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WR Josh Gordon, KC (10 Viewers)
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Bobcat10
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shoecrew22
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SameSongNDance
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Rick James
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My league hasn't updated yet. I just want to go to bed knowing if I got him or not so I can dream about all the money I will be making.
shadyridr
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i drafted him with ALL of my 8 first round picks
Nah. This was my worst team of the bunch. By far. Figured he was worth the gamble. The other leagues I went alot less which means I won't get him in any I'm sure. I drafted him in 1 at least
The General
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pennystock
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Only one of my leagues has updated so far, but one guy spent $990 combined for Forsett/Burns. Paul Niles went in that same league for $312, which seems crazy to me.
Did u bid on him for your IV team? If so, I can tell u right now if u have a chance.
pennystock
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I did but I don't have a chance. I was hoping folks wouldn't be going all in because there is still uncertainty, but I guess not based on what I've read here.
SameSongNDance
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Well, I got him for $902 in both fpc championship leagues. My first reaction "big mistake or huge mistake?".
pennystock
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Wow, got him for $703 in my 3rd league. Guess not everyone was all in! Can't believe over 70% of my budget seems cheap. 
Really hope he gets reinstated, lol.
Really hope he gets reinstated, lol.DepthCharts
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i bid 420$ for him in FFPC. i need a cookie now
pennystock
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Ugh, got him in both leagues he was available in. Now he's definitely out for the year.
SameSongNDance
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This really is a win/win if youre in PPCS leagues.
Sol D
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I'm in 4 FFPC leagues. The first was on 8/14 and he was grabbed in the 10th round. Two last week I grabbed him in the 19th round. My other league I totally forgot about him and took Andre Roberts in round 20. I just got him in that league for $956. OUCH! So I have him in 3 of 4 leagues so he is sure to miss the whole season.
Looks like with the new FFPC site you can't see what others bid on him and I am curious how much I over bid.
Looks like with the new FFPC site you can't see what others bid on him and I am curious how much I over bid.
shoecrew22
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Can we take this from Assistant coach back to Shark pool?
SameSongNDance
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Judging from some of the leagues I've see, likely ~$200 as some "experts" were recommending 70-80% of the budget.
TwinTurbo
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Sol D
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Not the proper thread but I got Niles Paul, not Paul Niles for $3, so yes $312 is insane.
tombonneau
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Wow I'm shocked at the amount of FAAB $$$ being thrown around for Gordon. I was happy to pick him up for free on opening night, but spending this kind of $$$ seems a bit reckless.
But it has me thinking I should at least float out some crazy trade offers to see if someone bites.
But it has me thinking I should at least float out some crazy trade offers to see if someone bites.
dagwood
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az_prof
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That's pretty typical in negotiations. It can be a ruse by one side to force the other side toward an agreement in first parties' favor. Or, it could be a way of signalling that certain issues are non-negotiable. And at a certain point, you want to do your job and you will wait until off season to negotiate because it becomes a distraction.
I am skeptical that there is an agreement anytime soon because there are some big issues here.
tombonneau
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I thought this was going to be Gordon highlight, but you, good sir, made my night.
rockaction
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shoecrew22
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We start 32 receivers in my 5 team league. I have Brown's Smith's Washington's Johnson's Williams's out the wazoooooooooo
SaintsInDome2006
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This is what I concluded last night. Rog & the NFL need a "win". - Not just with the public, the waters have been poisoned with the players.
SaintsInDome2006
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It's pretty amazing how this keeps progressing, now the discussion is how many games he plays, not if he plays. I originally was hoping or expecting 8 games from Gordon (which I would have been very happy with, honestly who are you spending your FAAB budget on in week 9 that will have this much impact?), but now I'm thinking Rog & Co. would like to get out of Dodge with a W and just not talk about suspensions for a while.
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BassNBrew
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Still confused here. Reinstating a guy busted for duo is going to resonate well with the public?
I Am the Stig
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It is more about the tolerance level of the test. I had no idea, until now, how much lower it is than even for the Olympics. Also, considering the decriminalization the NFL might as well be shouting "Get off my lawn!!!"
BassNBrew
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I want
People who aren't personally interested in this (ffer's, hard core NFL fans, etc) aren't going to care if the NFL threshold is much lower than the Olympics.
From a publicity standpoint, the general public is going to see the NFL allowing players who WERE suspended for drug use allowed back before their suspensions are up. IMO, most of the general public won't care about this, but they definitely aren't going to go "well the NFL is completely ###-backwards with regards to important issues like domestic abuse, but at least they understand that players should be able to smoke a little bit of weed, and use amphetamines in the off-season, so I guess I'm satisfied."
That's just an absurd conclusion to try to draw, and just another example of Gordon-ites going to ridiculous lengths to try to find substance to their belief that Gordon will be allowed to play in 2014.
If this policy gets changed, and if the new policy is applied retroactively, it's not b/c the NFL wants Gordon back on the field, and it's not because the NFL needs a public image "win;" it's because they wanted to get the HGH testing in, and lifting the suspensions was one of the concessions they had to make.
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shadyridr
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the win is hgh testing
As already stated, that's not a "publicity" win.
The general public doesn't care if NFL players are tested for HGH.
The general public isn't going to say "the NFL is weak on domestic abuse, but they are getting tough on HGH, so it's all good."
HGH testing isn't going to counter-act the negative publicity of the Rice situation.
I agree - the whole Ray Rice scenario has consumed the audience's attention, and nothing will be gained, from a PR perspective, to getting this deal done.
I now am beginning to think the only way this gets done, is if the players get significant concessions from the owners on the testing/punishment issue. The owners, would probably be best served to table discussions until a time when they, and the commissioner's office, are less vulnerable, and less distracted than they are right now. Doing any kind of deal right now seems like bad business.
I now am beginning to think the only way this gets done, is if the players get significant concessions from the owners on the testing/punishment issue. The owners, would probably be best served to table discussions until a time when they, and the commissioner's office, are less vulnerable, and less distracted than they are right now. Doing any kind of deal right now seems like bad business.
meanjoegreen
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Potential changes aren't being made for the audience. A scandal shouldn't keep an organization from conducting business.
On a major deal, that deserves the undivided attention of the parties to the deal, making a decision while distracted is bad business - it leads to less than an optimal deal, either because the commissioner's office, or the NFL owners, are distracted, or feeling pressure from the players caused by the scandal.
Time is not of the essence for this deal - it has been in the works for 3 years already - so rushing through a less-than-optimal deal at this point seems foolhardy.
ETA - I have Gordon, and really want the deal to go through, but I am becoming less optimistic as the Rice Investigation scandal gains momentum.
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The point is that recently, a number of posters (most seem to be Gordon owners) are suggesting that the NFL NEED to get this deal done, as a publicity "WIN" to counteract the negative pub they've gotten recently with the Rice situation. They're using this as support for their belief that the NFL will give in to the NFLPA and allow suspended players to have their suspension lifted under a new policy.
The fact is that a new drug policy isn't going to counter-act the bad press they've gotten from the Rice situation, so that's just a ridiculous argument.
The two sides don't seem like they are agreeing on the key issues, and the belief that the NFL will cave for some "good press" doesn't make sense.
