, we'll never know who was actually right about this issue.
Both sides have reasoned their case to death at this point and the argument has become painfully circular.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Really don't want to get in the middle of a really dumb argument, but you might wanna edit that post, Bazinga, because it reads like you think the NFL doesn't really think much of Twitter.
Twitter is a monster. And every league, in fact every business with a public profile knows EXACTLY is happening on Twitter.
Twitter is a monster. And every league, in fact every business with a public profile knows EXACTLY is happening on Twitter.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
Your headlnies are fantasy. How many times does this need to be said?Yeah,
"NFL Wants to be Paid for Superbowl Halftime Show"
is worse than
"NFL Cares More About Weed Smoking than Spouse Beating"
or
"Hitting a Bong = 16 Game Suspension, Hitting your Fiancee = 2 Game Suspension."
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
The "can you think of the headlines" guy is trying hard to cook something up, but nothing is there.
DaveGrumbles
Footballguy
This is a faulty argument because it assumes twitter exists in a vacuum. Its not necessarily the response on twitter that's significant, it's the mainstream media's obsession with reporting the response on twitter that makes "twitter blowing up" significant.
mvereb
Footballguy
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 1h
#browns wr josh Gordon is out here practicing, still awaiting word on his suspension
#browns wr josh Gordon is out here practicing, still awaiting word on his suspension
Khy
Footballguy
Exactly. Twitter matters because you can't name a NFL professional who isn't active on twitter. And you'd probably be hard pressed to find one who isn't talking about Josh Gordon. The mainstream media uses it beyond all belief. Twitter is just a confirmation of what everyone is saying which is that Josh Gordon is a more household name than people think.
grateful zed
Footballguy
before they had medical cards, you never got popped once by your parents, teachers, concert security, pastor, etc.?
