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Adrian Peterson Status Updates (3 Viewers)
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Shutout
Footballguy
No way. He has won 6 popularity contests. Big deal. No Super Bowls, no history of playoff achievement, ranks behind guys like Otis Anderson, warric Dunn, and tho as jones in career yards.
There's not enough to put him in the hall anytime soon.
That being said, he's not retiring (although, the pros always say that by the time you start talking about it out loud, you are already checked out mentally and should)
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General Tso
Guest
LOL. If Adrian Peterson isn't a Hall of Famer I don't know who is.
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Dizzy
Footballguy
Not the 1st ballot. Still have to get VOTED in... and if the last chapter ends with shunned from the league for being a child abuser, good luck getting those votes.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Automatic, instant HOFer.
cstu
Footballguy
2nd highest YPC of an RB with over 10,000 yards and the highest TD/game:
NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Barry Sanders rb 1989--1998 153 3062 15269 4.99 99 352 2921 8.30 10 2473.02 Adrian Peterson rb 2007--2014 104 2056 10199 4.96 86 208 1715 8.25 5 1737.43 Tiki Barber rb 1997--2006 154 2216 10448 4.71 55 586 5183 8.84 12 1965.14 O.J. Simpson rb 1969--1979 135 2404 11236 4.67 61 203 2142 10.55 14 1787.85 Fred Taylor rb 1998--2010 153 2534 11695 4.62 66 290 2384 8.22 8 1851.96 Frank Gore rb 2005--2014 145 2381 10737 4.51 62 340 2878 8.46 11 1799.57 Eric Dickerson rb 1983--1993 146 2996 13259 4.43 90 281 2137 7.60 6 2119.48 Walter Payton rb 1975--1987 190 3838 16726 4.36 110 492 4538 9.22 15 2876.49 Tony Dorsett rb 1977--1988 173 2936 12739 4.34 77 398 3554 8.93 13 2169.310 Marshall Faulk rb 1994--2005 176 2836 12279 4.33 100 767 6875 8.96 36 2731.411 L.Tomlinson rb 2001--2011 170 3174 13684 4.31 145 624 4772 7.65 17 2852.8Or maybe he just won some popularity contests...
Most people won't care next season, they sure won't care in 5+ years.msommer said:
I doubt he retires but I love his comments. He went to far disciplining his child and did something which last season would have gotten anywhere from a zero to 4 game suspension, probably closer to zero. Instead he got used as the NFL's pawn for what they would terms as "wanting to do the right thing and send a clear message" but anyone with a brain knows he was a victim of the leagues incompetent handling of the Ray Rice situation. He got tricked into going on the exempt list by both the NFL and Vikings who have been working hand in hand to keep him off the field this season. He got suspended the final 6 games, will lose over $4 million in pay, lost endorsement money, got his reinstatement date set way after FA starts so that most teams will have plowed through their money and addressed RB, got publicly lectured by Roger G and then had to go through a sham of an appeal process that finally resulted in an NFL crony issuing almost the same exact public statement(s) that Roger G said when he publicly admonished him. And if all that was not enough they want him to beg his way back into the NFL and jump through their hoops so he can come back where he would face dried up market due to age, timing and teams using his PR issue against them to leverage him into a below market deal.
Not sure how after all of that he could not consider walking away if he's got enough money. Hopefully he wins his federal lawsuit so at least he does not have to beg his way in the league and can hit FA earlier than April 15th.
Times like these make me miss Al Davis. He would not have have been afraid to be that one owner to speak up about this, he would not have been afraid to sign a guy like Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson if he though they would help his team win. If he was alive the Raiders would have been that one team that would have provided hope to those players crushed by the social media lynch mob and deemed toxic. That's good for the game no matter how you slice it to have that option, but now the NFL is just made up of a bunch of owners more concerned with keeping the cash flowing.
The popular retort to what I just wrote is well he should not have beaten his kid. Good for all your moral high grounders who feel that way and may I say I hope you enjoy your new NFL with your stars not playing, with policies and over the top punishments that are starting to mirror the the same overcriminalization seen in everyday American life, the everyday life most of use used to like to watch football to help forget about.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
He has shown zero actual remorse. I hope he's done.msommer said:
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Audio just came out from ABC/GMA on Mike and Mike.
Not good for the league. Goodell has got to go, he can not control his house. D Smith was on MnM and they are filing suit in Federal Court today.
D Smith said the league should be embarrassed and cant say I disagree.
Not good for the league. Goodell has got to go, he can not control his house. D Smith was on MnM and they are filing suit in Federal Court today.
D Smith said the league should be embarrassed and cant say I disagree.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Who are you to say he has or hasnt shown remorse? Didnt know Peterson had to show remorse to you.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
If they sue I'm thinking AP wins. The threat or actual appearance of Goodell on the stand before a truly independent judge has resulted in withdrawal of suspensions (bountygate) and outright reversal of suspension (Rice). Goodell is 0-2, he is about to go 0-3.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
I have been firm saying this case is the end of Goodell. Goodell is not bigger then the shield either, he can not be trusted by the union. If the union had balls they would strike. Cant wait for the people to say "They aint striking because of Peterson." Those people clearly do not realize as D Smith has said this is bigger then Peterson. No player is safe even if they have indisputable proof of things that would be in their favor. Removal of Goodell is the main objective of the Union at this point.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
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CalBear
Footballguy
"But you've got to go through the process."
Peterson refused to meet with the NFL ('the process'). Seems to me Vincent didn't break his word, Peterson did.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
it seems the Commish and company aren't following the CBA to its T while outright lying to the players, media and fans... why should the NFLPA follow the CBA? Besides, if the all or majority of players not show up (especially the ones with star power) what is the NFL going to do? Fire them all and arrest them?
CalBear
Footballguy
The union would have to get the CBA invalidated to go on strike. They don't have any leverage to do that. If they go on strike illegally, the NFL can appeal to the NLRB to fire them all (invalidate all player contracts), and get the union disbanded. A strike will not happen over player discipline issues.
Also- the union is going to find a better poster boy than AP or Ray Rice before they even think of such a thing. I get the principle- but the media isnt going to portray it that way and like it or not, its going to look like the NFL is striking for a child beater and a wife beater. Optics matter, and the NFLPA has lawyers and experts that know that. In a strike, public support is crucial, and they aren't going to have it without something better to rally around.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
They dont have leverage with audio proving that the NFL are liars? They can say the NFL is not living up to its end and strike. Amazing after the NFL disregards the CBA that you think the players and the union have to honor it. Naive much?
If the NFL breaches the CBA, the union has every right to to defends its standing.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
It will look like that to simple minded people who do not understand what is going on, and those people dont matter.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?
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Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Nor does your man crush. The NFL is not going on strike for AP. Nobody but you is suggesting thats even a remote possibility.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Remember when I posted earlier about the clueless people saying a strike would be about AP and not the bigger picture?
Thanks for proving my point. Also making a point doesnt mean a person has a "man crush." You like to bring up man love a lot, weird.
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CalBear
Footballguy
If the union wants to assert that the NFL took an action that violates the CBA, the union has every right to arbitration, which is exactly what happened in this case. The arbitrator has ruled on the case, and the union no longer has any redress. If they could convince the NLRB that the NFL somehow paid off the (mutually-selected by CBA) arbitrator, they'd have a case. "We don't like the outcome" isn't a case.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Let me get this straight- NFLPA saying 'this is bigger then Peterson' (which is true) means the NFL is willing to strike? Thats your evidence. Ok guy. Maybe theyre willing to burn down NFL HQ and take some hostages too. I mean, Smith said this is bigger than Peterson, so anything is on the table right?
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
I said if they had balls the would, its right there in the quotes. That did not mean they will or wont. It is an opinion of mine that angered you so much for some reason. You have this sense that your opinion should be taken as fact and everyone else cant have an opinion at all and just need to listen to you. If stuff on the internet gets you that worked up, I hope your days get better.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
CalBear
Footballguy
The arbitrator is jointly appointed by the NFL and the union as part of the CBA. The union agrees to abide by the decisions of the arbitrator as part of the CBA. "Paid" isn't the same as "paid off"; they'd have to be able to bring a specific complaint of malfeasance by the arbitrator to get any legal traction. They've presented no evidence of any such malfeasance.The arbitrator works for the NFL, so yeah, they paid him off.
ya, lol probably. only way theres a question is if this child abuse thing haunts him which i kinda doubt happens considering how many nfl scumbags are revered.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Tom Pelissero ✔ @TomPelissero Follow
#Vikings GM Rick Spielman more definitive than in past today: "We expect Adrian Peterson to be a part of our football team."
7:47 AM - 18 Feb 2015
#Vikings GM Rick Spielman more definitive than in past today: "We expect Adrian Peterson to be a part of our football team."
7:47 AM - 18 Feb 2015
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
They want him back ... but does he want them back?
From NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000472362/article/adrian-peterson-uneasy-about-returning-to-vikings
From NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000472362/article/adrian-peterson-uneasy-about-returning-to-vikings
Seriously, everyone ... last, best chance to grab McKinnon at his lowest value ever.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Please go to NE, please go to NE, please go to NE
grateful zed
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Week 10 isn't relevant for holdouts any more, and guys on 2nd contract don't really care about the accrued season anyway. He doesn't have any kind of leverage so he may as well show up, prove he's in shape and cooperative, help establish the highest trade value he can for the Vikings, and hope they go along with it.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Yeah, if there's one thing Belichick really struggles with is figuring out how to use a player's skill set. He just can't adjust his set in stone scheme to new personnel.grateful zed said:
Heatman
Footballguy
This is a joke right? The way THEY treated HIM? They did what they had to do. They tried to stand by him but the court of public opinion led to sponsors leaving in droves so they did what they had to do or let the team be crushed financially. He is the one who made the mistake and as of yet has refused to take any responsibility for it.cstu said:
They tried to stand by him? Really. For that day and a half until they realized it was not a popular side to support? That to me is a joke.
I think even Peterson realized they they needed him to go away until his court case was resolved-that his situation was to toxic at the time. I think he could have gotten over being duped into being put on the commissioners exempt list. But by the time his case was resolved the public furor had died down considerably. Still the Vikings still sat idly by, never offering him any public support on a level higher up than the coaching ranks. When he got suspended for the season and later lost his appeal they never tried to stand by him as you say, instead simply issuing statements saying they supported the NFL's decision.
I'm not even convinced the Vikings really want him back. But by publicly supporting him after the fact they get to shift the blame on Peterson when this relationship breaks up. They want their fans to think in the end the relationship ended because Peterson wanted out, not them. And oh, if it helps generate a trade market for him instead of other teams just sitting back thinking they can pluck him up in FA that's not so bad either.
