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Trying to get into the Grateful Dead (1 Viewer)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
You are too late. You cant see em live. Bands like them phish etc... Their albums are meh. Its the live show you nee to see.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Luckily though there are probably a 1000 good live shows widely available.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
American Beauty
Workingmans Dead
But it's true. Live is where it's at.
Without a Net
Look at the ####'s Picks series
And if you don't like this, then it's probably not for you.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Was going to recommend this. Also, Spotify has plenty of live Dead, including the Fare Thee Well shows and a 17 disc "Complete Road Trips".
Chaka
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
5/8/77 is always going to be a good choice.
If you have Spotify, ****'s Picks 33 10/9/76 and 10/10/76 was what kicked it in for me
If you have Spotify, ****'s Picks 33 10/9/76 and 10/10/76 was what kicked it in for me
tommyboy
Footballguy
Europe 72
Lots of good stuff here:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/469051-live-grateful-dead/#comment-10351081
Lots of good stuff here:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/469051-live-grateful-dead/#comment-10351081
wilked
Footballguy
One of the Dead's biggest influences. I just think you'll end up appreciating them a little more as a result.
SWC
Bromigo
did you wake up and decide man i do not smell bad enough and i have not been strung out on drugs for a couple years at a time lately i better get in to the dead man they stink and i mean literally do not do it get you some real music like boston or looking glass take that to the bank bromigo
Jayrok
Footballguy
badmojo1006
Footballguy
I did see them live. Opened for The Who at a Day on the Green. They played for 4 hours and I swear it was the same damn song over and over.
simey
Footballguy
randall146
Footballguy
Europe '72
American Beauty
American Beauty
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I think American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are two fine albums to start with. People love the live, jammy version of the Dead. Perhaps an entry point is the slightly more confined studio space. I get a bit lost in the jazz/rock/jam fusion of the live versions.
American Beauty was my first pick of all the albums and all the songs in the recent seventies draft, but it's not a Johnny-Come-Lately love. It's been about twenty or so years of listening to that album.
I wrote it up this way, for all its warts and hopeful loveliness.
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ffldrew
Footballguy
The enjoyment of the Grateful Dead comes from the fact that they were the Encyclopedia Britannica of American based music. Listen to a few live shows - find a couple of the cover songs you like and find out who wrote them and look for the originals - like Reverend Gary Davis, Lightin Hopkins, Howlin Wolf or Bobby Blue Bland. Or look into the history of "I Know You Rider" - then start exploring those sounds and artists that the Dead covered. It then gives you an appreciation of the vast array of music that Jerry and Robert Hunter drew from to design the Dead sound. The "western" sound that Bob Weir and John Perry Barlow is another avenue to explore - Marty Robbins, George Jones and Merle Haggard. They mined a lot of stuff and then Jerry added his special flourishes to make it work.You will learn about a lot of different music that will give you pleasure outside of the Dead itself.
Another avenue - but you'll have to go into the jazz realm sounds of the Dead generally speaking- is to listen to the paired songs on the live shows. Scarlet Begonias--> Fire on the Mountain then China Cat ---> I Know You Rider and the Blues for Allah stuff - Help on the Way--> Slipknot ---> Franklins Tower. And of course the parts of "That's it for the Other One" . Listen to how they transistion from a song into "Playin in the Band" and out of it - same with "Uncle John's Band". In the middle of these pairings as they blend from one into the other is where a lot of the fun happens from show to show.
As for Albums - don't forget to listen the the Jerry solo records - like Garcia or Relections - if you want to hear the studio versions of songs the dead did live.
Listening to some Coltrane may help as well - Jerry drew a lot from it.
Another avenue - but you'll have to go into the jazz realm sounds of the Dead generally speaking- is to listen to the paired songs on the live shows. Scarlet Begonias--> Fire on the Mountain then China Cat ---> I Know You Rider and the Blues for Allah stuff - Help on the Way--> Slipknot ---> Franklins Tower. And of course the parts of "That's it for the Other One" . Listen to how they transistion from a song into "Playin in the Band" and out of it - same with "Uncle John's Band". In the middle of these pairings as they blend from one into the other is where a lot of the fun happens from show to show.
As for Albums - don't forget to listen the the Jerry solo records - like Garcia or Relections - if you want to hear the studio versions of songs the dead did live.
Listening to some Coltrane may help as well - Jerry drew a lot from it.
Jackstraw
Footballguy
My favorite show of all time. Listen to the dancin in the streets. Scarlet Begonia's/Fire on the mountain.
Jackstraw
Footballguy
I started pretty young and naive. Had countless experiences where I heard originals and thought they were covers of the dead. To my shame I even thought Johnny Cash covered the dead's big river.
The roots music is what puts them way over the top in comparison to bands like Phish, Widespread Panic etc. 
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Seems a little late in the game.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
There's only one good thing to say about the gd GD - best fan club in geek history.
As a teen, i was rather famous w friends for my distate for the Dead. All anyone had to do to get me to leave a party was put them on the turntable. One pal got so tired of my castigation of many of his favorites (Dylan, Joplin) that he went for a li'l cool revenge.
He wrote a letter, "Dear Dead, You are my favorite rock and roll band in the whole, while world. I like you more even than the Rolling Stones (my totalEurosnob favorite in 1970). Keep putting out them records. I'll keep buying them." and sent it off to them.
For the next decade+, the Deadhead organization sent me posters, white pressings and other paraphernalia that would be worth thousands of dollars today, in addition to news and updates on every aspect of bringing the band's sound to their fans. Hell, i formed an outdoor-concert production company w a techie friend about five years later and a great deal of the design of our PA came from specs we read in Deadhead packages.
The most remarkable thing is that my address must have changed a dozen times over that period and the #### followed me to wherever i went til i went nearly a yr in nyc without a formal address in the early 80s. I accused the instigator - my best friend to this day - of updating them but he swears he didn't. Don't chang that their music slimes my ears still, but that was quite remarkable.
As a teen, i was rather famous w friends for my distate for the Dead. All anyone had to do to get me to leave a party was put them on the turntable. One pal got so tired of my castigation of many of his favorites (Dylan, Joplin) that he went for a li'l cool revenge.
He wrote a letter, "Dear Dead, You are my favorite rock and roll band in the whole, while world. I like you more even than the Rolling Stones (my totalEurosnob favorite in 1970). Keep putting out them records. I'll keep buying them." and sent it off to them.
For the next decade+, the Deadhead organization sent me posters, white pressings and other paraphernalia that would be worth thousands of dollars today, in addition to news and updates on every aspect of bringing the band's sound to their fans. Hell, i formed an outdoor-concert production company w a techie friend about five years later and a great deal of the design of our PA came from specs we read in Deadhead packages.
The most remarkable thing is that my address must have changed a dozen times over that period and the #### followed me to wherever i went til i went nearly a yr in nyc without a formal address in the early 80s. I accused the instigator - my best friend to this day - of updating them but he swears he didn't. Don't chang that their music slimes my ears still, but that was quite remarkable.
Skoo
Footballguy
America's Greatest Rock Band
Agree on 5/8/77, although I'm not sure if starting with one of the best shows ever is a good idea or not.
Fun fact, it snowed that night in Ithaca, NY. On May 8th.
Check out the D-I-C-K's Picks series, tons of great stuff in there.
One last thing: It may take a while to get into, but don't get discouraged. Once it clicks, there's no turning back. And you will spend the next few years learning the hundreds of great songs they wrote.
Pretty jealous of the OP actually. I wish I could go back and have it all be new again!
Agree on 5/8/77, although I'm not sure if starting with one of the best shows ever is a good idea or not.
Fun fact, it snowed that night in Ithaca, NY. On May 8th.
Check out the D-I-C-K's Picks series, tons of great stuff in there.
One last thing: It may take a while to get into, but don't get discouraged. Once it clicks, there's no turning back. And you will spend the next few years learning the hundreds of great songs they wrote.
Pretty jealous of the OP actually. I wish I could go back and have it all be new again!
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