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Jeff snell man irrelevant meno all in a row all solid

Holloway gamma Pictus next tier

Really like blue and raylove but no TEs for either is scary

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Round 8ish is a good snapshot time.

I find it useful when looking at my team that only it's mother could love, to compare it to the rest.

It gives me perspective.

Soulfly

Romo, Tony DAL QB 6 5.01

Abdullah, Ameer DET RB 9 6.16

Bell, Joique DET RB 9 4.16

Bush, Reggie SFO RB 10 8.16

Yeldon, T.J. JAC RB - 8 2.16

Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR 9 3.01

Johnson, Stevie SDC WR 10 9.01

LaFell, Brandon NEP WR 4 7.01

Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE 4 1.01

I've beat this team to death. Fighting bye issues and swimming upstream against against the field getting better value.

Pictus Cat

Mariota, Marcus TEN QB - 4 8.15

Palmer, Carson ARI QB (Q) 9 7.02

Bernard, Giovani CIN RB 7 5.02

Charles, Jamaal KCC RB 9 1.02

Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR 5 2.15

Hilton, T.Y. IND WR 10 3.02

Tate, Golden DET WR 9 4.15

Allen, Dwayne IND TE 10 9.02

Seferian-Jenkins, Austin TBB TE 6 6.15

I really like this team. Solid everywhere. Someone please explain the SJA love across the board. I believe in Palmer. Geo seems like a value.

Fresh Prince

Dalton, Andy CIN QB 7 7.03

Manning, Eli NYG QB 11 4.14

Johnson, David ARI RB - 9 9.03

Sims, Charles TBB RB 6 8.14

Brown, Antonio PIT WR 11 1.03

Cooks, Brandin NOS WR 11 3.03

Sanders, Emmanuel DEN WR 7 2.14

Daniels, Owen DEN TE 7 6.13

Gates, Antonio SDC TE 10 5.03

You sure the Dalton/Eli draft positions aren't reversed? Loaded at WR and TE. RB looks ugly but if it pans out this is a title contender.

Crippler

Kaepernick, Colin SFO QB 10 6.14

Rivers, Philip SDC QB 10 5.04

Gurley, Todd STL RB 6 2.13

Johnson, Duke CLE RB - 11 8.13

Allen, Keenan SDC WR 10 3.04

Johnson, Calvin DET WR 9 1.04

Matthews, Jordan PHI WR 8 4.13

Eifert, Tyler CIN TE 7 7.04

Miller, Heath PIT TE 11 9.04

Another really balanced team. Will be a tough out at least until week 10. Wow that was a boo-boo.

Gamma1210

Newton, Cam CAR QB 5 4.12

Winston, Jameis TBB QB - 6 8.12

Ellington, Andre ARI RB 9 5.05

Forte, Matt CHI RB 7 1.05

Evans, Mike TBB WR 6 2.12

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 9 7.05

Watkins, Sammy BUF WR 8 3.05

Reed, Jordan WAS TE 8 9.05

Walker, Delanie TEN TE 4 6.12

Another really nice team. Amazed how you guys are assembling these rosters without major flaws. Just a few backups that produce and this will be a contender.

Raylove

Manning, Peyton DEN QB 7 3.06

Stafford, Matthew DET QB 9 4.11

Blount, LeGarrette NEP RB 4 6.11

Hill, Jeremy CIN RB 7 2.11

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 5 1.06

Harvin, Percy BUF WR 8 8.11

Jackson, Vincent TBB WR 6 7.06

Johnson, Andre IND WR 10 5.06

Perriman, Breshad BAL WR - 9 9.06

Not a fan. If you believe in Peyton, don't back him up with a Stafford. Blount seems like a luxury. No TEs. I really like the WRs being a VJax and Harvin guy. AJ is a huge value. Becoming more of a fan by the minute. You may actually pull this off if you can find anything at TE.

Fiddles

Ryan, Matt ATL QB 10 4.10

Forsett, Justin BAL RB 9 3.07

Jennings, Rashad NYG RB 11 8.10

Lacy, Eddie GBP RB 7 1.07

Adams, Davante GBP WR 7 9.07

Decker, Eric NYJ WR 5 7.07

Landry, Jarvis MIA WR 5 6.10

White, Kevin CHI WR - 7 5.07

Olsen, Greg CAR TE 5 2.10

Not bad for relative early QB/TE picks. That said, to much risk for my tastes. All the WRs have talent but will be hit or miss. I could easily see the team challenging for immunity one week and struggling the next.

Stephen Holloway

Brady, Tom NEP QB 4 5.08

Brees, Drew NOS QB 11 4.09

Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB 11 1.08

Ivory, Chris NYJ RB 5 9.08

Garcon, Pierre WAS WR 8 8.09

Jeffery, Alshon CHI WR 7 2.09

Smith, Steve BAL WR 9 7.08

Kelce, Travis KCC TE 9 3.08

Witten, Jason DAL TE 6 6.09

Obviously stud QBs. Yuck on Ivory. WR should come together. Loaded at TE. Not bad but I like some of the other teams better. I think you've set yourself up to pull this off later in the draft.

Jeff Pasquino

Griffin III, Robert WAS QB 8 7.09

Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 11 4.08

Gordon, Melvin SDC RB - 10 2.08

Murray, Latavius OAK RB 6 5.09

Beckham, Odell NYG WR 11 1.09

Floyd, Michael ARI WR 9 6.08

Moncrief, Donte IND WR 10 8.08

Bennett, Martellus CHI TE 7 3.09

Fleener, Coby IND TE 10 9.09

As I stated before I'm bullish on this team. Good at QB, good at RB, Good at WR, very good at TE. I guess that's why your on the staff.

Snellman

Bridgewater, Teddy MIN QB 256.85 5 5.10

Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB 306.30 9 1.10

McFadden, Darren DAL RB 122.60 6 8.07

Morris, Alfred WAS RB 187.90 8 4.07

Boldin, Anquan SFO WR 219.60 10 7.10

Green, A.J. CIN WR (P) 209.30 7 2.07

Wallace, Mike MIN WR 214.80 5 6.07

Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE 83.10 5 3.10

Please explain Rudolph at 3.10. Looks decent if you can get something else at QB.

Mr. Irrelevant

Carr, Derek OAK QB 6 7.11

Wilson, Russell SEA QB 9 4.06

Anderson, C.J. DEN RB 7 2.06

Hyde, Carlos SFO RB 10 3.11

Agholor, Nelson PHI WR - 8 8.06

Bryant, Dez DAL WR 6 1.11

Maclin, Jeremy KCC WR 9 5.11

Cameron, Jordan MIA TE 5 6.06

An anchor stud at each position. Really nice depth. Like the direction this team is heading.

Menobrown

Bradford, Sam PHI QB 8 6.05

Smith, Alex KCC QB 9 7.12

Coleman, Tevin ATL RB - 10 5.12

Miller, Lamar MIA RB 5 3.12

Jones, Julio ATL WR 10 1.12

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR 7 2.05

Hill, Josh NOS TE 11 8.05

Thomas, Julius JAC TE 8 4.05

I think Bradford is being undervalued. Bradford/Smith pair will like outproduce Romo/??? pair. Really nice upside at TE for a bargain price. Not worried about WR with that start. RB is a concern. As a fellow Miller owner I'm not sold. A lot riding on Coleman. It would be ideal if you could go 5 deep at RB.

Jeaton

Bortles, Blake JAC QB 8 8.04

Tannehill, Ryan MIA QB 5 5.13

Gore, Frank IND RB 10 3.13

Spiller, C.J. NOS RB 11 4.04

Vereen, Shane NYG RB 11 7.13

Cobb, Randall GBP WR 7 2.04

Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR 7 1.13

White, Roddy ATL WR 10 6.04

Much like Raylove if you solve the TE problem you're in the mix. You're going to kill it at WR. RB lots alright. QB looks bad on paper but likely will pair together nicely. Have some bye issues limiting you going forward.

Sinrman

Cutler, Jay CHI QB 7 5.14

Flacco, Joe BAL QB 9 6.03

McCoy, LeSean BUF RB 8 1.14

Cooper, Amari OAK WR - 6 3.14

Cruz, Victor NYG WR 11 8.03

Marshall, Brandon NYJ WR 5 4.03

Smith, Torrey SFO WR 10 7.14

Graham, Jimmy SEA TE 9 2.03

Pretty obvious strategy here.

1. Draft a bunch of studs everywhere accept RB2.

2. Load up on 4 backups in RB friendly situations.

3. Hope for an injury to put one of those backups in a key role.

4. Do a victory dance after toasting to your title.

Atomic Punk

Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB 7 2.02

Crowell, Isaiah CLE RB 11 6.02

Murray, DeMarco PHI RB 8 1.15

Sankey, Bishop TEN RB 4 8.02

Bryant, Martavis PIT WR 11 5.15

Edelman, Julian NEP WR 4 3.15

Clay, Charles BUF TE 8 7.15

Ertz, Zach PHI TE 8 4.02

Good team, Mrs. Punk must be drafting. Stud QB, 3 RBs starters with one stud, thin at WR, good at TE.

Go Blue

Luck, Andrew IND QB 10 2.01

Foster, Arian HOU RB 9 1.16

Ingram, Mark NOS RB 11 4.01

Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB 5 3.16

Jackson, DeSean WAS WR 8 5.16

Johnson, Charles MIN WR 5 7.16

Robinson, Allen JAC WR 8 6.01

Wright, Kendall TEN WR 4 8.01

Another TEndless guy. You may be able to ride 3 RBs of this caliber and pick up an extra TE. Too early to know until we see what happens at TE. Could turn out decent.

So, is there a favorite tier? Early out tier?

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I think some owners are getting confused since we now draft on MFL. The pick isn't official until it is posted in the draft thread. At least I'm pretty sure I remember BnB saying that at some point. A PM has always been proper etiquette. With that said, it's pretty easy to set up MFL to receive email notifications of all draft picks. It's also pretty easy to use the pre-draft feature.

I'm posting this here as not to clutter up the draft thread.

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I think some owners are getting confused since we now draft on MFL. The pick isn't official until it is posted in the draft thread. At least I'm pretty sure I remember BnB saying that at some point. A PM has always been proper etiquette. With that said, it's pretty easy to set up MFL to receive email notifications of all draft picks. It's also pretty easy to use the pre-draft feature.

I'm posting this here as not to clutter up the draft thread.

Clock doesn't start until the pick is posted on FBG or someone posts that they PM'd the guy on the clock.

PM is courtesy. Most don't need them so let the others in your league know if you would like to get them.

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I think some owners are getting confused since we now draft on MFL. The pick isn't official until it is posted in the draft thread. At least I'm pretty sure I remember BnB saying that at some point. A PM has always been proper etiquette. With that said, it's pretty easy to set up MFL to receive email notifications of all draft picks. It's also pretty easy to use the pre-draft feature.

I'm posting this here as not to clutter up the draft thread.

Clock doesn't start until the pick is posted on FBG or someone posts that they PM'd the guy on the clock.

PM is courtesy. Most don't need them so let the others in your league know if you would like to get them.

I would like PMs please. Sorry, always understood it was a given that we would PM. I am signed in as commish on the MFL site so I am not set up to receive e-mails. I always understood that the message board was the official site of the draft and that the MFL was just to help keep up so we didn't have to enter picks later.

I will take a closer look at me team after I get a couple more picks in because now is where the difference makers are.

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Also, my technique, check mfl & fbg thread every 1-3 hours with overnight sleep break.

No naps when I'm on the clock.

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I think some owners are getting confused since we now draft on MFL. The pick isn't official until it is posted in the draft thread. At least I'm pretty sure I remember BnB saying that at some point. A PM has always been proper etiquette. With that said, it's pretty easy to set up MFL to receive email notifications of all draft picks. It's also pretty easy to use the pre-draft feature.

I'm posting this here as not to clutter up the draft thread.

Clock doesn't start until the pick is posted on FBG or someone posts that they PM'd the guy on the clock.

PM is courtesy. Most don't need them so let the others in your league know if you would like to get them.

I would like PMs please. Sorry, always understood it was a given that we would PM. I am signed in as commish on the MFL site so I am not set up to receive e-mails. I always understood that the message board was the official site of the draft and that the MFL was just to help keep up so we didn't have to enter picks later.

I will take a closer look at me team after I get a couple more picks in because now is where the difference makers are.

Add your e-mail under you owner need and sign up for e-mail notice. As commish you can do that.

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resisting the urge to jump in here a bunch but thought bass gave sinrman a little too much love.....lots of big names at wr but question marks with a rook on a bad team, a guy who may be on pup, and two guys with big names but have moved to situations where you have to think their fantasy arrow is pointing down....

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resisting the urge to jump in here a bunch but thought bass gave sinrman a little too much love.....lots of big names at wr but question marks with a rook on a bad team, a guy who may be on pup, and two guys with big names but have moved to situations where you have to think their fantasy arrow is pointing down....

Right now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on Cruz.

Regarding Graham, you don't see him as TE2? Last year he was going early in the first. Sinr got him in the early 2nd. Wouldn't that account for the arrow pointing down?

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Soulfly. Missing QB2 and the list has faltered. Spending 2 picks on Det RB's in first 8 rounds hurts along with having too much RB depth almost now. I am not a Lafell and Johnson fan so not big on WR. Gronk is huge though

Pictus. Not a fan of the QB's at all and I think they are very important, RB has a stud and 2nd fiddle in RBBC. WR is not a bad core but no true go to guy. TE could be good if ASJ steps up but right now just middle of the road

Fresh. Not the #1 QB I would rely on but his QB combo is solid. His RB is ugly and his WR/TE combo is good but not much better than mine

Crippler. FOr hating my draft position, I cant disagree with Bass comments. It looks fairly solid but RB is a concern.

Gamma. I think Winston wont help much so on Cam's shoulders. Love Forte, think Ellington way overrated., Love the Wr but not sure on the TE's. Especially Reed who is one concussion from never playing football again. Still some solid pieces

Raylove. I really like his team other than no TE. Harvin to me was overdrafted but he made that up with I think 2 solid WR picks afterwards. Better off taking WR in Stafford spot and a Flacco type in Harvin Spot or got a TE here

Fiddles. ONe big name QB but can the bye week or bad game be the death. RB is solid even if not that big a fan of Jennings. WR is okay and great TE to have.

Holloway. Solid, solid team other than Ivory. I like all his picks but that one. Great job on WR late

Jeff P He does not look nearly as good as Holloway. Not a big Murray fan and Moncrief seems like maybe a wasted pick. Give me Garcon instead

Snellman. Bridgewater as only QB. Rudolph and Wallace also. Not a bad team but this Minny thing will do him in

Mr. I. I am not that big on Wilson as others are. He seems so overdrafted. Overall though he is solid throughout his lineup. Some injury risk guys like Jordan could be bad

Meno. Other than Julio/Jordy start, that was it for this team that I like. the rest of the picks leave me wanting way more

Jeaton. Love the WR trio, The RB core is okay and I dont mind Tanny but not who you backed him up with. Rather QB/QB at that point. No TE is not good eiither for a okay RB core

Sinram. Looks like a solid team as love QB combo, and McCoy should be good. WR core has some questions and looks better on paper than it might perform. I like Holloways team better still

Punk. Great QB but what happens on his bye. Crowell seems to high and not sure on Sankey. The leagues worst WR core. I still think Wheaton is in Pitt to curb Bryant somewhat. Good Te crew.

Go Blue. I like the strategy but think Stewart was a big overdraft. And overall dont like his WR crew compared to most

I guess I think Holloway killed this draft overall. Well done. Raylove is very interesting.

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Sounds like you guys are rating redraft teams.

Aside from having garbage at qb2 for me, I love my team. Took the guys im high on, even at a slight reach at times to wnsure they were mine.

Took RBs I think will dominate in a PPR setting in relation to their draft position, and going to try to hit on guys who may not be consistent, but can put up 7/100/2 at any game, 3-4 times a year.

I think all these teams are even overall, no real WOW team, which is to be expected.

Will all come down to who hit the nail on the head w the mid round picks that turn out to play at a top 3 rnd level, and hit that late homerun.

Let's see who the genius is.

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Jeff P He does not look nearly as good as Holloway. Not a big Murray fan and Moncrief seems like maybe a wasted pick. Give me Garcon instead

Can't really argue with that. I probably should have taken Garcon, esp. with RG3 as my QB2.

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Sounds like you guys are rating redraft teams.

Aside from having garbage at qb2 for me, I love my team. Took the guys im high on, even at a slight reach at times to wnsure they were mine.

Took RBs I think will dominate in a PPR setting in relation to their draft position, and going to try to hit on guys who may not be consistent, but can put up 7/100/2 at any game, 3-4 times a year.

I think all these teams are even overall, no real WOW team, which is to be expected.

Will all come down to who hit the nail on the head w the mid round picks that turn out to play at a top 3 rnd level, and hit that late homerun.

Let's see who the genius is.

Well it is a redraft league and you haven't gone far enough to fill the benches for the bb component.

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Are you always this miserable/surly about fantasy?

Mostly we focus on player evaluation and strategy as it evolves to form the team. We don't focus on the members so much besides their tendencies.

Your comment on just drafting guys who get points was interesting. Do you fill your starters first? QB in the first or second round always because they get the most points? Why? What are some of your drafting philosophies? How does it change in a 16 team? Best ball? Survivor?

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Nice pick Jeff. I had him #1 on my pre-draft to round out my WRs.

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Nice pick Jeff. I had him #1 on my pre-draft to round out my WRs.

Thanks. Makes those WRs look much better.

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Soulfly. Missing QB2 and the list has faltered. Spending 2 picks on Det RB's in first 8 rounds hurts along with having too much RB depth almost now. I am not a Lafell and Johnson fan so not big on WR. Gronk is huge though

Pictus. Not a fan of the QB's at all and I think they are very important, RB has a stud and 2nd fiddle in RBBC. WR is not a bad core but no true go to guy. TE could be good if ASJ steps up but right now just middle of the road

Fresh. Not the #1 QB I would rely on but his QB combo is solid. His RB is ugly and his WR/TE combo is good but not much better than mine

Crippler. FOr hating my draft position, I cant disagree with Bass comments. It looks fairly solid but RB is a concern.

Gamma. I think Winston wont help much so on Cam's shoulders. Love Forte, think Ellington way overrated., Love the Wr but not sure on the TE's. Especially Reed who is one concussion from never playing football again. Still some solid pieces

Raylove. I really like his team other than no TE. Harvin to me was overdrafted but he made that up with I think 2 solid WR picks afterwards. Better off taking WR in Stafford spot and a Flacco type in Harvin Spot or got a TE here

Fiddles. ONe big name QB but can the bye week or bad game be the death. RB is solid even if not that big a fan of Jennings. WR is okay and great TE to have.

Holloway. Solid, solid team other than Ivory. I like all his picks but that one. Great job on WR late

Jeff P He does not look nearly as good as Holloway. Not a big Murray fan and Moncrief seems like maybe a wasted pick. Give me Garcon instead

Snellman. Bridgewater as only QB. Rudolph and Wallace also. Not a bad team but this Minny thing will do him in

Mr. I. I am not that big on Wilson as others are. He seems so overdrafted. Overall though he is solid throughout his lineup. Some injury risk guys like Jordan could be bad

Meno. Other than Julio/Jordy start, that was it for this team that I like. the rest of the picks leave me wanting way more

Jeaton. Love the WR trio, The RB core is okay and I dont mind Tanny but not who you backed him up with. Rather QB/QB at that point. No TE is not good eiither for a okay RB core

Sinram. Looks like a solid team as love QB combo, and McCoy should be good. WR core has some questions and looks better on paper than it might perform. I like Holloways team better still

Punk. Great QB but what happens on his bye. Crowell seems to high and not sure on Sankey. The leagues worst WR core. I still think Wheaton is in Pitt to curb Bryant somewhat. Good Te crew.

Go Blue. I like the strategy but think Stewart was a big overdraft. And overall dont like his WR crew compared to most

I guess I think Holloway killed this draft overall. Well done. Raylove is very interesting.

Crippler, Just curious. Why do you think Stewart was a big overdraft?

He was the last 3 down RB on my board. Finished 2014 strong and Carolina only added Artis-Payne in the draft. I'm not worried about Fozzy Whittaker, Cameron Artis-Payne and Mike Tolbert at all. Stewart has been waiting and waiting for this chance. IF and I know if, he stays healthy, watch out. I have him ranked as a top 20 RB with top 10 upside and he was drafted as RB 19.

Thoughts?

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Well, ppl may hate the move, but I Couldn't care less

Gimme the automatic kicker that can out up 15+ every week. Love me some gostkowski. And now 3 high profile NE players rostered

Get it outta the way, and roll w filling in the rest of the roster.

Oh, and Ive been on the crabtree wagon all preseason, so a no brainer for me

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Crabs love is interesting. What about his situation or ability has changed? Anything else?

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Ive discussed it at length in his thread, and I love cooper being there and tkaing no1 corners on as well

Like carr

Strong belief that crabs was completely unmotivated last season, and being on a prove it deal, it's a good year to own him

Eta, dont love him as much in non PPR, think he thrives as Carrs safety valve this year

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Pick 10.13:
Crippler selected Mason, Tre STL RB

It appears I'm in the the extreme minority on Gurly this year.

I think this pick in the 10th round saved Crippler from an early exit and makes him one of the favorites. In my view, he had no starting RB's.

I see zero reason for St. Louis to rush Gurly back. I fully plan on him being placed on PuP and missing the 1st six weeks of the season. I would have drafted Mason long ago, if my RB situation was different.

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Feeling a little better about my RBs but had planned to take a WR but y'all snatched my short list of three so reverted to RB and was shocked Freeman Was still there with so many picked In a row just ahead.

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I seem to do this to myself every year.

Hopefully this hodge podge of QBs will get me through.

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maybe one of these times when I write a comment with my pick, I'll remember to delete the "Pick made based on Pre-Draft List".

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Player 2014 YTD Pts Bye Drafted

Newton, Cam CAR QB 348.25 5 4.12

Winston, Jameis TBB QB - 6 8.12

Don't love Winston as a backup, so have to ride Cam this year.

Ellington, Andre ARI RB 181.50 9 5.05

Forte, Matt CHI RB 346.60 7 1.05

Robinson, Denard JAC RB 117.60 8 11.05

RBs get thin quick but I like what I have here.

Evans, Mike TBB WR 245.10 6 2.12

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 153.40 9 7.05

Patterson, Cordarrelle MIN WR 95.10 5 10.12

Watkins, Sammy BUF WR (P) 200.00 8 3.05

Should be solid points each week with some good upside and no bye week issues.

Reed, Jordan WAS TE 146.50 8 9.05

Walker, Delanie TEN TE 239.00 4 6.12

Don't love my TEs but I waited on them so hopefully I'll get by here.

Cardinals, Arizona ARI Def 133.00 9 12.12

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4.06 - Wilson, Russell SEA QB 417.35 9

7.11 - Carr, Derek OAK QB 298.20 6

I don't necessarily like Wilson as great value here, but at 4.06 I had no choice but to take the top QB on my board ahead of the inevitable run. Carr should be a top-end QB2.

2.06 - Anderson, C.J. DEN RB 211.30 7

3.11 - Hyde, Carlos SFO RB (P) 76.10 10

10.06 - Mathews, Ryan PHI RB 66.90 8

One guy I expect to be a stud, another who will at least get every chance to be the workhorse, and a third who's got the talent and a favorable offensive scheme. Hoping lack of depth doesn't bite me.

1.11 - Bryant, Dez DAL WR (P) 316.00 6

5.11 - Maclin, Jeremy KCC WR 276.80 9

8.06 - Agholor, Nelson PHI WR - 8

11.11 - Jones, Marvin CIN WR (P) - 7

12.06 - Baldwin, Doug SEA WR 167.30 9

Both top-end strength and depth here. Four guys who could lead their team in catches and four guys who I'd have felt OK taking a round earlier than I landed them.

6.06 - Cameron, Jordan MIA TE 102.40 5

9.11 - Donnell, Larry NYG TE (P) 224.30 11

Cameron's good enough to be a difference-maker if he stays healthy, while Donnell's good enough to keep me more or less in the mix if he doesn't. Won't make or break my squad.

I think I'll wind up fairly pleased how this team ends up all in all.

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Aftering ignoring RB until the 8th, I think I have managed to assemble a decent PPR group. I see all five serving as their team's 3rd-down back, with Sims, Johnson, and Jones potentially getting a healthy amount of carries. There won't be a lot of touchdowns out of this group, but there should be plenty of receptions, giving me at least a solid floor considering it's my weakest position.

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Think Josh Huff was a super sneaky pick this late.

Oregon product, so chip gonna ride him til he succeeds or flops

As solid a lottery ticket as any at this juncture

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Just an FYI, going to be on the road this afternoon/evening and it could be a slight delay for me to pick. I am way down the list right now and hopefully will not hold things up too long.

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Aftering ignoring RB until the 8th, I think I have managed to assemble a decent PPR group. I see all five serving as their team's 3rd-down back, with Sims, Johnson, and Jones potentially getting a healthy amount of carries. There won't be a lot of touchdowns out of this group, but there should be plenty of receptions, giving me at least a solid floor considering it's my weakest position.

I like your crew at RB and you did it about as cheaply as possible. I especially like the Charles Sims at 8.14 and David Johnson at 9.3 picks. I had them both on my short list at that point, but was thinking that I might could get Sims in the 9th and Johnson in the 10th. I think those two will be your most productive. The next two are both solid ppr guys and then the hope and a prayer rookie to top it off. Especially if most of our drafters also take five RBs, you did well. I similarly devalue RB a little in these survivors except I do like to have one solid pick early to hang most of my hopes on and then take a trio that can supply the other score week to week.

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QB: Rivers, Kaepernick, Mattett


RB: Gurley, Johnson, Mason, Ridley


WR: Calvin, Allen, Matthews, Britt, Shorts


TE: Eifert, H. Miller,


PK: Crosby, Zuerlein


D: Jets, SD



Overall I feel happy.



QB: I love my combo but got burned by bye weeks. I took Mallett only because of value as I expect him to start in Houston. For 20th round, I could have gone RB and had a few pre-drafted if Mallett and Wheaton where taken. But at that point all about value. 19 rounds and a RB would have been next



RB: It is okay. Have the Rams game which is good. After that hope that one Ram gets a TD, Duke catches passes or Ridley take the Jets job as they want to run alot. It might suffice



WR: Love my top 3. Britt and Shorts will provide weeks to help the cause



TE: It works. High upside and consistent guy.



PK/D: I got 2 D's. Really big on Jets with what they have done. SL was the only other one I would have liked without going too early on one. I got 2 solid PK's in a league where you dont know a few of the jobs. Who will end up kicking in NO(I know Hopklns got drafted but no guarantee. 50-50 at best), Cleveland(who Knows), Det(they brought in Bridzina who could beat Prater), Wash(Forbath no kicks over 50 last year) or a few others that could be changed. I got 2 guys who are solid with strong legs.

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QB: Rivers, Kaepernick, Mattett

RB: Gurley, Johnson, Mason, Ridley

WR: Calvin, Allen, Matthews, Britt, Shorts

TE: Eifert, H. Miller,

PK: Crosby, Zuerlein

D: Jets, SD

Overall I feel happy.

QB: I love my combo but got burned by bye weeks. I took Mallett only because of value as I expect him to start in Houston. For 20th round, I could have gone RB and had a few pre-drafted if Mallett and Wheaton where taken. But at that point all about value. 19 rounds and a RB would have been next

RB: It is okay. Have the Rams game which is good. After that hope that one Ram gets a TD, Duke catches passes or Ridley take the Jets job as they want to run alot. It might suffice

WR: Love my top 3. Britt and Shorts will provide weeks to help the cause

TE: It works. High upside and consistent guy.

PK/D: I got 2 D's. Really big on Jets with what they have done. SL was the only other one I would have liked without going too early on one. I got 2 solid PK's in a league where you dont know a few of the jobs. Who will end up kicking in NO(I know Hopklns got drafted but no guarantee. 50-50 at best), Cleveland(who Knows), Det(they brought in Bridzina who could beat Prater), Wash(Forbath no kicks over 50 last year) or a few others that could be changed. I got 2 guys who are solid with strong legs.

I miss the days when 30 of the 32 kicker jobs were locked down.

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Bridgewater, Teddy MIN QB

Hoyer, Brian HOU QB

Smith, Geno NYJ QB


Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB

McFadden, Darren DAL RB

Morris, Alfred WAS RB

White, James NEP RB


Boldin, Anquan SFO WR

Colston, Marques NOS WR

Green, A.J. CIN WR (P)

Wallace, Mike MIN WR


Paul, Niles WAS TE

Rodgers, Richard GBP TE

Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE


Bullock, Randy HOU PK

Hopkins, Dustin NOS PK


Bears, Chicago CHI Def

Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def


Just like every draft I do, I got on the wrong side of the QB run. It seems like I always wait too long to pick my QBs in these drafts and end up scraping the bottom of the barrel. I like my RBs a lot as long as they can stay healthy. WRs are thin, but are a decent group. I probably reached on Rudolph, but I think this is going to be a breakout year for him if he can stay healthy. (might be the purple glasses though).


Going after 3 QBs because of the lack of strength and taking 3 TEs really crippled my WRs and RBs. It didn't look too bad at the time I was drafting, but now that I am done I don't like the look of it. Making it halfway through the season might be a reach.

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Bridgewater, Teddy MIN QB
Hoyer, Brian HOU QB
Smith, Geno NYJ QB
Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB
McFadden, Darren DAL RB
Morris, Alfred WAS RB
White, James NEP RB
Boldin, Anquan SFO WR
Colston, Marques NOS WR
Green, A.J. CIN WR (P)
Wallace, Mike MIN WR
Paul, Niles WAS TE
Rodgers, Richard GBP TE
Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE
Bullock, Randy HOU PK
Hopkins, Dustin NOS PK
Bears, Chicago CHI Def
Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def
Just like every draft I do, I got on the wrong side of the QB run. It seems like I always wait too long to pick my QBs in these drafts and end up scraping the bottom of the barrel. I like my RBs a lot as long as they can stay healthy. WRs are thin, but are a decent group. I probably reached on Rudolph, but I think this is going to be a breakout year for him if he can stay healthy. (might be the purple glasses though).
Going after 3 QBs because of the lack of strength and taking 3 TEs really crippled my WRs and RBs. It didn't look too bad at the time I was drafting, but now that I am done I don't like the look of it. Making it halfway through the season might be a reach.

You were about 4-5 rounds too early for Rudolph. Add Hyde/Miller/Gore there and you could have taken Brees/Wilson at the next pick freeing up a pick. Lynch/Gore/McFadden would have been money.

Why did you take 2 pks and 2 ds with only 4 WRs rostered. I know you got good value at WR, but the numbers will catch up with you.

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Jeff Pasquino

Griffin III, Robert WAS QB 8 7.09

Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 11 4.08

Gordon, Melvin SDC RB - 10 2.08

Murray, Latavius OAK RB 6 5.09

Davis, Knile KC RB 9 12.08

Starks, James GB RB 7 17.09

Beckham, Odell NYG WR 11 1.09

Floyd, Michael ARI WR 9 6.08

Moncrief, Donte IND WR 10 8.08

Stills, Kenny MIA WR 5 10.08

Beasley, Cole DAL WR 6 16.08

Bennett, Martellus CHI TE 7 3.09

Fleener, Coby IND TE 10 9.09

Williams, Maxx BAL TE 9 11.09

Sturgis, Caleb MIA PK 5 14.08

Prater, Matt DET PK 9 15.09

Philadelphia Eagles D/ST 8 13.09

New York Giants D/ST 11 18.08

Like this team quite a bit. Torn on TE3 vs. WR6, but I get the value in Maxx. Cole Beasley and Kenny Stills solid WR4/5 options, an no conflicting bye weeks makes 5 WRs OK.

Two solid PK and D, even with waiting until last pick for DEF 2. Like that.

Starks solid RB4 with upside. Hard to do with everyone going RB so early, but found a solid depth RB4.

Thanks Jeff T for the help.

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4.06 - Wilson, Russell SEA QB - 9 (QB4)

7.11 - Carr, Derek OAK QB - 6 (QB23)


2.06 - Anderson, C.J. DEN RB - 7 (RB10)

3.11 - Hyde, Carlos SFO RB - 10 (RB16)

10.06 - Mathews, Ryan PHI RB - 8 (RB43)

14.06 - Williams, DeAngelo PIT RB - 11 (RB57)

18.06 - Michael, Christine SEA RB - 9 (RB66)


1.11 - Bryant, Dez DAL WR - 6 (WR4)

5.11 - Maclin, Jeremy KCC WR - 9 (WR26)

8.06 - Agholor, Nelson PHI WR - 8 (WR44)

11.11 - Jones, Marvin CIN WR - 7 (WR64)

12.06 - Baldwin, Doug SEA WR - 9 (WR67)

16.06 - Bailey, Stedman STL WR - 6 (WR77)


6.06 - Cameron, Jordan MIA TE - 5 (TE10)

9.11 - Donnell, Larry NYG TE - 11 (TE22)


13.11 - Parkey, Cody PHI PK - 8 (PK6)

15.11 - Chiefs, Kansas City KCC DST - 9 (D17)

17.11 - Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB DST - 6 (D26)


QB: Man, do I miss the days when you could fashion a very competitive QBBC at the 6-7 turn in these leagues. Nowadays the choices as early as 4.06 are grab the top of a really large tier, or settle for a Bridgewater-type as your QB1. Between RW3 and Carr I won't be putting up 35+ per week, but I won't be stuck with those crippling single-digit weeks either. B


RB: Personally I'm still a little ambivalent on CJ, but he was clearly the BPA in the early 2nd. Backed him up with Hyde, who's assured of volume of touches if nothing else. Mathews is a guy I really like as a RB3 - he'll get 150+ touches in a Chip Kelly offense without being relied upon as a bellcow. D-Will and Michael are intriguing early- and late-season fliers respectively, though time will tell if I really needed to go 5-deep here. A


WR: Dez is Dez, and is as likely to finish WR1 as anyone taken in the first round. Maclin and Agholor will put up 160+ grabs between them, while Jones should go back to being more of a red-zone threat in '15. I guess what I said in PDSL is true: I really *am* going to own Bailey everywhere this year. Solid value across the board - though, in retrospect, I should have focused more on boom-or-bust deep threats in the late rounds rather than doubling down on possession guys. B


TE: Like my pairing of a high-risk / high-reward athletic freak in Cameron and steady-Eddie guy in Donnell. I see JC playing to Tannehill's strengths extremely well and think a 90-catch / 10-TD season is within reach if he stays healthy. B+


ST: Never have a problem relying on one solid young kicker in these leagues, especially the 18-man versions. Parkey might be a victim of Chip the Gambler with the new 2-point rules, but the efficiency of the Eagles' offense should more than offset that. The Chiefs are just one season removed from a DST1 finish and I look for a big bounceback this season. C-


Overall: Considering I drafted most of this squad from a hospital bed I like to think I acquitted myself fairly well here. This team won't win many, if any, immunities, but might have the highest overall floor of any I've ever drafted. We'll see if that's enough to take home a title, but I foresee myself staying in the mix through November at least.

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QB: Rivers, Kaepernick, Mattett

RB: Gurley, Johnson, Mason, Ridley

WR: Calvin, Allen, Matthews, Britt, Shorts

TE: Eifert, H. Miller,

PK: Crosby, Zuerlein

D: Jets, SD

Overall I feel happy.

QB: I love my combo but got burned by bye weeks. I took Mallett only because of value as I expect him to start in Houston. For 20th round, I could have gone RB and had a few pre-drafted if Mallett and Wheaton where taken. But at that point all about value. 19 rounds and a RB would have been next

RB: It is okay. Have the Rams game which is good. After that hope that one Ram gets a TD, Duke catches passes or Ridley take the Jets job as they want to run alot. It might suffice

WR: Love my top 3. Britt and Shorts will provide weeks to help the cause

TE: It works. High upside and consistent guy.

PK/D: I got 2 D's. Really big on Jets with what they have done. SL was the only other one I would have liked without going too early on one. I got 2 solid PK's in a league where you dont know a few of the jobs. Who will end up kicking in NO(I know Hopklns got drafted but no guarantee. 50-50 at best), Cleveland(who Knows), Det(they brought in Bridzina who could beat Prater), Wash(Forbath no kicks over 50 last year) or a few others that could be changed. I got 2 guys who are solid with strong legs.

Even though you locked up the St. Louis RB tandem, I think RB will be your downfall. The Mallett pick was a luxury and an upside RB pick would have better suited this squad. Alfred Blue or a home run hitter like Antone Smith(I'm a big fan in best ball). I'm assuming you drafted Mallett because of your bye issues week 10, so I get it. Even though I like the team, if Calvin and your QB's have a down week, you may not make it to week 10.

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QB: Rivers, Kaepernick, Mattett

RB: Gurley, Johnson, Mason, Ridley

WR: Calvin, Allen, Matthews, Britt, Shorts

TE: Eifert, H. Miller,

PK: Crosby, Zuerlein

D: Jets, SD

Overall I feel happy.

QB: I love my combo but got burned by bye weeks. I took Mallett only because of value as I expect him to start in Houston. For 20th round, I could have gone RB and had a few pre-drafted if Mallett and Wheaton where taken. But at that point all about value. 19 rounds and a RB would have been next

RB: It is okay. Have the Rams game which is good. After that hope that one Ram gets a TD, Duke catches passes or Ridley take the Jets job as they want to run alot. It might suffice

WR: Love my top 3. Britt and Shorts will provide weeks to help the cause

TE: It works. High upside and consistent guy.

PK/D: I got 2 D's. Really big on Jets with what they have done. SL was the only other one I would have liked without going too early on one. I got 2 solid PK's in a league where you dont know a few of the jobs. Who will end up kicking in NO(I know Hopklns got drafted but no guarantee. 50-50 at best), Cleveland(who Knows), Det(they brought in Bridzina who could beat Prater), Wash(Forbath no kicks over 50 last year) or a few others that could be changed. I got 2 guys who are solid with strong legs.

Even though you locked up the St. Louis RB tandem, I think RB will be your downfall. The Mallett pick was a luxury and an upside RB pick would have better suited this squad. Alfred Blue or a home run hitter like Antone Smith(I'm a big fan in best ball). I'm assuming you drafted Mallett because of your bye issues week 10, so I get it. Even though I like the team, if Calvin and your QB's have a down week, you may not make it to week 10.

I looked at RB and I did not take Mallett because of need but for the value it presented over a RB that may or may not do anything. I would have taken Artis-Payne as my top choice in my pre-drafts. I was really hoping for a week 10 immunity but in the 20th round, I can go for value over a hope and a prayer at that point in time. We will see how it goes. I cant disagree that RB could kill me but I liked the Ridley pick as a very nice wildcard. and I think could be a steal.

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7.02 Palmer, Carson ARI QB 9
8.15 Mariota, Marcus TEN QB 4

Compared Bradford and Mariota. No points for on your back 3 & out.

1.02 Charles, Jamaal KCC RB 9
5.02 Bernard, Giovani CIN RB 7
14.15 Jackson, Steven FA* RB
18.15 Williams, Ryan DAL RB 6

A stud, a regular score, and two flyers.

2.15 Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR 5
3.02 Hilton, T.Y. IND WR 10
4.15 Tate, Golden DET WR 9
10.15 Quick, Brian STL WR 6
11.02 Randle, Rueben NYG WR 11
16.15 Sanu, Mohamed CIN WR 7

Should fill the 3 wr slots weekly

6.15 Seferian-Jenkins, Austin TBB TE 6
9.02 Allen, Dwayne IND TE 10
15.02 Green, Ladarius SDC TE 10

No stud, but a score every week.

12.15 Vinatieri, Adam IND PK 10

13.02 Broncos, Denver DEN Def 7
17.02 Colts, Indianapolis IND Def 10

A good week to week ensemble, with few upside guys.

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Team Holloway

QB1 4.9 Brees NO 11 #6

QB2 5.8 Brady NE 4 #13

RB1 1.8 L. Bell Pit 11 #5

RB2 9.8 Ivory NYJ 5 #39

RB3 10.9 Randle Dal 6 #44

RB4 11.8 D. Freeman Atl 10 #50

WR1 2.9 Jeffery Chi 7 #10

WR2 7.8 S. Smith Bal 9 #38

WR3 8.9 Garcon Wsh 8 #46

WR4 12.9 M. Floyd SD 10 #68

WR5 15.8 T. Lockett Sea 9 #73

WR6 16.9 Hartline Cle 11 #79

TE1 3.8 Kelce KC 9 #4

TE2 6.9 Witten Dal 6 #11

PK1 17.8 Succop Tenn 4

PK2 18.9 Folk NYJ 5

DST1 13.8 NE Patriots 4

DST2 14.9 GB Packers 7

My strategy was to get a top guy at each of the four critical positions in the first four rounds to provide the opportunity to be flexible as long as possible. I was thrilled to get Brees in the 4th round and even more so, Brady the next round. I had not intended to go back to back, but definitely got a lot of bang for those two rounds and eliminated the reaches that happened almost across the board shortly thereafter. Top level here

There has been a lot of talk about L. Bell as the top back, even missing three games. I don't see it, but felt compelled to take him at 9th overall. Running backs are not the strength of my team, but I like the value of the three that I drafted in the 9th, 10th & 11th rounds. I guess my avatar gives away my appreciation of McFadden's college play, but I think Randle has a good shot at similar opportunities behind that awesome offensive line. I am not a huge fan of either Ivory or Freeman, but felt they will be able to outperform their draft positions. lower level till Bell plays then slightly above average

I am surprised that five teams went with five (or less) wide receivers. Definite advantage for the teams with six, due to a combination of the byes and the up and down nature of wide receiver scoring seen in the majority of players. My only bye week issue is two with week 9 byes, but six teams are off that week and eight of our teams will have been eliminated by then. Saw a lot of quality wide receiver picks late and would have considered going with seven here if one of three or four had not been taken before my last pick. My favorite value picks for my squad were S. Smith at WR38, Floyd at WR 68 and my only rookie, T. Lockett at WR73 for the Seahawks. middle of the pack

I am loving the tandem of Kelce and Witten and really liked the value of Witten at TE11 in the 6th round. top tier

Wanted to get two upper tier defenses on the early side and think that was achieved with the Patriots and Packers. Greatly preferred doubling up on DST prior to taking a PK. Considered going solo with Succop, but added Folk with my last pick as several targeted WRs were grabbed.

Team could be vulnerable early missing L. Bell and possibly Brady and also have three week 4 byes, but once the two suspended players return, I like this squad.

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An interesting strategy to shoot for the top by taking risk early. I certainly think owners need to draft with the win in mind. That's Waldman size risk there.

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P. Manning- 3

M. Stafford- 4

AP- 1

J. Hill- 2

L. Blount- 6

D. Cobb- 11

T. Cadet- 14

AJ- 5

V. Jax- 7

P. Harvin- 8

B. Perrimen- 9

D. Bowe- 10

R. Housler- 12

C. Walford- 13

S. Janakowski- 15

K. Forbath- 16

P. Murray- 17

Tennesse D/ST- 18

QBs- Someone stated earlier that if I believed in Peyton, I shouldn't have drafted Stafford so soon after. I agree if this were normal format where I would have to choose a starter between the two each week but in best ball format, I believe having two quality QBs ensures a decent QB score the majority of the weeks. Just hoping they both do not have a down game during the same week.

Grade A

RBs- Reviewing the draft, I am the only one who went back to back RBs in the first two rounds which goes against everything I believe in, in fantasy football. I stated before I usually try to grab a stud WRs early (and often) but the with 16 teams, feel there is a bit more depth at WR to grab a group and play best ball with. Imo, my RBs are tops in the league. AP & Hill are studs. I have N.England's running game whether it be ground (Blount) or air (Cadet should assume Vereen's role). Taking a chance in the 11th and getting a possible starter this late was an easy call. Cobb only has to beat out mediocre B.Sankley for the starting role (or at least goal line love).

Grade A+

WRs- I cringed every round I passed on a WR in the early rounds and didn't select my first till the 5th rd. Still, I'm pretty excited with the group I assembled. AJ may be a steal in the 5th. The rest of my ensemble hopefully plays well enough to give me a decent number of points to go with the studs from the above two categories to keep me moving along. I could have done worse than V.Jax (steady), Harvin (new team, new attitude?), Perrimen (auto #2 in Baltimore, but how long can Steve Smurf be #1?), and D.Bowe (someone has to catch balls on a team that will be behind and throwing a hig percentage of the time).

Grade B-

TEs- In a 16 team draft, unless you get some luck and few players fall, you pretty much have to punt a position. Some teams punted QB, RB, or WR which is riskier than TE. I actually like Housler to fill in for the departed Cameron (again, who is catching balls in Cleveland?) but would have preferred him to be my #2 TE. If Walford starts in Oakland, I will be thrilled, but it's too early to know this. Either way, I believe I have a decent starter and a 1B at worst.

Grade C

Ks- I would have preferred a to take an additional position player rather than a third K, but after T.Lockette went in the 15th, there wasn't a WR or TE that I believed would benefit me over an additional K. Having 3 starting Ks hopefully ensures me a nice weekly score.

Grade B

D/ST- I will never care about taking a defense and do not think only having one will hurt me in the long run. I do not believe defenses consistently score enough points to warrant anything other than an extremely late rd pick and as such I always get stuck with a crappy one. I took Tennesee because it was the earliest bye week of the remaining defenses left at my pick so I'll take my definite zero as early as possible and with as many teams still in it in hopes that one of the remaining teams scores lower than me during the bye week.

Grade- who cares.

Overall- I am very happy with the way my team turned out and barring injury believe I have enough star power and depth to keep me alive towards the end. I consider this team one of the favorites to make it to the top three and ascend the ladder. AND.... I did it while drafting solely with pre-draft as to not hold up any other owners that are as impatient as I am during drafts. :D

Grade B+

Good luck all.

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7.02 Palmer, Carson ARI QB 9

8.15 Mariota, Marcus TEN QB 4

Compared Bradford and Mariota. No points for on your back 3 & out.

1.02 Charles, Jamaal KCC RB 9

5.02 Bernard, Giovani CIN RB 7

14.15 Jackson, Steven FA* RB

18.15 Williams, Ryan DAL RB 6

A stud, a regular score, and two flyers.

2.15 Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR 5

3.02 Hilton, T.Y. IND WR 10

4.15 Tate, Golden DET WR 9

10.15 Quick, Brian STL WR 6

11.02 Randle, Rueben NYG WR 11

16.15 Sanu, Mohamed CIN WR 7

Should fill the 3 wr slots weekly

6.15 Seferian-Jenkins, Austin TBB TE 6

9.02 Allen, Dwayne IND TE 10

15.02 Green, Ladarius SDC TE 10

No stud, but a score every week.

12.15 Vinatieri, Adam IND PK 10

13.02 Broncos, Denver DEN Def 7

17.02 Colts, Indianapolis IND Def 10

A good week to week ensemble, with few upside guys.

It was a fun ride watching the wheels come off and arriving in a smoking wreck week 8.

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