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RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson, PIT (1 Viewer)
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jurb26
Footballguy
I'll take Patterson and totally agree. He's could probably play RB in the NFL.
Neofight
Footballguy
If Revis plays like he did last week covering Mike Wallace, Patterson will embarrass him.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Right and if Wallace were actually better than Patterson, don't you think Revis would have shadowed him like they're suggesting he will Patterson this weekend?
Belichick clearly doesn't agree with the Milkman.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Revis is still good, but clearly not the guy he used to be. He can be beaten with speed as was shown a couple of times last week. I'll be starting Patterson with confidence, regardless if he's being "shadowed" or not.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Someone explain to me how you can "shadow" a player who is utilized like Patterson?
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
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Guys, it's pretty simple: if you own Patterson you are playing him, regardless of matchup (except maybe if he plays Seattle and even then he might be fine BC they will move him around the formation away from Sherman). The only wrs you should ever consider starting over this stud are the top guys like Calvin, Marshall, Nelson, Julio, DT, dez...
He is that good. And the Vikings coaches know it. When they get him involved the scoreboard always seems to light up. Play him.
He is that good. And the Vikings coaches know it. When they get him involved the scoreboard always seems to light up. Play him.
GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
I don't see how u can sit him in return yardage leagues honestly... 2-3 pts floor is like 2-3 catches in ppr no?I don't really get the return yardage argument. My league is 1 poitn per 25 yards. That's like 2-3 PPG. It's not that much of a boost in PPR considering he's not likely to be a target monster like either AJ, Calvin, Julio, etc.I think he can handle between 8-12 offensive touches per game, including 2-4 rushes. Unlikely to be his average, but that's his upside and it entails low-mid WR1 stats.
Add return yards and you're looking at a potential monster, considering he's the best and most active kick returner in the league.
So a line of 3 catches 40 yds and 3 pts on 75 return yds equals 10 pts... Pretty good floor... Then of course if he runs 2-3 times for abt 15-20 yds that's another 2 pts... He is a 10 to 12 pt floor ppr guy in return leagues so what's not to like??
Of course let's say he explodes for a 100 yd kick return and now you have a 10 pt play even before we factor in his catches and Runs
Non-ppr Return leagues he is a never bench period... Right now!!
In ppr return leagues you bench at your own risk
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed. The days of sitting WRs because they're going up against Revis are gone. He's still very good, but not someone you want to be scared of starting your WR against.
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
The last 5 games haven't been enough?
I think going back to the end of last season, he's shown enough as an all around play maker that he should be in your lineup if you have him. Another year under his belt and another electric performance in week 1, I think Norval is going to do whatever he can to get this kid the ball. Last week was probably an anomaly with the targets / receptions IMO. There just wasn't a need to pass the ball in the blowout. If you bench him, you're going to regret it IMO.
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People getting a bit too jacked up in here.
NE coming off a bad loss. Rarely lose two in a row. And Bill B. is usually very good at taking away weapons.
Not to mention he knows Cassel.
Think somewhat of a bust is coming this week.
And in general, he could be a little up and down this season with big weeks followed by duds but with performance evening out as the season goes on.
Temper expectations.
NE coming off a bad loss. Rarely lose two in a row. And Bill B. is usually very good at taking away weapons.
Not to mention he knows Cassel.
Think somewhat of a bust is coming this week.
And in general, he could be a little up and down this season with big weeks followed by duds but with performance evening out as the season goes on.
Temper expectations.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
He seems like a must start now. Tough to bench a player with his skill set IMO. There aren't many guys in the league that can take it the distance with any touch. The Vikings only had 17 completions last week, not many receptions to go around. He'll get more when the Vikings need to score. Last week they were on cruise control. I don't see them being that improved where they also roll over NE, but anything is possible I guess.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Maybe. I agree that NE will be more effective this week on O, which should add to CPs chances. Not to mention that since last year NE hasn't proven able to stop the run. If Moreno and Miller could run all over them, what are Peterson and Patterson going to do with their carries?
This is pretty much the tip of the iceberg...this guy is creating a pattern where he pretty much is a threat to score anytime he touches it. I doubt the Vikings coaches are dumb, they will make a more concerted effort to feature him for sure.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
If this is true, it's even more reason to keep him in your lineup. You never know which game will be the ones where he explodes and wins your matchup for you. Don't be one of the fools who has cp on their bench during one of those weeks.
There's no reason why cp can't have a terrific week 2 at home vs ne.
massraider
Footballguy
Me too.werdnoynek said:
Eventually, he'll have a quiet game, like EVERY OTHER wide receiver, and we'll see people in here calling him out.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Yep, lucky for us though, this guy also gets carries and can take it to the house at any time!!!
ETA: That was by best Brewtown impression, though I forgot to throw in a couple "..." 's.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
What's really scare is, if he does evolve into a great, or even just good, NFL WR, he will become one of the three or four most feared offensive weapons in the NFL.
Gene Sackman
Footballguy
Rarely being the key word. The Pats will lose this week. They will have no answer for our run game, and in turn our passing game will be better than expected. Patterson will have his highlights in the air or the ground or both.kyoun1e said:
Ill see ya after the game, sucker.
Lol. Thanks for the unbiased analysis there.
I actually own C. Patterson myself so I hope I'm WRONG.
Gene Sackman
Footballguy
Gene Sackman
Footballguy
Also, your analysis was garbage. You didnt say anything. LOL- BB knows Cassel..? What does that mean? He hasnt played for NE in 6 years. Just a dumb statement.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I don't necessarily disagree but he is still a flex even if all he gets is 3/4 carries and a handful of returns. Guy is lightning in a bottle.
cstu
Footballguy
I agree, but if he doesn't get that 67 yard rushing TD everyone would be screaming what a bust he is with 3 catches for 26 yards and 2 rushes for 35 yards.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
472 yards from scrimmage and 6 TDs in his last 5 games. We're advocating benching this guy?
Milkman
Footballguy
God those ^^^^^^^ numbers are so ####### sexy. I traded Cobb for Patterson right before the season started. Believe me when I say I have a lot faith in his talent. Can't wait until Bridgewater gets up to speed and gets to play with Patterson. It's only going to help his numbers.
cstu
Footballguy
He's had 4 rushing TD's in his last 6 games and he's had a receiving or rushing TD in all 6.
7 total TD's in his last 6 games.
Milkman
Footballguy
Do you think it's possible that number comes down significantly in the near future or do you think we are looking at the #1WR in FF?
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jurb26
Footballguy
It will likely come down this year. That's a pretty ridiculous pace. While Patterson is capable of being the #1 WR in FF his opportunity and development still need expanded to get there. He's not elite and other guys are. I have a hard time envisioning guys who don't have a real opportunity to catch near 100 balls as the top WR. It's possible given his rushing acumen but it would be unprecedented.
Gene Sackman
Footballguy
Killer? Im a killer because I dont think your analysis said anything of substance? It didnt. I cant help that.
Milkman
Footballguy
I like that answer. Appreciate it and think it's pretty accurate. He could easily have less than 70 receptions by the end of the year. The question is does he have 5-6 rushing TD's and 700+ yards rushing to go along with those <70 receptions. That would likely vault him into top 10 WR in FF. It would be an odd way to get there though........
He's obviously elite at making plays with the ball in his hands. I would like to see him get behind the defense and catch some long TD's as well. He had a nice play like that against a backup in the preseason so he's getting there.
massraider
Footballguy
Teams have been keying AP for years, and he still gashes them. And most of the time, you know where he is. Patterson can be anywhere.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm watching the NFL rewind right now. CP has absolutely ridiculous second level speed. All it takes is one play with this guy in open space for him to be productive. Hell, hes so quick he lost his ####### cleat trying to cut after catching a short pass. His cleats can't keep up.
Faust
MVP
Bill Belichick: No regrets in Cordarrelle Patterson deal
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000392866/article/bill-belichick-no-regrets-in-cordarrelle-patterson-deal
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000392866/article/bill-belichick-no-regrets-in-cordarrelle-patterson-deal
cstu
Footballguy
It's nitpicking I know, but he's had one catch over 25 yards in his career. His 79 yard TD catch was a screen he caught in the backfield.
