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Ignoratio Elenchi

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Here are very unofficial standings - done with manual scoring this week. As always, don't get too excited if you like your standings, or bummed if you don't, as these numbers are very subject to change. Most importantly - don't go spending any money you might not get if I'm wrong!!! :)Posted list as spoiler to limit scrolling issues:

Rank	Team	W14	Wk 15	Wk 16	Total	Week 15 rank1	103607	228	220.3	226.85	675.15	12	101381	203.1	232.55	214.4	650.05	53	100424	210.7	226.7	209.65	647.05	44	108541	230.1	214	201.25	645.35	25	102602	225.7	182.45	228.75	636.9	196	107848	218.5	203.1	215.25	636.85	87	110343	233	189	214.25	636.25	78	106779	198	209.3	226.75	634.05	229	108068	244.25	196	192.55	632.8	310	102245	201.8	194.85	236.1	632.75	4011	110101	204.9	202.8	223.65	631.35	2112	102544	221.1	178.35	230.4	629.85	3413	105813	224.6	206	195.25	625.85	614	107390	238.8	181.45	199.9	620.15	1115	108931	200.2	198.2	220.45	618.85	3716	107823	224.05	193.75	198.9	616.7	1317	103792	212.6	205.05	198.7	616.35	1418	101509	222.9	186.95	206.35	616.2	1619	108903	231.95	189	193.6	614.55	1020	108858	224.85	196.5	190.25	611.6	921	105886	212.6	196.9	201.75	611.25	1822	104480	181.2	184.5	245.05	610.75	11723	100473	191.7	192.6	226.4	610.7	7224	102123	208.5	201.1	200.85	610.45	1725	107673	215.8	202.8	190.45	609.05	1226	102991	204.1	187.7	216.25	608.05	5627	111230	167.7	221.85	217.9	607.45	6228	106524	218.9	175.4	210.35	604.65	4929	108703	191.3	194.5	218.45	604.25	7130	103995	215.5	188.9	198.45	602.85	2731	103722	194.55	206.35	201	601.9	3232	103222	198.95	195.05	207.7	601.7	5233	109420	191.05	202.55	206.6	600.2	5334	108779	200.4	177.7	221.85	599.95	8635	108645	191	174.5	234.25	599.75	11836	105258	213.2	185.55	200.45	599.2	3537	109201	179	210.95	209.1	599.05	6138	106571	193.45	189.15	216.4	599	7439	106025	220	181.2	197.25	598.45	3140	103005	219.5	187.3	190.95	597.75	2541	110378	206.3	189.1	202.15	597.55	4642	111711	185.3	202.6	209.05	596.95	6643	105139	204.9	158.8	233.15	596.85	12444	109338	214.1	187.8	194.55	596.45	3045	109009	203.15	192.85	199.1	595.1	4346	100960	180.5	172.25	241.9	594.65	15547	108337	218.7	176.65	198.3	593.65	4748	100228	185.7	214.45	193	593.15	3349	107040	209.3	184.9	198.25	592.45	5050	102087	211.8	195.3	184.25	591.35	2351	108724	187	206.3	197.45	590.75	5452	109726	193.9	196.2	200.45	590.55	6053	106675	190.2	172.15	227.5	589.85	13054	108241	182.05	167.45	240	589.5	16455	109096	220.1	187.6	181.05	588.75	2056	101076	206.6	189.4	192.65	588.65	4257	100476	217.6	171.9	198.35	587.85	6458	107074	192.1	168.7	226.95	587.75	13459	104653	179.85	200.35	207.3	587.5	8060	112441	173.9	187.1	226.25	587.25	13361	108220	158.75	196.65	230.7	586.1	14762	112149	198.8	199.45	187.75	586	3863	104164	196.6	207.9	181.15	585.65	2664	102335	218.8	184	182.75	585.55	2865	101466	223.3	175.45	185.85	584.6	3666	105791	200.85	209.75	174	584.6	1567	111785	164.6	209.75	209	583.35	9568	101933	210.4	181.3	191.35	583.05	5769	102869	195.4	164.1	220.75	580.25	14270	111694	161.5	196.6	222.05	580.15	14371	100279	193	185.8	200.85	579.65	8372	107945	215.5	172.05	191.4	578.95	6873	109543	193.9	192	192.45	578.35	7074	100374	201.1	174.8	202.05	577.95	9175	107353	209.1	165	202.95	577.05	9676	107252	179.1	218.95	178.9	576.95	3977	102341	226.9	169.5	179.95	576.35	4178	102719	195	175.6	205.55	576.15	10479	102283	180.4	200.65	194.1	575.15	7980	113101	194.6	187.7	192.75	575.05	7581	102931	201.8	156	216.5	574.3	14482	101368	216.7	185.45	172	574.15	2983	100283	192.15	203.55	177.8	573.5	4584	105386	186.7	173.3	213.45	573.45	13885	108467	166.65	185.85	220.4	572.9	15686	103128	178.8	189	204.85	572.65	11387	101115	193.3	193.1	185.65	572.05	6988	106051	195.8	200	176	571.8	4489	107433	193.7	188.3	189.45	571.45	7690	110509	171.2	171.8	228.45	571.45	18491	101269	177.6	198.2	195.45	571.25	9292	105250	194.5	179.4	197.25	571.15	9793	101557	159.6	178.8	232.65	571.05	19294	104639	185	207.6	178.05	570.65	5595	102502	192.75	158.3	218.75	569.8	16196	102353	205.2	182.55	181.9	569.65	6797	102783	200	163.7	205.55	569.25	12598	104127	163.7	177.85	227.5	569.05	18699	105669	175.9	183.85	208.95	568.7	139100	103993	159.9	211.55	196.2	567.65	102101	110936	171.2	197.1	199.05	567.35	109102	102065	183.5	189.6	194.2	567.3	99103	100001	192.9	176.25	198	567.15	106104	111984	199.6	172.9	194.55	567.05	101105	104492	189.6	184	193.35	566.95	98106	107343	184.1	184.35	198.1	566.55	108107	112064	199.1	191.05	176.35	566.5	58108	107776	195.7	164.85	205.75	566.3	136109	100362	187.9	178.65	199.4	565.95	114110	108954	169.2	220.35	175.9	565.45	63111	109157	189.6	189.55	186.25	565.4	82112	110179	209.3	169.5	186.5	565.3	84113	111578	184.6	167.15	213.1	564.85	159114	107490	190.1	175.2	199.35	564.65	119115	109414	171.8	183.4	209	564.2	149116	110763	168.6	178.2	217.15	563.95	172117	103402	186.3	182.6	194.75	563.65	107118	104282	179.4	188.4	195.85	563.65	112119	100171	205.65	184.45	173.1	563.2	59120	101671	187.5	190.3	184.85	562.65	88121	111497	182.75	190.05	189.4	562.2	100122	105186	176.6	169.5	214.45	560.55	176123	102438	182.75	178.75	198.7	560.2	132124	103140	211.5	195.3	153.15	559.95	24125	109150	208.1	186.4	165.4	559.9	48126	100669	195.1	198.9	165.7	559.7	51127	101426	178.6	187.75	193.3	559.65	116128	102388	183.4	169.6	205.55	558.55	153129	103937	185.6	178.75	193.65	558	122130	103409	166.4	195.9	195.65	557.95	131131	108070	192.6	178.6	185.15	556.35	103132	110287	187.5	190.45	178.3	556.25	87133	100254	195.8	155.9	204.45	556.15	160134	107331	189.2	174.45	192.3	555.95	126135	106291	179.4	173.4	202.45	555.25	154136	110705	162	176.8	215.65	554.45	191137	101349	186.2	162.8	205.15	554.15	165138	106677	190.6	177.6	184.45	552.65	111139	100153	181.6	196.8	174	552.4	85140	104450	196.5	142.4	212.65	551.55	190141	105752	197.4	147.15	206.75	551.3	181142	107885	204.1	173.3	173.45	550.85	89143	107469	180.4	179.9	190.55	550.85	137144	107284	191.9	190.8	167.65	550.35	73145	105019	160.3	172.6	217.25	550.15	204146	102742	149.35	190.25	210.5	550.1	188147	103548	189.8	163.3	196.55	549.65	152148	104197	163.7	173.1	212.75	549.55	196149	108440	182.6	199.25	167.55	549.4	78150	108355	183.9	169.8	195.65	549.35	151151	102664	196.35	167.15	185.4	548.9	127152	106406	208.85	155.8	184	548.65	121153	112373	172.2	202.35	173.45	548	93154	100897	202	179.85	166.1	547.95	77155	109863	198.1	176.35	170.9	545.35	94156	109451	171.7	165.85	207.3	544.85	194157	108818	195.4	172.8	175.45	543.65	110158	103120	210.4	166.2	167.05	543.65	90159	107303	175.8	168.7	198.95	543.45	182160	108639	180	171.9	191.35	543.25	158161	105440	198.7	157.85	186.55	543.1	145162	104737	186.4	173.15	183.2	542.75	140163	101829	198.2	150.7	193.75	542.65	166164	104408	222.3	165.75	154.45	542.5	65165	108029	158.5	174.4	209.45	542.35	205166	113154	199.1	164.75	177.95	541.8	123167	102858	189.8	158.2	193.15	541.15	168168	108511	203.35	163	174.75	541.1	115169	104720	187.45	174.95	178.25	540.65	129170	111742	166.9	175.3	197.85	540.05	185171	105725	181.1	189.5	169.45	540.05	105172	100444	188.65	157.85	193.5	540	174173	111617	173.5	173.8	192.25	539.55	170174	109181	175.6	171.45	192.35	539.4	171175	107936	142.05	179.25	218	539.3	227176	101386	187.1	175.85	175.85	538.8	128177	111359	178.85	149.8	210.15	538.8	214178	108482	147.9	187.3	203.05	538.25	199179	110884	176.1	179.4	182.65	538.15	146180	108638	159.05	167.7	209.15	535.9	217181	101167	181	198.65	155.8	535.45	81182	105463	180.5	151.2	203.65	535.35	207183	100752	179.3	144.7	210.75	534.75	222184	105881	195.9	164.75	171.65	532.3	135185	108986	172.8	158.2	200.65	531.65	209186	112709	167.6	165.6	197.45	530.65	203187	101952	199.4	134.5	196.55	530.45	201188	112015	162.55	164.45	202.6	529.6	216189	105459	176.9	153.7	197.95	528.55	212190	106327	161.9	158.9	207.05	527.85	229191	110284	175.3	168.7	182.55	526.55	183192	103171	180.9	156.2	189.05	526.15	195193	103845	169.8	156.7	199.15	525.65	218194	109455	161.65	160.15	202.5	524.3	226195	109415	169.7	180.25	173.75	523.7	162196	104246	181.6	164.45	177.5	523.55	177197	109653	198.5	156.9	167.65	523.05	148198	111026	176.7	169.4	176.75	522.85	175199	103459	147.8	163.1	210.25	521.15	237200	102148	148.9	165.1	207.1	521.1	234201	108915	145.5	185.15	190.3	520.95	211202	109769	175.2	158.25	186.75	520.2	202203	107016	181.6	172.85	165.7	520.15	150204	102367	194.6	164.9	160.35	519.85	141205	106487	150.3	170.6	197.25	518.15	228206	111499	181.15	167.55	168.3	517	167207	109448	157.6	168.6	189.35	515.55	219208	105522	146.5	164.4	204.15	515.05	236209	105201	164.2	157.65	192.9	514.75	225210	102808	178.5	173.75	161.1	513.35	157211	108765	159.8	189.85	163	512.65	163212	106253	165.35	166.05	180.65	512.05	208213	105092	201.5	163.2	147.25	511.95	120214	100221	136.2	165.15	210.3	511.65	243215	107613	174.6	154.5	181.75	510.85	213216	105279	167.45	170.65	172.1	510.2	193217	110057	173.4	174.05	162.2	509.65	169218	109500	160.8	185.85	162.8	509.45	173219	111978	167.9	163.95	177.35	509.2	206220	101299	177	157.35	174.15	508.5	200221	106705	159.2	164.25	183.3	506.75	223222	101288	153.3	185.85	167.1	506.25	189223	109974	176.25	168.95	160.5	505.7	179224	103889	150.4	170	185.25	505.65	230225	110739	171	165	168.05	504.05	198226	101264	165.2	158.9	179.3	503.4	221227	108347	156.25	141.55	205	502.8	245228	108977	144.8	170.95	185.45	501.2	233229	110503	148.95	174.2	176.95	500.1	224230	110643	197.95	132.9	167.55	498.4	210231	110553	163.2	181.6	153.25	498.05	180232	107822	170.8	149	175.25	495.05	231233	101088	149.95	142.35	201	493.3	247234	104130	194.15	142.3	156.55	493	197235	109373	146.95	154.7	187.95	489.6	242236	104840	185.4	154.8	146.95	487.15	187237	100878	145.7	162	177.75	485.45	241238	109284	195.7	150	137.95	483.65	178239	106544	159.1	160.4	161.85	481.35	232240	104288	185.8	122.9	171.55	480.25	240241	111260	175.8	152.4	151.75	479.95	215242	108798	152.4	138.65	186.1	477.15	248243	111475	163.9	161.3	149.55	474.75	220244	107009	155.2	143.95	173.7	472.85	244245	106963	168.3	118.8	184.35	471.45	249246	100494	141.1	168.4	159.35	468.85	238247	109237	164.45	149.25	146.1	459.8	235248	101590	153	140.3	156.45	449.75	246249	112375	158.6	150.5	136.65	445.75	239250	109660	153.9	114.1	171.95	439.95	250251	112968	122.4	118	144.65	385.05	251
I think the 25 point lead should probably hold up for me :D , I came up with about the same scores where I was tracking the top 7 going into the week.Many thanks to kardplayer for running live cutlines and standings throughout the year. Props to OrganizedChaos for building the live scoring tool, which helped fuel our addiction for having updates.I also want to thank all the regular posters to this thread for helping advance the collective knowledge on contest strategies. I am sure I am missing some people, but Iggy, BassNBrew, QuizGuy, and Modog are 4 that come to mind immediately. And of course, FBG deserves major props for offering such an awesome contest as part of their subscription. :thanks:Congrats and you're welcome! Didn't hurt that I played chicken with the cutline almost every week...

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Congrats Cudz!!!

Notice the top finishers had 3 QBs this year but Cudz went with 2 and had the 3 K / 3 D approach.

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Congrats to Cudz and all the top 10. That was a lot of fun this year. I ended up making it to the top 250 and finished at 81. I think the contest would be even better if the prize money was spread out more among the top winners. A $15,000 or $10,000 first prize would still be awesome. After all, making it to the top 150 out of 13,000 plus people is still a pretty huge feat!

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Congrats Cudz!!!Notice the top finishers had 3 QBs this year but Cudz went with 2 and had the 3 K / 3 D approach.

3 lousy QBs were my undoing in weeks 15 and 16.

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Congrats to Cudz and all the top 10. That was a lot of fun this year. I ended up making it to the top 250 and finished at 81. I think the contest would be even better if the prize money was spread out more among the top winners. A $15,000 or $10,000 first prize would still be awesome. After all, making it to the top 150 out of 13,000 plus people is still a pretty huge feat!

Heh..., as the 10th place team I couldn't agree more. Going from $20,000 for first to $75 for tenth is kind of steep. Even worse is the drop from 5th ($1,000) to 10th ($75). I look back & see another TD sometime over the final 3 weeks would have moved me up to 5th. :wall: Ah well, it was fun & I didn't really start following it until late in the year.

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Congrats to Cudz and all the top 10. That was a lot of fun this year. I ended up making it to the top 250 and finished at 81. I think the contest would be even better if the prize money was spread out more among the top winners. A $15,000 or $10,000 first prize would still be awesome. After all, making it to the top 150 out of 13,000 plus people is still a pretty huge feat!

Heh..., as the 10th place team I couldn't agree more. Going from $20,000 for first to $75 for tenth is kind of steep. Even worse is the drop from 5th ($1,000) to 10th ($75). I look back & see another TD sometime over the final 3 weeks would have moved me up to 5th. :wall: Ah well, it was fun & I didn't really start following it until late in the year.
I was just thinking the same thing I came in 36th place out of like 13,000 people and I get $30 ?I would be thrilled if I won the thing and got $10,000. I think the other $10,000 should be spread over the top 100.Congrats to the winner well done.

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A very first look at what it takes to win - The top 5 entries had 25, 18, 26, 24, and 19 players/teams (which will henceforth be refered to as men or men weeks). Not much conclusive evidence as to optimum roster size. However, they do have some interesting stats. You have $250 to play with and 16 weeks of play (assuming that you go to the finals). This makes $3750 man/weeks for a full season after deducting $250 for bye weeks. What seems to be relevant to the success of the top five is relatively few significant zeroes (no score weeks excepting the byes).

A few terms which I will use need to be defined:

Zero weeks are those where a man scores nothing (and is not on a bye) multiplied by his salary.

Scoring weeks are those weeks where a man scores anything multiplied by his salary.

Efficiency is the percentage computed by dividing scoring weeks by the maximum of $3750.

The 1st team which had 25 men had $293 in zero weeks, or $3457 of scoring weeks which is 92.187% efficiency.

The 2nd team which had only 16 men had $116 in zero weeks, or $3633 of scoring weeks or 97.68% efficiency.

The 3rd team which had 26 men had $479 in zero weeks, or $3271 of scoring weeks or only 87.227% efficiency.

The 4th team which had 24 men had $312 in zero weeks, or $3438 of scoring weeks or 91.680% efficiency.

The 5th team which had 19 men had $269 in zero weeks, or $3481 of scoring weeks or 92.827% efficiency.

This sample is way too small to be conclusive of anything, but what it may indicate is that roster size is not a critical factor even though all previous research indicates that larger is better. The real reason larger is better is that smaller requires more luck on the injury front. Most zeroes are caused when guys do not play due to injury. So small roster size requires near perfect attendance on the field, witness the 2nd place team.

I am willing to bet that there would be a high inverse correlation between roster size and "efficiency" among those teams which made the final 250. That is, the smaller the roster size the greater the efficiency required and the larger the roster size the less efficiency needed to make the 250. As we all know you need to be good, but you also need to be lucky.

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I think $10k should be filtered down throughout anyone who makes the final 250. Even if you pay the top 100 and do a 1 year subscription for the other 150.

Either way, I'll be back next year. Great contest.

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Placed 8th this year, for $200. Another FG sometime in the last 3 weeks would have given a 5th place finish & $1K!

I think I won $30 on this contest once before, and was mailed a check.

Great contest - best perk of this site, IMO.

Thanks to Joe & David for continuing to offer this every year. :thumbup:

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Here are the final 250 standings with roster characteristics appended:

ENTRY	RANK	Wk 14	Wk 15	Wk 16	TOTAL	SIZE	QB	RB	WR	TE	PK	TD103607	1	228.00	220.30	226.85	675.15	25	2	7	7	3	3	3101381	2	203.10	232.55	214.40	650.05	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100424	3	210.70	226.70	209.65	647.05	26	3	8	9	2	2	2108541	4	230.10	214.00	201.25	645.35	24	3	5	8	3	2	3102602	5	225.70	182.45	228.75	636.90	19	2	5	6	2	2	2107848	6	218.50	203.10	215.25	636.85	23	3	5	6	3	3	3110343	7	233.00	189.00	214.25	636.25	24	3	5	7	2	3	4106779	8	198.00	209.30	226.75	634.05	27	3	7	8	3	3	3108068	9	244.25	196.00	192.55	632.80	23	3	6	6	2	3	3102245	10	201.80	193.85	236.10	631.75	20	2	6	6	2	2	2110101	11	204.90	202.80	223.65	631.35	25	3	6	6	4	3	3102544	12	221.10	177.35	230.40	628.85	24	3	6	7	2	3	3105813	13	224.60	206.00	195.25	625.85	20	3	5	6	2	2	2107390	14	238.80	181.45	199.90	620.15	23	3	7	5	2	3	3108931	15	200.20	198.20	220.45	618.85	27	3	7	9	3	3	2107823	16	224.05	193.75	198.90	616.70	23	3	5	6	3	3	3103792	17	212.60	205.05	198.70	616.35	21	2	6	6	3	2	2101509	18	222.90	186.95	206.35	616.20	18	2	5	4	3	2	2108903	19	231.95	189.00	193.60	614.55	23	3	6	7	3	2	2108858	20	224.85	196.50	190.25	611.60	21	3	5	6	3	2	2105886	21	212.60	196.90	201.75	611.25	22	3	6	5	2	3	3104480	22	181.20	184.50	245.05	610.75	21	2	6	7	2	2	2100473	23	191.70	192.60	226.40	610.70	22	2	6	6	2	3	3102123	24	208.50	201.10	200.85	610.45	24	3	6	7	3	3	2107673	25	215.80	202.80	190.45	609.05	18	2	4	5	2	3	2102991	26	204.10	187.70	216.25	608.05	30	3	10	8	3	3	3111230	27	167.70	221.85	217.90	607.45	18	2	3	7	2	2	2106524	28	218.90	175.40	210.35	604.65	19	3	4	6	2	2	2108703	29	191.30	194.50	218.45	604.25	24	3	5	6	4	3	3103995	30	215.50	188.90	198.45	602.85	23	3	6	6	3	2	3103222	31	198.95	194.05	208.60	601.60	20	3	7	4	2	2	2103722	32	194.55	205.35	201.00	600.90	18	2	4	5	3	2	2108779	33	200.40	177.70	221.85	599.95	23	2	5	6	3	3	4108645	34	191.00	174.50	234.25	599.75	18	2	3	6	3	2	2105258	35	213.20	185.55	200.45	599.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2109420	36	191.05	201.55	206.60	599.20	19	2	4	6	3	2	2109201	37	179.00	210.95	209.10	599.05	21	2	5	8	2	2	2106025	38	220.00	181.20	197.25	598.45	22	2	8	6	2	2	2106571	39	193.45	188.15	216.40	598.00	22	2	6	7	3	2	2103005	40	219.50	187.30	190.95	597.75	19	3	5	5	2	2	2110378	41	206.30	189.10	202.15	597.55	21	3	6	6	2	2	2111711	42	185.30	202.60	209.05	596.95	21	2	6	7	2	2	2105139	43	204.90	158.80	233.15	596.85	18	2	5	5	2	2	2109338	44	214.10	187.80	194.55	596.45	19	3	5	5	2	2	2100960	45	180.50	172.25	241.90	594.65	20	2	4	5	3	3	3109009	46	203.15	191.85	199.10	594.10	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100228	47	185.70	214.45	193.00	593.15	20	2	5	5	3	3	2108337	48	218.70	175.65	198.30	592.65	23	3	6	7	3	2	2107040	49	209.30	184.90	198.25	592.45	20	2	5	6	3	2	2102087	50	211.80	195.30	184.25	591.35	20	3	5	6	2	2	2108724	51	187.00	206.30	197.45	590.75	18	3	4	5	2	2	2109726	52	193.90	196.20	200.45	590.55	18	2	4	5	2	3	2106675	53	190.20	171.15	227.50	588.85	20	2	5	7	2	2	2109096	54	220.10	187.60	181.05	588.75	18	2	6	6	1	1	2101076	55	206.60	189.40	192.65	588.65	25	3	7	7	3	2	3108241	56	182.05	166.45	240.00	588.50	21	2	6	7	2	2	2108220	57	158.75	196.65	232.70	588.10	20	3	4	6	2	2	3100476	58	217.60	171.90	198.35	587.85	28	3	7	8	4	3	3107074	59	192.10	168.70	226.95	587.75	30	4	9	7	4	3	3112441	60	173.90	187.10	226.25	587.25	18	3	4	6	1	2	2104653	61	179.85	199.35	207.30	586.50	20	3	6	5	2	2	2112149	62	198.80	199.45	187.75	586.00	18	2	5	5	2	2	2102335	63	218.80	184.00	182.75	585.55	18	3	5	4	2	2	2101466	64	223.30	175.45	185.85	584.60	18	2	5	5	2	2	2105791	65	200.85	208.75	174.00	583.60	19	2	5	6	2	2	2104164	66	196.60	207.90	178.85	583.35	26	2	7	10	3	2	2101933	67	210.40	181.30	191.35	583.05	25	3	6	8	3	3	2111785	68	164.60	208.75	209.00	582.35	18	3	4	5	2	2	2102869	69	195.40	164.10	220.75	580.25	18	2	4	5	3	2	2111694	70	161.50	196.60	222.05	580.15	29	4	7	7	4	4	3100279	71	193.00	185.80	200.85	579.65	18	2	5	6	2	2	1107945	72	215.50	172.05	191.40	578.95	24	3	6	7	3	3	2100374	73	201.10	174.80	202.05	577.95	27	3	8	8	3	2	3107353	74	209.10	165.00	202.95	577.05	25	2	7	8	3	3	2107252	75	179.10	218.95	178.90	576.95	18	2	6	4	2	2	2102341	76	226.90	169.50	179.95	576.35	21	3	5	5	3	3	2102719	77	195.00	175.60	205.55	576.15	18	2	4	6	2	2	2102283	78	180.40	200.65	194.10	575.15	20	2	5	6	3	2	2113101	79	194.60	187.70	192.75	575.05	21	2	7	5	3	2	2102931	80	201.80	156.00	216.50	574.30	28	4	6	6	6	4	2101368	81	216.70	185.45	172.00	574.15	26	3	7	7	3	3	3105386	82	186.70	173.30	213.45	573.45	19	2	5	5	2	2	3103128	83	178.80	189.00	204.85	572.65	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100283	84	192.15	202.55	177.80	572.50	24	3	6	6	3	3	3101115	85	193.30	193.10	185.65	572.05	18	2	3	8	1	2	2108467	86	166.65	184.85	220.40	571.90	24	1	10	6	3	2	2106051	87	195.80	200.00	176.00	571.80	18	2	4	7	2	1	2110509	88	171.20	171.80	228.45	571.45	23	4	6	6	2	2	3101269	89	177.60	198.20	195.45	571.25	21	2	5	7	3	2	2105250	90	194.50	179.40	197.25	571.15	20	2	7	7	1	1	2101557	91	159.60	178.80	232.65	571.05	24	3	7	7	3	2	2109543	92	193.90	192.00	185.15	571.05	21	2	5	8	2	2	2104639	93	185.00	207.60	178.05	570.65	19	3	5	5	2	2	2102502	94	192.75	158.30	218.75	569.80	20	3	5	6	2	2	2102783	95	200.00	163.70	205.55	569.25	18	2	5	5	2	2	2104127	96	163.70	177.85	227.50	569.05	27	3	8	8	3	2	3105669	97	175.90	183.85	208.95	568.70	27	3	7	8	3	3	3103993	98	159.90	211.55	196.20	567.65	20	3	4	6	3	2	2110936	99	171.20	197.10	199.05	567.35	21	2	5	8	2	2	2102065	100	183.50	189.60	194.20	567.30	30	3	8	8	3	4	4111984	101	199.60	172.90	194.55	567.05	20	2	5	7	2	2	2104492	102	189.60	184.00	193.35	566.95	18	2	5	5	2	2	2112064	103	199.10	191.05	176.35	566.50	19	2	6	5	2	2	2107776	104	195.70	164.85	205.75	566.30	19	2	6	5	2	2	2109414	105	171.80	183.40	211.00	566.20	23	2	6	6	3	3	3100001	106	192.90	175.25	198.00	566.15	23	3	5	6	4	3	2102353	107	205.20	182.55	177.90	565.65	23	3	6	7	3	2	2107343	108	184.10	183.35	198.10	565.55	23	2	8	7	2	2	2109157	109	189.60	189.55	186.25	565.40	19	2	6	5	2	2	2110179	110	209.30	169.50	186.50	565.30	20	3	4	6	3	2	2111578	111	184.60	167.15	213.10	564.85	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100362	112	187.90	178.65	198.30	564.85	24	3	7	6	2	3	3107433	113	193.70	188.30	182.75	564.75	28	5	8	8	3	2	2107490	114	190.10	175.20	199.35	564.65	19	3	4	6	2	2	2108954	115	169.20	219.35	175.90	564.45	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110763	116	168.60	178.20	217.15	563.95	20	3	5	6	2	2	2103402	117	186.30	182.60	194.75	563.65	19	2	5	7	2	1	2104282	118	179.40	188.40	195.85	563.65	18	2	4	6	2	2	2100171	119	205.65	184.45	173.10	563.20	28	2	7	8	3	4	4101671	120	187.50	190.30	184.85	562.65	25	3	7	7	3	3	2111497	121	182.75	189.05	189.40	561.20	18	2	5	5	2	2	2105186	122	176.60	169.50	214.45	560.55	26	3	5	12	2	2	2100669	123	195.10	198.90	165.70	559.70	20	3	5	5	3	2	2102438	124	182.75	177.75	198.70	559.20	21	3	4	5	4	3	2101426	125	178.60	186.75	193.30	558.65	19	2	5	6	2	2	2102388	126	183.40	169.60	205.55	558.55	22	2	6	8	2	2	2103937	127	185.60	178.75	193.65	558.00	18	2	5	5	2	2	2103409	128	166.40	195.90	195.65	557.95	22	3	5	7	2	2	3109150	129	208.10	186.40	163.10	557.60	22	2	6	8	2	2	2108070	130	192.60	178.60	185.15	556.35	21	2	6	6	2	2	3110287	131	187.50	190.45	178.30	556.25	23	3	6	7	3	2	2100254	132	195.80	155.90	204.45	556.15	20	3	6	5	2	2	2106291	133	179.40	173.40	202.45	555.25	26	5	6	7	4	2	2107331	134	189.20	173.45	192.30	554.95	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110705	135	162.00	176.80	215.65	554.45	18	3	4	5	2	2	2101349	136	186.20	162.80	205.15	554.15	22	3	6	6	3	2	2107885	137	204.10	173.30	175.45	552.85	25	3	7	6	3	3	3103140	138	211.50	195.30	145.85	552.65	29	4	8	7	3	4	3106677	139	190.60	177.60	184.45	552.65	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100153	140	181.60	196.80	174.00	552.40	20	2	6	6	2	2	2104450	141	196.50	142.40	212.65	551.55	18	2	5	6	1	2	2105752	142	197.40	147.15	206.75	551.30	26	3	5	9	3	3	3107469	143	180.40	179.90	190.55	550.85	20	3	6	5	2	2	2106406	144	208.85	155.80	186.00	550.65	30	3	7	9	4	3	4107284	145	191.90	190.80	167.65	550.35	22	3	5	4	3	4	3105019	146	160.30	172.60	217.25	550.15	20	2	4	6	3	2	3103548	147	189.80	163.30	196.55	549.65	22	2	5	8	2	3	2104197	148	163.70	173.10	212.75	549.55	22	3	6	6	3	2	2108440	149	182.60	199.25	167.55	549.40	20	3	5	6	2	2	2108355	150	183.90	169.80	195.65	549.35	20	3	5	6	2	2	2102742	151	149.35	189.25	210.50	549.10	20	2	6	6	2	2	2102664	152	196.35	167.15	185.40	548.90	22	3	7	6	2	2	2112373	153	172.20	202.35	173.45	548.00	19	2	3	8	2	2	2100897	154	202.00	179.85	166.10	547.95	18	2	4	6	2	2	2108818	155	195.40	172.80	177.45	545.65	23	3	6	6	2	3	3109863	156	198.10	176.35	170.90	545.35	23	3	5	5	4	3	3109451	157	171.70	165.85	207.30	544.85	18	2	6	6	2	1	1103120	158	210.40	166.20	167.05	543.65	23	3	10	4	2	2	2107303	159	175.80	168.70	198.95	543.45	22	2	7	7	2	2	2108639	160	180.00	171.90	191.35	543.25	24	2	7	9	2	2	2105440	161	198.70	157.85	186.55	543.10	18	2	6	4	1	3	2104737	162	186.40	173.15	183.20	542.75	23	2	5	8	3	3	2101829	163	198.20	150.70	193.75	542.65	22	2	6	8	2	2	2104408	164	222.30	165.75	154.45	542.50	18	2	5	3	2	3	3108029	165	158.50	174.40	209.45	542.35	23	3	6	7	3	2	2113154	166	199.10	164.75	177.95	541.80	21	3	5	5	3	2	3102858	167	189.80	158.20	193.15	541.15	18	2	6	4	2	2	2108511	168	203.35	163.00	174.75	541.10	18	2	6	4	2	2	2104720	169	187.45	174.95	178.25	540.65	19	2	4	5	2	4	2105725	170	181.10	189.50	169.45	540.05	23	2	6	7	4	2	2111742	171	166.90	175.30	197.85	540.05	27	3	7	11	2	2	2111617	172	173.50	173.80	192.25	539.55	19	2	5	6	2	2	2109181	173	175.60	171.45	192.35	539.40	19	2	4	6	3	2	2100444	174	188.65	156.85	193.50	539.00	18	2	4	5	3	2	2101386	175	187.10	175.85	175.85	538.80	18	2	4	6	2	2	2111359	176	178.85	149.80	210.15	538.80	19	2	5	5	3	2	2107936	177	142.05	178.25	218.00	538.30	23	3	7	7	2	2	2108482	178	147.90	187.30	203.05	538.25	26	3	7	8	3	2	3110884	179	176.10	179.40	182.65	538.15	18	2	6	7	1	1	1105463	180	180.50	151.20	203.65	535.35	18	2	5	6	2	2	1100752	181	179.30	144.70	210.75	534.75	18	3	3	6	2	2	2101167	182	181.00	198.65	153.40	533.05	23	2	6	8	3	2	2105881	183	195.90	164.75	171.65	532.30	19	2	5	6	2	2	2108638	184	159.05	167.70	205.45	532.20	27	3	6	8	3	3	4108986	185	172.80	158.20	200.65	531.65	20	2	6	6	2	2	2112709	186	167.60	165.60	197.45	530.65	18	2	4	6	2	2	2101952	187	199.40	134.50	196.55	530.45	21	3	5	6	3	2	2112015	188	162.55	163.45	202.60	528.60	19	2	7	5	1	2	2109455	189	161.65	160.15	206.80	528.60	18	2	3	7	2	2	2105459	190	176.90	153.70	197.75	528.35	30	4	8	8	4	3	3106327	191	161.90	158.90	207.05	527.85	20	2	5	7	2	2	2103845	192	169.80	156.70	201.15	527.65	22	2	6	5	3	3	3110284	193	175.30	168.70	182.55	526.55	20	3	4	5	4	2	2103171	194	180.90	156.20	189.05	526.15	22	2	6	7	2	3	2109415	195	169.70	180.25	173.75	523.70	24	2	7	9	2	2	2104246	196	181.60	164.45	177.50	523.55	18	2	4	6	2	2	2109653	197	198.50	156.90	167.65	523.05	30	3	8	10	3	3	3111026	198	176.70	169.40	176.75	522.85	20	3	5	6	2	2	2103459	199	147.80	163.10	210.25	521.15	20	2	6	6	2	2	2102148	200	148.90	165.10	207.10	521.10	20	3	5	5	3	2	2109769	201	175.20	158.25	186.75	520.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2107016	202	181.60	172.85	165.70	520.15	22	2	5	6	3	3	3108915	203	145.50	184.15	190.30	519.95	18	2	3	4	2	3	4102367	204	194.60	164.90	160.35	519.85	21	3	7	5	2	2	2106487	205	150.30	170.60	197.25	518.15	29	4	9	7	3	3	3111499	206	181.15	167.55	168.30	517.00	20	3	6	5	2	2	2109448	207	157.60	168.60	189.35	515.55	18	3	3	5	2	2	3105522	208	146.50	164.40	204.15	515.05	18	2	4	8	2	1	1105201	209	164.20	156.65	192.90	513.75	18	2	7	4	2	1	2102808	210	178.50	173.75	161.10	513.35	18	2	4	4	3	3	2108765	211	159.80	188.85	164.70	513.35	26	4	6	7	3	3	3106253	212	165.35	166.05	180.65	512.05	20	3	5	5	3	2	2105092	213	201.50	163.20	147.25	511.95	30	4	9	7	3	3	4107613	214	174.60	154.50	181.75	510.85	19	2	5	5	2	3	2100221	215	136.20	165.15	209.20	510.55	27	2	8	10	4	2	1110057	216	173.40	174.05	162.20	509.65	22	2	5	7	2	4	2109500	217	160.80	185.85	162.80	509.45	18	2	5	7	2	1	1105279	218	167.45	169.65	172.10	509.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2111978	219	167.90	163.95	177.35	509.20	18	2	5	5	2	2	2101299	220	177.00	157.35	174.15	508.50	19	3	4	6	2	2	2110553	221	163.20	181.60	162.45	507.25	23	3	6	8	2	2	2101288	222	153.30	185.85	167.10	506.25	30	4	6	11	3	3	3106705	223	159.20	163.25	183.30	505.75	21	3	5	6	3	2	2103889	224	150.40	170.00	185.25	505.65	23	3	7	6	3	2	2101264	225	165.20	158.90	181.30	505.40	28	3	6	9	4	3	3109974	226	176.25	167.95	160.50	504.70	28	2	7	10	3	3	3110739	227	171.00	165.00	168.05	504.05	24	2	6	10	2	2	2108347	228	156.25	140.55	205.00	501.80	19	2	4	7	2	2	2108977	229	144.80	170.95	185.45	501.20	19	2	5	6	2	2	2110503	230	148.95	174.20	176.95	500.10	25	3	6	8	2	3	3109373	231	146.95	154.70	197.15	498.80	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110643	232	197.95	132.90	167.55	498.40	23	3	6	8	2	2	2107822	233	170.80	149.00	175.25	495.05	19	2	5	5	2	2	3104130	234	194.15	142.30	156.55	493.00	22	3	5	5	3	3	3104840	235	185.40	154.80	146.95	487.15	19	2	5	7	2	2	1101088	236	149.95	141.35	195.20	486.50	29	2	9	9	3	3	3100878	237	145.70	162.00	177.75	485.45	21	4	6	5	2	2	2109284	238	195.70	150.00	137.95	483.65	29	3	10	8	4	2	2106544	239	159.10	160.40	161.85	481.35	24	3	6	7	4	2	2104288	240	185.80	122.90	171.55	480.25	30	3	9	8	3	3	4111260	241	175.80	152.40	151.75	479.95	18	3	3	5	2	3	2106572	---	180.30	148.15	149.55	478.00	21	2	6	7	2	2	2108798	242	152.40	138.65	186.10	477.15	22	2	6	6	3	2	3111475	243	163.90	161.30	149.55	474.75	18	2	5	5	2	2	2106963	244	168.30	118.80	184.35	471.45	19	2	5	6	2	2	2107009	245	155.20	143.95	168.00	467.15	25	3	7	8	3	2	2109237	246	164.45	149.25	146.10	459.80	22	3	6	6	3	2	2100494	247	141.10	168.40	149.55	459.05	29	3	6	12	2	3	3101590	248	153.00	140.30	156.45	449.75	18	2	4	6	2	2	2112375	249	158.60	150.50	136.65	445.75	26	3	7	7	3	3	3109660	250	153.90	114.10	171.95	439.95	19	2	4	7	2	2	2112968	251	122.40	118.00	144.65	385.05	18	2	5	5	2	2	2

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Placed 8th this year, for $200. Another FG sometime in the last 3 weeks would have given a 5th place finish & $1K!I think I won $30 on this contest once before, and was mailed a check.Great contest - best perk of this site, IMO. Thanks to Joe & David for continuing to offer this every year. :thumbup:

Where did they get your address?

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Placed 8th this year, for $200. Another FG sometime in the last 3 weeks would have given a 5th place finish & $1K!I think I won $30 on this contest once before, and was mailed a check.Great contest - best perk of this site, IMO. Thanks to Joe & David for continuing to offer this every year. :thumbup:

Where did they get your address?
I don't remember how that happened. I'm sure they'll be sending out an email at some point to figure it out.

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I've got the same question. I've moved since i initially signed up years ago. I remember this site when it was cheatsheets.net!

They'll be sending an email to winners asking for addresses.

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thanks, eli manning, for putting up this game today, rather than last week. i didn't need to finish in 2nd place anyway.

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I've got the same question. I've moved since i initially signed up years ago. I remember this site when it was cheatsheets.net!

They'll be sending an email to winners asking for addresses.

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What are the starting lineups for the playoff subscriber contest? I cant seem to find them anywhere...

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What are the starting lineups for the playoff subscriber contest? I cant seem to find them anywhere...

Links for this contest are on the P1 page.

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Here are the final 250 standings with roster characteristics appended:

ENTRY	RANK	Wk 14	Wk 15	Wk 16	TOTAL	SIZE	QB	RB	WR	TE	PK	TD103607	1	228.00	220.30	226.85	675.15	25	2	7	7	3	3	3101381	2	203.10	232.55	214.40	650.05	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100424	3	210.70	226.70	209.65	647.05	26	3	8	9	2	2	2108541	4	230.10	214.00	201.25	645.35	24	3	5	8	3	2	3102602	5	225.70	182.45	228.75	636.90	19	2	5	6	2	2	2107848	6	218.50	203.10	215.25	636.85	23	3	5	6	3	3	3110343	7	233.00	189.00	214.25	636.25	24	3	5	7	2	3	4106779	8	198.00	209.30	226.75	634.05	27	3	7	8	3	3	3108068	9	244.25	196.00	192.55	632.80	23	3	6	6	2	3	3102245	10	201.80	193.85	236.10	631.75	20	2	6	6	2	2	2110101	11	204.90	202.80	223.65	631.35	25	3	6	6	4	3	3102544	12	221.10	177.35	230.40	628.85	24	3	6	7	2	3	3105813	13	224.60	206.00	195.25	625.85	20	3	5	6	2	2	2107390	14	238.80	181.45	199.90	620.15	23	3	7	5	2	3	3108931	15	200.20	198.20	220.45	618.85	27	3	7	9	3	3	2107823	16	224.05	193.75	198.90	616.70	23	3	5	6	3	3	3103792	17	212.60	205.05	198.70	616.35	21	2	6	6	3	2	2101509	18	222.90	186.95	206.35	616.20	18	2	5	4	3	2	2108903	19	231.95	189.00	193.60	614.55	23	3	6	7	3	2	2108858	20	224.85	196.50	190.25	611.60	21	3	5	6	3	2	2105886	21	212.60	196.90	201.75	611.25	22	3	6	5	2	3	3104480	22	181.20	184.50	245.05	610.75	21	2	6	7	2	2	2100473	23	191.70	192.60	226.40	610.70	22	2	6	6	2	3	3102123	24	208.50	201.10	200.85	610.45	24	3	6	7	3	3	2107673	25	215.80	202.80	190.45	609.05	18	2	4	5	2	3	2102991	26	204.10	187.70	216.25	608.05	30	3	10	8	3	3	3111230	27	167.70	221.85	217.90	607.45	18	2	3	7	2	2	2106524	28	218.90	175.40	210.35	604.65	19	3	4	6	2	2	2108703	29	191.30	194.50	218.45	604.25	24	3	5	6	4	3	3103995	30	215.50	188.90	198.45	602.85	23	3	6	6	3	2	3103222	31	198.95	194.05	208.60	601.60	20	3	7	4	2	2	2103722	32	194.55	205.35	201.00	600.90	18	2	4	5	3	2	2108779	33	200.40	177.70	221.85	599.95	23	2	5	6	3	3	4108645	34	191.00	174.50	234.25	599.75	18	2	3	6	3	2	2105258	35	213.20	185.55	200.45	599.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2109420	36	191.05	201.55	206.60	599.20	19	2	4	6	3	2	2109201	37	179.00	210.95	209.10	599.05	21	2	5	8	2	2	2106025	38	220.00	181.20	197.25	598.45	22	2	8	6	2	2	2106571	39	193.45	188.15	216.40	598.00	22	2	6	7	3	2	2103005	40	219.50	187.30	190.95	597.75	19	3	5	5	2	2	2110378	41	206.30	189.10	202.15	597.55	21	3	6	6	2	2	2111711	42	185.30	202.60	209.05	596.95	21	2	6	7	2	2	2105139	43	204.90	158.80	233.15	596.85	18	2	5	5	2	2	2109338	44	214.10	187.80	194.55	596.45	19	3	5	5	2	2	2100960	45	180.50	172.25	241.90	594.65	20	2	4	5	3	3	3109009	46	203.15	191.85	199.10	594.10	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100228	47	185.70	214.45	193.00	593.15	20	2	5	5	3	3	2108337	48	218.70	175.65	198.30	592.65	23	3	6	7	3	2	2107040	49	209.30	184.90	198.25	592.45	20	2	5	6	3	2	2102087	50	211.80	195.30	184.25	591.35	20	3	5	6	2	2	2108724	51	187.00	206.30	197.45	590.75	18	3	4	5	2	2	2109726	52	193.90	196.20	200.45	590.55	18	2	4	5	2	3	2106675	53	190.20	171.15	227.50	588.85	20	2	5	7	2	2	2109096	54	220.10	187.60	181.05	588.75	18	2	6	6	1	1	2101076	55	206.60	189.40	192.65	588.65	25	3	7	7	3	2	3108241	56	182.05	166.45	240.00	588.50	21	2	6	7	2	2	2108220	57	158.75	196.65	232.70	588.10	20	3	4	6	2	2	3100476	58	217.60	171.90	198.35	587.85	28	3	7	8	4	3	3107074	59	192.10	168.70	226.95	587.75	30	4	9	7	4	3	3112441	60	173.90	187.10	226.25	587.25	18	3	4	6	1	2	2104653	61	179.85	199.35	207.30	586.50	20	3	6	5	2	2	2112149	62	198.80	199.45	187.75	586.00	18	2	5	5	2	2	2102335	63	218.80	184.00	182.75	585.55	18	3	5	4	2	2	2101466	64	223.30	175.45	185.85	584.60	18	2	5	5	2	2	2105791	65	200.85	208.75	174.00	583.60	19	2	5	6	2	2	2104164	66	196.60	207.90	178.85	583.35	26	2	7	10	3	2	2101933	67	210.40	181.30	191.35	583.05	25	3	6	8	3	3	2111785	68	164.60	208.75	209.00	582.35	18	3	4	5	2	2	2102869	69	195.40	164.10	220.75	580.25	18	2	4	5	3	2	2111694	70	161.50	196.60	222.05	580.15	29	4	7	7	4	4	3100279	71	193.00	185.80	200.85	579.65	18	2	5	6	2	2	1107945	72	215.50	172.05	191.40	578.95	24	3	6	7	3	3	2100374	73	201.10	174.80	202.05	577.95	27	3	8	8	3	2	3107353	74	209.10	165.00	202.95	577.05	25	2	7	8	3	3	2107252	75	179.10	218.95	178.90	576.95	18	2	6	4	2	2	2102341	76	226.90	169.50	179.95	576.35	21	3	5	5	3	3	2102719	77	195.00	175.60	205.55	576.15	18	2	4	6	2	2	2102283	78	180.40	200.65	194.10	575.15	20	2	5	6	3	2	2113101	79	194.60	187.70	192.75	575.05	21	2	7	5	3	2	2102931	80	201.80	156.00	216.50	574.30	28	4	6	6	6	4	2101368	81	216.70	185.45	172.00	574.15	26	3	7	7	3	3	3105386	82	186.70	173.30	213.45	573.45	19	2	5	5	2	2	3103128	83	178.80	189.00	204.85	572.65	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100283	84	192.15	202.55	177.80	572.50	24	3	6	6	3	3	3101115	85	193.30	193.10	185.65	572.05	18	2	3	8	1	2	2108467	86	166.65	184.85	220.40	571.90	24	1	10	6	3	2	2106051	87	195.80	200.00	176.00	571.80	18	2	4	7	2	1	2110509	88	171.20	171.80	228.45	571.45	23	4	6	6	2	2	3101269	89	177.60	198.20	195.45	571.25	21	2	5	7	3	2	2105250	90	194.50	179.40	197.25	571.15	20	2	7	7	1	1	2101557	91	159.60	178.80	232.65	571.05	24	3	7	7	3	2	2109543	92	193.90	192.00	185.15	571.05	21	2	5	8	2	2	2104639	93	185.00	207.60	178.05	570.65	19	3	5	5	2	2	2102502	94	192.75	158.30	218.75	569.80	20	3	5	6	2	2	2102783	95	200.00	163.70	205.55	569.25	18	2	5	5	2	2	2104127	96	163.70	177.85	227.50	569.05	27	3	8	8	3	2	3105669	97	175.90	183.85	208.95	568.70	27	3	7	8	3	3	3103993	98	159.90	211.55	196.20	567.65	20	3	4	6	3	2	2110936	99	171.20	197.10	199.05	567.35	21	2	5	8	2	2	2102065	100	183.50	189.60	194.20	567.30	30	3	8	8	3	4	4111984	101	199.60	172.90	194.55	567.05	20	2	5	7	2	2	2104492	102	189.60	184.00	193.35	566.95	18	2	5	5	2	2	2112064	103	199.10	191.05	176.35	566.50	19	2	6	5	2	2	2107776	104	195.70	164.85	205.75	566.30	19	2	6	5	2	2	2109414	105	171.80	183.40	211.00	566.20	23	2	6	6	3	3	3100001	106	192.90	175.25	198.00	566.15	23	3	5	6	4	3	2102353	107	205.20	182.55	177.90	565.65	23	3	6	7	3	2	2107343	108	184.10	183.35	198.10	565.55	23	2	8	7	2	2	2109157	109	189.60	189.55	186.25	565.40	19	2	6	5	2	2	2110179	110	209.30	169.50	186.50	565.30	20	3	4	6	3	2	2111578	111	184.60	167.15	213.10	564.85	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100362	112	187.90	178.65	198.30	564.85	24	3	7	6	2	3	3107433	113	193.70	188.30	182.75	564.75	28	5	8	8	3	2	2107490	114	190.10	175.20	199.35	564.65	19	3	4	6	2	2	2108954	115	169.20	219.35	175.90	564.45	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110763	116	168.60	178.20	217.15	563.95	20	3	5	6	2	2	2103402	117	186.30	182.60	194.75	563.65	19	2	5	7	2	1	2104282	118	179.40	188.40	195.85	563.65	18	2	4	6	2	2	2100171	119	205.65	184.45	173.10	563.20	28	2	7	8	3	4	4101671	120	187.50	190.30	184.85	562.65	25	3	7	7	3	3	2111497	121	182.75	189.05	189.40	561.20	18	2	5	5	2	2	2105186	122	176.60	169.50	214.45	560.55	26	3	5	12	2	2	2100669	123	195.10	198.90	165.70	559.70	20	3	5	5	3	2	2102438	124	182.75	177.75	198.70	559.20	21	3	4	5	4	3	2101426	125	178.60	186.75	193.30	558.65	19	2	5	6	2	2	2102388	126	183.40	169.60	205.55	558.55	22	2	6	8	2	2	2103937	127	185.60	178.75	193.65	558.00	18	2	5	5	2	2	2103409	128	166.40	195.90	195.65	557.95	22	3	5	7	2	2	3109150	129	208.10	186.40	163.10	557.60	22	2	6	8	2	2	2108070	130	192.60	178.60	185.15	556.35	21	2	6	6	2	2	3110287	131	187.50	190.45	178.30	556.25	23	3	6	7	3	2	2100254	132	195.80	155.90	204.45	556.15	20	3	6	5	2	2	2106291	133	179.40	173.40	202.45	555.25	26	5	6	7	4	2	2107331	134	189.20	173.45	192.30	554.95	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110705	135	162.00	176.80	215.65	554.45	18	3	4	5	2	2	2101349	136	186.20	162.80	205.15	554.15	22	3	6	6	3	2	2107885	137	204.10	173.30	175.45	552.85	25	3	7	6	3	3	3103140	138	211.50	195.30	145.85	552.65	29	4	8	7	3	4	3106677	139	190.60	177.60	184.45	552.65	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100153	140	181.60	196.80	174.00	552.40	20	2	6	6	2	2	2104450	141	196.50	142.40	212.65	551.55	18	2	5	6	1	2	2105752	142	197.40	147.15	206.75	551.30	26	3	5	9	3	3	3107469	143	180.40	179.90	190.55	550.85	20	3	6	5	2	2	2106406	144	208.85	155.80	186.00	550.65	30	3	7	9	4	3	4107284	145	191.90	190.80	167.65	550.35	22	3	5	4	3	4	3105019	146	160.30	172.60	217.25	550.15	20	2	4	6	3	2	3103548	147	189.80	163.30	196.55	549.65	22	2	5	8	2	3	2104197	148	163.70	173.10	212.75	549.55	22	3	6	6	3	2	2108440	149	182.60	199.25	167.55	549.40	20	3	5	6	2	2	2108355	150	183.90	169.80	195.65	549.35	20	3	5	6	2	2	2102742	151	149.35	189.25	210.50	549.10	20	2	6	6	2	2	2102664	152	196.35	167.15	185.40	548.90	22	3	7	6	2	2	2112373	153	172.20	202.35	173.45	548.00	19	2	3	8	2	2	2100897	154	202.00	179.85	166.10	547.95	18	2	4	6	2	2	2108818	155	195.40	172.80	177.45	545.65	23	3	6	6	2	3	3109863	156	198.10	176.35	170.90	545.35	23	3	5	5	4	3	3109451	157	171.70	165.85	207.30	544.85	18	2	6	6	2	1	1103120	158	210.40	166.20	167.05	543.65	23	3	10	4	2	2	2107303	159	175.80	168.70	198.95	543.45	22	2	7	7	2	2	2108639	160	180.00	171.90	191.35	543.25	24	2	7	9	2	2	2105440	161	198.70	157.85	186.55	543.10	18	2	6	4	1	3	2104737	162	186.40	173.15	183.20	542.75	23	2	5	8	3	3	2101829	163	198.20	150.70	193.75	542.65	22	2	6	8	2	2	2104408	164	222.30	165.75	154.45	542.50	18	2	5	3	2	3	3108029	165	158.50	174.40	209.45	542.35	23	3	6	7	3	2	2113154	166	199.10	164.75	177.95	541.80	21	3	5	5	3	2	3102858	167	189.80	158.20	193.15	541.15	18	2	6	4	2	2	2108511	168	203.35	163.00	174.75	541.10	18	2	6	4	2	2	2104720	169	187.45	174.95	178.25	540.65	19	2	4	5	2	4	2105725	170	181.10	189.50	169.45	540.05	23	2	6	7	4	2	2111742	171	166.90	175.30	197.85	540.05	27	3	7	11	2	2	2111617	172	173.50	173.80	192.25	539.55	19	2	5	6	2	2	2109181	173	175.60	171.45	192.35	539.40	19	2	4	6	3	2	2100444	174	188.65	156.85	193.50	539.00	18	2	4	5	3	2	2101386	175	187.10	175.85	175.85	538.80	18	2	4	6	2	2	2111359	176	178.85	149.80	210.15	538.80	19	2	5	5	3	2	2107936	177	142.05	178.25	218.00	538.30	23	3	7	7	2	2	2108482	178	147.90	187.30	203.05	538.25	26	3	7	8	3	2	3110884	179	176.10	179.40	182.65	538.15	18	2	6	7	1	1	1105463	180	180.50	151.20	203.65	535.35	18	2	5	6	2	2	1100752	181	179.30	144.70	210.75	534.75	18	3	3	6	2	2	2101167	182	181.00	198.65	153.40	533.05	23	2	6	8	3	2	2105881	183	195.90	164.75	171.65	532.30	19	2	5	6	2	2	2108638	184	159.05	167.70	205.45	532.20	27	3	6	8	3	3	4108986	185	172.80	158.20	200.65	531.65	20	2	6	6	2	2	2112709	186	167.60	165.60	197.45	530.65	18	2	4	6	2	2	2101952	187	199.40	134.50	196.55	530.45	21	3	5	6	3	2	2112015	188	162.55	163.45	202.60	528.60	19	2	7	5	1	2	2109455	189	161.65	160.15	206.80	528.60	18	2	3	7	2	2	2105459	190	176.90	153.70	197.75	528.35	30	4	8	8	4	3	3106327	191	161.90	158.90	207.05	527.85	20	2	5	7	2	2	2103845	192	169.80	156.70	201.15	527.65	22	2	6	5	3	3	3110284	193	175.30	168.70	182.55	526.55	20	3	4	5	4	2	2103171	194	180.90	156.20	189.05	526.15	22	2	6	7	2	3	2109415	195	169.70	180.25	173.75	523.70	24	2	7	9	2	2	2104246	196	181.60	164.45	177.50	523.55	18	2	4	6	2	2	2109653	197	198.50	156.90	167.65	523.05	30	3	8	10	3	3	3111026	198	176.70	169.40	176.75	522.85	20	3	5	6	2	2	2103459	199	147.80	163.10	210.25	521.15	20	2	6	6	2	2	2102148	200	148.90	165.10	207.10	521.10	20	3	5	5	3	2	2109769	201	175.20	158.25	186.75	520.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2107016	202	181.60	172.85	165.70	520.15	22	2	5	6	3	3	3108915	203	145.50	184.15	190.30	519.95	18	2	3	4	2	3	4102367	204	194.60	164.90	160.35	519.85	21	3	7	5	2	2	2106487	205	150.30	170.60	197.25	518.15	29	4	9	7	3	3	3111499	206	181.15	167.55	168.30	517.00	20	3	6	5	2	2	2109448	207	157.60	168.60	189.35	515.55	18	3	3	5	2	2	3105522	208	146.50	164.40	204.15	515.05	18	2	4	8	2	1	1105201	209	164.20	156.65	192.90	513.75	18	2	7	4	2	1	2102808	210	178.50	173.75	161.10	513.35	18	2	4	4	3	3	2108765	211	159.80	188.85	164.70	513.35	26	4	6	7	3	3	3106253	212	165.35	166.05	180.65	512.05	20	3	5	5	3	2	2105092	213	201.50	163.20	147.25	511.95	30	4	9	7	3	3	4107613	214	174.60	154.50	181.75	510.85	19	2	5	5	2	3	2100221	215	136.20	165.15	209.20	510.55	27	2	8	10	4	2	1110057	216	173.40	174.05	162.20	509.65	22	2	5	7	2	4	2109500	217	160.80	185.85	162.80	509.45	18	2	5	7	2	1	1105279	218	167.45	169.65	172.10	509.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2111978	219	167.90	163.95	177.35	509.20	18	2	5	5	2	2	2101299	220	177.00	157.35	174.15	508.50	19	3	4	6	2	2	2110553	221	163.20	181.60	162.45	507.25	23	3	6	8	2	2	2101288	222	153.30	185.85	167.10	506.25	30	4	6	11	3	3	3106705	223	159.20	163.25	183.30	505.75	21	3	5	6	3	2	2103889	224	150.40	170.00	185.25	505.65	23	3	7	6	3	2	2101264	225	165.20	158.90	181.30	505.40	28	3	6	9	4	3	3109974	226	176.25	167.95	160.50	504.70	28	2	7	10	3	3	3110739	227	171.00	165.00	168.05	504.05	24	2	6	10	2	2	2108347	228	156.25	140.55	205.00	501.80	19	2	4	7	2	2	2108977	229	144.80	170.95	185.45	501.20	19	2	5	6	2	2	2110503	230	148.95	174.20	176.95	500.10	25	3	6	8	2	3	3109373	231	146.95	154.70	197.15	498.80	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110643	232	197.95	132.90	167.55	498.40	23	3	6	8	2	2	2107822	233	170.80	149.00	175.25	495.05	19	2	5	5	2	2	3104130	234	194.15	142.30	156.55	493.00	22	3	5	5	3	3	3104840	235	185.40	154.80	146.95	487.15	19	2	5	7	2	2	1101088	236	149.95	141.35	195.20	486.50	29	2	9	9	3	3	3100878	237	145.70	162.00	177.75	485.45	21	4	6	5	2	2	2109284	238	195.70	150.00	137.95	483.65	29	3	10	8	4	2	2106544	239	159.10	160.40	161.85	481.35	24	3	6	7	4	2	2104288	240	185.80	122.90	171.55	480.25	30	3	9	8	3	3	4111260	241	175.80	152.40	151.75	479.95	18	3	3	5	2	3	2106572	---	180.30	148.15	149.55	478.00	21	2	6	7	2	2	2108798	242	152.40	138.65	186.10	477.15	22	2	6	6	3	2	3111475	243	163.90	161.30	149.55	474.75	18	2	5	5	2	2	2106963	244	168.30	118.80	184.35	471.45	19	2	5	6	2	2	2107009	245	155.20	143.95	168.00	467.15	25	3	7	8	3	2	2109237	246	164.45	149.25	146.10	459.80	22	3	6	6	3	2	2100494	247	141.10	168.40	149.55	459.05	29	3	6	12	2	3	3101590	248	153.00	140.30	156.45	449.75	18	2	4	6	2	2	2112375	249	158.60	150.50	136.65	445.75	26	3	7	7	3	3	3109660	250	153.90	114.10	171.95	439.95	19	2	4	7	2	2	2112968	251	122.40	118.00	144.65	385.05	18	2	5	5	2	2	2
I'm going to continue to say that 2 QBs is almost a must to win this contest if you are going to select a stud at the position.

This team finsihed 3rd. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/100424.php

It would have advance with only Ryan as the solo QB and only used Ryan in the 3 playoff weeks. That means both Luck $11 and Locker $9 turned out to be non useful monies. $3 on Seattle would have won this contest. Even if you don't cherry pick, the defensive scores of 7, 11, and 4 and kicker scores of 18, 11, and 12 could have been bested by several additions to win the top prize.

This team finished 4th. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/108541.php

Same QB combo as the team above. Luck was needed one week to advance, Locker was wated money.

This team finished 6th. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/107848.php

Locker wasn't needed all season.

7th place team. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/110343.php

Another Ryan/Luck/Locker trio. Ryan solo would have been enough to get the same result.

Our buddy DB was 8th. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/106779.php

Weeden and Tannehill were non-factors.

Shaq at 9th was the only 3 QB team thus far to use more than one QB in the final 3 weeks. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/108068.php

He needed all three QBs to get where he got.

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What are the starting lineups for the playoff subscriber contest? I cant seem to find them anywhere...

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I am talking about the playoff contest...I read the rules and cant find a starting lineup. Maybe I am blind.

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What are the starting lineups for the playoff subscriber contest? I cant seem to find them anywhere...

Links for this contest are on the P1 page.
I am talking about the playoff contest...I read the rules and cant find a starting lineup. Maybe I am blind.
I don't think there is one. Goes by points only. So, if you pick all players that had a bye this week, you are screwed. The only caveat is that only two players from one team will count. Forces you to spread the money and not have four or five players from one team. Again, I don't believe there is a lineup since TEs are not needed. You could have zero RBs as well if you wanted to load up on WRs and Qb's. makeup of teams will be interesting. I have 16 players, with 8-10 playing this week. Only chance you have is to pick the players from the winners so they can count for more than one week.

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Here are the final 250 standings with roster characteristics appended:

ENTRY	RANK	Wk 14	Wk 15	Wk 16	TOTAL	SIZE	QB	RB	WR	TE	PK	TD103607	1	228.00	220.30	226.85	675.15	25	2	7	7	3	3	3101381	2	203.10	232.55	214.40	650.05	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100424	3	210.70	226.70	209.65	647.05	26	3	8	9	2	2	2108541	4	230.10	214.00	201.25	645.35	24	3	5	8	3	2	3102602	5	225.70	182.45	228.75	636.90	19	2	5	6	2	2	2107848	6	218.50	203.10	215.25	636.85	23	3	5	6	3	3	3110343	7	233.00	189.00	214.25	636.25	24	3	5	7	2	3	4106779	8	198.00	209.30	226.75	634.05	27	3	7	8	3	3	3108068	9	244.25	196.00	192.55	632.80	23	3	6	6	2	3	3102245	10	201.80	193.85	236.10	631.75	20	2	6	6	2	2	2110101	11	204.90	202.80	223.65	631.35	25	3	6	6	4	3	3102544	12	221.10	177.35	230.40	628.85	24	3	6	7	2	3	3105813	13	224.60	206.00	195.25	625.85	20	3	5	6	2	2	2107390	14	238.80	181.45	199.90	620.15	23	3	7	5	2	3	3108931	15	200.20	198.20	220.45	618.85	27	3	7	9	3	3	2107823	16	224.05	193.75	198.90	616.70	23	3	5	6	3	3	3103792	17	212.60	205.05	198.70	616.35	21	2	6	6	3	2	2101509	18	222.90	186.95	206.35	616.20	18	2	5	4	3	2	2108903	19	231.95	189.00	193.60	614.55	23	3	6	7	3	2	2108858	20	224.85	196.50	190.25	611.60	21	3	5	6	3	2	2105886	21	212.60	196.90	201.75	611.25	22	3	6	5	2	3	3104480	22	181.20	184.50	245.05	610.75	21	2	6	7	2	2	2100473	23	191.70	192.60	226.40	610.70	22	2	6	6	2	3	3102123	24	208.50	201.10	200.85	610.45	24	3	6	7	3	3	2107673	25	215.80	202.80	190.45	609.05	18	2	4	5	2	3	2102991	26	204.10	187.70	216.25	608.05	30	3	10	8	3	3	3111230	27	167.70	221.85	217.90	607.45	18	2	3	7	2	2	2106524	28	218.90	175.40	210.35	604.65	19	3	4	6	2	2	2108703	29	191.30	194.50	218.45	604.25	24	3	5	6	4	3	3103995	30	215.50	188.90	198.45	602.85	23	3	6	6	3	2	3103222	31	198.95	194.05	208.60	601.60	20	3	7	4	2	2	2103722	32	194.55	205.35	201.00	600.90	18	2	4	5	3	2	2108779	33	200.40	177.70	221.85	599.95	23	2	5	6	3	3	4108645	34	191.00	174.50	234.25	599.75	18	2	3	6	3	2	2105258	35	213.20	185.55	200.45	599.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2109420	36	191.05	201.55	206.60	599.20	19	2	4	6	3	2	2109201	37	179.00	210.95	209.10	599.05	21	2	5	8	2	2	2106025	38	220.00	181.20	197.25	598.45	22	2	8	6	2	2	2106571	39	193.45	188.15	216.40	598.00	22	2	6	7	3	2	2103005	40	219.50	187.30	190.95	597.75	19	3	5	5	2	2	2110378	41	206.30	189.10	202.15	597.55	21	3	6	6	2	2	2111711	42	185.30	202.60	209.05	596.95	21	2	6	7	2	2	2105139	43	204.90	158.80	233.15	596.85	18	2	5	5	2	2	2109338	44	214.10	187.80	194.55	596.45	19	3	5	5	2	2	2100960	45	180.50	172.25	241.90	594.65	20	2	4	5	3	3	3109009	46	203.15	191.85	199.10	594.10	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100228	47	185.70	214.45	193.00	593.15	20	2	5	5	3	3	2108337	48	218.70	175.65	198.30	592.65	23	3	6	7	3	2	2107040	49	209.30	184.90	198.25	592.45	20	2	5	6	3	2	2102087	50	211.80	195.30	184.25	591.35	20	3	5	6	2	2	2108724	51	187.00	206.30	197.45	590.75	18	3	4	5	2	2	2109726	52	193.90	196.20	200.45	590.55	18	2	4	5	2	3	2106675	53	190.20	171.15	227.50	588.85	20	2	5	7	2	2	2109096	54	220.10	187.60	181.05	588.75	18	2	6	6	1	1	2101076	55	206.60	189.40	192.65	588.65	25	3	7	7	3	2	3108241	56	182.05	166.45	240.00	588.50	21	2	6	7	2	2	2108220	57	158.75	196.65	232.70	588.10	20	3	4	6	2	2	3100476	58	217.60	171.90	198.35	587.85	28	3	7	8	4	3	3107074	59	192.10	168.70	226.95	587.75	30	4	9	7	4	3	3112441	60	173.90	187.10	226.25	587.25	18	3	4	6	1	2	2104653	61	179.85	199.35	207.30	586.50	20	3	6	5	2	2	2112149	62	198.80	199.45	187.75	586.00	18	2	5	5	2	2	2102335	63	218.80	184.00	182.75	585.55	18	3	5	4	2	2	2101466	64	223.30	175.45	185.85	584.60	18	2	5	5	2	2	2105791	65	200.85	208.75	174.00	583.60	19	2	5	6	2	2	2104164	66	196.60	207.90	178.85	583.35	26	2	7	10	3	2	2101933	67	210.40	181.30	191.35	583.05	25	3	6	8	3	3	2111785	68	164.60	208.75	209.00	582.35	18	3	4	5	2	2	2102869	69	195.40	164.10	220.75	580.25	18	2	4	5	3	2	2111694	70	161.50	196.60	222.05	580.15	29	4	7	7	4	4	3100279	71	193.00	185.80	200.85	579.65	18	2	5	6	2	2	1107945	72	215.50	172.05	191.40	578.95	24	3	6	7	3	3	2100374	73	201.10	174.80	202.05	577.95	27	3	8	8	3	2	3107353	74	209.10	165.00	202.95	577.05	25	2	7	8	3	3	2107252	75	179.10	218.95	178.90	576.95	18	2	6	4	2	2	2102341	76	226.90	169.50	179.95	576.35	21	3	5	5	3	3	2102719	77	195.00	175.60	205.55	576.15	18	2	4	6	2	2	2102283	78	180.40	200.65	194.10	575.15	20	2	5	6	3	2	2113101	79	194.60	187.70	192.75	575.05	21	2	7	5	3	2	2102931	80	201.80	156.00	216.50	574.30	28	4	6	6	6	4	2101368	81	216.70	185.45	172.00	574.15	26	3	7	7	3	3	3105386	82	186.70	173.30	213.45	573.45	19	2	5	5	2	2	3103128	83	178.80	189.00	204.85	572.65	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100283	84	192.15	202.55	177.80	572.50	24	3	6	6	3	3	3101115	85	193.30	193.10	185.65	572.05	18	2	3	8	1	2	2108467	86	166.65	184.85	220.40	571.90	24	1	10	6	3	2	2106051	87	195.80	200.00	176.00	571.80	18	2	4	7	2	1	2110509	88	171.20	171.80	228.45	571.45	23	4	6	6	2	2	3101269	89	177.60	198.20	195.45	571.25	21	2	5	7	3	2	2105250	90	194.50	179.40	197.25	571.15	20	2	7	7	1	1	2101557	91	159.60	178.80	232.65	571.05	24	3	7	7	3	2	2109543	92	193.90	192.00	185.15	571.05	21	2	5	8	2	2	2104639	93	185.00	207.60	178.05	570.65	19	3	5	5	2	2	2102502	94	192.75	158.30	218.75	569.80	20	3	5	6	2	2	2102783	95	200.00	163.70	205.55	569.25	18	2	5	5	2	2	2104127	96	163.70	177.85	227.50	569.05	27	3	8	8	3	2	3105669	97	175.90	183.85	208.95	568.70	27	3	7	8	3	3	3103993	98	159.90	211.55	196.20	567.65	20	3	4	6	3	2	2110936	99	171.20	197.10	199.05	567.35	21	2	5	8	2	2	2102065	100	183.50	189.60	194.20	567.30	30	3	8	8	3	4	4111984	101	199.60	172.90	194.55	567.05	20	2	5	7	2	2	2104492	102	189.60	184.00	193.35	566.95	18	2	5	5	2	2	2112064	103	199.10	191.05	176.35	566.50	19	2	6	5	2	2	2107776	104	195.70	164.85	205.75	566.30	19	2	6	5	2	2	2109414	105	171.80	183.40	211.00	566.20	23	2	6	6	3	3	3100001	106	192.90	175.25	198.00	566.15	23	3	5	6	4	3	2102353	107	205.20	182.55	177.90	565.65	23	3	6	7	3	2	2107343	108	184.10	183.35	198.10	565.55	23	2	8	7	2	2	2109157	109	189.60	189.55	186.25	565.40	19	2	6	5	2	2	2110179	110	209.30	169.50	186.50	565.30	20	3	4	6	3	2	2111578	111	184.60	167.15	213.10	564.85	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100362	112	187.90	178.65	198.30	564.85	24	3	7	6	2	3	3107433	113	193.70	188.30	182.75	564.75	28	5	8	8	3	2	2107490	114	190.10	175.20	199.35	564.65	19	3	4	6	2	2	2108954	115	169.20	219.35	175.90	564.45	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110763	116	168.60	178.20	217.15	563.95	20	3	5	6	2	2	2103402	117	186.30	182.60	194.75	563.65	19	2	5	7	2	1	2104282	118	179.40	188.40	195.85	563.65	18	2	4	6	2	2	2100171	119	205.65	184.45	173.10	563.20	28	2	7	8	3	4	4101671	120	187.50	190.30	184.85	562.65	25	3	7	7	3	3	2111497	121	182.75	189.05	189.40	561.20	18	2	5	5	2	2	2105186	122	176.60	169.50	214.45	560.55	26	3	5	12	2	2	2100669	123	195.10	198.90	165.70	559.70	20	3	5	5	3	2	2102438	124	182.75	177.75	198.70	559.20	21	3	4	5	4	3	2101426	125	178.60	186.75	193.30	558.65	19	2	5	6	2	2	2102388	126	183.40	169.60	205.55	558.55	22	2	6	8	2	2	2103937	127	185.60	178.75	193.65	558.00	18	2	5	5	2	2	2103409	128	166.40	195.90	195.65	557.95	22	3	5	7	2	2	3109150	129	208.10	186.40	163.10	557.60	22	2	6	8	2	2	2108070	130	192.60	178.60	185.15	556.35	21	2	6	6	2	2	3110287	131	187.50	190.45	178.30	556.25	23	3	6	7	3	2	2100254	132	195.80	155.90	204.45	556.15	20	3	6	5	2	2	2106291	133	179.40	173.40	202.45	555.25	26	5	6	7	4	2	2107331	134	189.20	173.45	192.30	554.95	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110705	135	162.00	176.80	215.65	554.45	18	3	4	5	2	2	2101349	136	186.20	162.80	205.15	554.15	22	3	6	6	3	2	2107885	137	204.10	173.30	175.45	552.85	25	3	7	6	3	3	3103140	138	211.50	195.30	145.85	552.65	29	4	8	7	3	4	3106677	139	190.60	177.60	184.45	552.65	18	2	5	5	2	2	2100153	140	181.60	196.80	174.00	552.40	20	2	6	6	2	2	2104450	141	196.50	142.40	212.65	551.55	18	2	5	6	1	2	2105752	142	197.40	147.15	206.75	551.30	26	3	5	9	3	3	3107469	143	180.40	179.90	190.55	550.85	20	3	6	5	2	2	2106406	144	208.85	155.80	186.00	550.65	30	3	7	9	4	3	4107284	145	191.90	190.80	167.65	550.35	22	3	5	4	3	4	3105019	146	160.30	172.60	217.25	550.15	20	2	4	6	3	2	3103548	147	189.80	163.30	196.55	549.65	22	2	5	8	2	3	2104197	148	163.70	173.10	212.75	549.55	22	3	6	6	3	2	2108440	149	182.60	199.25	167.55	549.40	20	3	5	6	2	2	2108355	150	183.90	169.80	195.65	549.35	20	3	5	6	2	2	2102742	151	149.35	189.25	210.50	549.10	20	2	6	6	2	2	2102664	152	196.35	167.15	185.40	548.90	22	3	7	6	2	2	2112373	153	172.20	202.35	173.45	548.00	19	2	3	8	2	2	2100897	154	202.00	179.85	166.10	547.95	18	2	4	6	2	2	2108818	155	195.40	172.80	177.45	545.65	23	3	6	6	2	3	3109863	156	198.10	176.35	170.90	545.35	23	3	5	5	4	3	3109451	157	171.70	165.85	207.30	544.85	18	2	6	6	2	1	1103120	158	210.40	166.20	167.05	543.65	23	3	10	4	2	2	2107303	159	175.80	168.70	198.95	543.45	22	2	7	7	2	2	2108639	160	180.00	171.90	191.35	543.25	24	2	7	9	2	2	2105440	161	198.70	157.85	186.55	543.10	18	2	6	4	1	3	2104737	162	186.40	173.15	183.20	542.75	23	2	5	8	3	3	2101829	163	198.20	150.70	193.75	542.65	22	2	6	8	2	2	2104408	164	222.30	165.75	154.45	542.50	18	2	5	3	2	3	3108029	165	158.50	174.40	209.45	542.35	23	3	6	7	3	2	2113154	166	199.10	164.75	177.95	541.80	21	3	5	5	3	2	3102858	167	189.80	158.20	193.15	541.15	18	2	6	4	2	2	2108511	168	203.35	163.00	174.75	541.10	18	2	6	4	2	2	2104720	169	187.45	174.95	178.25	540.65	19	2	4	5	2	4	2105725	170	181.10	189.50	169.45	540.05	23	2	6	7	4	2	2111742	171	166.90	175.30	197.85	540.05	27	3	7	11	2	2	2111617	172	173.50	173.80	192.25	539.55	19	2	5	6	2	2	2109181	173	175.60	171.45	192.35	539.40	19	2	4	6	3	2	2100444	174	188.65	156.85	193.50	539.00	18	2	4	5	3	2	2101386	175	187.10	175.85	175.85	538.80	18	2	4	6	2	2	2111359	176	178.85	149.80	210.15	538.80	19	2	5	5	3	2	2107936	177	142.05	178.25	218.00	538.30	23	3	7	7	2	2	2108482	178	147.90	187.30	203.05	538.25	26	3	7	8	3	2	3110884	179	176.10	179.40	182.65	538.15	18	2	6	7	1	1	1105463	180	180.50	151.20	203.65	535.35	18	2	5	6	2	2	1100752	181	179.30	144.70	210.75	534.75	18	3	3	6	2	2	2101167	182	181.00	198.65	153.40	533.05	23	2	6	8	3	2	2105881	183	195.90	164.75	171.65	532.30	19	2	5	6	2	2	2108638	184	159.05	167.70	205.45	532.20	27	3	6	8	3	3	4108986	185	172.80	158.20	200.65	531.65	20	2	6	6	2	2	2112709	186	167.60	165.60	197.45	530.65	18	2	4	6	2	2	2101952	187	199.40	134.50	196.55	530.45	21	3	5	6	3	2	2112015	188	162.55	163.45	202.60	528.60	19	2	7	5	1	2	2109455	189	161.65	160.15	206.80	528.60	18	2	3	7	2	2	2105459	190	176.90	153.70	197.75	528.35	30	4	8	8	4	3	3106327	191	161.90	158.90	207.05	527.85	20	2	5	7	2	2	2103845	192	169.80	156.70	201.15	527.65	22	2	6	5	3	3	3110284	193	175.30	168.70	182.55	526.55	20	3	4	5	4	2	2103171	194	180.90	156.20	189.05	526.15	22	2	6	7	2	3	2109415	195	169.70	180.25	173.75	523.70	24	2	7	9	2	2	2104246	196	181.60	164.45	177.50	523.55	18	2	4	6	2	2	2109653	197	198.50	156.90	167.65	523.05	30	3	8	10	3	3	3111026	198	176.70	169.40	176.75	522.85	20	3	5	6	2	2	2103459	199	147.80	163.10	210.25	521.15	20	2	6	6	2	2	2102148	200	148.90	165.10	207.10	521.10	20	3	5	5	3	2	2109769	201	175.20	158.25	186.75	520.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2107016	202	181.60	172.85	165.70	520.15	22	2	5	6	3	3	3108915	203	145.50	184.15	190.30	519.95	18	2	3	4	2	3	4102367	204	194.60	164.90	160.35	519.85	21	3	7	5	2	2	2106487	205	150.30	170.60	197.25	518.15	29	4	9	7	3	3	3111499	206	181.15	167.55	168.30	517.00	20	3	6	5	2	2	2109448	207	157.60	168.60	189.35	515.55	18	3	3	5	2	2	3105522	208	146.50	164.40	204.15	515.05	18	2	4	8	2	1	1105201	209	164.20	156.65	192.90	513.75	18	2	7	4	2	1	2102808	210	178.50	173.75	161.10	513.35	18	2	4	4	3	3	2108765	211	159.80	188.85	164.70	513.35	26	4	6	7	3	3	3106253	212	165.35	166.05	180.65	512.05	20	3	5	5	3	2	2105092	213	201.50	163.20	147.25	511.95	30	4	9	7	3	3	4107613	214	174.60	154.50	181.75	510.85	19	2	5	5	2	3	2100221	215	136.20	165.15	209.20	510.55	27	2	8	10	4	2	1110057	216	173.40	174.05	162.20	509.65	22	2	5	7	2	4	2109500	217	160.80	185.85	162.80	509.45	18	2	5	7	2	1	1105279	218	167.45	169.65	172.10	509.20	18	2	4	6	2	2	2111978	219	167.90	163.95	177.35	509.20	18	2	5	5	2	2	2101299	220	177.00	157.35	174.15	508.50	19	3	4	6	2	2	2110553	221	163.20	181.60	162.45	507.25	23	3	6	8	2	2	2101288	222	153.30	185.85	167.10	506.25	30	4	6	11	3	3	3106705	223	159.20	163.25	183.30	505.75	21	3	5	6	3	2	2103889	224	150.40	170.00	185.25	505.65	23	3	7	6	3	2	2101264	225	165.20	158.90	181.30	505.40	28	3	6	9	4	3	3109974	226	176.25	167.95	160.50	504.70	28	2	7	10	3	3	3110739	227	171.00	165.00	168.05	504.05	24	2	6	10	2	2	2108347	228	156.25	140.55	205.00	501.80	19	2	4	7	2	2	2108977	229	144.80	170.95	185.45	501.20	19	2	5	6	2	2	2110503	230	148.95	174.20	176.95	500.10	25	3	6	8	2	3	3109373	231	146.95	154.70	197.15	498.80	18	2	5	5	2	2	2110643	232	197.95	132.90	167.55	498.40	23	3	6	8	2	2	2107822	233	170.80	149.00	175.25	495.05	19	2	5	5	2	2	3104130	234	194.15	142.30	156.55	493.00	22	3	5	5	3	3	3104840	235	185.40	154.80	146.95	487.15	19	2	5	7	2	2	1101088	236	149.95	141.35	195.20	486.50	29	2	9	9	3	3	3100878	237	145.70	162.00	177.75	485.45	21	4	6	5	2	2	2109284	238	195.70	150.00	137.95	483.65	29	3	10	8	4	2	2106544	239	159.10	160.40	161.85	481.35	24	3	6	7	4	2	2104288	240	185.80	122.90	171.55	480.25	30	3	9	8	3	3	4111260	241	175.80	152.40	151.75	479.95	18	3	3	5	2	3	2106572	---	180.30	148.15	149.55	478.00	21	2	6	7	2	2	2108798	242	152.40	138.65	186.10	477.15	22	2	6	6	3	2	3111475	243	163.90	161.30	149.55	474.75	18	2	5	5	2	2	2106963	244	168.30	118.80	184.35	471.45	19	2	5	6	2	2	2107009	245	155.20	143.95	168.00	467.15	25	3	7	8	3	2	2109237	246	164.45	149.25	146.10	459.80	22	3	6	6	3	2	2100494	247	141.10	168.40	149.55	459.05	29	3	6	12	2	3	3101590	248	153.00	140.30	156.45	449.75	18	2	4	6	2	2	2112375	249	158.60	150.50	136.65	445.75	26	3	7	7	3	3	3109660	250	153.90	114.10	171.95	439.95	19	2	4	7	2	2	2112968	251	122.40	118.00	144.65	385.05	18	2	5	5	2	2	2
I'm going to continue to say that 2 QBs is almost a must to win this contest if you are going to select a stud at the position.

This team finsihed 3rd. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/100424.php

It would have advance with only Ryan as the solo QB and only used Ryan in the 3 playoff weeks. That means both Luck $11 and Locker $9 turned out to be non useful monies. $3 on Seattle would have won this contest. Even if you don't cherry pick, the defensive scores of 7, 11, and 4 and kicker scores of 18, 11, and 12 could have been bested by several additions to win the top prize.

This team finished 4th. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/108541.php

Same QB combo as the team above. Luck was needed one week to advance, Locker was wated money.

This team finished 6th. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/107848.php

Locker wasn't needed all season.

7th place team. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/110343.php

Another Ryan/Luck/Locker trio. Ryan solo would have been enough to get the same result.

Our buddy DB was 8th. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/106779.php

Weeden and Tannehill were non-factors.

Shaq at 9th was the only 3 QB team thus far to use more than one QB in the final 3 weeks. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2012/108068.php

He needed all three QBs to get where he got.

I completely agree, as evidenced by my own choice at the position.

From a theoretical level you have only 1 QB slot to start each week. When you include the flex and assume equal chance across positions for the flex, you need to start 2.33 RBs, 3.33 WRs, and 1.33 TEs. If you had similar redundancy across those positions you are looking at 7 RBs, 10WRs, and 4 TEs. Which if you had a 30 man roster is doable I guess. But this also ignores that QBs get hurt at a lower rate, so similar redundancy really means more than 21 RB/WR/TE.

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Has anyone heard anything about payouts yet? I changed my email address midseason, and I just want to make sure the email didn't go to my old address.

I haven't heard anything either.

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anybody hear anything yet?

I have not. The rules say they have 2 weeks from the official results of the contest though. That would be next Wednesday.
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I think they blew all your money in Vegas.

Does anyone who placed in the money last year know if they made us wait this long then?
Did you all get the email from Joe earlier in the week? It said that we would get an email by the end of the week with a paper that we had to sign, notarize, and send back.

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I think they blew all your money in Vegas.

Does anyone who placed in the money last year know if they made us wait this long then?
As I recall, it was a little longer than what was published, but I definately had cash in hand by the end of january and probably sooner than that.

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I think they blew all your money in Vegas.

Does anyone who placed in the money last year know if they made us wait this long then?
Did you all get the email from Joe earlier in the week? It said that we would get an email by the end of the week with a paper that we had to sign, notarize, and send back.
Just a wild guess, but I suspect anyone receiving $400 or more might be handled differently than others receiving less due to IRS reposting guidelines. Of course maybe their lawyers were concerned about violation of state law and they're doing something different as a cya for all money prizes.

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Seemed a little early to put a 2013 Subscriber Contest thread out there but I couldn't help but notice that the change in the bye weeks this year (later) ought to really have an interesting impact:

Week 4: GB CAR

Week 5: MIN PIT TB WASH

Week 6: ATL MIA

Week 7: OAK NO

Week 8: CHI TEN IND SD BAL HOU

Week 9: DEN DET GIANTS ARIZ SF JAX

Week 10: CLE KC NE JETS

Week 11: DAL STL

Week 12: BUF CIN PHIL SEA

You'd have to think that'll drop some ownership percentages, especially for those week 12 bye teams.

-QG

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Seemed a little early to put a 2013 Subscriber Contest thread out there but I couldn't help but notice that the change in the bye weeks this year (later) ought to really have an interesting impact:

Week 4: GB CAR

Week 5: MIN PIT TB WASH

Week 6: ATL MIA

Week 7: OAK NO

Week 8: CHI TEN IND SD BAL HOU

Week 9: DEN DET GIANTS ARIZ SF JAX

Week 10: CLE KC NE JETS

Week 11: DAL STL

Week 12: BUF CIN PHIL SEA

You'd have to think that'll drop some ownership percentages, especially for those week 12 bye teams.

-QG

Haha... QG - the subscriber contest's #1 fan. But yes, this is true. Makes players on those teams a bit of a tough sell. Personally, didn't figure anyone on those teams to be very good bargains anyway aside from maybe James Casey or Zach Miller. That hurts my TE sleeper plays...

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