***Chicago Bears 2019 Thread*** Won 4 of 5. No idea

[kittenmittens 1,031]

7 minutes ago, RBM said:

Ok we’re back!  Lol

This should pump up the defense too. 

Trubisky playing much better after that Rocky start. 

[The Tick 511]

Why the #### can't they start a game like that???

[-X- 370]

Nailbiter against the Lions at home with a backup QB?  

[mbuehner 552]

1 hour ago, kittenmittens said:

This should pump up the defense too. 

Trubisky playing much better after that Rocky start. 

Trubisky went up a notch. Now hes at notch one. 

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Bears now 235-0 when leading by 14 or more in the 4th Q at home.  That’s an amazing and unbelievable stat.  Nearly gave the Lions a chance to make it 234-1.

Trub finally made some decent end zone throws.  Our run blocking is still abysmal and overall the O cannot put long drives together.

For a “get well” game, it didn’t feel that good with the D letting them march down the field at the end, as usual.

[RBM 4,667]

O line move appeared to hurt. No running lanes and Mitch sacked 4x. 

[-X- 370]

So hot & cold.  Mostly cold:

”The Bears still went 3-&-out on 7 of 12 possessions today. Aside from the three touchdown drives, they ended a possession past their own 40-yard line just twice.”

Relieved we won, but man...  This offense is painful to watch.

Anyway, Kwiatkowski stepped in nicely for Trevathan (shoulder injury?) and that INT was huge.

Back to chasing .500.

[Maurile Tremblay 18,875]

Trey Burton has 25 targets on the season, Adam Shaheen has 13, and Ben Braunecker has just 4. Braunecker leads all Chicago tight ends in fantasy points.

[Ditkaless Wonders 15,105]

On 11/4/2019 at 11:03 AM, Snotbubbles said:

Going back to 1980 here are the QBs were won and weren't drafted by the winning team: Foles, Manning (Denver), Dilfer, Brees, Warner, Favre, Young, Doug Williams and Plunkett.  Technically, Eli Manning was drafted by the Chargers.

Here is who was drafted by the winning team: Brady, Wilson, Flacco, Rodgers, Big Ben, Manning (Indy), Elway, Aikman, Rypien, Montana, Simms and Hostetler.

Caveat, might have missed a guy or two.  

I think you will find that Elway was not drafted by Denver.

 

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3 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

Trey Burton has 25 targets on the season, Adam Shaheen has 13, and Ben Braunecker has just 4. Braunecker leads all Chicago tight ends in fantasy points.

Burton should change his name to Buston.

[twistd 138]

3 hours ago, -X- said:

Burton should change his name to Buston.

This was a poor free agent signing. But let us go back to when the Bears had Mike Martz and they traded Greg Olsen because Martz didn’t use the TE. I said at the time that Martz would be fired the following year, and the Bears would be chasing TE for a long time. And that is exactly what happened. From 2012 to 2016 Olsen never had less than 69 receptions, and 816 yards. His best year was 2015 when he had 77 receptions, 1104 yards, and 7 TDs. The Bears have muddled through with Martellus Bennett, and now Burton. Spending draft capital to acquire them, paying a lot of free agent money to get mediocre results.
 

The Bears received a third round pick in 2012 for Olsen. The Bears selected Brandon Hardin, a defensive back, with that pick. He never played a down for the Bears. Five picks before this selection, Russell Wilson was taken. TY Hilton, Akiem Hicks, and Sanu were all taken later in that round. Stupid decisions like these can have long term consequences. Something to consider when we watch Trubisky play Sunday. Drafting Trubisky is a decision that may set the team back five years, maybe more.

Edited November 11 by twistd
Want to add some info

[Wrigley 3,228]

Stafford plays they lose 

[Max Power 1,805]

When the heck did we release Mike Davis?

[Max Power 1,805]

The Davis move was made in hopes of picking up a late round comp pick. 

I really hate what Pace is doing. Not that Davis and Patterson were major pickups, I thought we could use them better than we are. Bears signed Davis day 1 of FA and couldn't even figure out what to do with him.

We could have spent that 8 mil in much better ways. 

[Snotbubbles 420]

18 hours ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

I think you will find that Elway was not drafted by Denver.

 

Good catch.  He falls into the same technicalities that Eli Manning does.  I think I would lean towards putting those guys in the drafted category since they never suited up for their drafting team, but I'm indifferent however one would want to categorize them.  Guess it depends on which side of the argument you are on.

[rockaction 14,572]

7 minutes ago, Snotbubbles said:

Good catch.  He falls into the same technicalities that Eli Manning does.  I think I would lean towards putting those guys in the drafted category since they never suited up for their drafting team, but I'm indifferent however one would want to categorize them.  Guess it depends on which side of the argument you are on.

I'm chiming in from outside, but I'd say that if you didn't make it out of draft day or go to preseason with that team, you were originally with the Giants, Denver, etc. That seems more in keeping with the spirit of our hypothetical law rather than the letter of it. 

[flapgreen 5,413]

This team is a joke

[rockaction 14,572]

1 minute ago, flapgreen said:

This team is a joke

Needs more Chase Daniel to make A-Rob a top ten guy in fantasy, me thinks. 

[flapgreen 5,413]

Just now, rockaction said:

Needs more Chase Daniel to make A-Rob a top ten guy in fantasy, me thinks. 

They're sticking with Mitch through the end of the season for better or for worse. 

[rockaction 14,572]

Just now, flapgreen said:

They're sticking with Mitch through the end of the season for better or for worse. 

Oof. I hope they realize that they're in the window. Like, right now. This was the window! 

[yoman 50]

9 first half yards against the Eagles on 6 possessions. 

25 yards on their first 4 possessions with 1 first down against the Lions.

In order to get their only TD drive they had to take a gamble and go for it on 4 and 1 from their own 29 with about 3 1/2 minutes to go before halftime. I would hate to think what would have happened if they didn't make it because it would have been 5 possessions with only 34 yards.  That turned into a TD drive and people thought it was bold for Nagy to go for it but I think it was more out of desperation because he would have been run out of town with his stats. If they didn't make it and they gave up a field goal or a TD I don't know how he could rally anybody to want to play for him and the score would have either been 9-0 or 13-0 Lions.  

Last year they seemed to do well at the beginning of games with the first 15 plays and sometimes went downhill from that. This year they can't get going out of the gate and the defense is exhausted by the end of the game.  Without the defense playing as well as they did last year the offense has been exposed. 

[sublimeone 860]

35 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Oof. I hope they realize that they're in the window. Like, right now. This was the window! 

There is no window with this offense. Trubisky has been bad but the entire scheme needs to be overhauled. 

[mbuehner 552]

On 11/12/2019 at 7:40 PM, rockaction said:

Oof. I hope they realize that they're in the window. Like, right now. This was the window! 

Defense looks very average of late, and from jump not late in the game. 

[flapgreen 5,413]

Appears Mack has decided making an impact isn't worth the effort over the past month. Good job 

[twistd 138]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bears/ct-chicago-bears-mitch-trubisky-2017-nfl-draft-20191112-mkiclk4l4jb3bndxf7azbtdw6m-story.html

[flapgreen 5,413]

Burton to IR. What a wasted signing. Guy showed he had no guts missing the playoff game. Continued with it this year.  Shaheen isn't even active. Huge hole at TE. 

 

Braunecker in his 4th year and now apparently the guy. 

Edited November 16 by flapgreen

[barackdhouse 905]

Rams D seems like a really rough matchup. I'm afraid this one might get ugly. But maybe the momentum coming off a win can continue. 

[IheartGuinness 374]

Still think the bears are going to have a successful season with the potential to win it all. Plenty of experts thought the same at the beginning of the year, and I still feel like they have time to pull it together. The Rams have proven to be one of the more overrated teams in the league, and the bears defense should have a field day with them this week. After that, they have a couple of easy games and I fully expect them to be sitting at 7-5, primed for a playoff and super bowl run. 

[flapgreen 5,413]

I'm so apathetic toward this team. About to go another half without scoring. Pitiful franchise 

[pbandy1 537]

Is it me or did Anthony Miller throw up some gang signs? Admittedly, I'm not an expert on this particular topic, lol.

[flapgreen 5,413]

1 minute ago, pbandy1 said:

Is it me or did Anthony Miller throw up some gang signs? Admittedly, I'm not an expert on this particular topic, lol.

Didn't notice. Been worthless anyway. 

[flapgreen 5,413]

Entire roster and coaching staff needs to be evaluated after this season. What a disaster this team has become. 

[pbandy1 537]

4 minutes ago, flapgreen said:

Didn't notice. Been worthless anyway. 

https://twitter.com/_MarcusD3_/status/1196252527760748544

[flapgreen 5,413]

1 minute ago, pbandy1 said:

https://twitter.com/_MarcusD3_/status/1196252527760748544

Lol. Goodness. Wouldn't surprise me. He's been another wasted pick. 

[twistd 138]

Why, is Chase Daniel on the field?

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Chase Daniel sighting!

Eddy has fallen off a cliff.  D gives up another TD late, as usual.

Game’s over and so is the season.

[flapgreen 5,413]

Nagy benches Trubisky when he was nowhere near the main problem. Coach is hopeless. So is the team. 

[Judge Smails 2,645]

Nagy should be fired. Before breakfast 

[Statorama 2,399]

@flapgreen title changes in this thread always make me 

[Chadstroma 1,637]

14 minutes ago, -X- said:

Chase Daniel sighting!

Eddy has fallen off a cliff.  D gives up another TD late, as usual.

Game’s over and so is the season.

But look at the bright side... 

My Raiders are looking at a 9th to 12th overall pick right now in the draft!

[saintfool 2,639]

7 minutes ago, Judge Smails said:

Nagy should be fired. Before breakfast 

He's in over his head for sure. Trestman 2.0

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Chasing .455.

Chasing Chase.

Chasing the draft.

Chasing mini-camp.

Chasing OTAs.

Chasing training camp.

Chasing next season.

Definitely not chasing great.

[mbuehner 552]

Theyre gonna say he had a bad hip, but thats bull. Nagy panicked, end of story. 

Its interesting that this exposes the obvious lie of their confidence in Mitch. He wasnt very good tonight but he played ok and was far from the biggest problem. If you believed in him last week there's no way you believed in him less after tonight.

Chase Daniel is demonstrably not the answer. Theres no upside to this move. You gotta play Mitch to find out if theres anything salvageable. You play all these stupid mind games to protect his delicate psyche for 3 years, then you pull this #### out of the blue?! This is total flailing desperation. 

Edited November 18 by mbuehner

[The Tick 511]

On 11/13/2019 at 10:37 PM, mbuehner said:

Defense looks very average of late, and from jump not late in the game. 

Partially I agree, but so far they have let a team score more then 17 points twice this year, and those were only 21 and 25.  They do allow some big drives, but still manage to keep the score down.  The defense has kept every game within reach of a mediocre offense.

[The Tick 511]

2 hours ago, flapgreen said:

Entire roster and coaching staff needs to be evaluated after this season. What a disaster this team has become. 

Don't forget the front office.  This is the team Pace built, and they stink.

[junk17 1]

So many issues - time to cut the awful kicker... has missed way too many kicks this year. Scrap him and sign another.

[Judge Smails 2,645]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more desperate, cowardly move by a head coach. Trubisky had 3 TD’s last week. Should have been up early In this one if his kicker was any good. Made only a couple bad plays. The pick was an errant throw. The option was executed poorly and Nagy was bent about it. But it was a terrible play call. Otherwise he game managed and what was expected with conservative play calling. Deflection. Save my job desperation. Zero respect for this guy 

[flapgreen 5,413]

As soon as I saw the Rams were down multiple OL and WRs, I knew exactly what would happen. They would run all over the Bears and the Bears wouldn't put any pressure on the qb. Vintage Bears. 

[Max Power 1,805]

7 hours ago, The Tick said:

Partially I agree, but so far they have let a team score more then 17 points twice this year, and those were only 21 and 25.  They do allow some big drives, but still manage to keep the score down.  The defense has kept every game within reach of a mediocre offense.

You're very kind to call this offense mediocre.

[Max Power 1,805]

Pace, Nagy and Mitch all have to go. I have no faith in any of them. 

I think Mitch might actually be the most salvageable of the bunch. Nagy refuses to play to Mitch's strength. Fix the run game and let Mitch be a play action QB and I think he'd be decent in the league. 

I'm ok blowing the whole thing up. This "window" won't be championship caliber.