And @MAC_32 with a kick-###, speedy 20 miler.This weekend delivered on some kick ### performances. Expectations were high and you guys crushed it. Great job @Juxtatarot, @pbm107and @SteelCurtain!!
Nice job O!Driscoll's Strawberry Classic 10k
I don't think I can match @Juxtatarot's race report so I am not going to even attempt it. Very impressive gb.![]()
The race was near USF in the city of Temple Terrace. It was the first of 2 races for the 15k challenge. The course itself is awesome. While an open course, there was very little traffic at the 7:15 start and all drivers in the particular neighborhoods I was in were very courteous. There are a couple of parks and a golf course I skirted in the middle and the end of the course. I actually felt pretty good. The toe (lefty) seemed to be just fine throughout the entire race. The heel lock lacing really makes a huge difference and it was comfortable as can be. I was off my PR pace for 10k by about 4 minutes or so iirc. Last year I ran this race about 8-10 minutes slower. This year I had roughly 8-9 minutes before the 5k started so I know I improved. No big deal for this one. I was taking it easy throughout. There were a couple of rolling hills and the finish line was above an incline as well. Not like the 4% fun I had a few weeks ago, but an incline nonetheless. All in all a pretty smooth race. My mile times actually seemed pretty consistent which bodes well for me in my next race in the Keys 4 weeks from now.
Driscoll's Strawberry Classic 5k
I actually did treat this race like a recovery run. There was twice as many folks in this one as the 10k (shocker) and I was just looking to finish and relax. I ended up running into this lady I have seen in many races and her pace was similar to mine (maybe slightly slower). We talked pretty much the whole race about our races and current and upcoming schedules. It was nice to have this kind of chat whereas I was mostly on my own for the 10k. A slow time for me, but again, no big deal. My focus is on the Keys race and this was the last race in a 4 week cycle of races.
I just added up the total race miles I have run over the last 4 weekends and it comes out to almost 43 miles. Dang.The plan for the next few weeks is to keep running, but adding some some much needed gym time back into the mix. I have actually been spending more time adding in lower body circuit and free weight work. Running will be a mix of shorter and longer runs until mid-April. The plan is also to take it easy and have some recovery time as well. Mrs. O was at the finish for both races yesterday and I yelled to her when I finished the 5k "4 week vacation!!!". Lol. I do need some time off. Nothing planned yet for Fall (although I do have some ideas) and no races during the Summer (aka Florida hell) except one I may have a leftover registration for. Great seeing all of you kicking ### out there. I will continue to improve over time through dedication and persistence, but you all are to thank for motivating me to keep going. Once again, most appreciated.
Rest that thing and don’t rush it. I pitched my worn out pair of Glycerins and ran in a new pair. My old ones were doing more damage to me than I thought.Nice job O!
I'm not going to bother with a race report except to say I wore through my shoe and now my ankle feels like a strained a tendon. Hurts to flex the damn thing. So I rode on the trainer this morning, don't plan on running until it feels better. It really hurts to walk up or down steps or incline.![]()
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Awesome splits! That’s a great RR.Mile 11: 6:23
This was the mile with the hill I was dreading the whole race. I had a plan though. I was going to try @JShare87’s trick and, out loud, tell myself “I’m a bad mutha####er” as I started up the hill. I tried a few times, “I’m a…”, “I’m a…”, but that’s a lot of syllables in a row to say while trying to run up a hill at a fast pace and I couldn’t do it. Oh, well, I still made it up the hill.
Was just going to mention that. Gruced had an awesome run as well. 137 avg HR with a pace in the mid sevens is really impressive imo. Also, Bushdocda with a nice progression run. Great stuff in here, all around.And @MAC_32 with a kick-###, speedy 20 miler.
That reminds me. I wanted to use Sir Roger Bannister’s phrase “my legs were full of running” but completely forgot!Great reports!
@Juxtatarot, very impressive race with some solid racing. And that was perhaps the most eloquent race report we've had ..."wispy" ..."fixated" ..."parry." Sorry about the getting-old part. It happens.
Pickles for all the excellent racing:![]()
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Really is a phrase that needs more run around here. Thought about it a few times today.That reminds me. I wanted to use Sir Roger Bannister’s phrase “my legs were full of running” but completely forgot!
perspective, good sirMy effort today could best be described as “my legs were devoid of running.”
so I went out anyway for 3 1/2 hours
Yes, initials are SG.Is SFBayDuck on Strava? Looks like a couple interesting hikes/runs and I couldn't find them.
Dude. That's fantastic.Turned out to be 17K!
This time last year I could barely run 1K without a walk break.
Ahh, so that's why somebody from Calgary requested to follow me. Good to have another trail guy around these parts!Is SFBayDuck on Strava? Looks like a couple interesting hikes/runs and I couldn't find them.
Man, this is just an awesome run. Guys like me dream of a day like this. Nice work.Su - 20 @ 7:10 w/GAP's under 7:10 from mile 7, on. My last two were sub 7, but that was primarily driven by knowing I was at the end. I kept the big picture in mind and consciously held back. I wasn't watching the clock and while I'm great with math I am not after running 18 miles! I knew I had slaughtered my best previous training efforts though.
Man - just an incredible pace. Nothing but admiration for you guys who have the talent to go fast at short distances AND marathon distance. Awesome race.finished with a 17:34 clock time (chip was 17:30). Last mile 5:33 (AVG HR ??? Monitor went nuts, AVG Power 370).
Finished 71st overall and 6th in my age group. This has been a really good training cycle for me, and I plan on taking it easy this week. I have 5 weeks off training ahead of me to get ready for the Broad Street Run (10 miles) in May.
Yes I puked after I finished but it was pathetic, a couple of dry heaves and then a small amount.@pbm107 Congrats again on the PR! Great job, especially considering the early weaving.
Of course, everyone is going to wonder if you puked. I think you should be required to put that in your race reports.![]()
I'm counting on more out of you at Broad Street.Yes I puked after I finished but it was pathetic, a couple of dry heaves and then a small amount.
Uh, yeah, that's a competitive race!!! Excellent time for you!Haddonfield Adrenaline 5K
finished with a 17:34 clock time (chip was 17:30).
Finished 71st overall and 6th in my age group.
I was thinking the same thing.Uh, yeah, that's a competitive race!!! Excellent time for you!Haddonfield Adrenaline 5K
finished with a 17:34 clock time (chip was 17:30).
Finished 71st overall and 6th in my age group.![]()
Good thing you PR'd because otherwise it would have been relatively disappointing given this puke effortYes I puked after I finished but it was pathetic, a couple of dry heaves and then a small amount.
Thats awesome, great work!I know I'm Single-A ball in a group of MLBers but I had a great run yesterday. Was vacationing in PHX and got out onto a trail in McDowell Mountain park. 10C, light wind, dry, and cloudy. Trail was in great shape. It was so perfect. I only planned on running 10K (the longest I have ever run with no walking). But after about 7 or 8 I felt so good that I thought I would go a little longer. Turned out to be 17K!
This time last year I could barely run 1K without a walk break. My goal is to run a half marathon in November and that's clearly within reach now. I have other (trail-specific) goals I want to achieve as well.
Also got a 16K/750m hike in the day before (Thompson Peak). Real grunt on on the last 2k but a great hike to a great view. I can see in the summer how it would be brutally hot but this time of year it really reminds me how great nice-weather hiking is. Can't wait for the snow to be gone here at home...
If youre not puking you aint tryingYes I puked after I finished but it was pathetic, a couple of dry heaves and then a small amount.
This is great! Those effortless runs are the best!I know I'm Single-A ball in a group of MLBers but I had a great run yesterday. Was vacationing in PHX and got out onto a trail in McDowell Mountain park. 10C, light wind, dry, and cloudy. Trail was in great shape. It was so perfect. I only planned on running 10K (the longest I have ever run with no walking). But after about 7 or 8 I felt so good that I thought I would go a little longer. Turned out to be 17K!
This time last year I could barely run 1K without a walk break. My goal is to run a half marathon in November and that's clearly within reach now. I have other (trail-specific) goals I want to achieve as well.
Also got a 16K/750m hike in the day before (Thompson Peak). Real grunt on on the last 2k but a great hike to a great view. I can see in the summer how it would be brutally hot but this time of year it really reminds me how great nice-weather hiking is. Can't wait for the snow to be gone here at home...
Done. Can't wait for this race as you are running a pace similar to mine (but probably a couple minutes faster).Before I forget, if any of you guys want to track me at Carmel, here's the link: http://tracking.endresultcompany.com/2018/carmel/index.php
We'll see. Gonna run 7:10-7:15 pace for the first 20 miles no matter how easy it (hopefully) feels, and if we're still feeling good at that point, then and only then will we let 'er rip...Done. Can't wait for this race as you are running a pace similar to mine (but probably a couple minutes faster).
Damn. If we were running the same race, we could run right next to each other. I'm zeroing in on that exact time for Boston for the first 16 miles....and then give back a little on the hills....and hopefully finish strong.We'll see. Gonna run 7:10-7:15 pace for the first 20 miles no matter how easy it (hopefully) feels, and if we're still feeling good at that point, then and only then will we let 'er rip...
We'll see. Gonna run 7:10-7:15 pace for the first 20 miles no matter how easy it (hopefully) feels, and if we're still feeling good at that point, then and only then will we let 'er rip...
You guys should do this and hold hands the whole time.Damn. If we were running the same race, we could run right next to each other. I'm zeroing in on that exact time for Boston for the first 16 miles....and then give back a little on the hills....and hopefully finish strong.
Thanks for this. I'm really short on tips and have just been "winging it" over the last year. The good news is that I generally do one hike a week with someone who is slower than me so that counts as my "easy run" and then on days when I'm alone I push a little harder. Also through the winter I've really just been trying to get out and do what I can rather than set PRs (the snow/ice often make just basic activity a challenge in itself). The rare times (like this week) when I'm in a nice climate and can make a push, I do (with a very satisfying result!).One cautionary tale. It is easy to get caught up on going faster and longer with each run and each week. Don't forget, your body is adjusting to running. So make sure you are putting a couple easy runs (length and pace) into your routine each week. And every 3 weeks or so, you want to have a "step back" week, where you take your mileage back a bit. It allows your body's tendons, ligaments, joints, bones all a chance to recover. If you watch even the fastest people in here, you will see they do fast hard runs and then easy runs. And if you look on strava (you can look at mine for example -- initials KR), you'll see some weeks are up high in mileage and others are lower. That is all by design. In addition, you will see, I'll NEVER do 2 hard workouts back to back. For me, its a recipe for injury.
All things HR related are best answered by our resident expert @Ned.Thanks for this. I'm really short on tips and have just been "winging it" over the last year. The good news is that I generally do one hike a week with someone who is slower than me so that counts as my "easy run" and then on days when I'm alone I push a little harder. Also through the winter I've really just been trying to get out and do what I can rather than set PRs (the snow/ice often make just basic activity a challenge in itself). The rare times (like this week) when I'm in a nice climate and can make a push, I do (with a very satisfying result!).
Would love any more tips any of you guys have for a beginner. Looking at your Strava runs, it appears most increase pace not with cadence but with stride length. That's what I'm trying to think about as I progress but if I'm misinterpreting it would be good to know.
Also, how should I be interpreting HR? Generally when I run, I'm in the 150-165 range. Anything above that and I start to need a break. Is that the right target to continue to build endurance?
Oh ho hum. I'll just eat a burger, fly overnight across the country, get two hours sleep, jump in my car and just go run a PR on a windy 28 degree morning in NYC.I decided on a burger
I got probably 2-3 hours of sleep
OVERALL – 1:31:41 (PR by 1:11) Pace per mile 7:00
I just imagine them, running side by side up the hills, encouraging each other: "You're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a ..."ChiefD said:You guys should do this and hold hands the whole time.
I just imagine them, running side by side up the hills, encouraging each other: "You're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a ..."
Great effort, @Steel Curtain!!!![]()
I'd pay serious money to see this.I just imagine them, running side by side up the hills, encouraging each other: "You're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a ..."
Great effort, @Steel Curtain!!!![]()
I just imagine them, running side by side up the hills, encouraging each other: "You're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a bad mutha######" ... "No, you're a ..."
Great effort, @Steel Curtain!!!![]()
So much to discussZasada said:Thanks for this. I'm really short on tips and have just been "winging it" over the last year. The good news is that I generally do one hike a week with someone who is slower than me so that counts as my "easy run" and then on days when I'm alone I push a little harder. Also through the winter I've really just been trying to get out and do what I can rather than set PRs (the snow/ice often make just basic activity a challenge in itself). The rare times (like this week) when I'm in a nice climate and can make a push, I do (with a very satisfying result!).
Would love any more tips any of you guys have for a beginner. Looking at your Strava runs, it appears most increase pace not with cadence but with stride length. That's what I'm trying to think about as I progress but if I'm misinterpreting it would be good to know.
Also, how should I be interpreting HR? Generally when I run, I'm in the 150-165 range. Anything above that and I start to need a break. Is that the right target to continue to build endurance?
Desperately try to avoid the treadmill at all costs.What do folks think of the Garmin indoor running numbers vs treadmill numbers?
i have a Garmin Forerunner 920xt and run with my HRM-Tri. I typically don’t pay attention to the differences between the treadmill and the watch.
tonight the numbers were way off at the gym. Treadmill was at 1.5% incline and 9mph. My watch had me pacing 830-845. The treadmill was about 2.5 miles off after ~1hr. I stopped the treadmill when it hit 10 miles, and my watch said ~7.5 miles. Thats a significant difference.
if I go by feel, my guess is neither are right and it’s somewhere in the middle.
How does everyone else manage this?
This and I think that unless you’ve calibrated your watch & stride length (I have no idea how to do this) the indoor measurement will be off especially at faster paces bc it’s not using gps like outside so treddy is probably more correct.Desperately try to avoid the treadmill at all costs.
Maybe next year at Boston...SteelCurtain said:Damn. If we were running the same race, we could run right next to each other. I'm zeroing in on that exact time for Boston for the first 16 miles....and then give back a little on the hills....and hopefully finish strong.