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2024 Outlook for Ravens RBs - Does the arrival of King Henry signal the end of the perpetual RBBC ? (1 Viewer)
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i know that was tongue in cheek, but I have thought the same thing as far as his influence went. Lewis was a a big brother to a lot of these guys.
steveski
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It was. I dislike Ray Lewis because of how the media treats him. It makes me cringe every time I see people praising him. I don't know how people can just ignore the whole murder situation he was involved in. If Hernandez was found not guilty and he returned to football and talked about god a lot and was positive in the locker room, would people love him and praise him too?
To his credit though, he really did change his life afterwards. That's another reason why I think he was guilty, but that's not important for this. He really did bring a positive environment in the locker room and a lot of the guys looked up to him.
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Braktastic
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Riffraff said:
Pick 4.01.
Coeur de Lion
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I'm sure Rice is absolutely devastated that he lost out on some reps during OTAs. Love Harbaugh taking such a strong anti-domestic violence stance here. Huge win for battered women around the world.
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People get multigame suspensions for taking Sudafed. If I was the commish, he'd miss a year.
ROYALWITCHEESE
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"The New York Post's Bart Hubbuch "keep(s) hearing" Ray Rice's suspension could span 4-6 games in connection with his offseason assault charge, or "maybe even more."
Hubbuch is hearing the discipline will be "significant." The NFL has received negative press for strict suspensions levied against pot smokers, while crimes viewed as more sinister like assaulting women get lesser discipline. Commissioner Roger Goodell could use Rice as an example to show the NFL will take hitting women more seriously. A 4-6 game suspension would swing the door wide open for Bernard Pierce, or Justin Forsett, or Lorenzo Taliaffero to run with the feature back job in new OC Gary Kubiak's running back-friendly offense."
LOL So somewhere between 4 and 16 games.
Hubbuch is hearing the discipline will be "significant." The NFL has received negative press for strict suspensions levied against pot smokers, while crimes viewed as more sinister like assaulting women get lesser discipline. Commissioner Roger Goodell could use Rice as an example to show the NFL will take hitting women more seriously. A 4-6 game suspension would swing the door wide open for Bernard Pierce, or Justin Forsett, or Lorenzo Taliaffero to run with the feature back job in new OC Gary Kubiak's running back-friendly offense."
LOL So somewhere between 4 and 16 games.
ROYALWITCHEESE
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Expecting 4-6, but "maybe more". Just speculation at how ridiculous their predictions are...
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Jeremy
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You have to think they're going to want to push back hard against the narrative that the NFL cares more about players smoking weed than beating up women. If I've heard that 100 times, Goodell must have heard it a million.
And that press conference was a bad look for the NFL. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him lose half a season for this.
And that press conference was a bad look for the NFL. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him lose half a season for this.
ROYALWITCHEESE
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We've heard literally nothing about Cierre Wood since they signed him. Guess that means he sucks? He was looking good for Houston prior to getting kicked off the team for rules violation...
I have an issue with that narrative being spread around social media. I can't imagine a situation where anyone thinks smoking weed is a worse crime than domestic assault. I think people forget the year long suspension for weed comes after the third infraction, not the first. Also, has it ever been confirmed that Rice actually punched or hit her and knocked her out? Are we sure she wasn't slapping the crap out of him and he pushed her off a little too hard and she hit her head into the wall or something? Not that it makes it right but it does make a difference. I think a 6 game suspension for a first time offense that was dropped in court and both parties are taking blame is fair and more harsh than a first time weed suspension.
Skeletore Eh
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Bernard Pierce- RB - Ravens
Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome indicated he is anticipating a run-based offense under new OC Gary Kubiak.
Kubiak's Texans offenses were most successful when leaning on his zone-run game to set up designed vertical shot plays. "It’s very precise," said Newsome of Kubiak's scheme. "It’s physical. I think we’ll run the ball better, we’ll keep the ball more and we’ll have big plays." With Ray Rice facing a suspension, Bernard Pierce should get the first crack at Ravens lead-back duties.
Source: baltimoreravens.com
Jun 27 - 2:44 PM
Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome indicated he is anticipating a run-based offense under new OC Gary Kubiak.
Kubiak's Texans offenses were most successful when leaning on his zone-run game to set up designed vertical shot plays. "It’s very precise," said Newsome of Kubiak's scheme. "It’s physical. I think we’ll run the ball better, we’ll keep the ball more and we’ll have big plays." With Ray Rice facing a suspension, Bernard Pierce should get the first crack at Ravens lead-back duties.
Source: baltimoreravens.com
Jun 27 - 2:44 PM
Skeletore Eh
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Bernard Pierce- RB - Ravens
The Baltimore Sun calls Bernard Pierce (shoulder surgery) the "obvious favorite" to open the season as the Ravens' lead back.
The Sun questions whether Pierce will be utilized as an "every-down back," however, citing the 24-year-old's struggles in "blitz pick up and catching the ball out of the backfield." Justin Forsett excels in each of the latter areas. While Ray Rice is suspended, we may see Pierce used as Gary Kubiak's early-down workhorse and goal-line back, with Forsett playing on passing downs.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Jun 30 - 2:24 PM
The Baltimore Sun calls Bernard Pierce (shoulder surgery) the "obvious favorite" to open the season as the Ravens' lead back.
The Sun questions whether Pierce will be utilized as an "every-down back," however, citing the 24-year-old's struggles in "blitz pick up and catching the ball out of the backfield." Justin Forsett excels in each of the latter areas. While Ray Rice is suspended, we may see Pierce used as Gary Kubiak's early-down workhorse and goal-line back, with Forsett playing on passing downs.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Jun 30 - 2:24 PM
renesauz
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I agree with this. 4 games seems a good guess, with 6 being possible. Too high profile to be much less than 4 though.
Skeletore Eh
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Ray Rice - RB - Ravens
PFT's Mike Florio says a multi-game suspension for Ray Rice "should be the assumption."
Rice has already visited the league office to discuss the assault charges stemming from an incident with his fiancee turned wife. He has no previous violations of the personal conduct policy, but it's possible Roger Goodell has seen surveillance video of Rice striking Janay Palmer in an Atlantic City casino. Projections for Rice's ban have ranged from two to six games. Josh Gordon is facing a year-long ban for repeated marijuana violations.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com Jul 14 - 8:00 AM
PFT's Mike Florio says a multi-game suspension for Ray Rice "should be the assumption."
Rice has already visited the league office to discuss the assault charges stemming from an incident with his fiancee turned wife. He has no previous violations of the personal conduct policy, but it's possible Roger Goodell has seen surveillance video of Rice striking Janay Palmer in an Atlantic City casino. Projections for Rice's ban have ranged from two to six games. Josh Gordon is facing a year-long ban for repeated marijuana violations.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com Jul 14 - 8:00 AM
Shutout
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The only problem with this is that the NFL can always be heavy-handed when it comes to drugs and alcohol. It's easy to get people emotionally charged up about DUI, people killing people with their cars, drugs ruining lives, etc.
Now, domestic violence? Yes, it is bad. Very bad. Deplorable to most. But it is something that doesn't have the same impact (not trying to stir a pot but it simply doesn't). So many well-known people, along with all us common Joes, get a domestic call. Couple fight, things happen and the very first thing people in the media look for is if its a Tiger WOods story. Was he cheating. Was She? Were there drugs and alcohol (there they are again) involved? If none of the above are included, then it becomes last hour's news in no time because ultimately it is a he said/she said story where you can't blow into a breathalyzer. You can even show video of a guy punching a lady out. But you can show me one of a girl going ape-SH#@ on a guy too and when's the last time you saw a girl get into significant trouble for hitting a guy?
Just too many loose ends. Most people can say that was the reaction, not the action. That girl was doing this __________.
But in the end, what it ultimately comes down to is with each week of suspension, you are costing that player big $$$....his livelihood and the NFLPA can stand behind that easier than anything and even easier when the shield can't show "he drove drunk" or "his system said he was drunk, etc." Basically, these suspensions are tone setters and subjective and those usually don't fly as easy.
I expect 4 games and a lot of very well-thought out reasoning. But if he gets half a season or more, I think he plays 4-6 just waiting for a very convoluted appeal process. You can't take and annual salary away from a NFL player with a very short playing window without having some danged good reasoning, evidence.
Skeletore Eh
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Bernard Pierce - RB - Ravens
Bernard Pierce said he has a "knack" for new OC Gary Kubiak's kind of offense.
Pierce was a disaster last season, slogging through 16 games at a pathetic 2.86 YPC. But he was battling a litany of injuries that included problems with his shoulder, hamstring, knee and toe. Now he's fully healthy, back near his ideal playing weight and Ray Rice is facing a suspension. Pierce's extremely impressive rookie tape has us willing to take a shot on a bounce-back campaign.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Jul 23 - 10:36 AM
Bernard Pierce said he has a "knack" for new OC Gary Kubiak's kind of offense.
Pierce was a disaster last season, slogging through 16 games at a pathetic 2.86 YPC. But he was battling a litany of injuries that included problems with his shoulder, hamstring, knee and toe. Now he's fully healthy, back near his ideal playing weight and Ray Rice is facing a suspension. Pierce's extremely impressive rookie tape has us willing to take a shot on a bounce-back campaign.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Jul 23 - 10:36 AM
karmarooster
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What a mess. Boycott the Ravens; support Josh Gordon.
Skeletore Eh
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Ray Rice - RB - Ravens
Yahoo's Rand Getlin is "hearing" that Ray Rice's suspension will be for two games.
Getlin admits he hasn't been able to confirm this rumor and Rice hasn't been sentenced on the matter yet, so we're not setting it in stone. But if Rice does escape with a mere two-game ban, it's going to be a public relations nightmare for the NFL. He assaulted his fiancee (now wife), while Josh Gordon is facing a 16-game ban for marijuana violations. Bernard Pierce will be the feature back while Rice serves his suspension.
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Source: Rand Getlin on Twitter
Jul 24 - 9:34 AM
Yahoo's Rand Getlin is "hearing" that Ray Rice's suspension will be for two games.
Getlin admits he hasn't been able to confirm this rumor and Rice hasn't been sentenced on the matter yet, so we're not setting it in stone. But if Rice does escape with a mere two-game ban, it's going to be a public relations nightmare for the NFL. He assaulted his fiancee (now wife), while Josh Gordon is facing a 16-game ban for marijuana violations. Bernard Pierce will be the feature back while Rice serves his suspension.
Related: Bernard Pierce
Source: Rand Getlin on Twitter
Jul 24 - 9:34 AM
Wise Old Owl
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This is such a narrow minded way to look at things. Rice should probably get more than two games but it's his first offense unlike Gordon. Gordon is facing a year because of multiple offenses, not because the NFL punishes weed more severely than domestic abuse.
False Start
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I would say bump Pierce, but he is not any good either.
karmarooster
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karmarooster
Footballguy
You should probably be dropping Pierce... most people were expecting Rice to get more than 2 games.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
2 games seems minimal. This news should boost Rice's redraft value, no?
False Start
Footballguy
So I smoke weed often, does that make me a worse person than a guy who beats his wife? I think Gordon should be suspended, but how do you suspend him more for smoking weed? This should be interesting.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
Pierce will get at least 2 games to prove he deserves more playing time. He will have to loose the starting job, it will not be handed to Ray Rice for game 3. The Ravens might even add to the suspension once Rice completes Goddell's ruling, that is just speculation on my part, I haven't read that anywhere.
JohnnyU
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Skeletore Eh
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Ray Rice - RB - Ravens
NFL suspended Ray Rice for the first two games of the 2014 season.
Rice was arraigned on felony aggravated assault charges following an ugly April domestic incident with his fiancee (now wife) at an Atlantic City hotel. He avoided trial by completing a pretrial-intervention program, and this is his first violation of the league's personal conduct policy. Still, it's a bad look for the NFL as Rice gets off lightly while Josh Gordon faces a 16-game ban for marijuana. As for the on-field fallout, Bernard Pierce will serve as the feature back and quality RB2 against the Bengals in Week 1 and Steelers in Week 2. Rice will have to show improved form to wrestle back his starting job after looking done in 2013 (3.08 YPC).
Related: Bernard Pierce
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 24 - 10:15 AM
NFL suspended Ray Rice for the first two games of the 2014 season.
Rice was arraigned on felony aggravated assault charges following an ugly April domestic incident with his fiancee (now wife) at an Atlantic City hotel. He avoided trial by completing a pretrial-intervention program, and this is his first violation of the league's personal conduct policy. Still, it's a bad look for the NFL as Rice gets off lightly while Josh Gordon faces a 16-game ban for marijuana. As for the on-field fallout, Bernard Pierce will serve as the feature back and quality RB2 against the Bengals in Week 1 and Steelers in Week 2. Rice will have to show improved form to wrestle back his starting job after looking done in 2013 (3.08 YPC).
Related: Bernard Pierce
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 24 - 10:15 AM
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