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RB Damien Williams, ATL (5 Viewers)
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modogg
Footballguy
and assuming they don't want to save him for the playoffs. I can see his touches getting to 8-10 from week 10 on to rest him a bit for the playoffs
hamsterdam
Footballguy
If he’s healthy, I think Damien sends Darrel back to the bench for the time being. He didn’t play great the first two games but then again it was only two games. Plus he did fine in week 1 with a TD.
If he stinks it up, he’ll likely lose his job to Darrel but I think Damien is going to come back and resume his half share of this backfield for now.
If he stinks it up, he’ll likely lose his job to Darrel but I think Damien is going to come back and resume his half share of this backfield for now.
Damien was ahead of the other two (not Mccoy) coming out of preseason. There is no reason to expect he is lower than second fiddle behind Mccoy. And it already appears Mccoy is not a full workload guy so Damien should have value.
I am hoping his time away gave him a little focus and he comes out hot this week.
I am hoping his time away gave him a little focus and he comes out hot this week.
dkp993
Footballguy
Agreed, especially as DWill is the better pass catcher. He won the job initially so there’s no reason to think it still not his.
Deamon
Footballguy
Because they never really saw what Darrel would do in games with a full workload. He looks like the best back on the team. Would be quite surprised if Damien just takes over the 15 touch starting job once he's back.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Also didn't see this level of talk from Reid about how much he trusts Damien like he did about Darrel -- and backed that talk up by playing him in key situations over Shady even after the fumble.
Realistically, I am expecting that when Damien is fully healed, he'll be the back behind Shady -- it's the most probable outcome, and one as a Darrel owner I am fully prepared for.
But there absolutely is a non-zero chance that either Damien and Darrel split that role, and even that they continue to use Darrel as the primary second back -- let's not pretend that players losing their job to injury and having a guy pop off and/or gain the coach's trust in the meantime never happens in the NFL.
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Deamon
Footballguy
This.
I guess it totally could go either way. I just have a gut feeling that Andy sees what he has in Darrel now and isn't going to send him right to the bench. He should ideally keep all three fresh for playoffs.
hamsterdam
Footballguy
It's Wed but Shady limited while Damien got in a full practice.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I have a feeling I’m not going to be able to start either Williams this week
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I might have to eat some crow but the coaches were very familiar with both Williams and they felt Damien was closer to a starter coming out of preseason. I would trust the decision over a larger sample than this small sample where the other one played - but just in the 4th q.
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Chaka
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Yeah, complete hindsight. He was going, roughly, as How many RBs in that tier have legitimate upside to finish in the top 5?He has to be my biggest regretted drafting person over the last 10 years. Mostly because I knew going into it and he was on my do not draft last, was never a fan for multiple reasons. But he was the last RB left in his tier group and so I panicked and grabbed him. Post draft then I talked myself into it being a good pick because he was the lead back on the top offense. Lesson learned to trust your prep and stick to your guns (you would think after 20 years of drafting I wouldn’t need to be reminding myself of this).
You don't have to be an amazing talent to finish as a #1 (or super-upper-elite) RB in this offense.
He was a great high-risk-high-reward option at his ADP.
dkp993
Footballguy
I don’t disagree, and this is how I justified it. But for me the risk to reward ratio was much higher then I tend to take at that ADP.
Chaka
Footballguy
And if he hadn't been hurt you'd be fine with your investment right now. #### happens.
And he has plenty of opportunity to justify the pick going forward.
Just saying to not give up just yet
dkp993
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Reid played Damien over Darrel last year. Doesn't that demonstrate trust in Damien over Darrel? And then they went out and signed McCoy over both of them. I think this becomes a 3-way RBBC mess when all three are healthy.
Chaka
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Could be. There's the other school of thought that Reid kept Darrel around as a fourth back even though he drafted Thompson this year.
This really is one of the more intriguing situations, and I think this game at least will start to fill in some of the picture.
That said, if Damien is healthy, I fully expect him to be given his role back. Another probability is that Damien doesn't fare as well coming back and Reid continues to use Darrel as a hammer and at the stripe. Which will means the 3RBBC mess becomes more likely.
Super interesting situation.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I have both D Williams in a league and am going to have to flex one of them this week
Id put the odds of me starting the wrong one at about 95%
Id put the odds of me starting the wrong one at about 95%
dkp993
Footballguy
With those odds could you let me know which one you choose to start. Please and thank you.I have both D Williams in a league and am going to have to flex one of them this week
Id put the odds of me starting the wrong one at about 95%
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I don't see how you can do anything (aside form flexing someone else entirely) but use Damien. Nothing about this says he'll lose his RB2 role to injury, and will be given his slot behind Shady.I have both D Williams in a league and am going to have to flex one of them this week
Id put the odds of me starting the wrong one at about 95%
This does not meant that Darrel doesn't play at all, or isn't given goal line work or replace Shady in the 4th. This also doesn't preclude Damien from looking pedestrian and Reid just using Darrel from there in-game.
But from pure likelihood of volume, if you have to start one of them, would think safest bet is to go with Damien, and hope for the best.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Yes
To make things even more ridiculous,, if Mack doesn’t play I will have to play both Williams’
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ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Yep. Same. I got Damien and Shady. If all 3 go I think I'm just gonna bench em both until the situation clears up. I could play both of them but I also own Ekeler/Melvin, and they're a lot stronger of a duo. Might just go WR for my flex this week.I have both D Williams in a league and am going to have to flex one of them this week
Id put the odds of me starting the wrong one at about 95%
rockaction
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Yup. He's got his role carved out, but the others don't.
My guess? Back against a wall? Damien resumes his role but cedes goal line touches to Darrel. That would be my guess.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Damian owner just offered me Curtis Samuel for him. It was tempting since I’ve got Hill & Adams on the bench hurt, but I opted to wait & see - told him I’d revisit if Adams & Hill weren’t back in 2 weeks. My BYE isn’t until week 8, so why deal Darrell now? Shady or Damian could easily go down in the next couple weeks.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Deciding Damien (have Darrel too) and Melvin Gordon. Uncertainty all around this week. If I had to guess, Damien gets back his role but who knows.
dkp993
Footballguy
Sure hope not, starting him over Howard and need his normal work load.
I’m thinking he won this job last year with the other DWill on the roster and did the same this offseason. He should earn it back now.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Only 11 rushes so far overall in this game, so hard to know what this game means to how this situation could pan out.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Only 11 touches in a game where Mahommes is clearly hobbled only contributes to it being a mess. Damien seems to be ahead of Darrell. But the one role that seemed to be safe was McCoy and now even that seems to be a question mark
IheartGuinness
Footballguy
Anyone starting? Or have we all moved beyond him now?
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Holding but benched until he shows something, his stats have been awful when he's played.
dkp993
Footballguy
IheartGuinness
Footballguy
dkp993
Footballguy
Had the beggars choice of him, Howard and Malcom Brown. Went with DWill and Brown.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Seeing the other Williams with that catch and run doesn't make me feel good, but lots of game left.
