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WR Josh Gordon, KC (16 Viewers)
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tombonneau
Footballguy
As a new member this is troublesome. Soulfly, False Start and MassRaider have ruinded this thread or are the reason for every bickering session almost.
You all are embarrassing yourself guys. This is a shame, all three of you fighting like children.
Soulfly, please stop making it seem as if you knew something others didnt. It is pretty well documented that you have not been very accurate and when you are challenged you troll others to get a rise. Who shares PMs from others on the site? If that isnt classless, regardless of what was said, what is?
False Start, let it go. Man do you destroy every thread with your opinion. We get it, you know all about everything, thanks for sharing. Please stop now.
MassRaider - Why are you even involved in trying to encourage them two and their dispute? What benefit is it to you. Are we supposed to think you are something of a great contributor because you are trying to anger others intentionally?
Mods, please get a grip on this because I see very few speaking up against this type of issues and I am starting to believe it is the norm. I do feel its ironic from what I read that Soulfly comes back from a suspension and immediately starts to antagonize others, with a little help from others.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
He is really gonna help people in the playoffs. If you managed to get him at dirt cheap, nice job. 
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Looking forward to the discussion of JG with Hoyer vs Manziel.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Who do you think benefits Gordon more? or vice versa, who do you think Gordon helps more?
I think if Gordon is int he Lineup, Hoyer will be a more than good enough QB, with Manziel, I think it will be forced too much.
massraider
Footballguy
This has been 180 ages of people going after Soulfly, and I am happy for Gordon, and love that ONE GUY kept believing, and frankly, deserves a bow. People were piling on him for a long time, I love that he's happy. One poster came in to let us know how he didn't care and how Soulfly wasn't REALLY right. Guys like that get made fun of, especially when they have the history he does.
As a new member this is troublesome. Soulfly, False Start and MassRaider have ruinded this thread or are the reason for every bickering session almost.
You all are embarrassing yourself guys. This is a shame, all three of you fighting like children.
Soulfly, please stop making it seem as if you knew something others didnt. It is pretty well documented that you have not been very accurate and when you are challenged you troll others to get a rise. Who shares PMs from others on the site? If that isnt classless, regardless of what was said, what is?
False Start, let it go. Man do you destroy every thread with your opinion. We get it, you know all about everything, thanks for sharing. Please stop now.
MassRaider - Why are you even involved in trying to encourage them two and their dispute? What benefit is it to you. Are we supposed to think you are something of a great contributor because you are trying to anger others intentionally?
Mods, please get a grip on this because I see very few speaking up against this type of issues and I am starting to believe it is the norm. I do feel its ironic from what I read that Soulfly comes back from a suspension and immediately starts to antagonize others, with a little help from others.
Beyond that, if you think my stuff was out of line, report it. Otherwise, get out of Soulfly's way, sir.
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
I Am the Stig
Footballguy
Also true.
Of course we are all also assuming that the 8 banned games are for his current suspension. It could actually be 4 games for Pot and 4 games for the DUI arrest?
Either way , the league likely has leeway in how they wish to apply any rule changes to Gordon's circumstances.
In fact reduced in half could be because that is what would happen to Welker essentially if they don't pass this week. He would have effectively served two of his four games.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Really hope it's less.
I'll take the 8, happily. But gotta think the NFLPA is gonna make this work even better than that.
fingers crossed
patrickmcgroin
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I refuse to track back through this thread, is an 8-game suspension all but guaranteed at this point?
Bobcat10
Footballguy
It only makes sense if it's less than 8 unless the DUI is worked in (which is not how the NFL works regarding DUI). Can't wait for the reasoning behind a reduction to 8 games when others are getting ~75% reduction (unless nobody suspended plays until week 3).
Bobcat10
Footballguy
It's coming from a Schefter tweet essentially. I think the only guarantee right now is a reduction if this vote passes today.
massraider
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 1h
One thing that's important to remember: Not ALL drug-policy suspensions will be lifted. Only the ones that fall in line with the new rules.
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Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 1h... Again, the NFLPA won't put anything to a vote w/o knowing the 32 player reps will pass it convincingly. So their discussion is relevant.
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Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 1hNFLPA conference call on NFL drug-policy proposal -- which arrived late yesterday -- is set for late afternoon. They're expected to vote.
shoecrew22
Footballguy
WHY I NO ON YO LIST NOOBIE?!
As a new member this is troublesome. Soulfly, False Start and MassRaider have ruinded this thread or are the reason for every bickering session almost.
You all are embarrassing yourself guys. This is a shame, all three of you fighting like children.
Soulfly, please stop making it seem as if you knew something others didnt. It is pretty well documented that you have not been very accurate and when you are challenged you troll others to get a rise. Who shares PMs from others on the site? If that isnt classless, regardless of what was said, what is?
False Start, let it go. Man do you destroy every thread with your opinion. We get it, you know all about everything, thanks for sharing. Please stop now.
MassRaider - Why are you even involved in trying to encourage them two and their dispute? What benefit is it to you. Are we supposed to think you are something of a great contributor because you are trying to anger others intentionally?
Mods, please get a grip on this because I see very few speaking up against this type of issues and I am starting to believe it is the norm. I do feel its ironic from what I read that Soulfly comes back from a suspension and immediately starts to antagonize others, with a little help from others.
top dog
Footballguy
yeah, but at this point they have agreed on 16 games, 0 games, 16 games, 10 games and now 8 games... Until it is official.... Well, we really have no idea.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Yeah, my one thought (waaayyy back when at draft time) was that Manziel's mobility might allow Gordon time to break free deep pretty often. Manziel and Evans pulled that constantly at A&M.
We know Hoyer and JG can connect too.
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skinsrule05
Footballguy
This!! I don't know why False is so mad. It shows maturity to acknowledge when someone is right and you were wrong. Soulfly made a good call and deserves recognition for it.
massraider
Footballguy
shoecrew22
Footballguy
I was really hoping for immediate play time...with my RBs I wanted to flip Gordon for an elite RB to balance my team....
waiting 8 games for him to play in my flex or trade him at that point, while is great value since I got him off WW in a redraft....it still hurts because if my RBs dont defining who they are I could be screwed by then...
waiting 8 games for him to play in my flex or trade him at that point, while is great value since I got him off WW in a redraft....it still hurts because if my RBs dont defining who they are I could be screwed by then...
Mort is a pretty reputable guy, and he said that Gordon will be reinstated immediately. So I'm still holding out hope that we get the best possible outcome.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
The shark move is to trade him in redraft. Too much of a mess personally and too much uncertainty as to how he will play upon two months off. He can't practice right?
I'll consider him a high end WR3 and hope he hits his stride for the playoffs if I don't get a price I like. I'm hoping someone over pays for him though
I'll consider him a high end WR3 and hope he hits his stride for the playoffs if I don't get a price I like. I'm hoping someone over pays for him though
Soulfly3
Footballguy
because it's a fun thread.
ups and downs.
highs and lows.
if we didnt take extreme sides, this thread would be boring like the rest of em
massraider
Footballguy
I wonder. I don't think the NFL really cares too much about Gordon. So I was trying to think of a reason why they would be adamant about him still serving 8 games.
There was a tweet earlier that other players that tested positive and were suspended in 2013 would look for revisions. Maybe the 8 game suspension is part of a way to combat that??
Maybe because he was already in the program?
I dunno.
massraider
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Gordon is now 86% owned in CBS. That's up from 83% yesterday and 78% the day before. Anyone know if any of the major sites show the progress of ownership numbers? I would like to know how much (what %) he was owned before Week 1 vs now.
lod01
Footballguy
Exactly how I saw it....I didn't care if he got back or not, he's like "juggling chainsaws" as another poster said. I dealt him away. And I'm in a dynasty league. I just don't believe that he can stay out of trouble.
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JGs level wer so low that it may have just been a contact buzz and he may not hyave even smoked it...
Wait what????? What were the levels??? You mean like he could be saying it was just second hand smoke??? Link?
This thread should be studied in classes on social media culture and dynamics.
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massraider
Footballguy
Two hours ago, from Shefter:
dam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 2h
When a new drug policy is approved as early as this afternoon, Josh Gordon's suspension expected to be reduced to 8 games, per source.
What am I missing? The Schefter tweet? That's not just another tweet about how Gordon's suspension may be reduced? Meanwhile Mort is saying he'll be reinstated immediately? I don't understand what's real information that we didn't have yesterday. We already knew he might be reduced or reinstated.
shoecrew22
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Mary Kay Cabot:
The bolded is what I was looking for. 8 games doesn't seem to fit in with current (soon to be former?) rules, so a negotiation regarding Gordon only seems to make sense.
massraider
Footballguy
Definitely true, but when Shefter kind of makes a stand/call, I feel like he's usually got the goods.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
VaTerp
Footballguy
You're right. Soulfly's return is the only reason in the explosion of confidence. Not the multiple reports from credible NFL reporters that a NFLPA vote will take place this afternoon to pass a deal with 8 games being the consensus number that Gordon's suspension will be reduced to.
It's just soulfly and no new info has come about today. Carry on.
Yup, he's being suspended 8 games for testing positive to insignificant levels of an innocuous substance, whereas Welker is granted amnesty despite being popped for a drug that can cause brain damage and even death.
