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Andre Ellington - RB - Clemson. (1 Viewer)

modogg said:
Donnybrook said:
Game time decision for a Monday night game forces some of us to make an early lineup decision. I have no other Monday night options.
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i disagree, not a hard decision for me. The timid don't win fantasy championships. There is absolutely zero reason they would have him practice today if he wasn't going to play Monday night, so I am keeping him in there. My other option is Bernard Pierce.
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There's plenty of reason why he would be "on" the field. If the Chargers think he is fine and capable they HAVE to plan for a multifaceted back. If he is out then they can plan for a below average run game. I sometimes wonder if people forget that there are other results than fantasy lol.

 
modogg said:
Donnybrook said:
Game time decision for a Monday night game forces some of us to make an early lineup decision. I have no other Monday night options.
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i disagree, not a hard decision for me. The timid don't win fantasy championships. There is absolutely zero reason they would have him practice today if he wasn't going to play Monday night, so I am keeping him in there. My other option is Bernard Pierce.
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[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]If you don't have another player you can wait on for Monday night I think you'd have to be rather crazy to lean on Ellington and his GTD status. If I had another option like Pierce, who's at least [/SIZE]guaranteed[SIZE=14.4444446563721px] a legitimate workload, I'd probably go with him instead. Good luck either way.[/SIZE]

 
I know this isn't exactly the place for this but...

I've got sproles, mjd, hyde and j hill who I could plug in for ellington. PPR Scoring

What would you do?

 
modogg said:
Donnybrook said:
Game time decision for a Monday night game forces some of us to make an early lineup decision. I have no other Monday night options.
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i disagree, not a hard decision for me. The timid don't win fantasy championships. There is absolutely zero reason they would have him practice today if he wasn't going to play Monday night, so I am keeping him in there. My other option is Bernard Pierce.
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Keep in mind that it's certainly not clear how much he practiced. If he was out there in pads taking handoffs? Right on. But practice wasn't open to reporters. I think it's very risky to count on Ellington for Monday night unless you're holding Dwyer or an SD player you can use as a replacement.
 
"Well, that escalated quickly."

From someone noting that Beef Ellington had a swollen foot at practice, to his being declared out pretty much 8 weeks into the season...this is how the world of media and social networks go.

In the end, if I'm looking at this objectively -- here's the facts that I see:

1. He has a swollen foot that appears to be the continuence of a nagging situation he's had for a while.

2. Important note: this "nagging situation" did not prevent him from practicing previously or playing (well) in preseason games.

3. He had an MRI and saw some foot specialists. No "dire" diagnosis came out of this.

4. Even AFTER the MRI and the foot specialist visit, he was not ruled out of Monday night's game. Therefore, whatever they saw was not serious. Honestly, I don't think there's any question about it. If he has a 50-50 chance of playing (he's listed as Questionable, not Doubtful or Probable), then it's not serious.

5. Even AFTER the MRI and the foot specialist visit, he was practicing in pads and a helmet. Some are saying we don't know what "limited" means, but some guys limited are not in pads in a helmet, meaning they are just "walking through" and some have pads and a helmet, meaning they can take contact. I don't believe this is all some elaborate ruse by the coaches to fool SD. You are not going to risk injury to your starting RB on a silly "ruse."

All that said, I'm buying at face value that he is Questionable and GTD for Monday.

What that tells me fantasy wise:

a.) if you have a starting RB as a backup, even if that starting RB is so-so, it's probably safe to play him and sit Ellington. 50-50 is still not great odds.

b.) if you don't have a starting RB as a backup and will have to reach for a guy getting limited touches, I think the risk is worth leaving Ellington in your lineup.

Me, my next best option is Bishop Sankey, who may be good down the line but he may not even play on Sunday (our waiver wire takes place Wednesday so I can't pick someone else up.) So for me, I'm rolling with Ellington, because the risk is worth it. Sankey is not likely to get me more than a few points anyway, so might as well shoot high.

Good luck everyone in your games this weekend. This was a fun thread.

I'm still pissed at Glazer for pretending to be a doctor.

 
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MikeApf said:
"Well, that escalated quickly."

From someone noting that Beef Ellington had a swollen foot at practice, to his being declared out pretty much 8 weeks into the season...this is how the world of media and social networks go.

In the end, if I'm looking at this objectively -- here's the facts that I see:

1. He has a swollen foot that appears to be the continuence of a nagging situation he's had for a while.

2. Important note: this "nagging situation" did not prevent him from practicing previously or playing (well) in preseason games.

3. He had an MRI and saw some foot specialists. No "dire" diagnosis came out of this.

4. Even AFTER the MRI and the foot specialist visit, he was not ruled out of Monday night's game. Therefore, whatever they saw was not serious. Honestly, I don't think there's any question about it. If he has a 50-50 chance of playing (he's listed as Questionable, not Doubtful or Probable), then it's not serious.

5. Even AFTER the MRI and the foot specialist visit, he was practicing in pads and a helmet. Some are saying we don't know what "limited" means, but some guys limited are not in pads in a helmet, meaning they are just "walking through" and some have pads and a helmet, meaning they can take contact. I don't believe this is all some elaborate ruse by the coaches to fool SD. You are not going to risk injury to your starting RB on a silly "ruse."

All that said, I'm buying at face value that he is Questionable and GTD for Monday.

What that tells me fantasy wise:

a.) if you have a starting RB as a backup, even if that starting RB is so-so, it's probably safe to play him and sit Ellington. 50-50 is still not great odds.

b.) if you don't have a starting RB as a backup and will have to reach for a guy getting limited touches, I think the risk is worth leaving Ellington in your lineup.

Me, my next best option is Bishop Sankey, who may be good down the line but he may not even play on Sunday (our waiver wire takes place Wednesday so I can't pick someone else up.) So for me, I'm rolling with Ellington, because the risk is worth it. Sankey is not likely to get me more than a few points anyway, so might as well shoot high.

Good luck everyone in your games this weekend. This was a fun thread.

I'm still pissed at Glazer for pretending to be a doctor.
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This is a man who get sit. Well said sir.

 
Andre Ellington's injury is to his peroneus longus.


It's a muscle that helps flex the ankle and Ellington has a little tear in it, per Jay Glazer. FOX Sports 910's Mike Jurecki is hearing that Ellington has two options now that doctors have decided against surgery. He can either put a boot on for 2-3 weeks to strengthen the muscle before returning, or he can simply try to gut it out and play in a limited capacity Monday night. Owners should be hoping Ellington chooses the rest path, but we won't know until about 90 minutes before gametime tomorrow.


Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter
Sep 7 - 7:40 PM

 
I'm rolling with Ellington tonight but I'd almost rather him be OUT so that I could feel more confident that Dwyer would be the guy. Weird to say, I know. It's just possible that Ellington goes out there, does not feel healthy, and Dwyer comes in and plays anyway.

 
Andre Ellington's foot sore after 18 touches Monday

by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com
(4 hrs ago) Cardinals running back Andre Ellington said his left foot was "more sore than in pain" following Monday's win over the Chargers. Ellington, who was iffy entering the game, didn't seem too limited by the injury.He ran 13 times for 53 yards (4.1 ypc) and caught all five of his targets for 27 yards. Ellington showed his trademark burst on an 18-yard jaunt in the fourth quarter. He has a short week to get ready for Sunday's game at the Giants.

 
leave a whisper said:
Andre Ellington's foot sore after 18 touches Monday

by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com(4 hrs ago) Cardinals running back Andre Ellington said his left foot was "more sore than in pain" following Monday's win over the Chargers. Ellington, who was iffy entering the game, didn't seem too limited by the injury.

He ran 13 times for 53 yards (4.1 ypc) and caught all five of his targets for 27 yards. Ellington showed his trademark burst on an 18-yard jaunt in the fourth quarter. He has a short week to get ready for Sunday's game at the Giants.
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Okay, I'll bite....WTF does that mean??

 
DoubleG said:
leave a whisper said:
Andre Ellington's foot sore after 18 touches Monday

by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com

(4 hrs ago) Cardinals running back Andre Ellington said his left foot was "more sore than in pain" following Monday's win over the Chargers. Ellington, who was iffy entering the game, didn't seem too limited by the injury.

He ran 13 times for 53 yards (4.1 ypc) and caught all five of his targets for 27 yards. Ellington showed his trademark burst on an 18-yard jaunt in the fourth quarter. He has a short week to get ready for Sunday's game at the Giants.
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Okay, I'll bite....WTF does that mean??
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A reporter probably asked him something like "Andre, great win for the team tonight, how's your foot feel? Are you in pain?"
 
We Tigers said:
DoubleG said:
leave a whisper said:
Andre Ellington's foot sore after 18 touches Monday

by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com

(4 hrs ago) Cardinals running back Andre Ellington said his left foot was "more sore than in pain" following Monday's win over the Chargers. Ellington, who was iffy entering the game, didn't seem too limited by the injury.

He ran 13 times for 53 yards (4.1 ypc) and caught all five of his targets for 27 yards. Ellington showed his trademark burst on an 18-yard jaunt in the fourth quarter. He has a short week to get ready for Sunday's game at the Giants.
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Okay, I'll bite....WTF does that mean??
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A reporter probably asked him something like "Andre, great win for the team tonight, how's your foot feel? Are you in pain?"
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OK, I saw the Giants game last night. There is no way in Hades that I sit him vs. the Giants.

I'm not saying he's perfectly fine, but from what I saw, he was moving around pretty well on that foot.

As for him feeling sore, um...HE IS PLAYING NFL FOOTBALL! :-)

 
Yep. He's got another week to heal up and plays a Giants team that got beat repeatedly on Reggie Bush quick hitters. Their front four was pretty good at stopping the run, but it's got potential to be a big receiving day for him.

 
Have to hand it to the guy - he showed some toughness in playing through the pain, and playing well.

Have to think that Arians is pleased as well.

 
False Start said:
I think last night confirmed, Dwyer sucks. For those who thought otherwise, and I dont know why anyone would have.
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lmao. Ellington looked great on 18 touches at about 80 percent... Give him a week or two and he will be avg 5 ypc and reeling in a ton of catches... Time to get back aboard gents I know some of you fell off the train but I have been in the capt seat full steam ahead. Choo Choo

 
T with T said:
False Start said:
I think last night confirmed, Dwyer sucks. For those who thought otherwise, and I dont know why anyone would have.
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lmao. Ellington looked great on 18 touches at about 80 percent... Give him a week or two and he will be avg 5 ypc and reeling in a ton of catches... Time to get back aboard gents I know some of you fell off the train but I have been in the capt seat full steam ahead. Choo Choo
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He said "Dwyer"

"lmao" :shrug:

 
LittlePhatty said:
T with T said:
False Start said:
I think last night confirmed, Dwyer sucks. For those who thought otherwise, and I dont know why anyone would have.
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lmao. Ellington looked great on 18 touches at about 80 percent... Give him a week or two and he will be avg 5 ypc and reeling in a ton of catches... Time to get back aboard gents I know some of you fell off the train but I have been in the capt seat full steam ahead. Choo Choo
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He said "Dwyer"

"lmao" :shrug:
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D w y e r is a Load... not very talented just a guy. Not very skilled at anything just there. I think Ellington goes to 20-23 touches this week vs giants... the 18 were just a break in game since he aggravated inj just a few days before. I belive Ellington will be a great choice going forward...

 
it's funny the ones that said he was a change of pace and could only handle 4 carries a game and he had no toughness... I think he proved a lot playing thru pain last night. Toughness.

 
If you look back a few pages I mentioned to you to please not panic, and I was chastised. Since I can say it without getting chastised again, dont panic when some guy from the radio just shouts out injury news without any substantiated reports.

 
I'm interested in what the Ellington owners will do this week. Are you starting him for sure if he's active? Do you have other options you can insert if you're concerned with Ellington's injury flaring up vs. the Giants again?

 
jdoggydogg said:
I'm interested in what the Ellington owners will do this week. Are you starting him for sure if he's active? Do you have other options you can insert if you're concerned with Ellington's injury flaring up vs. the Giants again?
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Dont get fooled, he will play next week if he did this week. Unless is becomes an issue that needs surgery. He would not have played if he did not get doctors support.

Play him as you would.

 
I was glad I sat him. The situation was too much to risk for a Monday game. Fred Jackson ended up with more.

This week its all systems go though. That giants defense looks bad.

 
Jerry Curl said:
jdoggydogg said:
I'm interested in what the Ellington owners will do this week. Are you starting him for sure if he's active? Do you have other options you can insert if you're concerned with Ellington's injury flaring up vs. the Giants again?
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Dont get fooled, he will play next week if he did this week. Unless is becomes an issue that needs surgery. He would not have played if he did not get doctors support.

Play him as you would.
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Yeah, I'm not panicking at all. Still love the guy's game.

 
He plays in the early game, so we should know in time to make lineup changes. If he plays, I'm starting him.

I'm sure this will be discussed during the week by medical fantasy experts, but I really want to hear if this is something that he will be dealing with all season if he doesn't rest it. I heard he is in a boot today for precautionary reasons. Is him playing each week keeping this thing from completely healing?

 
Insein said:
I was glad I sat him. The situation was too much to risk for a Monday game. Fred Jackson ended up with more.

This week its all systems go though. That giants defense looks bad.
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Their run defense didn't look that bad if u ask me...in fact, it looked like the only promising thing going for them. Bell/Bush rushed 24 times with a 2.75 ypc last night. Their secondary looked putrid however which is surprising considering their additions this year...

 
chihawk said:
He plays in the early game, so we should know in time to make lineup changes. If he plays, I'm starting him.

I'm sure this will be discussed during the week by medical fantasy experts, but I really want to hear if this is something that he will be dealing with all season if he doesn't rest it. I heard he is in a boot today for precautionary reasons. Is him playing each week keeping this thing from completely healing?
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Fair point. On the positive front, the team's bye is week 4, so he just has to gut it out a few more games, stay healthy, and then will have two weeks to rest the foot.

 
I know this is coming from a guy who doesn't care about the Cardinals and only cares about Ellington for fantasy purposes, but I really wish they would have just let him sit a week. Do they really want a non-100% Ellington all year or does it make more sense to sit him for a couple weeks and have him at 100% the rest of the year?

 
If they were going to sit him out one week, I would think it would most likely be Week 3. He could play Sunday and then not have another game until Week 5.

 
Saw this come across Rotoworld moments ago.

Andre Ellington (foot) can't make his injury worse by playing on it.
We assumed this was the case, otherwise the Cardinals wouldn't have risked Ellington's health in Monday night's opener. "You’re never going to be 100 percent until March as a running back in the National Football League," coach Bruce Arians said Tuesday. Ellington isn't expected to practice Wednesday, but will likely return to a limited session on Thursday. Having proven he can be effective at less than 100 percent, Ellington will be an RB2 for Sunday's game against the Giants.
 
Jerry Curl said:
Saw this come across Rotoworld moments ago.

Andre Ellington (foot) can't make his injury worse by playing on it.
We assumed this was the case, otherwise the Cardinals wouldn't have risked Ellington's health in Monday night's opener. "You’re never going to be 100 percent until March as a running back in the National Football League," coach Bruce Arians said Tuesday. Ellington isn't expected to practice Wednesday, but will likely return to a limited session on Thursday. Having proven he can be effective at less than 100 percent, Ellington will be an RB2 for Sunday's game against the Giants.
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Did hear Stephania Bell speak about Ellington the other day? She said he looked good, and that he was using his lower body to drive tacklers forward. Sounded pretty positive.

 
Rotoworld:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians was encouraged by the way Andre Ellington's foot bounced back from Monday night's 18 touches.

"A lot less sore than he thought he was going to be," Arians said. "It’s much better than we hoped." Ellington missed Wednesday's practice, sporting a precautionary boot on his foot, but he'll likely get in limited reps by Friday and is on track to start this week's game against the Giants. As long as Ellington's workload stays steady, he's an every-week RB2 in PPR leagues.

Sep 10 - 8:31 PM

Source: azcardinals.com
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Not trying to be negative nancy on Ellington, but I'm concerned about this game. in PPR, yeah he's probably gonna catch 5 or 6 passes. In standard, I'd be concerned about the yardage totals. NYG can focus on shutting down Ellington and daring Stanton to beat them.

Wouldn't be surprised if we see Logan Thomas before this is over with.

 
JFS171 said:
Not trying to be negative nancy on Ellington, but I'm concerned about this game. in PPR, yeah he's probably gonna catch 5 or 6 passes. In standard, I'd be concerned about the yardage totals. NYG can focus on shutting down Ellington and daring Stanton to beat them.

Wouldn't be surprised if we see Logan Thomas before this is over with.
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I think you'll be surprised with Stanton.

 
Eminence said:
JFS171 said:
Not trying to be negative nancy on Ellington, but I'm concerned about this game. in PPR, yeah he's probably gonna catch 5 or 6 passes. In standard, I'd be concerned about the yardage totals. NYG can focus on shutting down Ellington and daring Stanton to beat them.

Wouldn't be surprised if we see Logan Thomas before this is over with.
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I think you'll be surprised with Stanton.
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27/38 passing for 71.1%, 341 yards, 3 TDs, no INT's during the preseason this year. He can be inaccurate, but he can sling it and is certainly more mobile than Palmer.ETA: He actually looked better than Palmer in the preseason... Doesn't mean much but I don't think it's a huge dropoff.

 
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Even still, with Ellington clearly less than 100% and a backup QB, I'd side with alternatives if they're solid (I'm going with Gerhart against a Coefield-less Redskins front in a standard).

 
bulger2holt said:
Don't think I would bench Ellington in a PPR. he will catch 5-8 balls
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Agreed, I'm not sure I see Stanton as a reason to worry, at least in PPR. Ellington will be the safety valve/check down and I think 5-8 catches is definitely possible.

 
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blake said:
bulger2holt said:
Don't think I would bench Ellington in a PPR. he will catch 5-8 balls
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Agreed, I'm not sure I see Stanton as a reason to worry, at least in PPR. Ellington will be the safety valve/check down and I think 5-8 catches is definitely possible.
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Start Ellington over P.Thomas in PPR, considering the matchups, QB situation, and foot issue?

 
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